Messenger (4.7/5.0) behind WinXP Firewall

[coucou]

I'm using a small local network (2 PCs desk and laptop
direct connected without router) with Files and Internet
sharing.
My desk PC is the main computer, it's direct connected to
Internet behind WinXP Firewall exclusively (NO other
firewall installed).

PROBLEM
After installing QuickCam from Logitech I start using it
with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
When the WinXP FIREWALL is DISABLED everything WORKS FINE.
When the WinXP FIREWALL is ENAABLED, I can share files
and instant messages BUT NO VIDEO/AUDIO CONVERSATION
starting.
I UNinstalled and re-installed MSN Messenger 5.0 without
success to my Firewall problem.

What do I need configuring for WinXP Firewall enabled and
working with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.

Best Regards

[Edward Rozee]

I believe Video/Voice chat uses ports 5004/65535 UDP (someone correct me if
I'm wrong). Try adding a service to unblock those two ports on the Windows
XP Firewall.

Start -> Control Pannel -> Network Connections -> [Your connection] ->
Properties -> Advanced -> Settings -> Add

I don't know if this will work, because I am not sure of the port numbers
but it's worth a try.

--
Hope this helps,
Edward Rozee

** Remove the "_NOSPAM" tag in to contact me by email.
"coucou" > wrote in message
...
> I'm using a small local network (2 PCs desk and laptop
> direct connected without router) with Files and Internet
> sharing.
> My desk PC is the main computer, it's direct connected to
> Internet behind WinXP Firewall exclusively (NO other
> firewall installed).
>
> PROBLEM
> After installing QuickCam from Logitech I start using it
> with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
> When the WinXP FIREWALL is DISABLED everything WORKS FINE.
> When the WinXP FIREWALL is ENAABLED, I can share files
> and instant messages BUT NO VIDEO/AUDIO CONVERSATION
> starting.
> I UNinstalled and re-installed MSN Messenger 5.0 without
> success to my Firewall problem.
>
> What do I need configuring for WinXP Firewall enabled and
> working with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
>
> Best Regards

[Emile NIDAM]

Edward,

Yes I know about this technote, it's used for earlier Messenger.

I'm using the latest version Windows Messenger 4.7 and/or MSN Messenger 5.0.
How far I know (someone correct me if I'm wrong) It is not 2 ports
(5004/65535 ) concerned, you may read range of ports (5004 to 65535 ) and
there is no option to open a range of ports, MS recommand to open UDP 5060
port. Those latest version of Messenger address DYNAMICALLY the Video/voice
port (1 of 5004 to 65535 ).

Thanks


"Edward Rozee" > a écrit dans le message de
...
> I believe Video/Voice chat uses ports 5004/65535 UDP (someone correct me
if
> I'm wrong). Try adding a service to unblock those two ports on the Windows
> XP Firewall.
>
> Start -> Control Pannel -> Network Connections -> [Your connection] ->
> Properties -> Advanced -> Settings -> Add
>
> I don't know if this will work, because I am not sure of the port numbers
> but it's worth a try.
>
> --
> Hope this helps,
> Edward Rozee
>
> ** Remove the "_NOSPAM" tag in to contact me by email.
> "coucou" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'm using a small local network (2 PCs desk and laptop
> > direct connected without router) with Files and Internet
> > sharing.
> > My desk PC is the main computer, it's direct connected to
> > Internet behind WinXP Firewall exclusively (NO other
> > firewall installed).
> >
> > PROBLEM
> > After installing QuickCam from Logitech I start using it
> > with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
> > When the WinXP FIREWALL is DISABLED everything WORKS FINE.
> > When the WinXP FIREWALL is ENAABLED, I can share files
> > and instant messages BUT NO VIDEO/AUDIO CONVERSATION
> > starting.
> > I UNinstalled and re-installed MSN Messenger 5.0 without
> > success to my Firewall problem.
> >
> > What do I need configuring for WinXP Firewall enabled and
> > working with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
> >
> > Best Regards
>
>

[Edward Rozee]

Ah I see. Thanks for clearing that up for me :)

