no outgoing Audio and Video

[cumi]

Hello,=20
i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset 857,
i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not send a=20
picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can=20
somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.

Thanks for help

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Greetings,

I don't believe the problem is on your side, most likely since your contact isn't receiving
you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell them to do the following:
Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't turned on, click Start, then
click the Control Panel. If you're in category view click Network and Internet connections
then click Network Connections. Right click your network/internet connection, then click
Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that the Internet Connection Firewall is
unchecked.
If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the current port forwardings -- to do so,
click Start, All Programs, Accessories, Communications, Network Connections. Right-click the
"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet Gateway heading) and choose Properties.
Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs' or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.

Finally, both of you should run through the Audio/Video Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning Wizard).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com




"cumi" > wrote in message ...
Hello,
i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset 857,
i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not send a
picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
somebody tell me please why it dosen´t work.

Thanks for help

[richard]

Jonathan,
Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed this=20
problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem=20
with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to=20
be addressed.
>-----Original Message-----
>Greetings,
>
>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most likely=20
since your contact isn't receiving
>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell them=20
to do the following:
>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't=20
turned on, click Start, then
>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view=20
click Network and Internet connections
>then click Network Connections. Right click your=20
network/internet connection, then click
>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that the=20
Internet Connection Firewall is
>unchecked.
>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the=20
current port forwardings -- to do so,
>click Start, All Programs, Accessories, Communications,=20
Network Connections. Right-click the
>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet Gateway=20
heading) and choose Properties.
>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'=20
or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the=20
Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>
>Finally, both of you should run through the Audio/Video=20
Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning Wizard).
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
>
>
>"cumi" > wrote in message=20
...
>Hello,
>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset 857,
>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not send=20
a
>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>
>Thanks for help
>
>
>.
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Richard,

The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in another thread is not the only cause of
this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that fixed is to complain to Intel --
unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"richard" > wrote in message ...
Jonathan,
Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed this
problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem
with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to
be addressed.
>-----Original Message-----
>Greetings,
>
>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most likely
since your contact isn't receiving
>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell them
to do the following:
>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
turned on, click Start, then
>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
click Network and Internet connections
>then click Network Connections. Right click your
network/internet connection, then click
>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that the
Internet Connection Firewall is
>unchecked.
>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
current port forwardings -- to do so,
>click Start, All Programs, Accessories, Communications,
Network Connections. Right-click the
>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet Gateway
heading) and choose Properties.
>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>
>Finally, both of you should run through the Audio/Video
Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning Wizard).
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
>
>
>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>Hello,
>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset 857,
>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not send
a
>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>somebody tell me please why it dosen´t work.
>
>Thanks for help
>
>
>.
>

[richard]

WEll the person that discovered the solution to the=20
problem-look back through the threads-said that he did=20
get his driver from windows update. And while it is not=20
the only cause of the problem I must say that every=20
person I have asked who have had the same symptoms-being=20
able to receive but not send audio and video-each one has=20
had an intel nic card. Most of the people complaining=20
aren;t even using firewalls or routers or are, like=20
myself, using a router but only having the problem on the=20
machine with the intel nic card.
>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Richard,
>
>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in=20
another thread is not the only cause of
>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that=20
fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>"richard" > wrote in message=20
...
>Jonathan,
>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed this
>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem
>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to
>be addressed.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Greetings,
>>
>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most likely
>since your contact isn't receiving
>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell them
>to do the following:
>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
>turned on, click Start, then
>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>click Network and Internet connections
>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>network/internet connection, then click
>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that the
>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>unchecked.
>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories, Communications,
>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet Gateway
>heading) and choose Properties.
>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>
>>Finally, both of you should run through the Audio/Video
>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning Wizard).
>>____________________________________________
>>Jonathan Kay
>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>Associate Expert
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>Hello,
>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset=20
857,
>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not send
>a
>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>
>>Thanks for help
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>

[richard]

And I agree that it is not the only problem but so far=20
anyway, for every person complaining about these symptoms=20
who has an intel nic card rolling back the driver has=20
fixed it. =20
>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Richard,
>
>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in=20
another thread is not the only cause of
>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that=20
fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>"richard" > wrote in message=20
...
>Jonathan,
>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed this
>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem
>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to
>be addressed.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Greetings,
>>
>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most likely
>since your contact isn't receiving
>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell them
>to do the following:
>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
>turned on, click Start, then
>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>click Network and Internet connections
>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>network/internet connection, then click
>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that the
>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>unchecked.
>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories, Communications,
>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet Gateway
>heading) and choose Properties.
>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>
>>Finally, both of you should run through the Audio/Video
>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning Wizard).
>>____________________________________________
>>Jonathan Kay
>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>Associate Expert
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>Hello,
>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset=20
857,
>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not send
>a
>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>
>>Thanks for help
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>

[richard]

And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they=20
are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back the=20
driver the program them works. That is the definition of=20
BAD.
>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Richard,
>
>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in=20
another thread is not the only cause of
>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that=20
fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>"richard" > wrote in message=20
...
>Jonathan,
>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed this
>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem
>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to
>be addressed.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Greetings,
>>
>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most likely
>since your contact isn't receiving
>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell them
>to do the following:
>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
>turned on, click Start, then
>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>click Network and Internet connections
>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>network/internet connection, then click
>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that the
>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>unchecked.
>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories, Communications,
>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet Gateway
>heading) and choose Properties.
>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>
>>Finally, both of you should run through the Audio/Video
>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning Wizard).
>>____________________________________________
>>Jonathan Kay
>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>Associate Expert
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>Hello,
>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset=20
857,
>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not send
>a
>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>
>>Thanks for help
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>

[John Holmes [MSFT]]

If you can tell me the versions of the driver in question, as well as the
model of the card, I can have one of ours testers try to reproduce this. If
it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to fix it.

--
John Holmes
Developer, MSN Messenger

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This alias is for
newsgroup purposes only.


"richard" > wrote in message
...
And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they
are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back the
driver the program them works. That is the definition of
BAD.
>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Richard,
>
>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in
another thread is not the only cause of
>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that
fixed is to complain to Intel --
>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>Jonathan,
>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed this
>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem
>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to
>be addressed.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Greetings,
>>
>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most likely
>since your contact isn't receiving
>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell them
>to do the following:
>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
>turned on, click Start, then
>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>click Network and Internet connections
>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>network/internet connection, then click
>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that the
>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>unchecked.
>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories, Communications,
>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet Gateway
>heading) and choose Properties.
>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>
>>Finally, both of you should run through the Audio/Video
>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning Wizard).
>>____________________________________________
>>Jonathan Kay
>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>Associate Expert
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>Hello,
>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset
857,
>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not send
>a
>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>somebody tell me please why it dosen´t work.
>>
>>Thanks for help
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>

[richard]

My motherboard is a D865 perl with an Intel Pro/1000 CT=20
on the board. It is using the latest available drivers=20
downloaded from intel's support website. I cannot roll=20
the driver back to a previous version cause windows says=20
no previous version exists for me. The machine is brand=20
new and I don't have a previous driver to roll it back=20
to. If you go back through these threads the last couple=20
days other people named their boards and nic cards as=20
well (all intel and all having the same problem). Those=20
people were able to correct it by rolling back the=20
driver. The problem we are all having is that we can=20
connect but the other side receives no voice or video. =20
In my case I am using a Upnp enabled router and two non-
intel boards on my network can communicate with voice and=20
video with each other behind the router and to anyone=20
else outside the router so I know it has nothing to do=20
with my firewall/router as it is working properly for the=20
other two machines. =20

Thanks
>-----Original Message-----
>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in=20
question, as well as the
>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers try to=20
reproduce this. If
>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to fix it.
>
>--=20
>John Holmes
>Developer, MSN Messenger
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and=20
confers no rights.
>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This=20
alias is for
>newsgroup purposes only.
>
>
>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they
>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back the
>driver the program them works. That is the definition of
>BAD.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi Richard,
>>
>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in
>another thread is not the only cause of
>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that
>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>____________________________________________
>>Jonathan Kay
>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>Associate Expert
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>
>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>Jonathan,
>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed this
>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem
>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to
>>be addressed.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Greetings,
>>>
>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most=20
likely
>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell them
>>to do the following:
>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that the
>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>unchecked.
>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories, Communications,
>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet=20
Gateway
>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>
>>>Finally, both of you should run through the Audio/Video
>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning=20
Wizard).
>>>____________________________________________
>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>Associate Expert
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>Hello,
>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset
>857,
>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not=20
send
>>a
>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>
>>>Thanks for help
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>

[richard]

It is intel driver version 7.0.36.0 dated March 11, 2003=20
for intel Pro/100 and Pro/1000 nic cards.
>-----Original Message-----
>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in=20
question, as well as the
>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers try to=20
reproduce this. If
>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to fix it.
>
>--=20
>John Holmes
>Developer, MSN Messenger
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and=20
confers no rights.
>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This=20
alias is for
>newsgroup purposes only.
>
>
>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they
>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back the
>driver the program them works. That is the definition of
>BAD.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi Richard,
>>
>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in
>another thread is not the only cause of
>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that
>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>____________________________________________
>>Jonathan Kay
>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>Associate Expert
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>
>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>Jonathan,
>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed this
>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem
>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to
>>be addressed.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Greetings,
>>>
>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most=20
likely
>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell them
>>to do the following:
>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that the
>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>unchecked.
>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories, Communications,
>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet=20
Gateway
>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>
>>>Finally, both of you should run through the Audio/Video
>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning=20
Wizard).
>>>____________________________________________
>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>Associate Expert
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>Hello,
>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset
>857,
>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not=20
send
>>a
>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>
>>>Thanks for help
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>

[James]

I posted this in an older thread.

