MSN Messenger vs. Windows Messenger

[John]

Thats right. Windows Messenger is by default in Windows
XP. MSN Messenger is for the rest of the windows
platforms basically.

Dont hang me up on this but I am made to believe that
Technically MSN Messenger is a "subset" program of
Windows Messenger so to speak. Windows messenger has a
built in video COnversation whereas MSN Messenger uses a
NetMeeting interface.

There are however the more obvious visual user interface
differences...i.e. the "tabs" in Windows Messenger are
gone but are still available in MSN Messenger.

By default you can only disable Windows Messenger you
cant "get rid of it"...unless you go in and delete
registry settings, which is only advisable if you know
what you are doing (you'll have to find more info on the
net). Note that Outlook Express uses the communication
features of messenger and you risk this not working by
uninstalling Windows Messenger..not to mention what else
in Microsoft that may need the messenger service...I do
not know for example how Outlook would be effected?

I am not sure what Microsoft want to do? Build on Windows
Messenger or try and get everyone on MSN Messenger? Not
to mention the completely ridiculous question of why the
development of the two, especially when they are packaged
and sold as basically the same thing.






>-----Original Message-----
>I believe Windows Messenger comes with Windows XP Home
>Edition by design. MSN Messenger does not.
>
>Q1) What is the main difference between the two?
>
>Q2) How do I uninstall Windows Messenger if I want to
use
>MSN Messenger only?
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Dave
>.
>

[JD]

MSN
MSM
Netmeeting
Portrait

All lack what another has, so all fail, someone should be shot!

--
Jonathan Davey
UK
"John" > wrote in message
...
> Thats right. Windows Messenger is by default in Windows
> XP. MSN Messenger is for the rest of the windows
> platforms basically.
>
> Dont hang me up on this but I am made to believe that
> Technically MSN Messenger is a "subset" program of
> Windows Messenger so to speak. Windows messenger has a
> built in video COnversation whereas MSN Messenger uses a
> NetMeeting interface.
>
> There are however the more obvious visual user interface
> differences...i.e. the "tabs" in Windows Messenger are
> gone but are still available in MSN Messenger.
>
> By default you can only disable Windows Messenger you
> cant "get rid of it"...unless you go in and delete
> registry settings, which is only advisable if you know
> what you are doing (you'll have to find more info on the
> net). Note that Outlook Express uses the communication
> features of messenger and you risk this not working by
> uninstalling Windows Messenger..not to mention what else
> in Microsoft that may need the messenger service...I do
> not know for example how Outlook would be effected?
>
> I am not sure what Microsoft want to do? Build on Windows
> Messenger or try and get everyone on MSN Messenger? Not
> to mention the completely ridiculous question of why the
> development of the two, especially when they are packaged
> and sold as basically the same thing.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I believe Windows Messenger comes with Windows XP Home
> >Edition by design. MSN Messenger does not.
> >
> >Q1) What is the main difference between the two?
> >
> >Q2) How do I uninstall Windows Messenger if I want to
> use
> >MSN Messenger only?
> >
> >Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Dave
> >.
> >


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[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Jon,

Like Bluetooth/TAPI? =)
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"JD" > wrote in message ...
> MSN
> MSM
> Netmeeting
> Portrait
>
> All lack what another has, so all fail, someone should be shot!
>
> --
> Jonathan Davey
> UK
> "John" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Thats right. Windows Messenger is by default in Windows
> > XP. MSN Messenger is for the rest of the windows
> > platforms basically.
> >
> > Dont hang me up on this but I am made to believe that
> > Technically MSN Messenger is a "subset" program of
> > Windows Messenger so to speak. Windows messenger has a
> > built in video COnversation whereas MSN Messenger uses a
> > NetMeeting interface.
> >
> > There are however the more obvious visual user interface
> > differences...i.e. the "tabs" in Windows Messenger are
> > gone but are still available in MSN Messenger.
> >
> > By default you can only disable Windows Messenger you
> > cant "get rid of it"...unless you go in and delete
> > registry settings, which is only advisable if you know
> > what you are doing (you'll have to find more info on the
> > net). Note that Outlook Express uses the communication
> > features of messenger and you risk this not working by
> > uninstalling Windows Messenger..not to mention what else
> > in Microsoft that may need the messenger service...I do
> > not know for example how Outlook would be effected?
> >
> > I am not sure what Microsoft want to do? Build on Windows
> > Messenger or try and get everyone on MSN Messenger? Not
> > to mention the completely ridiculous question of why the
> > development of the two, especially when they are packaged
> > and sold as basically the same thing.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >I believe Windows Messenger comes with Windows XP Home
> > >Edition by design. MSN Messenger does not.
> > >
> > >Q1) What is the main difference between the two?
> > >
> > >Q2) How do I uninstall Windows Messenger if I want to
> > use
> > >MSN Messenger only?
> > >
> > >Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > >Thanks.
> > >
> > >Dave
> > >.
> > >
>
>
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[Weber Ress]

