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Scott
December 5th 03, 02:41 PM
Shannon,
I am with you. These pop-ups are annoying as hell. How
do we remove them.
Scott

Jonathan Kay [MVP]
December 5th 03, 02:47 PM
Greetings Scott,

What you're seeing is the Messenger service built-in to Windows, *not* Windows Messenger
(which are two different things) which spammers are exploiting -- this is not Microsoft, nor
can Microsoft control them anymore then they can control spam to your e-mail inbox.

To get rid of these pop ups, you'll need to disable the "Messenger Service", click Start,
then Run, enter "services.msc"and click OK. Scroll down to "Messenger", select it,
right-click and then choose Properties. Under startup type, choose 'Disabled' and then
choose the 'Stop' button. After the service is stopped, click OK. Nothing in Windows or any
real third-party applications should be effected by this.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Scott" > wrote in message ...
>
> Shannon,
> I am with you. These pop-ups are annoying as hell. How
> do we remove them.
> Scott

Amethyst
December 5th 03, 02:47 PM
Jonathan Kay [MVP] wrote:
> Greetings Scott,
>
> What you're seeing is the Messenger service built-in to Windows, *not*
> Windows Messenger (which are two different things) which spammers are
> exploiting -- this is not Microsoft, nor can Microsoft control them
anymore
> then they can control spam to your e-mail inbox.
>
> To get rid of these pop ups, you'll need to disable the "Messenger
Service",
> click Start, then Run, enter "services.msc"and click OK. Scroll down to
> "Messenger", select it, right-click and then choose Properties. Under
> startup type, choose 'Disabled' and then choose the 'Stop' button. After
the
> service is stopped, click OK. Nothing in Windows or any real third-party
> applications should be effected by this.
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Windows MVP, Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

I tell you what you /DON'T/ do - follow Jonathan's advice. The /correct/ way
to eliminate this nuisance is below: -

The ports in question (137-139) are also used for more nefarious purposes
(trojans use them to 'phone home'). The only effective way (despite what Mr
Kay will tell you) is to install a firewall. The native
one will work at a pinch, though it only works one way (incoming not
outgoing). Disabling the service is like sweeping bills under the carpet -
you can't see them anymore but, if you don't deal with them the consequences
could be serious.

Install a firewall, configure it to block those ports, and rest, safe in the
knowledge that nothing can attack your computer.

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Erik
December 5th 03, 02:48 PM
Why would anyone listen to you when Jon Kay gives out the correct info. Take
your FUD and your elitist attitude elsewhere.

Those ports are not open (well, 139 is since it's a standard port and it
won't do any harm in being opened), run scans, you'll see they are not. They
are only opened when they need be. Jeez, do you live at Gibson Research?

Were you against UPnP? Raw sockets in Windows XP? The death of the 'net as
we know it? Come on man, don't dis someone because they know what they're
talking about and you have to go to extremes to prevent something that
likely will never ever happen.

--
Carpe Diem

Erik

"Amethyst" > wrote in message
...
> Jonathan Kay [MVP] wrote:
> > Greetings Scott,
> >
> > What you're seeing is the Messenger service built-in to Windows, *not*
> > Windows Messenger (which are two different things) which spammers are
> > exploiting -- this is not Microsoft, nor can Microsoft control them
> anymore
> > then they can control spam to your e-mail inbox.
> >
> > To get rid of these pop ups, you'll need to disable the "Messenger
> Service",
> > click Start, then Run, enter "services.msc"and click OK. Scroll down to
> > "Messenger", select it, right-click and then choose Properties. Under
> > startup type, choose 'Disabled' and then choose the 'Stop' button. After
> the
> > service is stopped, click OK. Nothing in Windows or any real
third-party
> > applications should be effected by this.
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
> I tell you what you /DON'T/ do - follow Jonathan's advice. The /correct/
way
> to eliminate this nuisance is below: -
>
> The ports in question (137-139) are also used for more nefarious purposes
> (trojans use them to 'phone home'). The only effective way (despite what
Mr
> Kay will tell you) is to install a firewall. The native
> one will work at a pinch, though it only works one way (incoming not
> outgoing). Disabling the service is like sweeping bills under the carpet -
> you can't see them anymore but, if you don't deal with them the
consequences
> could be serious.
>
> Install a firewall, configure it to block those ports, and rest, safe in
the
> knowledge that nothing can attack your computer.
>
> --
> Cassandra
> Card carrying member of the Fresh Start Club 'The Undead Are People Too!'
>
> Reply address is fake. Please send all praise, abuse, insults, bequests
> of £1million to cassandra (at) craigy34 (dot) freeserve (dot) co (dot)
> uk. Change the obvious to the obvious.
> Private requests for assistance will not be acknowledged. Please post all
> correspondence to the group so that all may benefit. Thank you.
>
>

Dan
December 5th 03, 02:48 PM
Jonathan's advice is correct for stopping messenger service pop-ups.

"Amethyst" > wrote in message news:bcssh9$lj0>
> I tell you what you /DON'T/ do - follow Jonathan's advice. The /correct/
way
> to eliminate this nuisance is below: -
>

Amethyst
December 5th 03, 02:48 PM
Dan wrote:
> Jonathan's advice is correct for stopping messenger service pop-ups.
>
> "Amethyst" > wrote in message news:bcssh9$lj0>
>> I tell you what you /DON'T/ do - follow Jonathan's advice. The /correct/
way
>> to eliminate this nuisance is below: -

No it is not - you'd believe anyone who had some meaningless letters after
their name, wouldn't you? There is nothing to stop me from sticking the
letters RCVS after my name and opening a vetinary clinic.

I repeat - Jonathan's advice may be correct as far as masking the problem,
but it is /NOT/ the solution. Ports 137, 138 and 139 are open and turning
off the service is like trying to mend a broken leg with a sticking plaster.
I have worked in the industry for 12 years - Jonathan was still in first
grade then. I know full well what the solution is - but why should I care?
Just don't come crying to me when you're hacked.


--
Cassandra
Card carrying member of the Fresh Start Club 'The Undead Are People Too!'

Reply address is fake. Please send all praise, abuse, insults, bequests
of £1million to cassandra (at) craigy34 (dot) freeserve (dot) co (dot)
uk. Change the obvious to the obvious.
Private requests for assistance will not be acknowledged. Please post all
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Erik
December 5th 03, 02:48 PM
Why do you lie? About the only place you have ever been is the looney bin.I
dare you to hack me those ports are open here. Do it. You can't. Darn. Go
away. Jonathan Kay is telling the correct way to solve the problem. Go meet
up with Gibson and see what else you guys can panic about!

--
Carpe Diem

Erik

"Amethyst" > wrote in message
...
> Dan wrote:
> > Jonathan's advice is correct for stopping messenger service pop-ups.
> >
> > "Amethyst" > wrote in message news:bcssh9$lj0>
> >> I tell you what you /DON'T/ do - follow Jonathan's advice. The
/correct/
> way
> >> to eliminate this nuisance is below: -
>
> No it is not - you'd believe anyone who had some meaningless letters after
> their name, wouldn't you? There is nothing to stop me from sticking the
> letters RCVS after my name and opening a vetinary clinic.
>
> I repeat - Jonathan's advice may be correct as far as masking the problem,
> but it is /NOT/ the solution. Ports 137, 138 and 139 are open and turning
> off the service is like trying to mend a broken leg with a sticking
plaster.
> I have worked in the industry for 12 years - Jonathan was still in first
> grade then. I know full well what the solution is - but why should I care?
> Just don't come crying to me when you're hacked.
>
>
> --
> Cassandra
> Card carrying member of the Fresh Start Club 'The Undead Are People Too!'
>
> Reply address is fake. Please send all praise, abuse, insults, bequests
> of £1million to cassandra (at) craigy34 (dot) freeserve (dot) co (dot)
> uk. Change the obvious to the obvious.
> Private requests for assistance will not be acknowledged. Please post all
> correspondence to the group so that all may benefit. Thank you.
>
>

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