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Jolene
December 21st 03, 03:51 PM
Hello
First off I was having problems with losing my connection
to the internet, and displaying "page cannot be located";
once I shutdown and started back up I could access
everything till I went to idle modethen I would get "page
cannot be located" again. So I took my computor to a tech
and he cleaned of alot of interent garbage I had on
there, and had him load a spamkiller that I could not get
loaded. Everything works fine now, but in order to load
my spamkiller he had to disable the Mcafee firewall as it
is not compatable. Do I need to get another firewall or
is the windows XP one sufficient. I am also using Macfee
virus scan, and spamkiller.
Hope someone can advise me.
Bruce Chambers
December 21st 03, 03:51 PM
Greetings --
You need a firewall a lot more than you need a "spam killer."
That alleged "tech" did not do you any favors.
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
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having both at once. -- RAH
"Jolene" > wrote in message
...
> Hello
> First off I was having problems with losing my connection
> to the internet, and displaying "page cannot be located";
> once I shutdown and started back up I could access
> everything till I went to idle modethen I would get "page
> cannot be located" again. So I took my computor to a tech
> and he cleaned of alot of interent garbage I had on
> there, and had him load a spamkiller that I could not get
> loaded. Everything works fine now, but in order to load
> my spamkiller he had to disable the Mcafee firewall as it
> is not compatable. Do I need to get another firewall or
> is the windows XP one sufficient. I am also using Macfee
> virus scan, and spamkiller.
> Hope someone can advise me.
jolene
December 21st 03, 03:51 PM
Thanks for your input, are you going to answer the rest
of the topic or shall I just repost it?
>-----Original Message-----
>Greetings --
>
> You need a firewall a lot more than you need a "spam
killer."
>That alleged "tech" did not do you any favors.
>
>Bruce Chambers
>
>--
>Help us help you:
>http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't
ever count on
>having both at once. -- RAH
>
>
>"Jolene" > wrote in
message
...
>> Hello
>> First off I was having problems with losing my
connection
>> to the internet, and displaying "page cannot be
located";
>> once I shutdown and started back up I could access
>> everything till I went to idle modethen I would
get "page
>> cannot be located" again. So I took my computor to a
tech
>> and he cleaned of alot of interent garbage I had on
>> there, and had him load a spamkiller that I could not
get
>> loaded. Everything works fine now, but in order to
load
>> my spamkiller he had to disable the Mcafee firewall as
it
>> is not compatable. Do I need to get another firewall or
>> is the windows XP one sufficient. I am also using
Macfee
>> virus scan, and spamkiller.
>> Hope someone can advise me.
>
>
>.
>
WestCan
December 21st 03, 03:51 PM
Well, if that "alleged tech" did indeed remove alot of garbage, and you have
McAfee everything, that is more than what you need ...just reload McAfee
again, and let it configure new.
"jolene" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks for your input, are you going to answer the rest
> of the topic or shall I just repost it?
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Greetings --
> >
> > You need a firewall a lot more than you need a "spam
> killer."
> >That alleged "tech" did not do you any favors.
> >
> >Bruce Chambers
> >
> >--
> >Help us help you:
> >http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> >
> >You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't
> ever count on
> >having both at once. -- RAH
> >
> >
> >"Jolene" > wrote in
> message
> ...
> >> Hello
> >> First off I was having problems with losing my
> connection
> >> to the internet, and displaying "page cannot be
> located";
> >> once I shutdown and started back up I could access
> >> everything till I went to idle modethen I would
> get "page
> >> cannot be located" again. So I took my computor to a
> tech
> >> and he cleaned of alot of interent garbage I had on
> >> there, and had him load a spamkiller that I could not
> get
> >> loaded. Everything works fine now, but in order to
> load
> >> my spamkiller he had to disable the Mcafee firewall as
> it
> >> is not compatable. Do I need to get another firewall or
> >> is the windows XP one sufficient. I am also using
> Macfee
> >> virus scan, and spamkiller.
> >> Hope someone can advise me.
> >
> >
> >.
> >
December 21st 03, 03:51 PM
Thanks for your advice, do you mean I should (install)
the McAfee firewall again? If thats what you mean I will
purchase a newer version as mine is older now, and that
may be where my problems are.(so the alleged tech told
me) I contacted McAfee and they verifeid it is an older
model and are willing to provide me the newest version
on trial. Thanks for your advice and input. It is
appreciated.
>-----Original Message-----
>Well, if that "alleged tech" did indeed remove alot of
garbage, and you have
>McAfee everything, that is more than what you
need ...just reload McAfee
>again, and let it configure new.