I just disabled my onboard Intel NIC and installed a=20
RealTek. I now have audio/video. Intel better fix=20
this! I was unable to roll back the drivers since the=20
original drivers that came with the board didn't work in=20
the first place and updating them to the ones they were=20
on the net didn't fix the problem either. So rolling=20
back the drivers was not an option for me.

But it's working now with this NIC. I'll be watching=20
Intel's web site to see if they update their drivers=20
anytime soon. I better not hold my breath.

My motherboard: D875PBZ (onboard lan Intel Pro/1000 CT)


>-----Original Message-----
>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in=20
question, as well as the
>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers try to=20
reproduce this. If
>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to fix it.
>
>--=20
>John Holmes
>Developer, MSN Messenger
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and=20
confers no rights.
>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This=20
alias is for
>newsgroup purposes only.
>
>
>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they
>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back the
>driver the program them works. That is the definition of
>BAD.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi Richard,
>>
>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in
>another thread is not the only cause of
>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that
>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>____________________________________________
>>Jonathan Kay
>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>Associate Expert
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>
>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>Jonathan,
>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed this
>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem
>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to
>>be addressed.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Greetings,
>>>
>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most=20
likely
>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell them
>>to do the following:
>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that the
>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>unchecked.
>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories, Communications,
>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet=20
Gateway
>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>
>>>Finally, both of you should run through the Audio/Video
>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning=20
Wizard).
>>>____________________________________________
>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>Associate Expert
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>Hello,
>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset
>857,
>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not=20
send
>>a
>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>
>>>Thanks for help
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>

[richard]

Thanks James
>-----Original Message-----
>I posted this in an older thread.
>
>I just disabled my onboard Intel NIC and installed a=20
>RealTek. I now have audio/video. Intel better fix=20
>this! I was unable to roll back the drivers since the=20
>original drivers that came with the board didn't work in=20
>the first place and updating them to the ones they were=20
>on the net didn't fix the problem either. So rolling=20
>back the drivers was not an option for me.
>
>But it's working now with this NIC. I'll be watching=20
>Intel's web site to see if they update their drivers=20
>anytime soon. I better not hold my breath.
>
>My motherboard: D875PBZ (onboard lan Intel Pro/1000 CT)
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
>>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in=20
>question, as well as the
>>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers try=20
to=20
>reproduce this. If
>>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to fix=20
it.
>>
>>--=20
>>John Holmes
>>Developer, MSN Messenger
>>
>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,=20
and=20
>confers no rights.
>>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This=20
>alias is for
>>newsgroup purposes only.
>>
>>
>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they
>>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back the
>>driver the program them works. That is the definition=20
of
>>BAD.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Hi Richard,
>>>
>>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in
>>another thread is not the only cause of
>>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that
>>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>>____________________________________________
>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>Associate Expert
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>
>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>Jonathan,
>>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed=20
this
>>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem
>>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to
>>>be addressed.
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Greetings,
>>>>
>>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most=20
>likely
>>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell=20
them
>>>to do the following:
>>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
>>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that=20
the
>>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>>unchecked.
>>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories,=20
Communications,
>>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet=20
>Gateway
>>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>>
>>>>Finally, both of you should run through the=20
Audio/Video
>>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning=20
>Wizard).
>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>>Hello,
>>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset
>>857,
>>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not=20
>send
>>>a
>>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

[cumi]

Dear Mr. Holmes,=20
i have tried a lot of solution, and i think that it is=20
the nic card, here is the card Intel pro 10/100VE and the=20
driver is 7.06.26.0, if you can fix the problem, could=20
you please contact me or post it in the newsgroup


>-----Original Message-----
>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in=20
question, as well as the
>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers try to=20
reproduce this. If
>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to fix it.
>
>--=20
>John Holmes
>Developer, MSN Messenger
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and=20
confers no rights.
>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This=20
alias is for
>newsgroup purposes only.
>
>
>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they
>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back the
>driver the program them works. That is the definition of
>BAD.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi Richard,
>>
>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in
>another thread is not the only cause of
>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that
>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>____________________________________________
>>Jonathan Kay
>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>Associate Expert
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>
>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>Jonathan,
>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed this
>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem
>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to
>>be addressed.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Greetings,
>>>
>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most=20
likely
>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell them
>>to do the following:
>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that the
>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>unchecked.
>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories, Communications,
>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet=20
Gateway
>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>
>>>Finally, both of you should run through the Audio/Video
>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning=20
Wizard).
>>>____________________________________________
>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>Associate Expert
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>Hello,
>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset
>857,
>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not=20
send
>>a
>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>
>>>Thanks for help
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>

[richard]

I appears that everyone I have found so far having the=20
problem has 845-875 chipsets with intel pro/100 and=20
pro/1000 nic cards built onto the boards. People have=20
replaced the boards and disabled the onboard nic card or=20
rolled back the driver and restored audio and video.
>-----Original Message-----
>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in=20
question, as well as the
>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers try to=20
reproduce this. If
>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to fix it.
>
>--=20
>John Holmes
>Developer, MSN Messenger
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and=20
confers no rights.
>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This=20
alias is for
>newsgroup purposes only.
>
>
>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they
>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back the
>driver the program them works. That is the definition of
>BAD.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi Richard,
>>
>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in
>another thread is not the only cause of
>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that
>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>____________________________________________
>>Jonathan Kay
>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>Associate Expert
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>
>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>Jonathan,
>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed this
>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem
>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to
>>be addressed.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Greetings,
>>>
>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most=20
likely
>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell them
>>to do the following:
>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that the
>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>unchecked.
>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories, Communications,
>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet=20
Gateway
>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>
>>>Finally, both of you should run through the Audio/Video
>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning=20
Wizard).
>>>____________________________________________
>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>Associate Expert
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>Hello,
>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset
>857,
>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not=20
send
>>a
>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>
>>>Thanks for help
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>

[Lucky One]

i hav intel D845pebt2 mouther board, intel pro 10/100VE on board using
driver 6.4.14.0 date 9/25/2002 no probiem here


"richard" > wrote in message
...
I appears that everyone I have found so far having the
problem has 845-875 chipsets with intel pro/100 and
pro/1000 nic cards built onto the boards. People have
replaced the boards and disabled the onboard nic card or
rolled back the driver and restored audio and video.
>-----Original Message-----
>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in
question, as well as the
>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers try to
reproduce this. If
>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to fix it.
>
>--
>John Holmes
>Developer, MSN Messenger
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This
alias is for
>newsgroup purposes only.
>
>
>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they
>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back the
>driver the program them works. That is the definition of
>BAD.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi Richard,
>>
>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in
>another thread is not the only cause of
>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that
>fixed is to complain to Intel --
>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>____________________________________________
>>Jonathan Kay
>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>Associate Expert
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>
>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>Jonathan,
>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed this
>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem
>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to
>>be addressed.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Greetings,
>>>
>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most
likely
>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell them
>>to do the following:
>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that the
>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>unchecked.
>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories, Communications,
>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet
Gateway
>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>
>>>Finally, both of you should run through the Audio/Video
>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning
Wizard).
>>>____________________________________________
>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>Associate Expert
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>Hello,
>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset
>857,
>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not
send
>>a
>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen´t work.
>>>
>>>Thanks for help
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>

[richard]

Cause you are using the old driver.
>-----Original Message-----
>i hav intel D845pebt2 mouther board, intel pro 10/100VE=20
on board using
>driver 6.4.14.0 date 9/25/2002 no probiem here
>
>
>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>I appears that everyone I have found so far having the
>problem has 845-875 chipsets with intel pro/100 and
>pro/1000 nic cards built onto the boards. People have
>replaced the boards and disabled the onboard nic card or
>rolled back the driver and restored audio and video.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in
>question, as well as the
>>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers try to
>reproduce this. If
>>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to fix=20
it.
>>
>>--=20
>>John Holmes
>>Developer, MSN Messenger
>>
>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>confers no rights.
>>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This
>alias is for
>>newsgroup purposes only.
>>
>>
>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they
>>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back the
>>driver the program them works. That is the definition=20
of
>>BAD.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Hi Richard,
>>>
>>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in
>>another thread is not the only cause of
>>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that
>>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>>____________________________________________
>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>Associate Expert
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>
>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>Jonathan,
>>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed=20
this
>>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem
>>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to
>>>be addressed.
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Greetings,
>>>>
>>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most
>likely
>>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell=20
them
>>>to do the following:
>>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
>>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that=20
the
>>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>>unchecked.
>>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories,=20
Communications,
>>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet
>Gateway
>>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>>
>>>>Finally, both of you should run through the=20
Audio/Video
>>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning
>Wizard).
>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>>Hello,
>>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset
>>857,
>>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not
>send
>>>a
>>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>

[Lucky One]

I know that, just giving a reference to one that will work, if they are
unable to roll back so they can request it from intel.