--
Cheers,
Edward Rozee

** Remove the "_NOSPAM" tag in to contact me by email.
"Emile NIDAM" > wrote in message
...
> Edward,
>
> Yes I know about this technote, it's used for earlier Messenger.
>
> I'm using the latest version Windows Messenger 4.7 and/or MSN Messenger
5.0.
> How far I know (someone correct me if I'm wrong) It is not 2 ports
> (5004/65535 ) concerned, you may read range of ports (5004 to 65535 ) and
> there is no option to open a range of ports, MS recommand to open UDP 5060
> port. Those latest version of Messenger address DYNAMICALLY the
Video/voice
> port (1 of 5004 to 65535 ).
>
> Thanks
>
>
> "Edward Rozee" > a écrit dans le message de
> ...
> > I believe Video/Voice chat uses ports 5004/65535 UDP (someone correct me
> if
> > I'm wrong). Try adding a service to unblock those two ports on the
Windows
> > XP Firewall.
> >
> > Start -> Control Pannel -> Network Connections -> [Your connection] ->
> > Properties -> Advanced -> Settings -> Add
> >
> > I don't know if this will work, because I am not sure of the port
numbers
> > but it's worth a try.
> >
> > --
> > Hope this helps,
> > Edward Rozee
> >
> > ** Remove the "_NOSPAM" tag in to contact me by email.
> > "coucou" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I'm using a small local network (2 PCs desk and laptop
> > > direct connected without router) with Files and Internet
> > > sharing.
> > > My desk PC is the main computer, it's direct connected to
> > > Internet behind WinXP Firewall exclusively (NO other
> > > firewall installed).
> > >
> > > PROBLEM
> > > After installing QuickCam from Logitech I start using it
> > > with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
> > > When the WinXP FIREWALL is DISABLED everything WORKS FINE.
> > > When the WinXP FIREWALL is ENAABLED, I can share files
> > > and instant messages BUT NO VIDEO/AUDIO CONVERSATION
> > > starting.
> > > I UNinstalled and re-installed MSN Messenger 5.0 without
> > > success to my Firewall problem.
> > >
> > > What do I need configuring for WinXP Firewall enabled and
> > > working with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> >
> >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Greetings,

Windows/MSN Messenger and the Internet Connection Firewall (ICF) support Universal Plug and
Play (UPnP), which allows Messenger to open and forward the ports necessary in the ICF for
voice/video conversations. However, it doesn't appear to be working.

Firstly, check to make sure that ports are actually being opened. To do so, click Start, All
Programs, Accessories, Communications, Network Connections. Right click your connection,
then click Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and then click the Settings button. Check to
see if there are 'msmsgs' or 'msnmsgr' entries. If so, click each 'msmsgs' or 'msnmsgr'
entry and then choose 'Delete' to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the Messenger
icon, choose Exit), then restart Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again. If it
still doesn't work, go back into the Settings again (see above), and see if 'msmsgs' or
'msnmsgr' entries reappeared. If they do, then that part is working properly. If they
didn't, then there's a different issue.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"coucou" > wrote in message ...
> I'm using a small local network (2 PCs desk and laptop
> direct connected without router) with Files and Internet
> sharing.
> My desk PC is the main computer, it's direct connected to
> Internet behind WinXP Firewall exclusively (NO other
> firewall installed).
>
> PROBLEM
> After installing QuickCam from Logitech I start using it
> with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
> When the WinXP FIREWALL is DISABLED everything WORKS FINE.
> When the WinXP FIREWALL is ENAABLED, I can share files
> and instant messages BUT NO VIDEO/AUDIO CONVERSATION
> starting.
> I UNinstalled and re-installed MSN Messenger 5.0 without
> success to my Firewall problem.
>
> What do I need configuring for WinXP Firewall enabled and
> working with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
>
> Best Regards

[coucou]

Thanks for yr Help Jonathan,
In fact, I found many msmsgs which I delete, No 1 msnmsgr.
I close and reopen MSN Messenger with firewall enabled No success and No
msmsgs entries either.
I test with firewall disabled Video/voice OK.

I stop and restart PC, reopen MSN Messenger with firewall enabled, No
success.
I close MSN an opened Windows Messenger 4.7 No success but they are 2 msmsgs
entries (TCP/UDP) checked.
When I closed Windows Messenger No more msmsgs entries (TCP/UDP) checked
(they are deleted automatically).