>
>"jolene" > wrote in
message
...
>> Thanks for your input, are you going to answer the
rest
>> of the topic or shall I just repost it?
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Greetings --
>> >
>> > You need a firewall a lot more than you need
a "spam
>> killer."
>> >That alleged "tech" did not do you any favors.
>> >
>> >Bruce Chambers
>> >
>> >--
>> >Help us help you:
>> >http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> >http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>> >
>> >You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't
>> ever count on
>> >having both at once. -- RAH
>> >
>> >
>> >"Jolene" > wrote
in
>> message
>> ...
>> >> Hello
>> >> First off I was having problems with losing my
>> connection
>> >> to the internet, and displaying "page cannot be
>> located";
>> >> once I shutdown and started back up I could access
>> >> everything till I went to idle modethen I would
>> get "page
>> >> cannot be located" again. So I took my computor to a
>> tech
>> >> and he cleaned of alot of interent garbage I had on
>> >> there, and had him load a spamkiller that I could
not
>> get
>> >> loaded. Everything works fine now, but in order to
>> load
>> >> my spamkiller he had to disable the Mcafee firewall
as
>> it
>> >> is not compatable. Do I need to get another
firewall or
>> >> is the windows XP one sufficient. I am also using
>> Macfee
>> >> virus scan, and spamkiller.
>> >> Hope someone can advise me.
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
December 21st 03, 03:52 PM
Jolene;
Spam killers are fine but they are not a replacement for a firewall,
antivirus or keeping Windows up to date with updates.
See this link:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/Security.htm
Last thing to replace is the "tech".
Techs like that will get your computer in trouble and another tech
will be guaranteed another job to fix what he goofed.
Hopefully he was free, and at that overpriced.
--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
http://dts-l.org/index.html
"jolene" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks for your input, are you going to answer the rest
> of the topic or shall I just repost it?
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Greetings --
> >
> > You need a firewall a lot more than you need a "spam
> killer."
> >That alleged "tech" did not do you any favors.
> >
> >Bruce Chambers
> >
> >--
> >Help us help you:
> >http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> >
> >You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't
> ever count on
> >having both at once. -- RAH
> >
> >
> >"Jolene" > wrote in
> message
> ...
> >> Hello
> >> First off I was having problems with losing my
> connection
> >> to the internet, and displaying "page cannot be
> located";
> >> once I shutdown and started back up I could access
> >> everything till I went to idle modethen I would
> get "page
> >> cannot be located" again. So I took my computor to a
> tech
> >> and he cleaned of alot of interent garbage I had on
> >> there, and had him load a spamkiller that I could not
> get
> >> loaded. Everything works fine now, but in order to
> load
> >> my spamkiller he had to disable the Mcafee firewall as
> it
> >> is not compatable. Do I need to get another firewall or
> >> is the windows XP one sufficient. I am also using
> Macfee
> >> virus scan, and spamkiller.
> >> Hope someone can advise me.
jolene
December 21st 03, 03:52 PM
Thank you very much. Your input is valuable, and I've
now learnt. I am replacing my firewall with an updated
version, though the lesson is costly, the "tech" did
well. Thanks again. Will be using the link you provided.
Hope you all have a wonderful holiday season!
>-----Original Message-----
>Jolene;
>Spam killers are fine but they are not a replacement for
a firewall,
>antivirus or keeping Windows up to date with updates.
>
>See this link:
>http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/Security.htm
>
>Last thing to replace is the "tech".
>Techs like that will get your computer in trouble and
another tech
>will be guaranteed another job to fix what he goofed.
>Hopefully he was free, and at that overpriced.
>
>--
>Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/s
etup.asp
>http://dts-l.org/index.html
>
>
>"jolene" > wrote in
message
...
>> Thanks for your input, are you going to answer the
rest
>> of the topic or shall I just repost it?
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Greetings --
>> >
>> > You need a firewall a lot more than you need
a "spam
>> killer."
>> >That alleged "tech" did not do you any favors.
>> >
>> >Bruce Chambers
>> >
>> >--
>> >Help us help you:
>> >http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> >http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>> >
>> >You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't
>> ever count on
>> >having both at once. -- RAH
>> >
>> >
>> >"Jolene" > wrote
in
>> message
>> ...