"richard" > wrote in message
...
Cause you are using the old driver.
>-----Original Message-----
>i hav intel D845pebt2 mouther board, intel pro 10/100VE
on board using
>driver 6.4.14.0 date 9/25/2002 no probiem here
>
>
>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>I appears that everyone I have found so far having the
>problem has 845-875 chipsets with intel pro/100 and
>pro/1000 nic cards built onto the boards. People have
>replaced the boards and disabled the onboard nic card or
>rolled back the driver and restored audio and video.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in
>question, as well as the
>>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers try to
>reproduce this. If
>>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to fix
it.
>>
>>--
>>John Holmes
>>Developer, MSN Messenger
>>
>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>confers no rights.
>>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This
>alias is for
>>newsgroup purposes only.
>>
>>
>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they
>>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back the
>>driver the program them works. That is the definition
of
>>BAD.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Hi Richard,
>>>
>>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in
>>another thread is not the only cause of
>>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that
>>fixed is to complain to Intel --
>>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>>____________________________________________
>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>Associate Expert
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>
>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>Jonathan,
>>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed
this
>>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem
>>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to
>>>be addressed.
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Greetings,
>>>>
>>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most
>likely
>>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell
them
>>>to do the following:
>>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
>>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that
the
>>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>>unchecked.
>>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories,
Communications,
>>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet
>Gateway
>>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>>
>>>>Finally, both of you should run through the
Audio/Video
>>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning
>Wizard).
>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>>Hello,
>>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset
>>857,
>>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not
>send
>>>a
>>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen´t work.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>

[richard]

Cool thanks.
>-----Original Message-----
>I know that, just giving a reference to one that will=20
work, if they are
>unable to roll back so they can request it from intel.
>
>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>Cause you are using the old driver.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>i hav intel D845pebt2 mouther board, intel pro 10/100VE
>on board using
>>driver 6.4.14.0 date 9/25/2002 no probiem here
>>
>>
>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>I appears that everyone I have found so far having the
>>problem has 845-875 chipsets with intel pro/100 and
>>pro/1000 nic cards built onto the boards. People have
>>replaced the boards and disabled the onboard nic card or
>>rolled back the driver and restored audio and video.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in
>>question, as well as the
>>>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers try=20
to
>>reproduce this. If
>>>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to fix
>it.
>>>
>>>--=20
>>>John Holmes
>>>Developer, MSN Messenger
>>>
>>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,=20
and
>>confers no rights.
>>>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This
>>alias is for
>>>newsgroup purposes only.
>>>
>>>
>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they
>>>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back the
>>>driver the program them works. That is the definition
>of
>>>BAD.
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Hi Richard,
>>>>
>>>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in
>>>another thread is not the only cause of
>>>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that
>>>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>
>>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>>Jonathan,
>>>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed
>this
>>>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a=20
problem
>>>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs=20
to
>>>>be addressed.
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>Greetings,
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most
>>likely
>>>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell
>them
>>>>to do the following:
>>>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall=20
hasn't
>>>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that
>the
>>>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>>>unchecked.
>>>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories,
>Communications,
>>>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet
>>Gateway
>>>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>>>
>>>>>Finally, both of you should run through the
>Audio/Video
>>>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning
>>Wizard).
>>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>Messenger Resources -=20
http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset
>>>857,
>>>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not
>>send
>>>>a
>>>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for help
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>

[James]

Hey Richard

I just finally noticed something... on Intel's web=20
site... the LAN drivers (latest version) for download=20
indicate that they are version number 8.0.62019

However... after downloading and installing... that's not=20
the version number... the version number is 7.0.36.0

I wonder if this discrepancy is on purpose or if it is=20
really a mistake.


>-----Original Message-----
>Thanks James
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I posted this in an older thread.
>>
>>I just disabled my onboard Intel NIC and installed a=20
>>RealTek. I now have audio/video. Intel better fix=20
>>this! I was unable to roll back the drivers since the=20
>>original drivers that came with the board didn't work=20
in=20
>>the first place and updating them to the ones they were=20
>>on the net didn't fix the problem either. So rolling=20
>>back the drivers was not an option for me.
>>
>>But it's working now with this NIC. I'll be watching=20
>>Intel's web site to see if they update their drivers=20
>>anytime soon. I better not hold my breath.
>>
>>My motherboard: D875PBZ (onboard lan Intel Pro/1000 CT)
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in=20
>>question, as well as the
>>>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers try=20
>to=20
>>reproduce this. If
>>>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to fix=20
>it.
>>>
>>>--=20
>>>John Holmes
>>>Developer, MSN Messenger
>>>
>>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,=20
>and=20
>>confers no rights.
>>>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This=20
>>alias is for
>>>newsgroup purposes only.
>>>
>>>
>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they
>>>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back the
>>>driver the program them works. That is the definition=20
>of
>>>BAD.
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Hi Richard,
>>>>
>>>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in
>>>another thread is not the only cause of
>>>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that
>>>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>
>>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>>Jonathan,
>>>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed=20
>this
>>>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a=20
problem
>>>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs=20
to
>>>>be addressed.
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>Greetings,
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most=20
>>likely
>>>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell=20
>them
>>>>to do the following:
>>>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall=20
hasn't
>>>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that=20
>the
>>>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>>>unchecked.
>>>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories,=20
>Communications,
>>>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet=20
>>Gateway
>>>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>>>
>>>>>Finally, both of you should run through the=20
>Audio/Video
>>>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning=20
>>Wizard).
>>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>Messenger Resources -=20
http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset
>>>857,
>>>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not=20
>>send
>>>>a
>>>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for help
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

[James]

That is... drivers for the Intel Desktop Board D875PBZ=20
which has the Intel Pro/1000 CT NIC.


>-----Original Message-----
>Hey Richard
>
>I just finally noticed something... on Intel's web=20
>site... the LAN drivers (latest version) for download=20
>indicate that they are version number 8.0.62019
>
>However... after downloading and installing... that's=20
not=20
>the version number... the version number is 7.0.36.0
>
>I wonder if this discrepancy is on purpose or if it is=20
>really a mistake.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Thanks James
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>I posted this in an older thread.
>>>
>>>I just disabled my onboard Intel NIC and installed a=20
>>>RealTek. I now have audio/video. Intel better fix=20
>>>this! I was unable to roll back the drivers since the=20
>>>original drivers that came with the board didn't work=20
>in=20
>>>the first place and updating them to the ones they=20
were=20
>>>on the net didn't fix the problem either. So rolling=20
>>>back the drivers was not an option for me.
>>>
>>>But it's working now with this NIC. I'll be watching=20
>>>Intel's web site to see if they update their drivers=20
>>>anytime soon. I better not hold my breath.
>>>
>>>My motherboard: D875PBZ (onboard lan Intel Pro/1000 CT)
>>>
>>>
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in=20
>>>question, as well as the
>>>>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers try=20
>>to=20
>>>reproduce this. If
>>>>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to fix=20
>>it.
>>>>
>>>>--=20
>>>>John Holmes
>>>>Developer, MSN Messenger
>>>>
>>>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,=20
>>and=20
>>>confers no rights.
>>>>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias.=20
This=20
>>>alias is for
>>>>newsgroup purposes only.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they
>>>>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back=20
the
>>>>driver the program them works. That is the=20
definition=20
>>of
>>>>BAD.
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>Hi Richard,
>>>>>
>>>>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in
>>>>another thread is not the only cause of
>>>>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get=20
that
>>>>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>>>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>Messenger Resources -=20
http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>
>>>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>Jonathan,
>>>>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed=20
>>this
>>>>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a=20
>problem
>>>>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs=20
>to
>>>>>be addressed.
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>Greetings,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most=20
>>>likely
>>>>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell=20
>>them
>>>>>to do the following:
>>>>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall=20
>hasn't
>>>>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>>>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>>>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that=20
>>the
>>>>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>>>>unchecked.
>>>>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>>>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories,=20
>>Communications,
>>>>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet=20
>>>Gateway
>>>>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>>>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>>>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Finally, both of you should run through the=20
>>Audio/Video
>>>>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning=20
>>>Wizard).
>>>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>>Messenger Resources -=20
>http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset
>>>>857,
>>>>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not=20
>>>send
>>>>>a
>>>>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for help
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

[richard]

