Annoying messages!

[laceycat]

I'd like to know how come when I've set Messenger not to
automatically start up when I go into Outlook Express and
when the settings within Messenger itself have been set
not to autostart but wait till I want to logon to
messenger, how come all these offensive spammers know I'm
online and message me asking to come to their website?
This is highly irritating. All other users have been
blocked from within Messenger and still this happens. Is
the only alternative to simply create a new account and
start from scratch? Also where did all these spammers
get my email address from (its hotmail).

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Greetings,

To stop Messenger from loading with Outlook Express, first close Outlook Express, then simply
download and run this .reg file:
http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_oe.reg
You can then restart Outlook Express.

Most likely they didn't get your e-mail address, they use dictionaries which "guess" at
Hotmail e-mail addresses -- since they're so common it's easy for them to get lucky. As
well, if you've ever tried to opt-out of one of them, most likely you were put on an "active"
list.

With All other users blocked, you will be able to block them, but they're using a new "group"
method which can get around this. MSN Messenger 5's "All users" (same as All other users)
option defeats the group method, so you may want to consider using MSN Messenger instead:
http://messenger.msn.com/download/download.asp?client=1.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com


"laceycat" > wrote in message
...
> I'd like to know how come when I've set Messenger not to
> automatically start up when I go into Outlook Express and
> when the settings within Messenger itself have been set
> not to autostart but wait till I want to logon to
> messenger, how come all these offensive spammers know I'm
> online and message me asking to come to their website?
> This is highly irritating. All other users have been
> blocked from within Messenger and still this happens. Is
> the only alternative to simply create a new account and
> start from scratch? Also where did all these spammers
> get my email address from (its hotmail).
>
>

[laceycat]

Thanks for your help. I will download v5 and see how it
goes.

>-----Original Message-----
>Greetings,
>
>To stop Messenger from loading with Outlook Express,
first close Outlook Express, then simply
>download and run this .reg file:
>http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_
oe.reg
>You can then restart Outlook Express.
>
>Most likely they didn't get your e-mail address, they
use dictionaries which "guess" at
>Hotmail e-mail addresses -- since they're so common it's
easy for them to get lucky. As
>well, if you've ever tried to opt-out of one of them,
most likely you were put on an "active"
>list.
>
>With All other users blocked, you will be able to block
them, but they're using a new "group"
>method which can get around this. MSN Messenger
5's "All users" (same as All other users)
>option defeats the group method, so you may want to
consider using MSN Messenger instead:
>http://messenger.msn.com/download/download.asp?client=1.
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
>"laceycat" > wrote in message
...
>> I'd like to know how come when I've set Messenger not
to
>> automatically start up when I go into Outlook Express
and
>> when the settings within Messenger itself have been set
>> not to autostart but wait till I want to logon to
>> messenger, how come all these offensive spammers know
I'm
>> online and message me asking to come to their website?
>> This is highly irritating. All other users have been
>> blocked from within Messenger and still this happens.
Is
>> the only alternative to simply create a new account and
>> start from scratch? Also where did all these spammers
>> get my email address from (its hotmail).
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi,

You're very welcome =).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"laceycat" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks for your help. I will download v5 and see how it
> goes.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Greetings,
> >
> >To stop Messenger from loading with Outlook Express,
> first close Outlook Express, then simply
> >download and run this .reg file:
> >http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_
> oe.reg
> >You can then restart Outlook Express.
> >
> >Most likely they didn't get your e-mail address, they
> use dictionaries which "guess" at
> >Hotmail e-mail addresses -- since they're so common it's
> easy for them to get lucky. As
> >well, if you've ever tried to opt-out of one of them,
> most likely you were put on an "active"
> >list.
> >
> >With All other users blocked, you will be able to block
> them, but they're using a new "group"
> >method which can get around this. MSN Messenger
> 5's "All users" (same as All other users)
> >option defeats the group method, so you may want to
> consider using MSN Messenger instead:
> >http://messenger.msn.com/download/download.asp?client=1.
> >____________________________________________
> >Jonathan Kay
> >Windows MVP, Messenger
> >Associate Expert
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >
> >"laceycat" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> I'd like to know how come when I've set Messenger not
> to
> >> automatically start up when I go into Outlook Express
> and
> >> when the settings within Messenger itself have been set
> >> not to autostart but wait till I want to logon to
> >> messenger, how come all these offensive spammers know
> I'm
> >> online and message me asking to come to their website?
> >> This is highly irritating. All other users have been
> >> blocked from within Messenger and still this happens.
> Is
> >> the only alternative to simply create a new account and
> >> start from scratch? Also where did all these spammers
> >> get my email address from (its hotmail).
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[sjhaget]

