messenger6 - Same problem and temporary solution

[Anthony]

I have the same problem in that it signs out immediately
saying I am signed in elsewhere.

The reason it does this for me is because messenger 4.7 is
still running somewhere in the background so I have to
open that up and sign out before messenger 6 can sign in.

It's fine as long as I don't open outlook express to make
a connection, as this automaticly runs messenger 4.7

Anyone know how to sever the ties between outlook express
and messenger so it doesn't interfere?

Or do you know wher microsoft are hiding away an installer
that will install new versions over the top of old
versions? I don't think it's the fault of it being a beta
version because I had the same problem before with another
earlier version install, which was a full version.



>-----Original Message-----
>hi guy's
>
>just downloaded this and now i can't log on...
>
>the old version was okay and nothing else has changed
>
>any ideas??
>
>cheers
>
>richard
>
>
>
>.
>

[Edward Rozee]

Open Outlook Express, select Tools -> Options and under the General tab,
uncheck the "Automatically sign in to Windows Messenger" box. Click Apply,
then Ok and your done.

--
Hope this helps,
Edward Rozee

** Remove the "_NOSPAM" tag in to contact me by email.
"Anthony" > wrote in message
...
> I have the same problem in that it signs out immediately
> saying I am signed in elsewhere.
>
> The reason it does this for me is because messenger 4.7 is
> still running somewhere in the background so I have to
> open that up and sign out before messenger 6 can sign in.
>
> It's fine as long as I don't open outlook express to make
> a connection, as this automaticly runs messenger 4.7
>
> Anyone know how to sever the ties between outlook express
> and messenger so it doesn't interfere?
>
> Or do you know wher microsoft are hiding away an installer
> that will install new versions over the top of old
> versions? I don't think it's the fault of it being a beta
> version because I had the same problem before with another
> earlier version install, which was a full version.
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >hi guy's
> >
> >just downloaded this and now i can't log on...
> >
> >the old version was okay and nothing else has changed
> >
> >any ideas??
> >
> >cheers
> >
> >richard
> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[Anthony]

That was the first thing I did. Even with the box ticked
off, oe6 still call messenger 4.x. Which in turn causes
ver 6 to logout. Why has version 6 not replaced 4.7???
>-----Original Message-----
>Open Outlook Express, select Tools -> Options and under
the General tab,
>uncheck the "Automatically sign in to Windows Messenger"
box. Click Apply,
>then Ok and your done.
>
>--
>Hope this helps,
>Edward Rozee
>
>** Remove the "_NOSPAM" tag in to contact me by email.
>"Anthony" > wrote in message
...
>> I have the same problem in that it signs out immediately
>> saying I am signed in elsewhere.
>>
>> The reason it does this for me is because messenger 4.7
is
>> still running somewhere in the background so I have to
>> open that up and sign out before messenger 6 can sign
in.
>>
>> It's fine as long as I don't open outlook express to
make
>> a connection, as this automaticly runs messenger 4.7
>>
>> Anyone know how to sever the ties between outlook
express
>> and messenger so it doesn't interfere?
>>
>> Or do you know wher microsoft are hiding away an
installer
>> that will install new versions over the top of old
>> versions? I don't think it's the fault of it being a
beta
>> version because I had the same problem before with
another
>> earlier version install, which was a full version.
>>
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >hi guy's
>> >
>> >just downloaded this and now i can't log on...
>> >
>> >the old version was okay and nothing else has changed
>> >
>> >any ideas??
>> >
>> >cheers
>> >
>> >richard
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Greetings Anthony,

MSN Messenger 6 does not replace Windows Messenger 4.7 any more then Microsoft Office
replaces Microsoft Works (they are separate, different products).

You can however, stop Outlook Express from loading Windows Messenger. To do so, download and
run this .reg file:
http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_oe.reg
You'll need to restart Outlook Express to see the change.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Anthony" > wrote in message
...
> That was the first thing I did. Even with the box ticked
> off, oe6 still call messenger 4.x. Which in turn causes
> ver 6 to logout. Why has version 6 not replaced 4.7???
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Open Outlook Express, select Tools -> Options and under
> the General tab,
> >uncheck the "Automatically sign in to Windows Messenger"
> box. Click Apply,
> >then Ok and your done.
> >
> >--
> >Hope this helps,
> >Edward Rozee
> >
> >** Remove the "_NOSPAM" tag in to contact me by email.
> >"Anthony" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> I have the same problem in that it signs out immediately
> >> saying I am signed in elsewhere.
> >>
> >> The reason it does this for me is because messenger 4.7
> is
> >> still running somewhere in the background so I have to
> >> open that up and sign out before messenger 6 can sign
> in.
> >>
> >> It's fine as long as I don't open outlook express to
> make
> >> a connection, as this automaticly runs messenger 4.7
> >>
> >> Anyone know how to sever the ties between outlook
> express
> >> and messenger so it doesn't interfere?
> >>
> >> Or do you know wher microsoft are hiding away an
> installer
> >> that will install new versions over the top of old
> >> versions? I don't think it's the fault of it being a
> beta
> >> version because I had the same problem before with
> another
> >> earlier version install, which was a full version.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >hi guy's
> >> >
> >> >just downloaded this and now i can't log on...
> >> >
> >> >the old version was okay and nothing else has changed
> >> >
> >> >any ideas??
> >> >
> >> >cheers
> >> >
> >> >richard
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[Anthony]