I had noticed the same thing when I called intel and they=20
pointed me to the "latest" drivers. I emailed intel=20
about the situation but they have never responded. I=20
called their support line but the people on there are=20
like robots reading scripts and assume you are stupid. =20
It is so pathetic its not even funny. I am thinking its=20
time to just give up and install a new network card and=20
forget about it. I made Microsof refund the 35 dollar=20
tech support fee they charged me as they couldn;t fix the=20
problem either. You can't imagine the fire hoops they=20
had me jumping through.
>-----Original Message-----
>That is... drivers for the Intel Desktop Board D875PBZ=20
>which has the Intel Pro/1000 CT NIC.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hey Richard
>>
>>I just finally noticed something... on Intel's web=20
>>site... the LAN drivers (latest version) for download=20
>>indicate that they are version number 8.0.62019
>>
>>However... after downloading and installing... that's=20
>not=20
>>the version number... the version number is 7.0.36.0
>>
>>I wonder if this discrepancy is on purpose or if it is=20
>>really a mistake.
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Thanks James
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>I posted this in an older thread.
>>>>
>>>>I just disabled my onboard Intel NIC and installed a=20
>>>>RealTek. I now have audio/video. Intel better fix=20
>>>>this! I was unable to roll back the drivers since=20
the=20
>>>>original drivers that came with the board didn't work=20
>>in=20
>>>>the first place and updating them to the ones they=20
>were=20
>>>>on the net didn't fix the problem either. So rolling=20
>>>>back the drivers was not an option for me.
>>>>
>>>>But it's working now with this NIC. I'll be watching=20
>>>>Intel's web site to see if they update their drivers=20
>>>>anytime soon. I better not hold my breath.
>>>>
>>>>My motherboard: D875PBZ (onboard lan Intel Pro/1000=20
CT)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>>>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in=20
>>>>question, as well as the
>>>>>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers=20
try=20
>>>to=20
>>>>reproduce this. If
>>>>>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to=20
fix=20
>>>it.
>>>>>
>>>>>--=20
>>>>>John Holmes
>>>>>Developer, MSN Messenger
>>>>>
>>>>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,=20
>>>and=20
>>>>confers no rights.
>>>>>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias.=20
>This=20
>>>>alias is for
>>>>>newsgroup purposes only.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that=20
they
>>>>>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back=20
>the
>>>>>driver the program them works. That is the=20
>definition=20
>>>of
>>>>>BAD.
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>Hi Richard,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered=20
in
>>>>>another thread is not the only cause of
>>>>>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get=20
>that
>>>>>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>>>>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>>Messenger Resources -=20
>http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>Jonathan,
>>>>>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed=20
>>>this
>>>>>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a=20
>>problem
>>>>>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really=20
needs=20
>>to
>>>>>>be addressed.
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>Greetings,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most=20
>>>>likely
>>>>>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>>>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell=20
>>>them
>>>>>>to do the following:
>>>>>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall=20
>>hasn't
>>>>>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>>>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>>>>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>>>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>>>>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>>>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify=20
that=20
>>>the
>>>>>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>>>>>unchecked.
>>>>>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>>>>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>>>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories,=20
>>>Communications,
>>>>>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>>>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet=20
>>>>Gateway
>>>>>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>>>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>>>>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>>>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>>>>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>>>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Finally, both of you should run through the=20
>>>Audio/Video
>>>>>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>>>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning=20
>>>>Wizard).
>>>>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>>>Messenger Resources -=20
>>http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest=20
chipset
>>>>>857,
>>>>>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can=20
not=20
>>>>send
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>>>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for help
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

[Lucky One]

Richard

sorry missed some of the thread
did this network card ever work with messenger


"richard" > wrote in message
...
I had noticed the same thing when I called intel and they
pointed me to the "latest" drivers. I emailed intel
about the situation but they have never responded. I
called their support line but the people on there are
like robots reading scripts and assume you are stupid.
It is so pathetic its not even funny. I am thinking its
time to just give up and install a new network card and
forget about it. I made Microsof refund the 35 dollar
tech support fee they charged me as they couldn;t fix the
problem either. You can't imagine the fire hoops they
had me jumping through.
>-----Original Message-----
>That is... drivers for the Intel Desktop Board D875PBZ
>which has the Intel Pro/1000 CT NIC.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hey Richard
>>
>>I just finally noticed something... on Intel's web
>>site... the LAN drivers (latest version) for download
>>indicate that they are version number 8.0.62019
>>
>>However... after downloading and installing... that's
>not
>>the version number... the version number is 7.0.36.0
>>
>>I wonder if this discrepancy is on purpose or if it is
>>really a mistake.
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Thanks James
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>I posted this in an older thread.
>>>>
>>>>I just disabled my onboard Intel NIC and installed a
>>>>RealTek. I now have audio/video. Intel better fix
>>>>this! I was unable to roll back the drivers since
the
>>>>original drivers that came with the board didn't work
>>in
>>>>the first place and updating them to the ones they
>were
>>>>on the net didn't fix the problem either. So rolling
>>>>back the drivers was not an option for me.
>>>>
>>>>But it's working now with this NIC. I'll be watching
>>>>Intel's web site to see if they update their drivers
>>>>anytime soon. I better not hold my breath.
>>>>
>>>>My motherboard: D875PBZ (onboard lan Intel Pro/1000
CT)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>>>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in
>>>>question, as well as the
>>>>>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers
try
>>>to
>>>>reproduce this. If
>>>>>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to
fix
>>>it.
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>John Holmes
>>>>>Developer, MSN Messenger
>>>>>
>>>>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>and
>>>>confers no rights.
>>>>>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias.
>This
>>>>alias is for
>>>>>newsgroup purposes only.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that
they
>>>>>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back
>the
>>>>>driver the program them works. That is the
>definition
>>>of
>>>>>BAD.
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>Hi Richard,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered
in
>>>>>another thread is not the only cause of
>>>>>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get
>that
>>>>>fixed is to complain to Intel --
>>>>>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>>Messenger Resources -
>http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>Jonathan,
>>>>>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed
>>>this
>>>>>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a
>>problem
>>>>>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really
needs
>>to
>>>>>>be addressed.
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>Greetings,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most
>>>>likely
>>>>>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>>>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell
>>>them
>>>>>>to do the following:
>>>>>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall
>>hasn't
>>>>>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>>>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>>>>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>>>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>>>>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>>>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify
that
>>>the
>>>>>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>>>>>unchecked.
>>>>>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>>>>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>>>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories,
>>>Communications,
>>>>>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>>>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet
>>>>Gateway
>>>>>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>>>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>>>>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>>>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>>>>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>>>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Finally, both of you should run through the
>>>Audio/Video
>>>>>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>>>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning
>>>>Wizard).
>>>>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>>>Messenger Resources -
>>http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest
chipset
>>>>>857,
>>>>>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can
not
>>>>send
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>>>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen´t work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for help
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

[richard]

Not not yet. Microsoft blames intel and intel is=20
clueless or does not care.
>-----Original Message-----
>Richard
>
>sorry missed some of the thread
>did this network card ever work with messenger
>
>
>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>I had noticed the same thing when I called intel and they
>pointed me to the "latest" drivers. I emailed intel
>about the situation but they have never responded. I
>called their support line but the people on there are
>like robots reading scripts and assume you are stupid.
>It is so pathetic its not even funny. I am thinking its
>time to just give up and install a new network card and
>forget about it. I made Microsof refund the 35 dollar
>tech support fee they charged me as they couldn;t fix the
>problem either. You can't imagine the fire hoops they
>had me jumping through.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>That is... drivers for the Intel Desktop Board D875PBZ
>>which has the Intel Pro/1000 CT NIC.
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Hey Richard
>>>
>>>I just finally noticed something... on Intel's web
>>>site... the LAN drivers (latest version) for download
>>>indicate that they are version number 8.0.62019
>>>
>>>However... after downloading and installing... that's
>>not
>>>the version number... the version number is 7.0.36.0
>>>
>>>I wonder if this discrepancy is on purpose or if it is
>>>really a mistake.
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Thanks James
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>I posted this in an older thread.
>>>>>
>>>>>I just disabled my onboard Intel NIC and installed a
>>>>>RealTek. I now have audio/video. Intel better fix
>>>>>this! I was unable to roll back the drivers since
>the
>>>>>original drivers that came with the board didn't work
>>>in
>>>>>the first place and updating them to the ones they
>>were
>>>>>on the net didn't fix the problem either. So rolling
>>>>>back the drivers was not an option for me.
>>>>>
>>>>>But it's working now with this NIC. I'll be watching
>>>>>Intel's web site to see if they update their drivers
>>>>>anytime soon. I better not hold my breath.
>>>>>
>>>>>My motherboard: D875PBZ (onboard lan Intel Pro/1000
>CT)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in
>>>>>question, as well as the
>>>>>>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers
>try
>>>>to
>>>>>reproduce this. If
>>>>>>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to
>fix
>>>>it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--=20
>>>>>>John Holmes
>>>>>>Developer, MSN Messenger
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>>and
>>>>>confers no rights.
>>>>>>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias.
>>This
>>>>>alias is for
>>>>>>newsgroup purposes only.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that
>they
>>>>>>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back
>>the
>>>>>>driver the program them works. That is the
>>definition
>>>>of
>>>>>>BAD.
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>Hi Richard,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered
>in
>>>>>>another thread is not the only cause of
>>>>>>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get
>>that
>>>>>>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>>>>>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>>>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>>>Messenger Resources -
>>http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>Jonathan,
>>>>>>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed
>>>>this
>>>>>>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a
>>>problem
>>>>>>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really
>needs
>>>to
>>>>>>>be addressed.
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>Greetings,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most
>>>>>likely
>>>>>>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>>>>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell
>>>>them
>>>>>>>to do the following:
>>>>>>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall
>>>hasn't
>>>>>>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>>>>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category=20
view
>>>>>>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>>>>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>>>>>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>>>>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify
>that
>>>>the
>>>>>>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>>>>>>unchecked.
>>>>>>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove=20
the
>>>>>>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>>>>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories,
>>>>Communications,
>>>>>>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>>>>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet
>>>>>Gateway
>>>>>>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>>>>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>>>>>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>>>>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>>>>>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>>>>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation=20
again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Finally, both of you should run through the
>>>>Audio/Video
>>>>>>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>>>>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning
>>>>>Wizard).
>>>>>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>>>>Messenger Resources -
>>>http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest
>chipset
>>>>>>857,
>>>>>>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can
>not
>>>>>send
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router.=20
can
>>>>>>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks for help
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>