Let's imagine the follow situation:

The user A have MSN and user B have Windows Messenger. When the user B
initiate a video conversation, the user A need have the Windows Messenger,
or the MSN "understand" the Netmeeting API ?

[]'s

Weber

"John" > wrote in message
...
> Thats right. Windows Messenger is by default in Windows
> XP. MSN Messenger is for the rest of the windows
> platforms basically.
>
> Dont hang me up on this but I am made to believe that
> Technically MSN Messenger is a "subset" program of
> Windows Messenger so to speak. Windows messenger has a
> built in video COnversation whereas MSN Messenger uses a
> NetMeeting interface.
>
> There are however the more obvious visual user interface
> differences...i.e. the "tabs" in Windows Messenger are
> gone but are still available in MSN Messenger.
>
> By default you can only disable Windows Messenger you
> cant "get rid of it"...unless you go in and delete
> registry settings, which is only advisable if you know
> what you are doing (you'll have to find more info on the
> net). Note that Outlook Express uses the communication
> features of messenger and you risk this not working by
> uninstalling Windows Messenger..not to mention what else
> in Microsoft that may need the messenger service...I do
> not know for example how Outlook would be effected?
>
> I am not sure what Microsoft want to do? Build on Windows
> Messenger or try and get everyone on MSN Messenger? Not
> to mention the completely ridiculous question of why the
> development of the two, especially when they are packaged
> and sold as basically the same thing.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I believe Windows Messenger comes with Windows XP Home
> >Edition by design. MSN Messenger does not.
> >
> >Q1) What is the main difference between the two?
> >
> >Q2) How do I uninstall Windows Messenger if I want to
> use
> >MSN Messenger only?
> >
> >Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Dave
> >.
> >

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Weber,

The built-in Messenger video support in Windows XP Messenger versions is not Netmeeting -- as
such, after user B attempts to initiate a video conversation, both users will be told that
Windows XP is required.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com


"Weber Ress" > wrote in message
...
> Let's imagine the follow situation:
>
> The user A have MSN and user B have Windows Messenger. When the user B
> initiate a video conversation, the user A need have the Windows Messenger,
> or the MSN "understand" the Netmeeting API ?
>
> []'s
>
> Weber
>
> "John" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Thats right. Windows Messenger is by default in Windows
> > XP. MSN Messenger is for the rest of the windows
> > platforms basically.
> >
> > Dont hang me up on this but I am made to believe that
> > Technically MSN Messenger is a "subset" program of
> > Windows Messenger so to speak. Windows messenger has a
> > built in video COnversation whereas MSN Messenger uses a
> > NetMeeting interface.
> >
> > There are however the more obvious visual user interface
> > differences...i.e. the "tabs" in Windows Messenger are
> > gone but are still available in MSN Messenger.
> >
> > By default you can only disable Windows Messenger you
> > cant "get rid of it"...unless you go in and delete
> > registry settings, which is only advisable if you know
> > what you are doing (you'll have to find more info on the
> > net). Note that Outlook Express uses the communication
> > features of messenger and you risk this not working by
> > uninstalling Windows Messenger..not to mention what else
> > in Microsoft that may need the messenger service...I do
> > not know for example how Outlook would be effected?
> >
> > I am not sure what Microsoft want to do? Build on Windows
> > Messenger or try and get everyone on MSN Messenger? Not
> > to mention the completely ridiculous question of why the
> > development of the two, especially when they are packaged
> > and sold as basically the same thing.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >I believe Windows Messenger comes with Windows XP Home
> > >Edition by design. MSN Messenger does not.
> > >
> > >Q1) What is the main difference between the two?
> > >
> > >Q2) How do I uninstall Windows Messenger if I want to
> > use
> > >MSN Messenger only?
> > >
> > >Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > >Thanks.
> > >
> > >Dave
> > >.
> > >
>
>

