Changing the timing of wm popus...

[Juan]

Hello,

Sometimes I miss the popups that appear on the bottom-
right corner of my display (b/c I may be away for a few),
but I do hear them. Then, when I run back to the PC, the
popup has disappear. sometimes I see it fading away as I
get closer....

How do I change the length of time the popups stay
visible? Or, alternately, how do I view past alerts?
According to the MS KB, "windows messenger" should have
tabs where I should be able to review the alerts
(popups), but I have only seen those "tabs" on MSN
messenger. I have both wm 4.7 & msnm 5.0 installed on my
xp-pro system.



Thanks in advance,

Juan

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Greetings Juan,

Unfortunately you can't change the timing the popups -- in fact there are no options for
them.

What the KB is referring to is the .NET Alerts -- on the Alerts tab in Messenger, these
aren't the notifications that people have come online -- these are the alerts that you sign
up for at http://alerts.microsoft.com.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com


"Juan" > wrote in message
...
> Hello,
>
> Sometimes I miss the popups that appear on the bottom-
> right corner of my display (b/c I may be away for a few),
> but I do hear them. Then, when I run back to the PC, the
> popup has disappear. sometimes I see it fading away as I
> get closer....
>
> How do I change the length of time the popups stay
> visible? Or, alternately, how do I view past alerts?
> According to the MS KB, "windows messenger" should have
> tabs where I should be able to review the alerts
> (popups), but I have only seen those "tabs" on MSN
> messenger. I have both wm 4.7 & msnm 5.0 installed on my
> xp-pro system.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Juan

[Juan]

Thank you, Jonathan

Those are exactly the alerts I'm referring to. I signed
for traffic alerts & breaking news through .NET Alerts
and would simply like some way of re-viewing them in case
I missed them the first time around.

You're right about the tabs, but they only appear on the
MSN Messenger, not the Windows Messenger. I have WM set
to automatically sign me in with Windows (for my .NET
Alerts) figuring that MSN-M would allow me to connect as
a different user for IM without losing the .NET Alerts
I've signed up for.

Now, if both WM and MSN-M are providing me the same
functionality (since they both pop-up whenever I receive
an alert), it shouldn't matter which one I use, right??
Well, that's what I though, at least, until I found that
the only way to review past alerts was through the Alerts
tab which only exists in the MSN messenger 5.0; WM 4.7
does not even have that option in the Tools menu.

So back to my original issue. If I have the MSN plug-in
installed for WM (which I do), and I can only review my
alerts through MSN-M, then I should have MSN-M
automatically connect with Windows instead of WM...(?)

I guess if I dig enough I can wonder: if WM is designed
to be used by the OS so that IT can add corporate alerts
within their network and allow corporate IM-ing, why
would the viewing of received alerts only be available
through the MSN-M (which is designed for the mainstream
user)? Or am I just confused about which messenger is
for what purpose?

Thanks again,


Juan


>-----Original Message-----
>Greetings Juan,
>
>Unfortunately you can't change the timing the popups --
in fact there are no options for
>them.
>
>What the KB is referring to is the .NET Alerts -- on the
Alerts tab in Messenger, these
>aren't the notifications that people have come online --
these are the alerts that you sign
>up for at http://alerts.microsoft.com.
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
>"Juan" > wrote in message
...
>> Hello,
>>
>> Sometimes I miss the popups that appear on the bottom-
>> right corner of my display (b/c I may be away for a
few),
>> but I do hear them. Then, when I run back to the PC,
the
>> popup has disappear. sometimes I see it fading away
as I
>> get closer....
>>
>> How do I change the length of time the popups stay
>> visible? Or, alternately, how do I view past alerts?
>> According to the MS KB, "windows messenger" should have
>> tabs where I should be able to review the alerts
>> (popups), but I have only seen those "tabs" on MSN
>> messenger. I have both wm 4.7 & msnm 5.0 installed on
my
>> xp-pro system.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Juan
>
>
>.
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Juan,

The .NET Alert tab does exist in Windows Messenger -- to turn it on, just click Tools, Show
Tabs, and Microsoft .NET Alerts. If that isn't available, click the Tools menu, then
Options, then Privacy tab, verify that "this is a shared computer, so don't show my tabs" is
unchecked, click OK, sign off, then back on and try again.