[richard]

So have you come to any conclusions?
>-----Original Message-----
>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in=20
question, as well as the
>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers try to=20
reproduce this. If
>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to fix it.
>
>--=20
>John Holmes
>Developer, MSN Messenger
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and=20
confers no rights.
>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This=20
alias is for
>newsgroup purposes only.
>
>
>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they
>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back the
>driver the program them works. That is the definition of
>BAD.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi Richard,
>>
>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in
>another thread is not the only cause of
>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that
>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>____________________________________________
>>Jonathan Kay
>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>Associate Expert
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>
>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>Jonathan,
>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed this
>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem
>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to
>>be addressed.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Greetings,
>>>
>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most=20
likely
>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell them
>>to do the following:
>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that the
>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>unchecked.
>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories, Communications,
>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet=20
Gateway
>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>
>>>Finally, both of you should run through the Audio/Video
>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning=20
Wizard).
>>>____________________________________________
>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>Associate Expert
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>Hello,
>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset
>857,
>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not=20
send
>>a
>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>
>>>Thanks for help
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>

[James]

Can you let me know where you got the "latest" drivers? =20
Are they for the Pro/1000 CT?

Thanks


>-----Original Message-----
>I had noticed the same thing when I called intel and=20
they=20
>pointed me to the "latest" drivers. I emailed intel=20
>about the situation but they have never responded. I=20
>called their support line but the people on there are=20
>like robots reading scripts and assume you are stupid. =20
>It is so pathetic its not even funny. I am thinking its=20
>time to just give up and install a new network card and=20
>forget about it. I made Microsof refund the 35 dollar=20
>tech support fee they charged me as they couldn;t fix=20
the=20
>problem either. You can't imagine the fire hoops they=20
>had me jumping through.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>That is... drivers for the Intel Desktop Board D875PBZ=20
>>which has the Intel Pro/1000 CT NIC.
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Hey Richard
>>>
>>>I just finally noticed something... on Intel's web=20
>>>site... the LAN drivers (latest version) for download=20
>>>indicate that they are version number 8.0.62019
>>>
>>>However... after downloading and installing... that's=20
>>not=20
>>>the version number... the version number is 7.0.36.0
>>>
>>>I wonder if this discrepancy is on purpose or if it is=20
>>>really a mistake.
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Thanks James
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>I posted this in an older thread.
>>>>>
>>>>>I just disabled my onboard Intel NIC and installed a=20
>>>>>RealTek. I now have audio/video. Intel better fix=20
>>>>>this! I was unable to roll back the drivers since=20
>the=20
>>>>>original drivers that came with the board didn't=20
work=20
>>>in=20
>>>>>the first place and updating them to the ones they=20
>>were=20
>>>>>on the net didn't fix the problem either. So=20
rolling=20
>>>>>back the drivers was not an option for me.
>>>>>
>>>>>But it's working now with this NIC. I'll be=20
watching=20
>>>>>Intel's web site to see if they update their drivers=20
>>>>>anytime soon. I better not hold my breath.
>>>>>
>>>>>My motherboard: D875PBZ (onboard lan Intel Pro/1000=20
>CT)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in=20
>>>>>question, as well as the
>>>>>>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers=20
>try=20
>>>>to=20
>>>>>reproduce this. If
>>>>>>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to=20
>fix=20
>>>>it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--=20
>>>>>>John Holmes
>>>>>>Developer, MSN Messenger
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no=20
warranties,=20
>>>>and=20
>>>>>confers no rights.
>>>>>>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias.=20
>>This=20
>>>>>alias is for
>>>>>>newsgroup purposes only.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that=20
>they
>>>>>>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back=20
>>the
>>>>>>driver the program them works. That is the=20
>>definition=20
>>>>of
>>>>>>BAD.
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>Hi Richard,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered=20
>in
>>>>>>another thread is not the only cause of
>>>>>>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get=20
>>that
>>>>>>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>>>>>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>>>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>>>Messenger Resources -=20
>>http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>Jonathan,
>>>>>>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have=20
fixed=20
>>>>this
>>>>>>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a=20
>>>problem
>>>>>>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really=20
>needs=20
>>>to
>>>>>>>be addressed.
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>Greetings,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most=20
>>>>>likely
>>>>>>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>>>>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. =20
Tell=20
>>>>them
>>>>>>>to do the following:
>>>>>>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall=20
>>>hasn't
>>>>>>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>>>>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category=20
view
>>>>>>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>>>>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>>>>>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>>>>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify=20
>that=20
>>>>the
>>>>>>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>>>>>>unchecked.
>>>>>>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove=20
the
>>>>>>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>>>>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories,=20
>>>>Communications,
>>>>>>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>>>>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet=20
>>>>>Gateway
>>>>>>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>>>>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>>>>>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>>>>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>>>>>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>>>>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation=20
again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Finally, both of you should run through the=20
>>>>Audio/Video
>>>>>>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>>>>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning=20
>>>>>Wizard).
>>>>>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>>>>Messenger Resources -=20
>>>http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest=20
>chipset
>>>>>>857,
>>>>>>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can=20
>not=20
>>>>>send
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router.=20
can
>>>>>>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks for help
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

[richard]

http://support.intel.com/support/network/adapter/pro100/pr
o100ve/index.htm

That is the page intel support took me to. It doesn not=20
appear to be for our card which I mentioned to him and he=20
said that it is a library of drivers and contains the=20
drivers for our card. I>-----Original Message-----
>Can you let me know where you got the "latest" drivers? =20
>Are they for the Pro/1000 CT?
>
>Thanks
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I had noticed the same thing when I called intel and=20
>they=20
>>pointed me to the "latest" drivers. I emailed intel=20
>>about the situation but they have never responded. I=20
>>called their support line but the people on there are=20
>>like robots reading scripts and assume you are stupid. =20
>>It is so pathetic its not even funny. I am thinking=20
its=20
>>time to just give up and install a new network card and=20
>>forget about it. I made Microsof refund the 35 dollar=20
>>tech support fee they charged me as they couldn;t fix=20
>the=20
>>problem either. You can't imagine the fire hoops they=20
>>had me jumping through.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>That is... drivers for the Intel Desktop Board D875PBZ=20
>>>which has the Intel Pro/1000 CT NIC.
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Hey Richard
>>>>
>>>>I just finally noticed something... on Intel's web=20
>>>>site... the LAN drivers (latest version) for download=20
>>>>indicate that they are version number 8.0.62019
>>>>
>>>>However... after downloading and installing... that's=20
>>>not=20
>>>>the version number... the version number is 7.0.36.0
>>>>
>>>>I wonder if this discrepancy is on purpose or if it=20
is=20
>>>>really a mistake.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>Thanks James
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>I posted this in an older thread.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I just disabled my onboard Intel NIC and installed=20
a=20
>>>>>>RealTek. I now have audio/video. Intel better fix=20
>>>>>>this! I was unable to roll back the drivers since=20
>>the=20
>>>>>>original drivers that came with the board didn't=20
>work=20
>>>>in=20
>>>>>>the first place and updating them to the ones they=20
>>>were=20
>>>>>>on the net didn't fix the problem either. So=20
>rolling=20
>>>>>>back the drivers was not an option for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But it's working now with this NIC. I'll be=20
>watching=20
>>>>>>Intel's web site to see if they update their=20
drivers=20
>>>>>>anytime soon. I better not hold my breath.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My motherboard: D875PBZ (onboard lan Intel Pro/1000=20
>>CT)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in=20
>>>>>>question, as well as the
>>>>>>>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers=20
>>try=20
>>>>>to=20
>>>>>>reproduce this. If
>>>>>>>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to=20
>>fix=20
>>>>>it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--=20
>>>>>>>John Holmes
>>>>>>>Developer, MSN Messenger
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no=20
>warranties,=20
>>>>>and=20
>>>>>>confers no rights.
>>>>>>>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias.=20
>>>This=20
>>>>>>alias is for
>>>>>>>newsgroup purposes only.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that=20
>>they
>>>>>>>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll=20
back=20
>>>the
>>>>>>>driver the program them works. That is the=20
>>>definition=20
>>>>>of
>>>>>>>BAD.
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>Hi Richard,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others=20
discovered=20
>>in
>>>>>>>another thread is not the only cause of
>>>>>>>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get=20
>>>that
>>>>>>>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>>>>>>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>>>>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>>>>Messenger Resources -=20
>>>http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have=20
>fixed=20
>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a=20
>>>>problem
>>>>>>>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really=20
>>needs=20
>>>>to
>>>>>>>>be addressed.
>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>Greetings,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side,=20
most=20
>>>>>>likely
>>>>>>>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>>>>>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. =20
>Tell=20
>>>>>them
>>>>>>>>to do the following:
>>>>>>>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall=20
>>>>hasn't
>>>>>>>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>>>>>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category=20
>view
>>>>>>>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>>>>>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>>>>>>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>>>>>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify=20
>>that=20
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>>>>>>>unchecked.
>>>>>>>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove=20
>the
>>>>>>>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>>>>>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories,=20
>>>>>Communications,
>>>>>>>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>>>>>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet=20
>>>>>>Gateway
>>>>>>>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>>>>>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>>>>>>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>>>>>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click=20
the
>>>>>>>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>>>>>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation=20
>again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Finally, both of you should run through the=20
>>>>>Audio/Video
>>>>>>>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>>>>>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning=20
>>>>>>Wizard).
>>>>>>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>>>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>>>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>>>>>Messenger Resources -=20
>>>>http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest=20
>>chipset
>>>>>>>857,
>>>>>>>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can=20
>>not=20
>>>>>>send
>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router.=20
>can
>>>>>>>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks for help
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

[James]

Ya... those are the same ones that I got but from a=20
different location on their web site. Says 8.0 but=20
really they are 7.0.36.0

Thanks anyway.

I still have the RealTek installed anyway. That's=20
working. Disappointing though that it doesn't work the=20
way it's supposed to. Oh well maybe eventually Intel=20
will fixed this.


>-----Original Message-----
>http://support.intel.com/support/network/adapter/pro100/p
r
>o100ve/index.htm
>
>That is the page intel support took me to. It doesn not=20
>appear to be for our card which I mentioned to him and=20
he=20
>said that it is a library of drivers and contains the=20
>drivers for our card. I>-----Original Message-----
>>Can you let me know where you got the "latest"=20
drivers? =20
>>Are they for the Pro/1000 CT?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>I had noticed the same thing when I called intel and=20
>>they=20
>>>pointed me to the "latest" drivers. I emailed intel=20
>>>about the situation but they have never responded. I=20
>>>called their support line but the people on there are=20
>>>like robots reading scripts and assume you are=20
stupid. =20
>>>It is so pathetic its not even funny. I am thinking=20
>its=20
>>>time to just give up and install a new network card=20
and=20
>>>forget about it. I made Microsof refund the 35 dollar=20
>>>tech support fee they charged me as they couldn;t fix=20
>>the=20
>>>problem either. You can't imagine the fire hoops they=20
>>>had me jumping through.
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>That is... drivers for the Intel Desktop Board=20
D875PBZ=20
>>>>which has the Intel Pro/1000 CT NIC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>Hey Richard
>>>>>
>>>>>I just finally noticed something... on Intel's web=20
>>>>>site... the LAN drivers (latest version) for=20
download=20
>>>>>indicate that they are version number 8.0.62019
>>>>>
>>>>>However... after downloading and installing...=20
that's=20
>>>>not=20
>>>>>the version number... the version number is 7.0.36.0
>>>>>
>>>>>I wonder if this discrepancy is on purpose or if it=20
>is=20
>>>>>really a mistake.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>Thanks James
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>I posted this in an older thread.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I just disabled my onboard Intel NIC and installed=20
>a=20
>>>>>>>RealTek. I now have audio/video. Intel better=20
fix=20
>>>>>>>this! I was unable to roll back the drivers since=20
>>>the=20
>>>>>>>original drivers that came with the board didn't=20
>>work=20
>>>>>in=20
>>>>>>>the first place and updating them to the ones they=20
>>>>were=20
>>>>>>>on the net didn't fix the problem either. So=20
>>rolling=20
>>>>>>>back the drivers was not an option for me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But it's working now with this NIC. I'll be=20
>>watching=20
>>>>>>>Intel's web site to see if they update their=20
>drivers=20
>>>>>>>anytime soon. I better not hold my breath.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My motherboard: D875PBZ (onboard lan Intel=20
Pro/1000=20
>>>CT)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in=20
>>>>>>>question, as well as the
>>>>>>>>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers=20
>>>try=20
>>>>>>to=20
>>>>>>>reproduce this. If
>>>>>>>>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to=20
>>>fix=20
>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>--=20
>>>>>>>>John Holmes
>>>>>>>>Developer, MSN Messenger
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no=20
>>warranties,=20
>>>>>>and=20
>>>>>>>confers no rights.
>>>>>>>>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias.=20
>>>>This=20
>>>>>>>alias is for
>>>>>>>>newsgroup purposes only.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that=20
>>>they
>>>>>>>>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll=20
>back=20
>>>>the
>>>>>>>>driver the program them works. That is the=20
>>>>definition=20
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>BAD.
>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>Hi Richard,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others=20
>discovered=20
>>>in
>>>>>>>>another thread is not the only cause of
>>>>>>>>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to=20
get=20
>>>>that
>>>>>>>>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>>>>>>>>unless these "bad" drivers are on=20
WindowsUpdate...
>>>>>>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>>>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>>>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>>>>>Messenger Resources -=20
>>>>http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>>Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have=20
>>fixed=20
>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a=20
>>>>>problem
>>>>>>>>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really=20
>>>needs=20
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>be addressed.
>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>Greetings,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side,=20
>most=20
>>>>>>>likely
>>>>>>>>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>>>>>>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. =20
>>Tell=20
>>>>>>them
>>>>>>>>>to do the following:
>>>>>>>>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall=20
>>>>>hasn't
>>>>>>>>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>>>>>>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category=20
>>view
>>>>>>>>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>>>>>>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>>>>>>>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>>>>>>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify=20
>>>that=20
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>>>>>>>>unchecked.
>>>>>>>>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove=20
>>the
>>>>>>>>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>>>>>>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories,=20
>>>>>>Communications,
>>>>>>>>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>>>>>>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the=20
Internet=20
>>>>>>>Gateway
>>>>>>>>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>>>>>>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>>>>>>>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>>>>>>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click=20
>the
>>>>>>>>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>>>>>>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation=20
>>again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Finally, both of you should run through the=20
>>>>>>Audio/Video
>>>>>>>>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>>>>>>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning=20
>>>>>>>Wizard).
>>>>>>>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>>>>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>>>>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>>>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>>>>>>Messenger Resources -=20
>>>>>http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest=20
>>>chipset
>>>>>>>>857,
>>>>>>>>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can=20
>>>not=20
>>>>>>>send
>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router.=20
>>can
>>>>>>>>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for help
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

[John Holmes [MSFT]]

Not yet. It's pretty hectic trying to get v6 shipped.

I have an Intel onboard chip on one of my PCs at home. I'll check it out
tonight and see what driver version I have, etc.

--
John Holmes
Developer, MSN Messenger

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This alias is for
newsgroup purposes only.


"richard" > wrote in message
...
So have you come to any conclusions?
>-----Original Message-----
>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in
question, as well as the
>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers try to
reproduce this. If
>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to fix it.
>
>--
>John Holmes
>Developer, MSN Messenger
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This
alias is for
>newsgroup purposes only.
>
>
>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they
>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back the
>driver the program them works. That is the definition of
>BAD.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi Richard,
>>
>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in
>another thread is not the only cause of
>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that
>fixed is to complain to Intel --
>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>____________________________________________
>>Jonathan Kay
>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>Associate Expert
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>
>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>Jonathan,
>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed this
>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem
>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to
>>be addressed.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Greetings,
>>>
>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most
likely
>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell them
>>to do the following:
>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that the
>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>unchecked.
>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories, Communications,
>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet
Gateway
>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>
>>>Finally, both of you should run through the Audio/Video
>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning
Wizard).
>>>____________________________________________
>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>Associate Expert
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>Hello,
>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset
>857,
>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not
send
>>a
>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen´t work.
>>>
>>>Thanks for help
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>

[richard]