So there is no way for us to stop unwanted incoming IMs from unauthorized
users via Windows Messenger 4.x? I refuse to install MSN Messenger.


"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings,
>
> To stop Messenger from loading with Outlook Express, first close Outlook
Express, then simply
> download and run this .reg file:
> http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_oe.reg
> You can then restart Outlook Express.
>
> Most likely they didn't get your e-mail address, they use dictionaries
which "guess" at
> Hotmail e-mail addresses -- since they're so common it's easy for them to
get lucky. As
> well, if you've ever tried to opt-out of one of them, most likely you were
put on an "active"
> list.
>
> With All other users blocked, you will be able to block them, but they're
using a new "group"
> method which can get around this. MSN Messenger 5's "All users" (same as
All other users)
> option defeats the group method, so you may want to consider using MSN
Messenger instead:
> http://messenger.msn.com/download/download.asp?client=1.
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Windows MVP, Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
> "laceycat" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'd like to know how come when I've set Messenger not to
> > automatically start up when I go into Outlook Express and
> > when the settings within Messenger itself have been set
> > not to autostart but wait till I want to logon to
> > messenger, how come all these offensive spammers know I'm
> > online and message me asking to come to their website?
> > This is highly irritating. All other users have been
> > blocked from within Messenger and still this happens. Is
> > the only alternative to simply create a new account and
> > start from scratch? Also where did all these spammers
> > get my email address from (its hotmail).
> >
> >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi,

Yes there is, just simply open up the main Messenger window, click Tools, then Options, then
the Privacy tab, click 'All other users' and then click the Block >> button. The only thing
this will *NOT* block are group conversation spam, which really isn't all that usual (I
haven't seen any of it for weeks).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com


"sjhaget" > wrote in message ...
> So there is no way for us to stop unwanted incoming IMs from unauthorized
> users via Windows Messenger 4.x? I refuse to install MSN Messenger.
>
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Greetings,
> >
> > To stop Messenger from loading with Outlook Express, first close Outlook
> Express, then simply
> > download and run this .reg file:
> > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_oe.reg
> > You can then restart Outlook Express.
> >
> > Most likely they didn't get your e-mail address, they use dictionaries
> which "guess" at
> > Hotmail e-mail addresses -- since they're so common it's easy for them to
> get lucky. As
> > well, if you've ever tried to opt-out of one of them, most likely you were
> put on an "active"
> > list.
> >
> > With All other users blocked, you will be able to block them, but they're
> using a new "group"
> > method which can get around this. MSN Messenger 5's "All users" (same as
> All other users)
> > option defeats the group method, so you may want to consider using MSN
> Messenger instead:
> > http://messenger.msn.com/download/download.asp?client=1.
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >
> > "laceycat" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I'd like to know how come when I've set Messenger not to
> > > automatically start up when I go into Outlook Express and
> > > when the settings within Messenger itself have been set
> > > not to autostart but wait till I want to logon to
> > > messenger, how come all these offensive spammers know I'm
> > > online and message me asking to come to their website?
> > > This is highly irritating. All other users have been
> > > blocked from within Messenger and still this happens. Is
> > > the only alternative to simply create a new account and
> > > start from scratch? Also where did all these spammers
> > > get my email address from (its hotmail).
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[sjhaget]

What is "group conversation spam"?