Thank you. That's stopped the contact list coming up in
Outlook Express but hasn't stopped Outlook Express
triggering the sign in for version 4.7, so the problem
still remains.

I appreciate the help. Does anyone have any other ideas?


>-----Original Message-----
>Greetings Anthony,
>
>MSN Messenger 6 does not replace Windows Messenger 4.7
any more then Microsoft Office
>replaces Microsoft Works (they are separate, different
products).
>
>You can however, stop Outlook Express from loading
Windows Messenger. To do so, download and
>run this .reg file:
>http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_o
e.reg
>You'll need to restart Outlook Express to see the change.
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>"Anthony" > wrote in message
...
>> That was the first thing I did. Even with the box ticked
>> off, oe6 still call messenger 4.x. Which in turn causes
>> ver 6 to logout. Why has version 6 not replaced 4.7???
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Open Outlook Express, select Tools -> Options and under
>> the General tab,
>> >uncheck the "Automatically sign in to Windows
Messenger"
>> box. Click Apply,
>> >then Ok and your done.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Hope this helps,
>> >Edward Rozee
>> >
>> >** Remove the "_NOSPAM" tag in to contact me by email.
>> >"Anthony" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> I have the same problem in that it signs out
immediately
>> >> saying I am signed in elsewhere.
>> >>
>> >> The reason it does this for me is because messenger
4.7
>> is
>> >> still running somewhere in the background so I have
to
>> >> open that up and sign out before messenger 6 can sign
>> in.
>> >>
>> >> It's fine as long as I don't open outlook express to
>> make
>> >> a connection, as this automaticly runs messenger 4.7
>> >>
>> >> Anyone know how to sever the ties between outlook
>> express
>> >> and messenger so it doesn't interfere?
>> >>
>> >> Or do you know wher microsoft are hiding away an
>> installer
>> >> that will install new versions over the top of old
>> >> versions? I don't think it's the fault of it being a
>> beta
>> >> version because I had the same problem before with
>> another
>> >> earlier version install, which was a full version.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >hi guy's
>> >> >
>> >> >just downloaded this and now i can't log on...
>> >> >
>> >> >the old version was okay and nothing else has
changed
>> >> >
>> >> >any ideas??
>> >> >
>> >> >cheers
>> >> >
>> >> >richard
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Anthony,

Try closing the Contacts pane in Outlook Express. Click the View menu, then Layout, uncheck
Contacts and then click OK.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Anthony" > wrote in message
...
> Thank you. That's stopped the contact list coming up in
> Outlook Express but hasn't stopped Outlook Express
> triggering the sign in for version 4.7, so the problem
> still remains.
>
> I appreciate the help. Does anyone have any other ideas?
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Greetings Anthony,
> >
> >MSN Messenger 6 does not replace Windows Messenger 4.7
> any more then Microsoft Office
> >replaces Microsoft Works (they are separate, different
> products).
> >
> >You can however, stop Outlook Express from loading
> Windows Messenger. To do so, download and
> >run this .reg file:
> >http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_o
> e.reg
> >You'll need to restart Outlook Express to see the change.
> >____________________________________________
> >Jonathan Kay
> >Windows MVP, Messenger
> >Associate Expert
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >"Anthony" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> That was the first thing I did. Even with the box ticked
> >> off, oe6 still call messenger 4.x. Which in turn causes
> >> ver 6 to logout. Why has version 6 not replaced 4.7???
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Open Outlook Express, select Tools -> Options and under
> >> the General tab,
> >> >uncheck the "Automatically sign in to Windows
> Messenger"
> >> box. Click Apply,
> >> >then Ok and your done.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Hope this helps,
> >> >Edward Rozee
> >> >
> >> >** Remove the "_NOSPAM" tag in to contact me by email.
> >> >"Anthony" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> I have the same problem in that it signs out
> immediately
> >> >> saying I am signed in elsewhere.
> >> >>
> >> >> The reason it does this for me is because messenger
> 4.7
> >> is
> >> >> still running somewhere in the background so I have
> to
> >> >> open that up and sign out before messenger 6 can sign
> >> in.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's fine as long as I don't open outlook express to
> >> make
> >> >> a connection, as this automaticly runs messenger 4.7
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyone know how to sever the ties between outlook
> >> express
> >> >> and messenger so it doesn't interfere?
> >> >>
> >> >> Or do you know wher microsoft are hiding away an
> >> installer
> >> >> that will install new versions over the top of old
> >> >> versions? I don't think it's the fault of it being a
> >> beta
> >> >> version because I had the same problem before with
> >> another
> >> >> earlier version install, which was a full version.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >hi guy's
> >> >> >
> >> >> >just downloaded this and now i can't log on...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >the old version was okay and nothing else has
> changed
> >> >> >
> >> >> >any ideas??
> >> >> >
> >> >> >cheers
> >> >> >
> >> >> >richard
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[¡¸ùúHimùý¡¹]