Thanks for other/different issue
Emile

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > a écrit dans le message
de ...
> Greetings,
>
> Windows/MSN Messenger and the Internet Connection Firewall (ICF) support
Universal Plug and
> Play (UPnP), which allows Messenger to open and forward the ports
necessary in the ICF for
> voice/video conversations. However, it doesn't appear to be working.
>
> Firstly, check to make sure that ports are actually being opened. To do
so, click Start, All
> Programs, Accessories, Communications, Network Connections. Right click
your connection,
> then click Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and then click the Settings
button. Check to
> see if there are 'msmsgs' or 'msnmsgr' entries. If so, click each
'msmsgs' or 'msnmsgr'
> entry and then choose 'Delete' to each one. Then close Messenger
(right-click the Messenger
> icon, choose Exit), then restart Messenger and try a voice/video
conversation again. If it
> still doesn't work, go back into the Settings again (see above), and see
if 'msmsgs' or
> 'msnmsgr' entries reappeared. If they do, then that part is working
properly. If they
> didn't, then there's a different issue.
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Windows MVP, Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
> "coucou" > wrote in message
...
> > I'm using a small local network (2 PCs desk and laptop
> > direct connected without router) with Files and Internet
> > sharing.
> > My desk PC is the main computer, it's direct connected to
> > Internet behind WinXP Firewall exclusively (NO other
> > firewall installed).
> >
> > PROBLEM
> > After installing QuickCam from Logitech I start using it
> > with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
> > When the WinXP FIREWALL is DISABLED everything WORKS FINE.
> > When the WinXP FIREWALL is ENAABLED, I can share files
> > and instant messages BUT NO VIDEO/AUDIO CONVERSATION
> > starting.
> > I UNinstalled and re-installed MSN Messenger 5.0 without
> > success to my Firewall problem.
> >
> > What do I need configuring for WinXP Firewall enabled and
> > working with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
> >
> > Best Regards
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Emile,

Well it does appear to be opening/closing the ports properly then. Note: MSN Messenger
doesn't make the two ports when it opens and Windows Messenger does -- exactly what is
occurring.

So, the firewall is working properly, I assume you're using the same contact to connect to
when you turn the firewall off? Have you tried having your friend initiate the conversation
instead of you, or vice versa (although realistically, both ways should work)?
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"coucou" > wrote in message ...
> Thanks for yr Help Jonathan,
> In fact, I found many msmsgs which I delete, No 1 msnmsgr.
> I close and reopen MSN Messenger with firewall enabled No success and No
> msmsgs entries either.
> I test with firewall disabled Video/voice OK.
>
> I stop and restart PC, reopen MSN Messenger with firewall enabled, No
> success.
> I close MSN an opened Windows Messenger 4.7 No success but they are 2 msmsgs
> entries (TCP/UDP) checked.
> When I closed Windows Messenger No more msmsgs entries (TCP/UDP) checked
> (they are deleted automatically).
>
> Thanks for other/different issue
> Emile
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > a écrit dans le message
> de ...
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Windows/MSN Messenger and the Internet Connection Firewall (ICF) support
> Universal Plug and
> > Play (UPnP), which allows Messenger to open and forward the ports
> necessary in the ICF for
> > voice/video conversations. However, it doesn't appear to be working.
> >
> > Firstly, check to make sure that ports are actually being opened. To do
> so, click Start, All
> > Programs, Accessories, Communications, Network Connections. Right click
> your connection,
> > then click Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and then click the Settings
> button. Check to
> > see if there are 'msmsgs' or 'msnmsgr' entries. If so, click each
> 'msmsgs' or 'msnmsgr'
> > entry and then choose 'Delete' to each one. Then close Messenger
> (right-click the Messenger
> > icon, choose Exit), then restart Messenger and try a voice/video
> conversation again. If it
> > still doesn't work, go back into the Settings again (see above), and see
> if 'msmsgs' or
> > 'msnmsgr' entries reappeared. If they do, then that part is working
> properly. If they
> > didn't, then there's a different issue.
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> > "coucou" > wrote in message
> ...
> > > I'm using a small local network (2 PCs desk and laptop
> > > direct connected without router) with Files and Internet
> > > sharing.
> > > My desk PC is the main computer, it's direct connected to
> > > Internet behind WinXP Firewall exclusively (NO other
> > > firewall installed).
> > >
> > > PROBLEM
> > > After installing QuickCam from Logitech I start using it
> > > with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
> > > When the WinXP FIREWALL is DISABLED everything WORKS FINE.
> > > When the WinXP FIREWALL is ENAABLED, I can share files
> > > and instant messages BUT NO VIDEO/AUDIO CONVERSATION
> > > starting.
> > > I UNinstalled and re-installed MSN Messenger 5.0 without
> > > success to my Firewall problem.
> > >
> > > What do I need configuring for WinXP Firewall enabled and
> > > working with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> >
> >
>
>

[coucou]

Hi Jonathan
I uninstalled and re-re-reinstalled MSN, this time I found 2 msnmsgr
(TCP/UDP) cheked and does not disappear even i disable the firewall.
What do you mean about "using the same contact to connect when you turn the
firewall off" What contact??
We try initiating the conversation in both ways, NO CHANCE to get
video/voice.