WEll I have a DLink card here which I will get around to=20
putting in as it appears that no one is gonna fix=20
anything.
>-----Original Message-----
>Ya... those are the same ones that I got but from a=20
>different location on their web site. Says 8.0 but=20
>really they are 7.0.36.0
>
>Thanks anyway.
>
>I still have the RealTek installed anyway. That's=20
>working. Disappointing though that it doesn't work the=20
>way it's supposed to. Oh well maybe eventually Intel=20
>will fixed this.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>http://support.intel.com/support/network/adapter/pro100/
p
>r
>>o100ve/index.htm
>>
>>That is the page intel support took me to. It doesn=20
not=20
>>appear to be for our card which I mentioned to him and=20
>he=20
>>said that it is a library of drivers and contains the=20
>>drivers for our card. I>-----Original Message-----
>>>Can you let me know where you got the "latest"=20
>drivers? =20
>>>Are they for the Pro/1000 CT?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>I had noticed the same thing when I called intel and=20
>>>they=20
>>>>pointed me to the "latest" drivers. I emailed intel=20
>>>>about the situation but they have never responded. I=20
>>>>called their support line but the people on there are=20
>>>>like robots reading scripts and assume you are=20
>stupid. =20
>>>>It is so pathetic its not even funny. I am thinking=20
>>its=20
>>>>time to just give up and install a new network card=20
>and=20
>>>>forget about it. I made Microsof refund the 35=20
dollar=20
>>>>tech support fee they charged me as they couldn;t fix=20
>>>the=20
>>>>problem either. You can't imagine the fire hoops=20
they=20
>>>>had me jumping through.
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>That is... drivers for the Intel Desktop Board=20
>D875PBZ=20
>>>>>which has the Intel Pro/1000 CT NIC.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>Hey Richard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I just finally noticed something... on Intel's web=20
>>>>>>site... the LAN drivers (latest version) for=20
>download=20
>>>>>>indicate that they are version number 8.0.62019
>>>>>>
>>>>>>However... after downloading and installing...=20
>that's=20
>>>>>not=20
>>>>>>the version number... the version number is 7.0.36.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I wonder if this discrepancy is on purpose or if it=20
>>is=20
>>>>>>really a mistake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>Thanks James
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>I posted this in an older thread.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I just disabled my onboard Intel NIC and=20
installed=20
>>a=20
>>>>>>>>RealTek. I now have audio/video. Intel better=20
>fix=20
>>>>>>>>this! I was unable to roll back the drivers=20
since=20
>>>>the=20
>>>>>>>>original drivers that came with the board didn't=20
>>>work=20
>>>>>>in=20
>>>>>>>>the first place and updating them to the ones=20
they=20
>>>>>were=20
>>>>>>>>on the net didn't fix the problem either. So=20
>>>rolling=20
>>>>>>>>back the drivers was not an option for me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>But it's working now with this NIC. I'll be=20
>>>watching=20
>>>>>>>>Intel's web site to see if they update their=20
>>drivers=20
>>>>>>>>anytime soon. I better not hold my breath.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My motherboard: D875PBZ (onboard lan Intel=20
>Pro/1000=20
>>>>CT)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in=20
>>>>>>>>question, as well as the
>>>>>>>>>model of the card, I can have one of ours=20
testers=20
>>>>try=20
>>>>>>>to=20
>>>>>>>>reproduce this. If
>>>>>>>>>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel=20
to=20
>>>>fix=20
>>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>--=20
>>>>>>>>>John Holmes
>>>>>>>>>Developer, MSN Messenger
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no=20
>>>warranties,=20
>>>>>>>and=20
>>>>>>>>confers no rights.
>>>>>>>>>Please do not send e-mail directly to this=20
alias.=20
>>>>>This=20
>>>>>>>>alias is for
>>>>>>>>>newsgroup purposes only.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is=20
that=20
>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll=20
>>back=20
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>driver the program them works. That is the=20
>>>>>definition=20
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>BAD.
>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>Hi Richard,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others=20
>>discovered=20
>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>another thread is not the only cause of
>>>>>>>>>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to=20
>get=20
>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>>>>>>>>>unless these "bad" drivers are on=20
>WindowsUpdate...
>>>>>>>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>>>>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>>>>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>>>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>>>>>>Messenger Resources -=20
>>>>>http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>>>Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have=20
>>>fixed=20
>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a=20
>>>>>>problem
>>>>>>>>>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really=20
>>>>needs=20
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>be addressed.
>>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>Greetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side,=20
>>most=20
>>>>>>>>likely
>>>>>>>>>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>>>>>>>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. =20
>>>Tell=20
>>>>>>>them
>>>>>>>>>>to do the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection=20
Firewall=20
>>>>>>hasn't
>>>>>>>>>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>>>>>>>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category=20
>>>view
>>>>>>>>>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>>>>>>>>>then click Network Connections. Right click=20
your
>>>>>>>>>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>>>>>>>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify=20
>>>>that=20
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>>>>>>>>>unchecked.
>>>>>>>>>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled),=20
remove=20
>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>>>>>>>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories,=20
>>>>>>>Communications,
>>>>>>>>>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>>>>>>>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the=20
>Internet=20
>>>>>>>>Gateway
>>>>>>>>>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>>>>>>>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>>>>>>>>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>>>>>>>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click=20
>>the
>>>>>>>>>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>>>>>>>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation=20
>>>again.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Finally, both of you should run through the=20
>>>>>>>Audio/Video
>>>>>>>>>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>>>>>>>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio=20
Tuning=20
>>>>>>>>Wizard).
>>>>>>>>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>>>>>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>>>>>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>>>>>>>Messenger Resources -=20
>>>>>>http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest=20
>>>>chipset
>>>>>>>>>857,
>>>>>>>>>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i=20
can=20
>>>>not=20
>>>>>>>>send
>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or=20
router.=20
>>>can
>>>>>>>>>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for help
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

[richard]

Thanks.
>-----Original Message-----
>Not yet. It's pretty hectic trying to get v6 shipped.
>
>I have an Intel onboard chip on one of my PCs at home.=20
I'll check it out
>tonight and see what driver version I have, etc.
>
>--=20
>John Holmes
>Developer, MSN Messenger
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and=20
confers no rights.
>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This=20
alias is for
>newsgroup purposes only.
>
>
>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>So have you come to any conclusions?
>>-----Original Message-----
>>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in
>question, as well as the
>>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers try to
>reproduce this. If
>>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to fix=20
it.
>>
>>--=20
>>John Holmes
>>Developer, MSN Messenger
>>
>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>confers no rights.
>>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This
>alias is for
>>newsgroup purposes only.
>>
>>
>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they
>>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back the
>>driver the program them works. That is the definition=20
of
>>BAD.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Hi Richard,
>>>
>>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in
>>another thread is not the only cause of
>>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that
>>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>>____________________________________________
>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>Associate Expert
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>
>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>Jonathan,
>>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed=20
this
>>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem
>>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to
>>>be addressed.
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Greetings,
>>>>
>>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most
>likely
>>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell=20
them
>>>to do the following:
>>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
>>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that=20
the
>>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>>unchecked.
>>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories,=20
Communications,
>>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet
>Gateway
>>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>>
>>>>Finally, both of you should run through the=20
Audio/Video
>>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning
>Wizard).
>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>>Hello,
>>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset
>>857,
>>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not
>send
>>>a
>>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>

[Lucky One]

richard
just went to the intel site and checked for new drivers for my network card
intel pro 10/100VE and they are still the same 6.4.14.0 date 9/25/2002 so am
not shore where you got your information from that is a newer version for
this card

"richard" > wrote in message
...
Thanks.
>-----Original Message-----
>Not yet. It's pretty hectic trying to get v6 shipped.
>
>I have an Intel onboard chip on one of my PCs at home.
I'll check it out
>tonight and see what driver version I have, etc.
>
>--
>John Holmes
>Developer, MSN Messenger
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This
alias is for
>newsgroup purposes only.
>
>
>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>So have you come to any conclusions?
>>-----Original Message-----
>>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in
>question, as well as the
>>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers try to
>reproduce this. If
>>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to fix
it.
>>
>>--
>>John Holmes
>>Developer, MSN Messenger
>>
>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>confers no rights.
>>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This
>alias is for
>>newsgroup purposes only.
>>
>>
>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they
>>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back the
>>driver the program them works. That is the definition
of
>>BAD.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Hi Richard,
>>>
>>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in
>>another thread is not the only cause of
>>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that
>>fixed is to complain to Intel --
>>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>>____________________________________________
>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>Associate Expert
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>
>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>Jonathan,
>>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed
this
>>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem
>>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to
>>>be addressed.
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Greetings,
>>>>
>>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most
>likely
>>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell
them
>>>to do the following:
>>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
>>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that
the
>>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>>unchecked.
>>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories,
Communications,
>>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet
>Gateway
>>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>>
>>>>Finally, both of you should run through the
Audio/Video
>>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning
>Wizard).
>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>>Hello,
>>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset
>>857,
>>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not
>send
>>>a
>>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen´t work.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>

[richard]

I don't have that card.
>-----Original Message-----
>richard
>just went to the intel site and checked for new drivers=20
for my network card
>intel pro 10/100VE and they are still the same 6.4.14.0=20
date 9/25/2002 so am
>not shore where you got your information from that is a=20
newer version for
>this card
>
>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>Thanks.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Not yet. It's pretty hectic trying to get v6 shipped.
>>
>>I have an Intel onboard chip on one of my PCs at home.
>I'll check it out
>>tonight and see what driver version I have, etc.
>>
>>--=20
>>John Holmes
>>Developer, MSN Messenger
>>
>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>confers no rights.
>>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This
>alias is for
>>newsgroup purposes only.
>>
>>
>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>So have you come to any conclusions?
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in
>>question, as well as the
>>>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers try=20
to
>>reproduce this. If
>>>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to fix
>it.
>>>
>>>--=20
>>>John Holmes
>>>Developer, MSN Messenger
>>>
>>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,=20
and
>>confers no rights.
>>>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This
>>alias is for
>>>newsgroup purposes only.
>>>
>>>
>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they
>>>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back the
>>>driver the program them works. That is the definition
>of
>>>BAD.
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Hi Richard,
>>>>
>>>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in
>>>another thread is not the only cause of
>>>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that
>>>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>
>>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>>Jonathan,
>>>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed
>this
>>>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a=20
problem
>>>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs=20
to
>>>>be addressed.
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>Greetings,
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most
>>likely
>>>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell
>them
>>>>to do the following:
>>>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall=20
hasn't
>>>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that
>the
>>>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>>>unchecked.
>>>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories,
>Communications,
>>>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet
>>Gateway
>>>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>>>
>>>>>Finally, both of you should run through the
>Audio/Video
>>>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning
>>Wizard).
>>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>>Messenger Resources -=20
http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset
>>>857,
>>>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not
>>send
>>>>a
>>>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for help
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>

[Gary]

I followed ur instructions below (disabled=20
firewall/deleted msnmsgr/msnmsgs). I also deleted by=20
mistake an entry called "windows" afterwhich i couldn't=20
get an audio/video connection with another XP user. Went=20
thru wizard and mic/sound check out as ok; as does the=20
other XP user. I'm behind a Linksys router which is uPNP=20
enabled. What settings should there be in the INTERNET=20
GATEWAY PROPERTIES? Thanks, Gary
>-----Original Message-----
>Greetings,
>
>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most likely=20
since your contact isn't receiving
>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell them=20
to do the following:
>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't=20
turned on, click Start, then
>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view=20
click Network and Internet connections
>then click Network Connections. Right click your=20
network/internet connection, then click
>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that the=20
Internet Connection Firewall is
>unchecked.
>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the=20
current port forwardings -- to do so,
>click Start, All Programs, Accessories, Communications,=20
Network Connections. Right-click the
>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet Gateway=20
heading) and choose Properties.
>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'=20
or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the=20
Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>
>Finally, both of you should run through the Audio/Video=20
Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning Wizard).
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
>
>
>"cumi" > wrote in message=20
...
>Hello,
>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset 857,
>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not send=20
a
>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>
>Thanks for help
>
>
>.
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Gary,

There really shouldn't be any "important" entry in there (unless you've set up a port
forwarding manually yourself) that won't be readded by a reboot/restarting the program.
Messenger should automatically add them when it requires them. Unfortunately a number of
routers only have a small number of possible UPnP port forwardings, and as such, by
"cleaning" them out, you allow it to readd the necessary ones the next time Messenger is
loaded.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
I followed ur instructions below (disabled
firewall/deleted msnmsgr/msnmsgs). I also deleted by
mistake an entry called "windows" afterwhich i couldn't
get an audio/video connection with another XP user. Went
thru wizard and mic/sound check out as ok; as does the
other XP user. I'm behind a Linksys router which is uPNP
enabled. What settings should there be in the INTERNET
GATEWAY PROPERTIES? Thanks, Gary
>-----Original Message-----
>Greetings,
>
>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most likely
since your contact isn't receiving
>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell them
to do the following:
>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
turned on, click Start, then
>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
click Network and Internet connections
>then click Network Connections. Right click your
network/internet connection, then click
>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that the
Internet Connection Firewall is
>unchecked.
>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
current port forwardings -- to do so,
>click Start, All Programs, Accessories, Communications,
Network Connections. Right-click the
>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet Gateway
heading) and choose Properties.
>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>
>Finally, both of you should run through the Audio/Video
Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning Wizard).
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
>
>
>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>Hello,
>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset 857,
>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not send
a
>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>somebody tell me please why it dosen´t work.
>
>Thanks for help
>
>
>.
>

[James]

I'm wondering if you have been able to check your onboard=20
intel chip? did you experience the same problem? If so,=20
it would be great if Microsoft and Intel could work=20
together to fix this problem. Even if you did not=20
experience the same problem hopefully Microsoft and Intel=20
can still looked into this. Thanks John


>-----Original Message-----
>Not yet. It's pretty hectic trying to get v6 shipped.
>
>I have an Intel onboard chip on one of my PCs at home.=20
I'll check it out
>tonight and see what driver version I have, etc.
>
>--=20
>John Holmes
>Developer, MSN Messenger
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and=20
confers no rights.
>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This=20
alias is for
>newsgroup purposes only.
>
>
>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>So have you come to any conclusions?
>>-----Original Message-----
>>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in
>question, as well as the
>>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers try to
>reproduce this. If
>>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to fix=20
it.
>>
>>--=20
>>John Holmes
>>Developer, MSN Messenger
>>
>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>confers no rights.
>>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This
>alias is for
>>newsgroup purposes only.
>>
>>
>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they
>>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back the
>>driver the program them works. That is the definition=20
of
>>BAD.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Hi Richard,
>>>
>>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in
>>another thread is not the only cause of
>>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that
>>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>>____________________________________________
>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>Associate Expert
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>
>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>Jonathan,
>>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed=20
this
>>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem
>>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to
>>>be addressed.
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Greetings,
>>>>
>>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most
>likely
>>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell=20
them
>>>to do the following:
>>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
>>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that=20
the
>>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>>unchecked.
>>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories,=20
Communications,
>>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet
>Gateway
>>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>>
>>>>Finally, both of you should run through the=20
Audio/Video
>>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning
>Wizard).
>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>>Hello,
>>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset
>>857,
>>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not
>send
>>>a
>>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>

[James]

Hey Richard...

I just noticed that Intel has updated their web site. =20
They now have drivers... 8.0.65293 dated 20 June 2003 . =20
I have not tried these out yet but perhaps this will=20
solve some of our problems. The version number listed I=20
have not confirmed whether or not that is the actual=20
number that gets installed (as I still have not tried=20
this out).

Good luck (to the both of us LOL)


>-----Original Message-----
>It is intel driver version 7.0.36.0 dated March 11, 2003=20
>for intel Pro/100 and Pro/1000 nic cards.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>If you can tell me the versions of the driver in=20
>question, as well as the
>>model of the card, I can have one of ours testers try=20
to=20
>reproduce this. If
>>it is causing an issue, we can work with Intel to fix=20
it.
>>
>>--=20
>>John Holmes
>>Developer, MSN Messenger
>>
>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,=20
and=20
>confers no rights.
>>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This=20
>alias is for
>>newsgroup purposes only.
>>
>>
>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>And I like the "bad" reference. The fact is that they
>>are not "bad" they are BAD as in when you roll back the
>>driver the program them works. That is the definition=20
of
>>BAD.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Hi Richard,
>>>
>>>The Intel NIC issue that you and others discovered in
>>another thread is not the only cause of
>>>this problem. Realistically, the only way to get that
>>fixed is to complain to Intel --=20
>>>unless these "bad" drivers are on WindowsUpdate...
>>>____________________________________________
>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>Associate Expert
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>
>>>"richard" > wrote in message
...
>>>Jonathan,
>>>Alot of people have with Intel nic cards have fixed=20
this
>>>problem by rolling back the driver. There is a problem
>>>with intel nic cards and messenger that really needs to
>>>be addressed.
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Greetings,
>>>>
>>>>I don't believe the problem is on your side, most=20
>likely
>>>since your contact isn't receiving
>>>>you, something on their side is blocking it. Tell=20
them
>>>to do the following:
>>>>Make sure that the Internet Connection Firewall hasn't
>>>turned on, click Start, then
>>>>click the Control Panel. If you're in category view
>>>click Network and Internet connections
>>>>then click Network Connections. Right click your
>>>network/internet connection, then click
>>>>Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that=20
the
>>>Internet Connection Firewall is
>>>>unchecked.
>>>>If you're using a router (UPnP enabled), remove the
>>>current port forwardings -- to do so,
>>>>click Start, All Programs, Accessories,=20
Communications,
>>>Network Connections. Right-click the
>>>>"Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet=20
>Gateway
>>>heading) and choose Properties.
>>>>Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs'
>>>or 'msnmsgr' entry and then choose 'Delete'
>>>>to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the
>>>Messenger icon, choose Exit), then restart
>>>>Messenger and try a voice/video conversation again.
>>>>
>>>>Finally, both of you should run through the=20
Audio/Video
>>>Tuning Wizard (click the Tools menu
>>>>in the main Messenger window, then Audio Tuning=20
>Wizard).
>>>>____________________________________________
>>>>Jonathan Kay
>>>>Windows MVP, Messenger
>>>>Associate Expert
>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"cumi" > wrote in message
...
>>>>Hello,
>>>>i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset
>>857,
>>>>i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not=20
>send
>>>a
>>>>picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
>>>>somebody tell me please why it dosen=B4t work.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

[Will]

I think your problem may be the same as the one we encountered on a
Dell 4600 with Intel Pro VE integrated network card.

Go to your control panel > network connections, and double click the
network connection you use. Click "properties" and see if "QoS Packet
Scheduler" service is listed. If it is, then take the check mark out
and click "OK". This should enable you to transmit voice in MSN
Messenger. Apparently there is some conflict with the Intel network
adapter and the QoS service. In most cases the QoS service is not
needed especially for machines not on a network. You can read more
about the service here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q316666

Good Luck





"cumi" > wrote in message >...
> Hello,
> i have a dell dimension 8300 with the newest chipset 857,
> i get the incoming picture and Video, but i can not send a
> picture or video. I have no firewall or router. can
> somebody tell me please why it dosen t work.
>
> Thanks for help