>> >> Hello
>> >> First off I was having problems with losing my
>> connection
>> >> to the internet, and displaying "page cannot be
>> located";
>> >> once I shutdown and started back up I could access
>> >> everything till I went to idle modethen I would
>> get "page
>> >> cannot be located" again. So I took my computor to a
>> tech
>> >> and he cleaned of alot of interent garbage I had on
>> >> there, and had him load a spamkiller that I could
not
>> get
>> >> loaded. Everything works fine now, but in order to
>> load
>> >> my spamkiller he had to disable the Mcafee firewall
as
>> it
>> >> is not compatable. Do I need to get another
firewall or
>> >> is the windows XP one sufficient. I am also using
>> Macfee
>> >> virus scan, and spamkiller.
>> >> Hope someone can advise me.
>
>
>.
>
Del
December 21st 03, 03:52 PM
No one actually replied about the xP firewall. For what its worth I have had
mine for 2 years and have had no problems. I do a disc cleanup every month
to get rid of internet garbage and unnecessary files
Jolene
December 21st 03, 03:53 PM
Thanks, I also do a disc cleanup and defrag every week,
Mcafee advised me that my firewall was an outdated one,
so am in the progress of upgrading. Thank again. >-----
Original Message-----
>No one actually replied about the xP firewall. For what
its worth I have had
>mine for 2 years and have had no problems. I do a disc
cleanup every month
>to get rid of internet garbage and unnecessary files
>
>
>.
>
Bruce Chambers
December 21st 03, 03:55 PM
Greetings --
Didn't realize it was a two-part question. ;-}
Since you've already paid for the McAfee firewall, I think you'd
be wasteful not to use it.
WinXP's built-in firewall is fine at stopping incoming attacks, and
hiding your ports from probes. It doesn't give you any alarms to tell
you that it is working, though. What WinXP also does not do, is
protect you from any Trojans or spyware that you might download and
install inadvertently. It doesn't monitor out-going traffic at all,
much less block (or at least ask you about) the bad or the
questionable out-going packets.
ZoneAlarm, Kerio, or Sygate are all much better, and are much more
easily configured, and there are a free versions of each readily
available. Even Symantec's Norton Personal Firewall is superior,
although it does take a heavier toll of performance then do ZoneAlarm,
Kerio, or Sygate.
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH
"jolene" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks for your input, are you going to answer the rest
> of the topic or shall I just repost it?
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Greetings --
> >
> > You need a firewall a lot more than you need a "spam
> killer."
> >That alleged "tech" did not do you any favors.
> >
> >Bruce Chambers
> >
> >--
> >Help us help you:
> >http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> >
> >You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't
> ever count on
> >having both at once. -- RAH
> >
> >
> >"Jolene" > wrote in
> message
> ...
> >> Hello
> >> First off I was having problems with losing my
> connection
> >> to the internet, and displaying "page cannot be
> located";
> >> once I shutdown and started back up I could access
> >> everything till I went to idle modethen I would
> get "page
> >> cannot be located" again. So I took my computor to a
> tech
> >> and he cleaned of alot of interent garbage I had on
> >> there, and had him load a spamkiller that I could not
> get
> >> loaded. Everything works fine now, but in order to
> load
> >> my spamkiller he had to disable the Mcafee firewall as
> it
> >> is not compatable. Do I need to get another firewall or
> >> is the windows XP one sufficient. I am also using
> Macfee
> >> virus scan, and spamkiller.
> >> Hope someone can advise me.
> >
> >
> >.
> >
Lil' Dave
December 21st 03, 03:56 PM
Sounds like the "tech" just deleted all the internet cached items and
cookies. Then installed a crappy firewall and spam software. Hope it
wasn't more than five dollar charge...
Get rid of all instances of your current firewall and antivirus software,
have fun. Kill the spamkiller.
Install NAV2004, leave all at default.
Install ZoneAlarm Pro, it will clean your your cache intermittently for you
as part of options once installed. Cookie blocking is customizable. Leave
it so as to scrutinize anything accessing the internet.
Install Mailwasher Pro.
If you're using cable, get a hardware router.
Dave
"Jolene" > wrote in message
...
> Hello
> First off I was having problems with losing my connection
> to the internet, and displaying "page cannot be located";
> once I shutdown and started back up I could access
> everything till I went to idle modethen I would get "page
> cannot be located" again. So I took my computor to a tech
> and he cleaned of alot of interent garbage I had on
> there, and had him load a spamkiller that I could not get
> loaded. Everything works fine now, but in order to load
> my spamkiller he had to disable the Mcafee firewall as it
> is not compatable. Do I need to get another firewall or
> is the windows XP one sufficient. I am also using Macfee
> virus scan, and spamkiller.
> Hope someone can advise me.
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