The MSN Add-In actually isn't required for .NET Alerts -- .NET Alerts is not a MSN Service,
it's a Microsoft .NET service. As such, it's available in both clients. There is no such
thing as "corporate alerts" (at least not presently) for Messenger -- both clients are
designed for the mainstream -- MSN being the one for MSN services, and Windows Messenger for
access to Windows based technologies like Exchange and custom Communication Services
(Greenwich/RTC Server).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com


"Juan" > wrote in message
...
> Thank you, Jonathan
>
> Those are exactly the alerts I'm referring to. I signed
> for traffic alerts & breaking news through .NET Alerts
> and would simply like some way of re-viewing them in case
> I missed them the first time around.
>
> You're right about the tabs, but they only appear on the
> MSN Messenger, not the Windows Messenger. I have WM set
> to automatically sign me in with Windows (for my .NET
> Alerts) figuring that MSN-M would allow me to connect as
> a different user for IM without losing the .NET Alerts
> I've signed up for.
>
> Now, if both WM and MSN-M are providing me the same
> functionality (since they both pop-up whenever I receive
> an alert), it shouldn't matter which one I use, right??
> Well, that's what I though, at least, until I found that
> the only way to review past alerts was through the Alerts
> tab which only exists in the MSN messenger 5.0; WM 4.7
> does not even have that option in the Tools menu.
>
> So back to my original issue. If I have the MSN plug-in
> installed for WM (which I do), and I can only review my
> alerts through MSN-M, then I should have MSN-M
> automatically connect with Windows instead of WM...(?)
>
> I guess if I dig enough I can wonder: if WM is designed
> to be used by the OS so that IT can add corporate alerts
> within their network and allow corporate IM-ing, why
> would the viewing of received alerts only be available
> through the MSN-M (which is designed for the mainstream
> user)? Or am I just confused about which messenger is
> for what purpose?
>
> Thanks again,
>
>
> Juan
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Greetings Juan,
> >
> >Unfortunately you can't change the timing the popups --
> in fact there are no options for
> >them.
> >
> >What the KB is referring to is the .NET Alerts -- on the
> Alerts tab in Messenger, these
> >aren't the notifications that people have come online --
> these are the alerts that you sign
> >up for at http://alerts.microsoft.com.
> >____________________________________________
> >Jonathan Kay
> >Windows MVP, Messenger
> >Associate Expert
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >
> >"Juan" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Sometimes I miss the popups that appear on the bottom-
> >> right corner of my display (b/c I may be away for a
> few),
> >> but I do hear them. Then, when I run back to the PC,
> the
> >> popup has disappear. sometimes I see it fading away
> as I
> >> get closer....
> >>
> >> How do I change the length of time the popups stay
> >> visible? Or, alternately, how do I view past alerts?
> >> According to the MS KB, "windows messenger" should have
> >> tabs where I should be able to review the alerts
> >> (popups), but I have only seen those "tabs" on MSN
> >> messenger. I have both wm 4.7 & msnm 5.0 installed on
> my
> >> xp-pro system.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >>
> >> Juan
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[Juan]

Hi Jonathan,

It worked, thanks. Now I have the same alerts
functionality on both MSN messenger and Windows
Messenger. Although you briefly explained it, would you
mind expanding on when I would use one messenger over the
other?

As far as I can tell, the only advantage of having both
messenger programs is that I could have two separate
sessions going (one for my .NET Alerts and the other one
to allow any of the other PC users to IM & check their
own email without having to subscribe to the same .NET
Alerts for each user).

Now that I chagned the privacy settings on WM, I can get
my .NET Alerts through either messenger, so I'm not sure
I truly understand the differences between both messenger
programs and how specifically I could use one over the
other...

Thanks again. I know I'm asking a lot of questions, but
you've truly help me understand so far, so I hope you
don't mind :)