[Weber Ress]

Hi Jonathan,

My question is:

For start a video-conversation, both users need have the same software ? MSN
or Windows Messenger ?

Thak's

Weber


"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Weber,
>
> The built-in Messenger video support in Windows XP Messenger versions is
not Netmeeting -- as
> such, after user B attempts to initiate a video conversation, both users
will be told that
> Windows XP is required.
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Windows MVP, Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
> "Weber Ress" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Let's imagine the follow situation:
> >
> > The user A have MSN and user B have Windows Messenger. When the user B
> > initiate a video conversation, the user A need have the Windows
Messenger,
> > or the MSN "understand" the Netmeeting API ?
> >
> > []'s
> >
> > Weber
> >
> > "John" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Thats right. Windows Messenger is by default in Windows
> > > XP. MSN Messenger is for the rest of the windows
> > > platforms basically.
> > >
> > > Dont hang me up on this but I am made to believe that
> > > Technically MSN Messenger is a "subset" program of
> > > Windows Messenger so to speak. Windows messenger has a
> > > built in video COnversation whereas MSN Messenger uses a
> > > NetMeeting interface.
> > >
> > > There are however the more obvious visual user interface
> > > differences...i.e. the "tabs" in Windows Messenger are
> > > gone but are still available in MSN Messenger.
> > >
> > > By default you can only disable Windows Messenger you
> > > cant "get rid of it"...unless you go in and delete
> > > registry settings, which is only advisable if you know
> > > what you are doing (you'll have to find more info on the
> > > net). Note that Outlook Express uses the communication
> > > features of messenger and you risk this not working by
> > > uninstalling Windows Messenger..not to mention what else
> > > in Microsoft that may need the messenger service...I do
> > > not know for example how Outlook would be effected?
> > >
> > > I am not sure what Microsoft want to do? Build on Windows
> > > Messenger or try and get everyone on MSN Messenger? Not
> > > to mention the completely ridiculous question of why the
> > > development of the two, especially when they are packaged
> > > and sold as basically the same thing.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >I believe Windows Messenger comes with Windows XP Home
> > > >Edition by design. MSN Messenger does not.
> > > >
> > > >Q1) What is the main difference between the two?
> > > >
> > > >Q2) How do I uninstall Windows Messenger if I want to
> > > use
> > > >MSN Messenger only?
> > > >
> > > >Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >Dave
> > > >.
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Weber,

Both MSN Messenger 5 or Windows Messenger will work fine, they're backwards compatible with
each other -- but, to use video, they have to be running on Windows XP.

For example,
Windows XP, Windows Messenger -> Windows 98, MSN Messenger 5 = won't work
Windows XP, MSN Messenger 5 -> Windows XP, Windows Messenger = will work

This refers to the "Start Camera" -- not the MSN Messenger 5 webcam support
(http://messenger.msn.com/support/webcam.asp), which is something totally different, and is
only compatible with MSN Messenger 5 (on all Windows platforms).

Note that voice works across all Windows and Messenger 4.x, 5.x versions.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Weber Ress" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> My question is:
>
> For start a video-conversation, both users need have the same software ? MSN
> or Windows Messenger ?
>
> Thak's
>
> Weber
>
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi Weber,
> >
> > The built-in Messenger video support in Windows XP Messenger versions is
> not Netmeeting -- as
> > such, after user B attempts to initiate a video conversation, both users
> will be told that
> > Windows XP is required.
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >
> > "Weber Ress" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Let's imagine the follow situation:
> > >
> > > The user A have MSN and user B have Windows Messenger. When the user B
> > > initiate a video conversation, the user A need have the Windows
> Messenger,
> > > or the MSN "understand" the Netmeeting API ?
> > >
> > > []'s
> > >
> > > Weber
> > >
> > > "John" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Thats right. Windows Messenger is by default in Windows
> > > > XP. MSN Messenger is for the rest of the windows
> > > > platforms basically.
> > > >
> > > > Dont hang me up on this but I am made to believe that
> > > > Technically MSN Messenger is a "subset" program of
> > > > Windows Messenger so to speak. Windows messenger has a
> > > > built in video COnversation whereas MSN Messenger uses a
> > > > NetMeeting interface.
> > > >
> > > > There are however the more obvious visual user interface
> > > > differences...i.e. the "tabs" in Windows Messenger are
> > > > gone but are still available in MSN Messenger.
> > > >
> > > > By default you can only disable Windows Messenger you
> > > > cant "get rid of it"...unless you go in and delete
> > > > registry settings, which is only advisable if you know
> > > > what you are doing (you'll have to find more info on the
> > > > net). Note that Outlook Express uses the communication
> > > > features of messenger and you risk this not working by
> > > > uninstalling Windows Messenger..not to mention what else
> > > > in Microsoft that may need the messenger service...I do
> > > > not know for example how Outlook would be effected?
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure what Microsoft want to do? Build on Windows
> > > > Messenger or try and get everyone on MSN Messenger? Not
> > > > to mention the completely ridiculous question of why the
> > > > development of the two, especially when they are packaged
> > > > and sold as basically the same thing.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >I believe Windows Messenger comes with Windows XP Home
> > > > >Edition by design. MSN Messenger does not.
> > > > >
> > > > >Q1) What is the main difference between the two?
> > > > >
> > > > >Q2) How do I uninstall Windows Messenger if I want to
> > > > use
> > > > >MSN Messenger only?
> > > > >
> > > > >Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >Dave
> > > > >.
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[JD]

Hi Mate,

Red Rag to a bull!!! :)

--
Jonathan Davey
UK
"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Jon,
>
> Like Bluetooth/TAPI? =)
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Windows MVP, Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
> "JD" > wrote in message
...
> > MSN
> > MSM
> > Netmeeting
> > Portrait
> >
> > All lack what another has, so all fail, someone should be shot!
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan Davey
> > UK
> > "John" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Thats right. Windows Messenger is by default in Windows
> > > XP. MSN Messenger is for the rest of the windows
> > > platforms basically.
> > >
> > > Dont hang me up on this but I am made to believe that
> > > Technically MSN Messenger is a "subset" program of
> > > Windows Messenger so to speak. Windows messenger has a
> > > built in video COnversation whereas MSN Messenger uses a
> > > NetMeeting interface.
> > >
> > > There are however the more obvious visual user interface
> > > differences...i.e. the "tabs" in Windows Messenger are
> > > gone but are still available in MSN Messenger.
> > >
> > > By default you can only disable Windows Messenger you
> > > cant "get rid of it"...unless you go in and delete
> > > registry settings, which is only advisable if you know
> > > what you are doing (you'll have to find more info on the
> > > net). Note that Outlook Express uses the communication
> > > features of messenger and you risk this not working by
> > > uninstalling Windows Messenger..not to mention what else
> > > in Microsoft that may need the messenger service...I do
> > > not know for example how Outlook would be effected?
> > >
> > > I am not sure what Microsoft want to do? Build on Windows
> > > Messenger or try and get everyone on MSN Messenger? Not
> > > to mention the completely ridiculous question of why the
> > > development of the two, especially when they are packaged
> > > and sold as basically the same thing.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >I believe Windows Messenger comes with Windows XP Home
> > > >Edition by design. MSN Messenger does not.
> > > >
> > > >Q1) What is the main difference between the two?
> > > >
> > > >Q2) How do I uninstall Windows Messenger if I want to
> > > use
> > > >MSN Messenger only?
> > > >
> > > >Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >Dave
> > > >.
> > > >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
>


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[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