I'M BREAKING DOOOOOWN!!!
What goes wrong???
Emile

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > a écrit dans le message
de ...
> Hi Emile,
>
> Well it does appear to be opening/closing the ports properly then. Note:
MSN Messenger
> doesn't make the two ports when it opens and Windows Messenger does --
exactly what is
> occurring.
>
> So, the firewall is working properly, I assume you're using the same
contact to connect to
> when you turn the firewall off? Have you tried having your friend
initiate the conversation
> instead of you, or vice versa (although realistically, both ways should
work)?
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Windows MVP, Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
> "coucou" > wrote in message
...
> > Thanks for yr Help Jonathan,
> > In fact, I found many msmsgs which I delete, No 1 msnmsgr.
> > I close and reopen MSN Messenger with firewall enabled No success and No
> > msmsgs entries either.
> > I test with firewall disabled Video/voice OK.
> >
> > I stop and restart PC, reopen MSN Messenger with firewall enabled, No
> > success.
> > I close MSN an opened Windows Messenger 4.7 No success but they are 2
msmsgs
> > entries (TCP/UDP) checked.
> > When I closed Windows Messenger No more msmsgs entries (TCP/UDP) checked
> > (they are deleted automatically).
> >
> > Thanks for other/different issue
> > Emile
> >
> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > a écrit dans le
message
> > de ...
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > Windows/MSN Messenger and the Internet Connection Firewall (ICF)
support
> > Universal Plug and
> > > Play (UPnP), which allows Messenger to open and forward the ports
> > necessary in the ICF for
> > > voice/video conversations. However, it doesn't appear to be working.
> > >
> > > Firstly, check to make sure that ports are actually being opened. To
do
> > so, click Start, All
> > > Programs, Accessories, Communications, Network Connections. Right
click
> > your connection,
> > > then click Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and then click the
Settings
> > button. Check to
> > > see if there are 'msmsgs' or 'msnmsgr' entries. If so, click each
> > 'msmsgs' or 'msnmsgr'
> > > entry and then choose 'Delete' to each one. Then close Messenger
> > (right-click the Messenger
> > > icon, choose Exit), then restart Messenger and try a voice/video
> > conversation again. If it
> > > still doesn't work, go back into the Settings again (see above), and
see
> > if 'msmsgs' or
> > > 'msnmsgr' entries reappeared. If they do, then that part is working
> > properly. If they
> > > didn't, then there's a different issue.
> > > ____________________________________________
> > > Jonathan Kay
> > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > >
> > > "coucou" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > > I'm using a small local network (2 PCs desk and laptop
> > > > direct connected without router) with Files and Internet
> > > > sharing.
> > > > My desk PC is the main computer, it's direct connected to
> > > > Internet behind WinXP Firewall exclusively (NO other
> > > > firewall installed).
> > > >
> > > > PROBLEM
> > > > After installing QuickCam from Logitech I start using it
> > > > with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
> > > > When the WinXP FIREWALL is DISABLED everything WORKS FINE.
> > > > When the WinXP FIREWALL is ENAABLED, I can share files
> > > > and instant messages BUT NO VIDEO/AUDIO CONVERSATION
> > > > starting.
> > > > I UNinstalled and re-installed MSN Messenger 5.0 without
> > > > success to my Firewall problem.
> > > >
> > > > What do I need configuring for WinXP Firewall enabled and
> > > > working with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[coucou]

Hi Jonathan
Someone told me to check the first firwall option desk remote. What the
consequence of that? That really couls solving my problem???
Waiting for further issue
Thanks
Emile