Juan

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Juan,
>
>The .NET Alert tab does exist in Windows Messenger -- to
turn it on, just click Tools, Show
>Tabs, and Microsoft .NET Alerts. If that isn't
available, click the Tools menu, then
>Options, then Privacy tab, verify that "this is a shared
computer, so don't show my tabs" is
>unchecked, click OK, sign off, then back on and try
again.
>
>The MSN Add-In actually isn't required for .NET Alerts --
.NET Alerts is not a MSN Service,
>it's a Microsoft .NET service. As such, it's available
in both clients. There is no such
>thing as "corporate alerts" (at least not presently) for
Messenger -- both clients are
>designed for the mainstream -- MSN being the one for MSN
services, and Windows Messenger for
>access to Windows based technologies like Exchange and
custom Communication Services
>(Greenwich/RTC Server).
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
>"Juan" > wrote in message
...
>> Thank you, Jonathan
>>
>> Those are exactly the alerts I'm referring to. I
signed
>> for traffic alerts & breaking news through .NET Alerts
>> and would simply like some way of re-viewing them in
case
>> I missed them the first time around.
>>
>> You're right about the tabs, but they only appear on
the
>> MSN Messenger, not the Windows Messenger. I have WM
set
>> to automatically sign me in with Windows (for my .NET
>> Alerts) figuring that MSN-M would allow me to connect
as
>> a different user for IM without losing the .NET Alerts
>> I've signed up for.
>>
>> Now, if both WM and MSN-M are providing me the same
>> functionality (since they both pop-up whenever I
receive
>> an alert), it shouldn't matter which one I use, right??
>> Well, that's what I though, at least, until I found
that
>> the only way to review past alerts was through the
Alerts
>> tab which only exists in the MSN messenger 5.0; WM 4.7
>> does not even have that option in the Tools menu.
>>
>> So back to my original issue. If I have the MSN plug-
in
>> installed for WM (which I do), and I can only review my
>> alerts through MSN-M, then I should have MSN-M
>> automatically connect with Windows instead of WM...(?)
>>
>> I guess if I dig enough I can wonder: if WM is
designed
>> to be used by the OS so that IT can add corporate
alerts
>> within their network and allow corporate IM-ing, why
>> would the viewing of received alerts only be available
>> through the MSN-M (which is designed for the mainstream
>> user)? Or am I just confused about which messenger is
>> for what purpose?
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>>
>> Juan
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Greetings Juan,
>> >
>> >Unfortunately you can't change the timing the popups -
-
>> in fact there are no options for
>> >them.
>> >
>> >What the KB is referring to is the .NET Alerts -- on
the
>> Alerts tab in Messenger, these
>> >aren't the notifications that people have come
online --
>> these are the alerts that you sign
>> >up for at http://alerts.microsoft.com.
>> >____________________________________________
>> >Jonathan Kay
>> >Windows MVP, Messenger
>> >Associate Expert
>> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> >
>> >
>> >"Juan" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> Sometimes I miss the popups that appear on the
bottom-
>> >> right corner of my display (b/c I may be away for a
>> few),
>> >> but I do hear them. Then, when I run back to the
PC,
>> the
>> >> popup has disappear. sometimes I see it fading away
>> as I
>> >> get closer....
>> >>
>> >> How do I change the length of time the popups stay
>> >> visible? Or, alternately, how do I view past
alerts?
>> >> According to the MS KB, "windows messenger" should
have
>> >> tabs where I should be able to review the alerts
>> >> (popups), but I have only seen those "tabs" on MSN
>> >> messenger. I have both wm 4.7 & msnm 5.0 installed
on
>> my
>> >> xp-pro system.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance,
>> >>
>> >> Juan
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Juan,

At this point the differences between the two are quite small, some like the MSN Messenger 5
over Windows Messenger better simply because it has support for UPnP file transfer, has an
option to "View Offline Contacts in a Group", better Messenger spam protection yet others
prefer Windows Messenger 4.x, simply because they need the SIP/RTC support, Exchange support
(in the Exchange version) or simply don't want to see advertisements.

The changes in the next versions coming up (MSN Messenger 6 and Windows Messenger 5) will be
much more apparent (they're both still in beta, so the featuresets aren't really stabilized
yet enough to talk about both, although see:
http://messenger.msn.com/support/sneakpeek.asp for MSN Messenger 6 info).

Realistically, you can use whichever one you want, depending on your needs (although many
people, including myself, use it to simply have to accounts signed in at once). Like I said
earlier, .NET Alerts are a Microsoft .NET technology, just like .NET Messenger (the network
both MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger connect to), whereas Hotmail is a MSN technology,
and therefore is in MSN Messenger (minus any Add-Ins in Windows Messenger) and Windows
Messenger has an emphasis on Windows-based technologies, like Exchange and RTC Server's
(Greenwich) running on Windows Server 2003.