*grin*.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"JD" > wrote in message ...
> Hi Mate,
>
> Red Rag to a bull!!! :)
>
> --
> Jonathan Davey
> UK
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi Jon,
> >
> > Like Bluetooth/TAPI? =)
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> > "JD" > wrote in message
> ...
> > > MSN
> > > MSM
> > > Netmeeting
> > > Portrait
> > >
> > > All lack what another has, so all fail, someone should be shot!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jonathan Davey
> > > UK
> > > "John" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Thats right. Windows Messenger is by default in Windows
> > > > XP. MSN Messenger is for the rest of the windows
> > > > platforms basically.
> > > >
> > > > Dont hang me up on this but I am made to believe that
> > > > Technically MSN Messenger is a "subset" program of
> > > > Windows Messenger so to speak. Windows messenger has a
> > > > built in video COnversation whereas MSN Messenger uses a
> > > > NetMeeting interface.
> > > >
> > > > There are however the more obvious visual user interface
> > > > differences...i.e. the "tabs" in Windows Messenger are
> > > > gone but are still available in MSN Messenger.
> > > >
> > > > By default you can only disable Windows Messenger you
> > > > cant "get rid of it"...unless you go in and delete
> > > > registry settings, which is only advisable if you know
> > > > what you are doing (you'll have to find more info on the
> > > > net). Note that Outlook Express uses the communication
> > > > features of messenger and you risk this not working by
> > > > uninstalling Windows Messenger..not to mention what else
> > > > in Microsoft that may need the messenger service...I do
> > > > not know for example how Outlook would be effected?
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure what Microsoft want to do? Build on Windows
> > > > Messenger or try and get everyone on MSN Messenger? Not
> > > > to mention the completely ridiculous question of why the
> > > > development of the two, especially when they are packaged
> > > > and sold as basically the same thing.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >I believe Windows Messenger comes with Windows XP Home
> > > > >Edition by design. MSN Messenger does not.
> > > > >
> > > > >Q1) What is the main difference between the two?
> > > > >
> > > > >Q2) How do I uninstall Windows Messenger if I want to
> > > > use
> > > > >MSN Messenger only?
> > > > >
> > > > >Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >Dave
> > > > >.
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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[jason]

Hi I seem to be having a problem signing in to windows
messenger I recently updated to msn but I had to restore
my system to an earlier date and now it will not let
anyone who uses my computer sign in to windows messenger
I keep getting an error sayimg password or passport name
does not exist please check your spelling of your
password allthough every one who uses this copmputer is
having the same problem can anyone help me.
THANKYOU JASON

[Chuck]

On Sat, 17 May 2003 14:29:30 +0100, "JD" > wrote:

>MSN
>MSM
>Netmeeting
>Portrait
>
>All lack what another has, so all fail, someone should be shot!

MSN Messenger PLUS Windows Messenger together is technically superior
to Yahoo Messenger

The video and audio quality in Windows Messenger is better than in
Yahoo Messenger, if you can get over the tiny video windows. But it's
far easier to get Yahoo Messenger audio and video working. And file
transfer.

Which will dominate in the long run??

Hint: How many of you out there have a VCR (or know someone with one).
Is it Betamax or VHS?


Chuck Croll

Spam sucks - PLEASE get rid of the spam before emailing me!

[Donna]

I am having the exact same problem. If you find the
solution, could you let me know? I'll do the same for
you if I figure it out. Thanks! Donna
>-----Original Message-----
>Hi I seem to be having a problem signing in to windows
>messenger I recently updated to msn but I had to restore
>my system to an earlier date and now it will not let
>anyone who uses my computer sign in to windows messenger
>I keep getting an error sayimg password or passport name
>does not exist please check your spelling of your
>password allthough every one who uses this copmputer is
>having the same problem can anyone help me.
> THANKYOU JASON
>.
>

[singha_lvr]

On Sun, 18 May 2003 08:21:01 -0700, Chuck >
wrote:

>On Sat, 17 May 2003 14:29:30 +0100, "JD" > wrote:
>
>>MSN
>>MSM
>>Netmeeting
>>Portrait
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>>All lack what another has, so all fail, someone should be shot!
>
>MSN Messenger PLUS Windows Messenger together is technically superior
>to Yahoo Messenger

Agreed, but you can't run the both of them simultaneously, and even if
you could it would be pretty silly.