"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
>
> Yes there is, just simply open up the main Messenger window, click Tools,
then Options, then
> the Privacy tab, click 'All other users' and then click the Block >>
button. The only thing
> this will *NOT* block are group conversation spam, which really isn't all
that usual (I
> haven't seen any of it for weeks).
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Windows MVP, Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
> "sjhaget" > wrote in message
...
> > So there is no way for us to stop unwanted incoming IMs from
unauthorized
> > users via Windows Messenger 4.x? I refuse to install MSN Messenger.
> >
> >
> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > To stop Messenger from loading with Outlook Express, first close
Outlook
> > Express, then simply
> > > download and run this .reg file:
> > > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_oe.reg
> > > You can then restart Outlook Express.
> > >
> > > Most likely they didn't get your e-mail address, they use dictionaries
> > which "guess" at
> > > Hotmail e-mail addresses -- since they're so common it's easy for them
to
> > get lucky. As
> > > well, if you've ever tried to opt-out of one of them, most likely you
were
> > put on an "active"
> > > list.
> > >
> > > With All other users blocked, you will be able to block them, but
they're
> > using a new "group"
> > > method which can get around this. MSN Messenger 5's "All users" (same
as
> > All other users)
> > > option defeats the group method, so you may want to consider using MSN
> > Messenger instead:
> > > http://messenger.msn.com/download/download.asp?client=1.
> > > ____________________________________________
> > > Jonathan Kay
> > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > >
> > >
> > > "laceycat" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I'd like to know how come when I've set Messenger not to
> > > > automatically start up when I go into Outlook Express and
> > > > when the settings within Messenger itself have been set
> > > > not to autostart but wait till I want to logon to
> > > > messenger, how come all these offensive spammers know I'm
> > > > online and message me asking to come to their website?
> > > > This is highly irritating. All other users have been
> > > > blocked from within Messenger and still this happens. Is
> > > > the only alternative to simply create a new account and
> > > > start from scratch? Also where did all these spammers
> > > > get my email address from (its hotmail).
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi,

Group conversation spam is when the "spammer" spams multiple people at once (for instance, if
you were to open up a conversation window, click the Invite a person to this conversation and
invite several people). In Windows Messenger, this can get around the "All other users"
block, but in MSN Messenger 5 it does not. Like I said, this method isn't that well known or
used.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"sjhaget" > wrote in message ...
> What is "group conversation spam"?
>
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi,
> >
> > Yes there is, just simply open up the main Messenger window, click Tools,
> then Options, then
> > the Privacy tab, click 'All other users' and then click the Block >>
> button. The only thing
> > this will *NOT* block are group conversation spam, which really isn't all
> that usual (I
> > haven't seen any of it for weeks).
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >
> > "sjhaget" > wrote in message
> ...
> > > So there is no way for us to stop unwanted incoming IMs from
> unauthorized
> > > users via Windows Messenger 4.x? I refuse to install MSN Messenger.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Greetings,
> > > >
> > > > To stop Messenger from loading with Outlook Express, first close
> Outlook
> > > Express, then simply
> > > > download and run this .reg file:
> > > > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/downloads/stopmessenger_oe.reg
> > > > You can then restart Outlook Express.
> > > >
> > > > Most likely they didn't get your e-mail address, they use dictionaries
> > > which "guess" at
> > > > Hotmail e-mail addresses -- since they're so common it's easy for them
> to
> > > get lucky. As
> > > > well, if you've ever tried to opt-out of one of them, most likely you
> were
> > > put on an "active"
> > > > list.
> > > >
> > > > With All other users blocked, you will be able to block them, but
> they're
> > > using a new "group"
> > > > method which can get around this. MSN Messenger 5's "All users" (same
> as
> > > All other users)
> > > > option defeats the group method, so you may want to consider using MSN
> > > Messenger instead:
> > > > http://messenger.msn.com/download/download.asp?client=1.
> > > > ____________________________________________
> > > > Jonathan Kay
> > > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "laceycat" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > I'd like to know how come when I've set Messenger not to
> > > > > automatically start up when I go into Outlook Express and
> > > > > when the settings within Messenger itself have been set
> > > > > not to autostart but wait till I want to logon to
> > > > > messenger, how come all these offensive spammers know I'm
> > > > > online and message me asking to come to their website?
> > > > > This is highly irritating. All other users have been
> > > > > blocked from within Messenger and still this happens. Is
> > > > > the only alternative to simply create a new account and
> > > > > start from scratch? Also where did all these spammers
> > > > > get my email address from (its hotmail).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>