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Neal Crocker
December 5th 03, 03:01 PM
Hello,
I was wondering if anyone can help me. I am using Windows Messenger 4.7.

About a month ago connected up to the internet with ADSL, previously I was
on a dial up connection.
I have a local LAN with 3xPCs (2 with WinXP Pro).
When I had my dialup modem I used internet connection sharing for all PCs
and this worked really well.
I could use MS Messenger with my DV Camera and had heaps of fun.

Now with the new router (Netgear DG814) it became not possible to use video
conferencing.
This was because at that time UPnP was not available. In the last week an
updated firmware was release v4.7 which supports UPnP. (The router is now
displayed in Network Connections).

However when I try again to use Video Conferencing it still doesn't work.
I have the following ports forwarded on my router:

Service Name
Start Port
End Port
Server IP Address

FTP
21
21
192.168.0.2

HTTP
80
80
192.168.0.2

Remote Desktop
3389
3389
192.168.0.2

Messenger
6891
6900
192.168.0.11

NETMEETING
1720
1720
192.168.0.11

NETMEETING
1503
1503
192.168.0.11



The machine I use Messenger on is my main machine with a private IP of
192.168.0.11.

From the documentation that I have read about getting video conferencing to
work (by the way my remote assitance also doesn't work - I think it is the
same issue!)...I have made available the correct ports and forwarded them to
my PC. And as I am using UPnP I was expecting it to work. I have read up on
NAT issues, but I thought UPnP was meant to solve these issues.

Previously with my dialup I could conference with a friend, now I cannot. He
has not changed anything only I have.

In my router I have the following UPnP settings:

Advertisement Period (in minutes)
Advertisement Time To Live (in hops)


Where
Advertisement Period

The Advertisement Period is how often the router will advertise (broadcast)
its UPnP information. This value can range from 1 to 1440 minutes. The
default period is for 30 minutes. Shorter durations will ensure that control
points have current device status at the expense of additional network
traffic. Longer durations may compromise the freshness of the device status
but can significantly reduce network traffic.

Advertisement Time To Live

The time to live for the advertisement is measured in hops (steps) for each
UPnP packet sent. A hop is the number of steps allowed to propagate for each
UPnP advertisement before it disappears. The number of hops can range from 1
to 255. The default value for the advertisement time to live is 4 hops,
which should be fine for most home networks. If you notice that some devices
are not being updated or reached correctly, then it may be necessary to
increase this value a little.

Is there anything that I am missing or forgetting to do? Any assistance
would be appreciated.

Thanks

Regards

Neal.

Spike
December 5th 03, 03:01 PM
Neal

I have a RP614 (netgear)
I nave NO ports forwarded
I let the computer do it for me (look at the UPnP listing in the router
settings)
I also had to turn the UPnP on as it was off by default in the router
settings
The port assignments match the ports listed in the "Internet Connection /
Properties / settings" in the networks settings panel. Running XP.
Hope this will help

Spike

"Neal Crocker" > wrote in message
...
> Hello,
> I was wondering if anyone can help me. I am using Windows Messenger 4.7.
>
> About a month ago connected up to the internet with ADSL, previously I was
> on a dial up connection.
> I have a local LAN with 3xPCs (2 with WinXP Pro).
> When I had my dialup modem I used internet connection sharing for all PCs
> and this worked really well.
> I could use MS Messenger with my DV Camera and had heaps of fun.
>
> Now with the new router (Netgear DG814) it became not possible to use
video
> conferencing.
> This was because at that time UPnP was not available. In the last week an
> updated firmware was release v4.7 which supports UPnP. (The router is now
> displayed in Network Connections).
>
> However when I try again to use Video Conferencing it still doesn't work.
> I have the following ports forwarded on my router:
>
> Service Name
> Start Port
> End Port
> Server IP Address
>
> FTP
> 21
> 21
> 192.168.0.2
>
> HTTP
> 80
> 80
> 192.168.0.2
>
> Remote Desktop
> 3389
> 3389
> 192.168.0.2
>
> Messenger
> 6891
> 6900
> 192.168.0.11
>
> NETMEETING
> 1720
> 1720
> 192.168.0.11
>
> NETMEETING
> 1503
> 1503
> 192.168.0.11
>
>
>
> The machine I use Messenger on is my main machine with a private IP of
> 192.168.0.11.
>
> From the documentation that I have read about getting video conferencing
to
> work (by the way my remote assitance also doesn't work - I think it is the
> same issue!)...I have made available the correct ports and forwarded them
to
> my PC. And as I am using UPnP I was expecting it to work. I have read up
on
> NAT issues, but I thought UPnP was meant to solve these issues.
>
> Previously with my dialup I could conference with a friend, now I cannot.
He
> has not changed anything only I have.
>
> In my router I have the following UPnP settings:
>
> Advertisement Period (in minutes)
> Advertisement Time To Live (in hops)
>
>
> Where
> Advertisement Period
>
> The Advertisement Period is how often the router will advertise
(broadcast)
> its UPnP information. This value can range from 1 to 1440 minutes. The
> default period is for 30 minutes. Shorter durations will ensure that
control
> points have current device status at the expense of additional network
> traffic. Longer durations may compromise the freshness of the device
status
> but can significantly reduce network traffic.
>
> Advertisement Time To Live
>
> The time to live for the advertisement is measured in hops (steps) for
each
> UPnP packet sent. A hop is the number of steps allowed to propagate for
each
> UPnP advertisement before it disappears. The number of hops can range from
1
> to 255. The default value for the advertisement time to live is 4 hops,
> which should be fine for most home networks. If you notice that some
devices
> are not being updated or reached correctly, then it may be necessary to
> increase this value a little.
>
> Is there anything that I am missing or forgetting to do? Any assistance
> would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards
>
> Neal.
>
>
>

Neal Crocker
December 5th 03, 03:01 PM
Thanks Spike,
I tried that with not much luck.
The router still reported that a UPnP device was connecting via TCP Port
5010. But Messenger could not seem to establish the connection. Would
increasing the Hops do anything? What else could it be?
Thanks
Regards
Neal.

"Spike" <Spam_Is_Not > wrote in message
news:A1FKa.82535$%42.51014@fed1read06...
> Neal
>
> I have a RP614 (netgear)
> I nave NO ports forwarded
> I let the computer do it for me (look at the UPnP listing in the router
> settings)
> I also had to turn the UPnP on as it was off by default in the router
> settings
> The port assignments match the ports listed in the "Internet Connection /
> Properties / settings" in the networks settings panel. Running XP.
> Hope this will help
>
> Spike
>
> "Neal Crocker" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hello,
> > I was wondering if anyone can help me. I am using Windows Messenger 4.7.
> >
> > About a month ago connected up to the internet with ADSL, previously I
was
> > on a dial up connection.
> > I have a local LAN with 3xPCs (2 with WinXP Pro).
> > When I had my dialup modem I used internet connection sharing for all
PCs
> > and this worked really well.
> > I could use MS Messenger with my DV Camera and had heaps of fun.
> >
> > Now with the new router (Netgear DG814) it became not possible to use
> video
> > conferencing.
> > This was because at that time UPnP was not available. In the last week
an
> > updated firmware was release v4.7 which supports UPnP. (The router is
now
> > displayed in Network Connections).
> >
> > However when I try again to use Video Conferencing it still doesn't
work.
> > I have the following ports forwarded on my router:
> >
> > Service Name
> > Start Port
> > End Port
> > Server IP Address
> >
> > FTP
> > 21
> > 21
> > 192.168.0.2
> >
> > HTTP
> > 80
> > 80
> > 192.168.0.2
> >
> > Remote Desktop
> > 3389
> > 3389
> > 192.168.0.2
> >
> > Messenger
> > 6891
> > 6900
> > 192.168.0.11
> >
> > NETMEETING
> > 1720
> > 1720
> > 192.168.0.11
> >
> > NETMEETING
> > 1503
> > 1503
> > 192.168.0.11
> >
> >
> >
> > The machine I use Messenger on is my main machine with a private IP of
> > 192.168.0.11.
> >
> > From the documentation that I have read about getting video conferencing
> to
> > work (by the way my remote assitance also doesn't work - I think it is
the
> > same issue!)...I have made available the correct ports and forwarded
them
> to
> > my PC. And as I am using UPnP I was expecting it to work. I have read up
> on
> > NAT issues, but I thought UPnP was meant to solve these issues.
> >
> > Previously with my dialup I could conference with a friend, now I
cannot.
> He
> > has not changed anything only I have.
> >
> > In my router I have the following UPnP settings:
> >
> > Advertisement Period (in minutes)
> > Advertisement Time To Live (in hops)
> >
> >
> > Where
> > Advertisement Period
> >
> > The Advertisement Period is how often the router will advertise
> (broadcast)
> > its UPnP information. This value can range from 1 to 1440 minutes. The
> > default period is for 30 minutes. Shorter durations will ensure that
> control
> > points have current device status at the expense of additional network
> > traffic. Longer durations may compromise the freshness of the device
> status
> > but can significantly reduce network traffic.
> >
> > Advertisement Time To Live
> >
> > The time to live for the advertisement is measured in hops (steps) for
> each
> > UPnP packet sent. A hop is the number of steps allowed to propagate for
> each
> > UPnP advertisement before it disappears. The number of hops can range
from
> 1
> > to 255. The default value for the advertisement time to live is 4 hops,
> > which should be fine for most home networks. If you notice that some
> devices
> > are not being updated or reached correctly, then it may be necessary to
> > increase this value a little.
> >
> > Is there anything that I am missing or forgetting to do? Any assistance
> > would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Neal.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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