"coucou" > a écrit dans le message de
...
> Hi Jonathan
> I uninstalled and re-re-reinstalled MSN, this time I found 2 msnmsgr
> (TCP/UDP) cheked and does not disappear even i disable the firewall.
> What do you mean about "using the same contact to connect when you turn
the
> firewall off" What contact??
> We try initiating the conversation in both ways, NO CHANCE to get
> video/voice.
>
> I'M BREAKING DOOOOOWN!!!
> What goes wrong???
> Emile
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > a écrit dans le
message
> de ...
> > Hi Emile,
> >
> > Well it does appear to be opening/closing the ports properly then.
Note:
> MSN Messenger
> > doesn't make the two ports when it opens and Windows Messenger does --
> exactly what is
> > occurring.
> >
> > So, the firewall is working properly, I assume you're using the same
> contact to connect to
> > when you turn the firewall off? Have you tried having your friend
> initiate the conversation
> > instead of you, or vice versa (although realistically, both ways should
> work)?
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> > "coucou" > wrote in message
> ...
> > > Thanks for yr Help Jonathan,
> > > In fact, I found many msmsgs which I delete, No 1 msnmsgr.
> > > I close and reopen MSN Messenger with firewall enabled No success and
No
> > > msmsgs entries either.
> > > I test with firewall disabled Video/voice OK.
> > >
> > > I stop and restart PC, reopen MSN Messenger with firewall enabled, No
> > > success.
> > > I close MSN an opened Windows Messenger 4.7 No success but they are 2
> msmsgs
> > > entries (TCP/UDP) checked.
> > > When I closed Windows Messenger No more msmsgs entries (TCP/UDP)
checked
> > > (they are deleted automatically).
> > >
> > > Thanks for other/different issue
> > > Emile
> > >
> > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > a écrit dans le
> message
> > > de ...
> > > > Greetings,
> > > >
> > > > Windows/MSN Messenger and the Internet Connection Firewall (ICF)
> support
> > > Universal Plug and
> > > > Play (UPnP), which allows Messenger to open and forward the ports
> > > necessary in the ICF for
> > > > voice/video conversations. However, it doesn't appear to be
working.
> > > >
> > > > Firstly, check to make sure that ports are actually being opened.
To
> do
> > > so, click Start, All
> > > > Programs, Accessories, Communications, Network Connections. Right
> click
> > > your connection,
> > > > then click Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and then click the
> Settings
> > > button. Check to
> > > > see if there are 'msmsgs' or 'msnmsgr' entries. If so, click each
> > > 'msmsgs' or 'msnmsgr'
> > > > entry and then choose 'Delete' to each one. Then close Messenger
> > > (right-click the Messenger
> > > > icon, choose Exit), then restart Messenger and try a voice/video
> > > conversation again. If it
> > > > still doesn't work, go back into the Settings again (see above), and
> see
> > > if 'msmsgs' or
> > > > 'msnmsgr' entries reappeared. If they do, then that part is working
> > > properly. If they
> > > > didn't, then there's a different issue.
> > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > >
> > > > "coucou" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > > I'm using a small local network (2 PCs desk and laptop
> > > > > direct connected without router) with Files and Internet
> > > > > sharing.
> > > > > My desk PC is the main computer, it's direct connected to
> > > > > Internet behind WinXP Firewall exclusively (NO other
> > > > > firewall installed).
> > > > >
> > > > > PROBLEM
> > > > > After installing QuickCam from Logitech I start using it
> > > > > with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
> > > > > When the WinXP FIREWALL is DISABLED everything WORKS FINE.
> > > > > When the WinXP FIREWALL is ENAABLED, I can share files
> > > > > and instant messages BUT NO VIDEO/AUDIO CONVERSATION
> > > > > starting.
> > > > > I UNinstalled and re-installed MSN Messenger 5.0 without
> > > > > success to my Firewall problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > What do I need configuring for WinXP Firewall enabled and
> > > > > working with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Emile,

Remote Desktop you mean? This really won't have any effect on Messenger (although at this
point, no harm in trying).