Glad to be of assistance =).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com


"Juan" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> It worked, thanks. Now I have the same alerts
> functionality on both MSN messenger and Windows
> Messenger. Although you briefly explained it, would you
> mind expanding on when I would use one messenger over the
> other?
>
> As far as I can tell, the only advantage of having both
> messenger programs is that I could have two separate
> sessions going (one for my .NET Alerts and the other one
> to allow any of the other PC users to IM & check their
> own email without having to subscribe to the same .NET
> Alerts for each user).
>
> Now that I chagned the privacy settings on WM, I can get
> my .NET Alerts through either messenger, so I'm not sure
> I truly understand the differences between both messenger
> programs and how specifically I could use one over the
> other...
>
> Thanks again. I know I'm asking a lot of questions, but
> you've truly help me understand so far, so I hope you
> don't mind :)
>
> Juan
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hi Juan,
> >
> >The .NET Alert tab does exist in Windows Messenger -- to
> turn it on, just click Tools, Show
> >Tabs, and Microsoft .NET Alerts. If that isn't
> available, click the Tools menu, then
> >Options, then Privacy tab, verify that "this is a shared
> computer, so don't show my tabs" is
> >unchecked, click OK, sign off, then back on and try
> again.
> >
> >The MSN Add-In actually isn't required for .NET Alerts --
> .NET Alerts is not a MSN Service,
> >it's a Microsoft .NET service. As such, it's available
> in both clients. There is no such
> >thing as "corporate alerts" (at least not presently) for
> Messenger -- both clients are
> >designed for the mainstream -- MSN being the one for MSN
> services, and Windows Messenger for
> >access to Windows based technologies like Exchange and
> custom Communication Services
> >(Greenwich/RTC Server).
> >____________________________________________
> >Jonathan Kay
> >Windows MVP, Messenger
> >Associate Expert
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >
> >"Juan" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Thank you, Jonathan
> >>
> >> Those are exactly the alerts I'm referring to. I
> signed
> >> for traffic alerts & breaking news through .NET Alerts
> >> and would simply like some way of re-viewing them in
> case
> >> I missed them the first time around.
> >>
> >> You're right about the tabs, but they only appear on
> the
> >> MSN Messenger, not the Windows Messenger. I have WM
> set
> >> to automatically sign me in with Windows (for my .NET
> >> Alerts) figuring that MSN-M would allow me to connect
> as
> >> a different user for IM without losing the .NET Alerts
> >> I've signed up for.
> >>
> >> Now, if both WM and MSN-M are providing me the same
> >> functionality (since they both pop-up whenever I
> receive
> >> an alert), it shouldn't matter which one I use, right??
> >> Well, that's what I though, at least, until I found
> that
> >> the only way to review past alerts was through the
> Alerts
> >> tab which only exists in the MSN messenger 5.0; WM 4.7
> >> does not even have that option in the Tools menu.
> >>
> >> So back to my original issue. If I have the MSN plug-
> in
> >> installed for WM (which I do), and I can only review my
> >> alerts through MSN-M, then I should have MSN-M
> >> automatically connect with Windows instead of WM...(?)
> >>
> >> I guess if I dig enough I can wonder: if WM is
> designed
> >> to be used by the OS so that IT can add corporate
> alerts
> >> within their network and allow corporate IM-ing, why
> >> would the viewing of received alerts only be available
> >> through the MSN-M (which is designed for the mainstream
> >> user)? Or am I just confused about which messenger is
> >> for what purpose?
> >>
> >> Thanks again,
> >>
> >>
> >> Juan
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Greetings Juan,
> >> >
> >> >Unfortunately you can't change the timing the popups -
> -
> >> in fact there are no options for
> >> >them.
> >> >
> >> >What the KB is referring to is the .NET Alerts -- on
> the
> >> Alerts tab in Messenger, these
> >> >aren't the notifications that people have come
> online --
> >> these are the alerts that you sign
> >> >up for at http://alerts.microsoft.com.
> >> >____________________________________________
> >> >Jonathan Kay
> >> >Windows MVP, Messenger
> >> >Associate Expert
> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Juan" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> Hello,
> >> >>
> >> >> Sometimes I miss the popups that appear on the
> bottom-
> >> >> right corner of my display (b/c I may be away for a
> >> few),
> >> >> but I do hear them. Then, when I run back to the
> PC,
> >> the
> >> >> popup has disappear. sometimes I see it fading away
> >> as I
> >> >> get closer....
> >> >>
> >> >> How do I change the length of time the popups stay
> >> >> visible? Or, alternately, how do I view past
> alerts?
> >> >> According to the MS KB, "windows messenger" should
> have
> >> >> tabs where I should be able to review the alerts
> >> >> (popups), but I have only seen those "tabs" on MSN
> >> >> messenger. I have both wm 4.7 & msnm 5.0 installed
> on
> >> my
> >> >> xp-pro system.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> >>
> >> >> Juan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >