MSN Voice Chat behind router firewall

[Brendan McNeill]

Hi,

I'm wondering if you could give me some advice. I have
just purchased a Dlink DSL-504 router with 4 port switch
built in and am wanting to know if I can use MSN Messenger
5.0 on Windows 98 and Windows Messenger on XP to voice
chat with people? I know there has been advice saying
that the router needs to be UPnP capable in order to use
voice chat, but is there a way to enable voice chat while
being behind a hardware firewall. My router doesn't
support UPnP.

I can pinhole some ports but am unsure what ones need to
be used for this. I have heard the ports are 6891 - 6900
to enable file send; 6901 to enable voice communication.
You also have to trigger ports 1863 and 5190. Is this
true.

I don't want to have to purchase another router because of
this.

Cheers,
Brendan.

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Greetings Brendan,

Unfortunately without UPnP support, you won't be able to use voice support through your
router using MSN Messenger 5. You can open and forward every port, it simply won't work
(unless D-Link has added some type of built-in Messenger support). As well, for
clarification, port 6901 for voice hasn't been used since version 3 (since we're at version 6
now, this is VERY outdated information).

Regardless, you might try using MSN Messenger 6 (on both XP and Windows 98) to get around
this problem (your contacts will also need to use it, although you'll probably find a number
of them are):
http://messenger.msn.com/download/v6preview.asp?client=1
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Brendan McNeill" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
>
> I'm wondering if you could give me some advice. I have
> just purchased a Dlink DSL-504 router with 4 port switch
> built in and am wanting to know if I can use MSN Messenger
> 5.0 on Windows 98 and Windows Messenger on XP to voice
> chat with people? I know there has been advice saying
> that the router needs to be UPnP capable in order to use
> voice chat, but is there a way to enable voice chat while
> being behind a hardware firewall. My router doesn't
> support UPnP.
>
> I can pinhole some ports but am unsure what ones need to
> be used for this. I have heard the ports are 6891 - 6900
> to enable file send; 6901 to enable voice communication.
> You also have to trigger ports 1863 and 5190. Is this
> true.
>
> I don't want to have to purchase another router because of
> this.
>
> Cheers,
> Brendan.
>
>

[Inferno]

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in
:

> Greetings Brendan,
>
> Unfortunately without UPnP support, you won't be able to use voice
> support through your router using MSN Messenger 5. You can open and
> forward every port, it simply won't work (unless D-Link has added some
> type of built-in Messenger support). As well, for clarification, port
> 6901 for voice hasn't been used since version 3 (since we're at version
> 6 now, this is VERY outdated information).
>
> Regardless, you might try using MSN Messenger 6 (on both XP and Windows
> 98) to get around this problem (your contacts will also need to use it,
> although you'll probably find a number of them are):
> http://messenger.msn.com/download/v6preview.asp?client=1
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Windows MVP, Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
> "Brendan McNeill" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm wondering if you could give me some advice. I have
>> just purchased a Dlink DSL-504 router with 4 port switch
>> built in and am wanting to know if I can use MSN Messenger
>> 5.0 on Windows 98 and Windows Messenger on XP to voice
>> chat with people? I know there has been advice saying
>> that the router needs to be UPnP capable in order to use
>> voice chat, but is there a way to enable voice chat while
>> being behind a hardware firewall. My router doesn't
>> support UPnP.
>>
>> I can pinhole some ports but am unsure what ones need to
>> be used for this. I have heard the ports are 6891 - 6900
>> to enable file send; 6901 to enable voice communication.
>> You also have to trigger ports 1863 and 5190. Is this
>> true.
>>
>> I don't want to have to purchase another router because of
>> this.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Brendan.
>>
>>
>
>
>

im usin a D-Link DSL-504 and it is UPnP,

http://www.thecaretaker.org.uk/routers/dsl504/dsl504.htm
http://www.westnet.com.au/members/vault/drivers.shtm

since your in NZ im not sure if you use the AU software or not, just need a
firmware update to get UPnP

[Brendan McNeill]

>-----Original Message-----
>"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" >
wrote in
:
>
>> Greetings Brendan,
>>
>> Unfortunately without UPnP support, you won't be able
to use voice
>> support through your router using MSN Messenger 5. You
can open and
>> forward every port, it simply won't work (unless D-Link
has added some
>> type of built-in Messenger support). As well, for
clarification, port
>> 6901 for voice hasn't been used since version 3 (since
we're at version
>> 6 now, this is VERY outdated information).
>>
>> Regardless, you might try using MSN Messenger 6 (on
both XP and Windows
>> 98) to get around this problem (your contacts will also
need to use it,
>> although you'll probably find a number of them are):
>> http://messenger.msn.com/download/v6preview.asp?client=1
>> ____________________________________________
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Windows MVP, Messenger
>> Associate Expert
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>
>> "Brendan McNeill" > wrote in
message
>> ...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if you could give me some advice. I have
>>> just purchased a Dlink DSL-504 router with 4 port
switch
>>> built in and am wanting to know if I can use MSN
Messenger
>>> 5.0 on Windows 98 and Windows Messenger on XP to voice
>>> chat with people? I know there has been advice saying
>>> that the router needs to be UPnP capable in order to
use
>>> voice chat, but is there a way to enable voice chat
while
>>> being behind a hardware firewall. My router doesn't
>>> support UPnP.
>>>
>>> I can pinhole some ports but am unsure what ones need
to
>>> be used for this. I have heard the ports are 6891 -
6900
>>> to enable file send; 6901 to enable voice
communication.
>>> You also have to trigger ports 1863 and 5190. Is this
>>> true.
>>>
>>> I don't want to have to purchase another router
because of
>>> this.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Brendan.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>im usin a D-Link DSL-504 and it is UPnP,
>
>http://www.thecaretaker.org.uk/routers/dsl504/dsl504.htm
>http://www.westnet.com.au/members/vault/drivers.shtm
>
>since your in NZ im not sure if you use the AU software
or not, just need a
>firmware update to get UPnP
>.
>

Thanks Inferno,

I phoned DLink Australia yesterday and they informed me
that with the new firmware version the router does support
UPnP (and yes, the firmware does work in NZ). So all I
need to do now is configure it properly.

Cheers,
Brendan.

[Inferno]

"Brendan McNeill" > wrote in message >...
> >-----Original Message-----
> >"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" >
> wrote in
> :
> >
> >> Greetings Brendan,
> >>
> >> Unfortunately without UPnP support, you won't be able
> to use voice
> >> support through your router using MSN Messenger 5. You
> can open and
> >> forward every port, it simply won't work (unless D-Link
> has added some
> >> type of built-in Messenger support). As well, for
> clarification, port
> >> 6901 for voice hasn't been used since version 3 (since
> we're at version
> >> 6 now, this is VERY outdated information).
> >>
> >> Regardless, you might try using MSN Messenger 6 (on
> both XP and Windows
> >> 98) to get around this problem (your contacts will also
> need to use it,
> >> although you'll probably find a number of them are):
> >> http://messenger.msn.com/download/v6preview.asp?client=1
> >> ____________________________________________
> >> Jonathan Kay
> >> Windows MVP, Messenger
> >> Associate Expert
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >>
> >> "Brendan McNeill" > wrote in
> message
> >> ...
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I'm wondering if you could give me some advice. I have
> >>> just purchased a Dlink DSL-504 router with 4 port
> switch
> >>> built in and am wanting to know if I can use MSN
> Messenger
> >>> 5.0 on Windows 98 and Windows Messenger on XP to voice
> >>> chat with people? I know there has been advice saying
> >>> that the router needs to be UPnP capable in order to
> use
> >>> voice chat, but is there a way to enable voice chat
> while
> >>> being behind a hardware firewall. My router doesn't
> >>> support UPnP.
> >>>
> >>> I can pinhole some ports but am unsure what ones need
> to
> >>> be used for this. I have heard the ports are 6891 -
> 6900
> >>> to enable file send; 6901 to enable voice
> communication.
> >>> You also have to trigger ports 1863 and 5190. Is this
> >>> true.
> >>>
> >>> I don't want to have to purchase another router
> because of
> >>> this.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Brendan.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >im usin a D-Link DSL-504 and it is UPnP,
> >
> >http://www.thecaretaker.org.uk/routers/dsl504/dsl504.htm
> >http://www.westnet.com.au/members/vault/drivers.shtm
> >
> >since your in NZ im not sure if you use the AU software
> or not, just need a
> >firmware update to get UPnP
> >.
> >
>
> Thanks Inferno,
>
> I phoned DLink Australia yesterday and they informed me
> that with the new firmware version the router does support
> UPnP (and yes, the firmware does work in NZ). So all I
> need to do now is configure it properly.
>
> Cheers,
> Brendan.

FOR ANYONE WHO READS THIS!!

if you figure out how to get it goin give me a shout

im havin trouble with with MSN 6, UPnP is enabled on my router and on
the computer but i still cant get MSN 6 voice to work and i cant get
conference to work either, even though i can get webcam to work

no firewall enabled
DCHP is enabled
NAT is enabled, but DMZ isnt

would it be easier to have the ethernet card auto detect my my IP
configuration or to assign it an IP?