What I mean is, you are contacting (by contact I mean Messenger contacts/users), the same
person for a voice conversation each time, so that we know there isn't a problem on their end
(if you were to contact different people).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"coucou" > wrote in message ...
> Hi Jonathan
> Someone told me to check the first firwall option desk remote. What the
> consequence of that? That really couls solving my problem???
> Waiting for further issue
> Thanks
> Emile
>
> "coucou" > a écrit dans le message de
> ...
> > Hi Jonathan
> > I uninstalled and re-re-reinstalled MSN, this time I found 2 msnmsgr
> > (TCP/UDP) cheked and does not disappear even i disable the firewall.
> > What do you mean about "using the same contact to connect when you turn
> the
> > firewall off" What contact??
> > We try initiating the conversation in both ways, NO CHANCE to get
> > video/voice.
> >
> > I'M BREAKING DOOOOOWN!!!
> > What goes wrong???
> > Emile
> >
> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > a écrit dans le
> message
> > de ...
> > > Hi Emile,
> > >
> > > Well it does appear to be opening/closing the ports properly then.
> Note:
> > MSN Messenger
> > > doesn't make the two ports when it opens and Windows Messenger does --
> > exactly what is
> > > occurring.
> > >
> > > So, the firewall is working properly, I assume you're using the same
> > contact to connect to
> > > when you turn the firewall off? Have you tried having your friend
> > initiate the conversation
> > > instead of you, or vice versa (although realistically, both ways should
> > work)?
> > > ____________________________________________
> > > Jonathan Kay
> > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > >
> > > "coucou" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > > Thanks for yr Help Jonathan,
> > > > In fact, I found many msmsgs which I delete, No 1 msnmsgr.
> > > > I close and reopen MSN Messenger with firewall enabled No success and
> No
> > > > msmsgs entries either.
> > > > I test with firewall disabled Video/voice OK.
> > > >
> > > > I stop and restart PC, reopen MSN Messenger with firewall enabled, No
> > > > success.
> > > > I close MSN an opened Windows Messenger 4.7 No success but they are 2
> > msmsgs
> > > > entries (TCP/UDP) checked.
> > > > When I closed Windows Messenger No more msmsgs entries (TCP/UDP)
> checked
> > > > (they are deleted automatically).
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for other/different issue
> > > > Emile
> > > >
> > > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > a écrit dans le
> > message
> > > > de ...
> > > > > Greetings,
> > > > >
> > > > > Windows/MSN Messenger and the Internet Connection Firewall (ICF)
> > support
> > > > Universal Plug and
> > > > > Play (UPnP), which allows Messenger to open and forward the ports
> > > > necessary in the ICF for
> > > > > voice/video conversations. However, it doesn't appear to be
> working.
> > > > >
> > > > > Firstly, check to make sure that ports are actually being opened.
> To
> > do
> > > > so, click Start, All
> > > > > Programs, Accessories, Communications, Network Connections. Right
> > click
> > > > your connection,
> > > > > then click Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and then click the
> > Settings
> > > > button. Check to
> > > > > see if there are 'msmsgs' or 'msnmsgr' entries. If so, click each
> > > > 'msmsgs' or 'msnmsgr'
> > > > > entry and then choose 'Delete' to each one. Then close Messenger
> > > > (right-click the Messenger
> > > > > icon, choose Exit), then restart Messenger and try a voice/video
> > > > conversation again. If it
> > > > > still doesn't work, go back into the Settings again (see above), and
> > see
> > > > if 'msmsgs' or
> > > > > 'msnmsgr' entries reappeared. If they do, then that part is working
> > > > properly. If they
> > > > > didn't, then there's a different issue.
> > > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > > >
> > > > > "coucou" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > > I'm using a small local network (2 PCs desk and laptop
> > > > > > direct connected without router) with Files and Internet
> > > > > > sharing.
> > > > > > My desk PC is the main computer, it's direct connected to
> > > > > > Internet behind WinXP Firewall exclusively (NO other
> > > > > > firewall installed).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PROBLEM
> > > > > > After installing QuickCam from Logitech I start using it
> > > > > > with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
> > > > > > When the WinXP FIREWALL is DISABLED everything WORKS FINE.
> > > > > > When the WinXP FIREWALL is ENAABLED, I can share files
> > > > > > and instant messages BUT NO VIDEO/AUDIO CONVERSATION
> > > > > > starting.
> > > > > > I UNinstalled and re-installed MSN Messenger 5.0 without
> > > > > > success to my Firewall problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What do I need configuring for WinXP Firewall enabled and
> > > > > > working with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[coucou]

Thanks Jonathan,
This what I did a same contact in both way with firewall enabled and
disabled.
What about person on another newsgroup advised me installing the Beta MSN6.
He told me having a same problem as I, and everythink solved by this beta 6
rev.
Do I trust this this MSN beta 6 rev??? Because I heard its blocking contacts
with earlier revision and other problems.