It will still coming out, so the only thing I can do is to hide the icon of Windows Messenger in System Tray in Windows XP.

[¡¸ùúHimùý¡¹]

I also want to ask why Windows Messenger will appear when I use Remote Assistance?
If I uninstalled Windows Messenger, I will not able to start Remote Assistance in MSN Messenger.

[Anthony]

Managed to solve the problem. Finaly found the solution in
the Microsoft Knowledge base no:302089. This has stopped
messenger triggering and automaticaly signing in, so I can
run what I want, especialy OE6 and allow msn messenger to
automaticaly log in.
>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Anthony,
>
>Try closing the Contacts pane in Outlook Express. Click
the View menu, then Layout, uncheck
>Contacts and then click OK.
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>"Anthony" > wrote in message
...
>> Thank you. That's stopped the contact list coming up in
>> Outlook Express but hasn't stopped Outlook Express
>> triggering the sign in for version 4.7, so the problem
>> still remains.
>>
>> I appreciate the help. Does anyone have any other ideas?
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Greetings Anthony,
>> >
>> >MSN Messenger 6 does not replace Windows Messenger 4.7
>> any more then Microsoft Office
>> >replaces Microsoft Works (they are separate, different
>> products).
>> >
>> >You can however, stop Outlook Express from loading
>> Windows Messenger. To do so, download and
>> >run this .reg file:
>>
>http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_o
>> e.reg
>> >You'll need to restart Outlook Express to see the
change.
>> >____________________________________________
>> >Jonathan Kay
>> >Windows MVP, Messenger
>> >Associate Expert
>> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> >
>> >"Anthony" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> That was the first thing I did. Even with the box
ticked
>> >> off, oe6 still call messenger 4.x. Which in turn
causes
>> >> ver 6 to logout. Why has version 6 not replaced
4.7???
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >Open Outlook Express, select Tools -> Options and
under
>> >> the General tab,
>> >> >uncheck the "Automatically sign in to Windows
>> Messenger"
>> >> box. Click Apply,
>> >> >then Ok and your done.
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Hope this helps,
>> >> >Edward Rozee
>> >> >
>> >> >** Remove the "_NOSPAM" tag in to contact me by
email.
>> >> >"Anthony" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> I have the same problem in that it signs out
>> immediately
>> >> >> saying I am signed in elsewhere.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The reason it does this for me is because
messenger
>> 4.7
>> >> is
>> >> >> still running somewhere in the background so I
have
>> to
>> >> >> open that up and sign out before messenger 6 can
sign
>> >> in.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's fine as long as I don't open outlook express
to
>> >> make
>> >> >> a connection, as this automaticly runs messenger
4.7
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Anyone know how to sever the ties between outlook
>> >> express
>> >> >> and messenger so it doesn't interfere?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Or do you know wher microsoft are hiding away an
>> >> installer
>> >> >> that will install new versions over the top of old
>> >> >> versions? I don't think it's the fault of it
being a
>> >> beta
>> >> >> version because I had the same problem before with
>> >> another
>> >> >> earlier version install, which was a full version.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >hi guy's
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >just downloaded this and now i can't log on...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >the old version was okay and nothing else has
>> changed
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >any ideas??
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >cheers
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >richard
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

[r.bartlett]

well thanks for hijacking my thread!!!




Original Message-----
hi guy's

downloaded this and now i can't log on...i just get 'problem with serivice
or internet connection'

the old version was okay and nothing else has changed any ideas??

cheers

richard
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