Again, Do NOT hesitate advising me solving that problem.
Emile

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > a écrit dans le message
de ...
> Hi Emile,
>
> Remote Desktop you mean? This really won't have any effect on Messenger
(although at this
> point, no harm in trying).
>
> What I mean is, you are contacting (by contact I mean Messenger
contacts/users), the same
> person for a voice conversation each time, so that we know there isn't a
problem on their end
> (if you were to contact different people).
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Windows MVP, Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
> "coucou" > wrote in message
...
> > Hi Jonathan
> > Someone told me to check the first firwall option desk remote. What the
> > consequence of that? That really couls solving my problem???
> > Waiting for further issue
> > Thanks
> > Emile
> >
> > "coucou" > a écrit dans le message de
> > ...
> > > Hi Jonathan
> > > I uninstalled and re-re-reinstalled MSN, this time I found 2 msnmsgr
> > > (TCP/UDP) cheked and does not disappear even i disable the firewall.
> > > What do you mean about "using the same contact to connect when you
turn
> > the
> > > firewall off" What contact??
> > > We try initiating the conversation in both ways, NO CHANCE to get
> > > video/voice.
> > >
> > > I'M BREAKING DOOOOOWN!!!
> > > What goes wrong???
> > > Emile
> > >
> > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > a écrit dans le
> > message
> > > de ...
> > > > Hi Emile,
> > > >
> > > > Well it does appear to be opening/closing the ports properly then.
> > Note:
> > > MSN Messenger
> > > > doesn't make the two ports when it opens and Windows Messenger
does --
> > > exactly what is
> > > > occurring.
> > > >
> > > > So, the firewall is working properly, I assume you're using the same
> > > contact to connect to
> > > > when you turn the firewall off? Have you tried having your friend
> > > initiate the conversation
> > > > instead of you, or vice versa (although realistically, both ways
should
> > > work)?
> > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > >
> > > > "coucou" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > > Thanks for yr Help Jonathan,
> > > > > In fact, I found many msmsgs which I delete, No 1 msnmsgr.
> > > > > I close and reopen MSN Messenger with firewall enabled No success
and
> > No
> > > > > msmsgs entries either.
> > > > > I test with firewall disabled Video/voice OK.
> > > > >
> > > > > I stop and restart PC, reopen MSN Messenger with firewall enabled,
No
> > > > > success.
> > > > > I close MSN an opened Windows Messenger 4.7 No success but they
are 2
> > > msmsgs
> > > > > entries (TCP/UDP) checked.
> > > > > When I closed Windows Messenger No more msmsgs entries (TCP/UDP)
> > checked
> > > > > (they are deleted automatically).
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for other/different issue
> > > > > Emile
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > a écrit dans
le
> > > message
> > > > > de ...
> > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Windows/MSN Messenger and the Internet Connection Firewall (ICF)
> > > support
> > > > > Universal Plug and
> > > > > > Play (UPnP), which allows Messenger to open and forward the
ports
> > > > > necessary in the ICF for
> > > > > > voice/video conversations. However, it doesn't appear to be
> > working.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Firstly, check to make sure that ports are actually being
opened.
> > To
> > > do
> > > > > so, click Start, All
> > > > > > Programs, Accessories, Communications, Network Connections.
Right
> > > click
> > > > > your connection,
> > > > > > then click Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and then click
the
> > > Settings
> > > > > button. Check to
> > > > > > see if there are 'msmsgs' or 'msnmsgr' entries. If so, click
each
> > > > > 'msmsgs' or 'msnmsgr'
> > > > > > entry and then choose 'Delete' to each one. Then close Messenger
> > > > > (right-click the Messenger
> > > > > > icon, choose Exit), then restart Messenger and try a voice/video
> > > > > conversation again. If it
> > > > > > still doesn't work, go back into the Settings again (see above),
and
> > > see
> > > > > if 'msmsgs' or
> > > > > > 'msnmsgr' entries reappeared. If they do, then that part is
working
> > > > > properly. If they
> > > > > > didn't, then there's a different issue.
> > > > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "coucou" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > > I'm using a small local network (2 PCs desk and laptop
> > > > > > > direct connected without router) with Files and Internet
> > > > > > > sharing.
> > > > > > > My desk PC is the main computer, it's direct connected to
> > > > > > > Internet behind WinXP Firewall exclusively (NO other
> > > > > > > firewall installed).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PROBLEM
> > > > > > > After installing QuickCam from Logitech I start using it
> > > > > > > with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
> > > > > > > When the WinXP FIREWALL is DISABLED everything WORKS FINE.
> > > > > > > When the WinXP FIREWALL is ENAABLED, I can share files
> > > > > > > and instant messages BUT NO VIDEO/AUDIO CONVERSATION
> > > > > > > starting.
> > > > > > > I UNinstalled and re-installed MSN Messenger 5.0 without
> > > > > > > success to my Firewall problem.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What do I need configuring for WinXP Firewall enabled and
> > > > > > > working with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best Regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Emile,

Well, the MSN Messenger 6 beta is a leaked version and is unsupported, but others have
reported no problems (although there are some known bugs).

I'm honestly not sure what the problem is, nor can I really think of anything that would be
causing the problem.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"coucou" > wrote in message ...
> Thanks Jonathan,
> This what I did a same contact in both way with firewall enabled and
> disabled.
> What about person on another newsgroup advised me installing the Beta MSN6.
> He told me having a same problem as I, and everythink solved by this beta 6
> rev.
> Do I trust this this MSN beta 6 rev??? Because I heard its blocking contacts
> with earlier revision and other problems.
>
> Again, Do NOT hesitate advising me solving that problem.
> Emile
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > a écrit dans le message
> de ...
> > Hi Emile,
> >
> > Remote Desktop you mean? This really won't have any effect on Messenger
> (although at this
> > point, no harm in trying).
> >
> > What I mean is, you are contacting (by contact I mean Messenger
> contacts/users), the same
> > person for a voice conversation each time, so that we know there isn't a
> problem on their end
> > (if you were to contact different people).
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> > "coucou" > wrote in message
> ...
> > > Hi Jonathan
> > > Someone told me to check the first firwall option desk remote. What the
> > > consequence of that? That really couls solving my problem???
> > > Waiting for further issue
> > > Thanks
> > > Emile
> > >
> > > "coucou" > a écrit dans le message de
> > > ...
> > > > Hi Jonathan
> > > > I uninstalled and re-re-reinstalled MSN, this time I found 2 msnmsgr
> > > > (TCP/UDP) cheked and does not disappear even i disable the firewall.
> > > > What do you mean about "using the same contact to connect when you
> turn
> > > the
> > > > firewall off" What contact??
> > > > We try initiating the conversation in both ways, NO CHANCE to get
> > > > video/voice.
> > > >
> > > > I'M BREAKING DOOOOOWN!!!
> > > > What goes wrong???
> > > > Emile
> > > >
> > > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > a écrit dans le
> > > message
> > > > de ...
> > > > > Hi Emile,
> > > > >
> > > > > Well it does appear to be opening/closing the ports properly then.
> > > Note:
> > > > MSN Messenger
> > > > > doesn't make the two ports when it opens and Windows Messenger
> does --
> > > > exactly what is
> > > > > occurring.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, the firewall is working properly, I assume you're using the same
> > > > contact to connect to
> > > > > when you turn the firewall off? Have you tried having your friend
> > > > initiate the conversation
> > > > > instead of you, or vice versa (although realistically, both ways
> should
> > > > work)?
> > > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > > >
> > > > > "coucou" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > > Thanks for yr Help Jonathan,
> > > > > > In fact, I found many msmsgs which I delete, No 1 msnmsgr.
> > > > > > I close and reopen MSN Messenger with firewall enabled No success
> and
> > > No
> > > > > > msmsgs entries either.
> > > > > > I test with firewall disabled Video/voice OK.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I stop and restart PC, reopen MSN Messenger with firewall enabled,
> No
> > > > > > success.
> > > > > > I close MSN an opened Windows Messenger 4.7 No success but they
> are 2
> > > > msmsgs
> > > > > > entries (TCP/UDP) checked.
> > > > > > When I closed Windows Messenger No more msmsgs entries (TCP/UDP)
> > > checked
> > > > > > (they are deleted automatically).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for other/different issue
> > > > > > Emile
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > a écrit dans
> le
> > > > message
> > > > > > de ...
> > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Windows/MSN Messenger and the Internet Connection Firewall (ICF)
> > > > support
> > > > > > Universal Plug and
> > > > > > > Play (UPnP), which allows Messenger to open and forward the
> ports
> > > > > > necessary in the ICF for
> > > > > > > voice/video conversations. However, it doesn't appear to be
> > > working.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Firstly, check to make sure that ports are actually being
> opened.
> > > To
> > > > do
> > > > > > so, click Start, All
> > > > > > > Programs, Accessories, Communications, Network Connections.
> Right
> > > > click
> > > > > > your connection,
> > > > > > > then click Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and then click
> the
> > > > Settings
> > > > > > button. Check to
> > > > > > > see if there are 'msmsgs' or 'msnmsgr' entries. If so, click
> each
> > > > > > 'msmsgs' or 'msnmsgr'
> > > > > > > entry and then choose 'Delete' to each one. Then close Messenger
> > > > > > (right-click the Messenger
> > > > > > > icon, choose Exit), then restart Messenger and try a voice/video
> > > > > > conversation again. If it
> > > > > > > still doesn't work, go back into the Settings again (see above),
> and
> > > > see
> > > > > > if 'msmsgs' or
> > > > > > > 'msnmsgr' entries reappeared. If they do, then that part is
> working
> > > > > > properly. If they
> > > > > > > didn't, then there's a different issue.
> > > > > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > > > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "coucou" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > I'm using a small local network (2 PCs desk and laptop
> > > > > > > > direct connected without router) with Files and Internet
> > > > > > > > sharing.
> > > > > > > > My desk PC is the main computer, it's direct connected to
> > > > > > > > Internet behind WinXP Firewall exclusively (NO other
> > > > > > > > firewall installed).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > PROBLEM
> > > > > > > > After installing QuickCam from Logitech I start using it
> > > > > > > > with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
> > > > > > > > When the WinXP FIREWALL is DISABLED everything WORKS FINE.
> > > > > > > > When the WinXP FIREWALL is ENAABLED, I can share files
> > > > > > > > and instant messages BUT NO VIDEO/AUDIO CONVERSATION
> > > > > > > > starting.
> > > > > > > > I UNinstalled and re-installed MSN Messenger 5.0 without
> > > > > > > > success to my Firewall problem.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What do I need configuring for WinXP Firewall enabled and
> > > > > > > > working with Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5.0.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best Regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>