annoying pop ups

[teri]

how do i stop MESSENGER SERVICE from popping up all the
time?

[Amethyst]

teri wrote:
> how do i stop MESSENGER SERVICE from popping up all the
> time?

Jonathan is giving everyone who asks this question misinformation and I am
going to post the correct reply until he updates his stock response.

You need a firewall. You can either turn on the native one or - for complete
all-round protection - you need to purchase third party protection (I use
Zone Alarm Pro - they have a cut down freeware version which can be
downloaded from www.zonelabs.com). Some folk will tell you to turn off the
Messenger Service (nothing to do with Windows/MSN Messenger) but this is
like sweeping your bills under the rug. You will forget about them (out of
sight is out of mind) but they are still there and the consequences could be
serious if you don't deal with them. Buy a third party firewall (it is more
flexible as it can be configured) and set it to block ports 137-139 and 245
(there may be others, but I don't know of them). This will also prevent
spyware from 'phoning home'.

Just because someone has the letters 'MVP' after their name doesn't make
them anymore 'right' (despite Mr Kay's protestations to the contrary) than
someone who doesn't. Jonathan's answer does nothing whatsoever to cure the
problem, it merely masks the symptoms, like covering up shingles spots with
concealer.


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[Mame du Bois]

Jonathon Kay's replies are based on people asking how to stop the Messenger
Service popups and NOT about overall internet security. He is answering
these questions perfectly well. If people want advice on internet security
then they can see the related newsgroups or consult a proffesional.

I think you should also just take a look at how many replies Mr Kay has to
issue a day and NOT just in this newsgroup. Instead of bitching about his
replies...how about dropping him a friendly line for him to add a footnote
about firewalls.

MdB




"Amethyst" > wrote in message
...
> teri wrote:
> > how do i stop MESSENGER SERVICE from popping up all the
> > time?
>
> Jonathan is giving everyone who asks this question misinformation and I am
> going to post the correct reply until he updates his stock response.
>
> You need a firewall. You can either turn on the native one or - for
complete
> all-round protection - you need to purchase third party protection (I use
> Zone Alarm Pro - they have a cut down freeware version which can be
> downloaded from www.zonelabs.com). Some folk will tell you to turn off the
> Messenger Service (nothing to do with Windows/MSN Messenger) but this is
> like sweeping your bills under the rug. You will forget about them (out of
> sight is out of mind) but they are still there and the consequences could
be
> serious if you don't deal with them. Buy a third party firewall (it is
more
> flexible as it can be configured) and set it to block ports 137-139 and
245
> (there may be others, but I don't know of them). This will also prevent
> spyware from 'phoning home'.
>
> Just because someone has the letters 'MVP' after their name doesn't make
> them anymore 'right' (despite Mr Kay's protestations to the contrary) than
> someone who doesn't. Jonathan's answer does nothing whatsoever to cure the
> problem, it merely masks the symptoms, like covering up shingles spots
with
> concealer.
>
>
> --
> Cassandra
> Card carrying member of the Fresh Start Club 'The Undead Are People Too!'
>
> Reply address is fake. Please send all praise, abuse, insults, bequests
> of £1million to cassandra (at) craigy34 (dot) freeserve (dot) co (dot)
> uk. Change the obvious to the obvious.
> Private requests for assistance will not be acknowledged. Please post all
> correspondence to the group so that all may benefit. Thank you.
>
>

[Amethyst]

Mame du Bois wrote:
> Jonathon Kay's replies are based on people asking how to stop the
Messenger
> Service popups and NOT about overall internet security. He is answering
> these questions perfectly well. If people want advice on internet security
> then they can see the related newsgroups or consult a proffesional.
>
> I think you should also just take a look at how many replies Mr Kay has to
> issue a day and NOT just in this newsgroup. Instead of bitching about his
> replies...how about dropping him a friendly line for him to add a footnote
> about firewalls.
>
> MdB

So are mine and he isn't "answering these questions perfectly well".
Internet security is the WHOLE POINT. The advertisments are merely a symptom
of a hole being exploited. Disabling the messenger service does nothing to
fix the problem it merely masks it. I've been dealing with computers - and
related paraphernalia - since Mr Kay was in kindergarten! You've no idea how
old he is do you? I think I know a tad more about these things than he does.
May I suggest you re-read my reply to learn why disabling the service is
*NOT* a good idea. It's like trying to mend a broken leg with a band aid.

As far as MS newsgroups go, Mr Kay only deals with this one. He is lulling
people into a false sense of security. Yes, disabling the service may
prevent you from seeing the pop-ups but it does nothing to fix the problem.
Spots are a symptom of measles. If you apply calamine to them, they will
disappear, but calamine does nothing to kill the measles virus. Turning off
the messenger service is the computing equivalent of applying calamine to
measles spots and doing nothing about the underlying virus. Is that a better
analogy for you?

I repeat *THE ONLY WAY TO DEAL WITH THESE ADVERTISEMENTS IS TO INSTALL AND
CONFIGURE A FIREWALL*.


If you want to leave glaring holes in your internet security, and leave your
system open to all sorts of nasties then, by all means, follow Mr Kay's
advice...Me? I prefer the security of knowing that not only will I no longer
be troubled by pop-ups, but that the underlying security risk is also taken
care of.

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Cassandra
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[Mame du Bois]

Like I said...he is being asked how to stop messenger popups and he is
answering that. The only reason people are lazy and naive about internet
security is just that...they are being lazy...They buy a computer with an OS
preinstalled and turn it on and off they go. Jonathon is not responsible for
peoples laziness. Too many people are not taking responsibility for their
own computers. Even the most basic of research into computers would reveal
that antivirus and fiewalls are a must. But most people couldnt be bothered
even picking up a copy of Computers for Dummies. This is as crazy as not
learning to change a tyre and change the oil in a car (have you checked
your oil lately Amethyst?) And anyway, I am not disagreeing with
you....people need firewalls. But a friendly little note to Mr Kay would
have been a lot better than berating him in the newsgroups. Along with your
wealth of computer knowledge maybe you should learn some manners.

MdB


"Amethyst" > wrote in message
...
> Mame du Bois wrote:
> > Jonathon Kay's replies are based on people asking how to stop the
> Messenger
> > Service popups and NOT about overall internet security. He is answering
> > these questions perfectly well. If people want advice on internet
security
> > then they can see the related newsgroups or consult a proffesional.
> >
> > I think you should also just take a look at how many replies Mr Kay has
to
> > issue a day and NOT just in this newsgroup. Instead of bitching about
his
> > replies...how about dropping him a friendly line for him to add a
footnote
> > about firewalls.
> >
> > MdB
>
> So are mine and he isn't "answering these questions perfectly well".
> Internet security is the WHOLE POINT. The advertisments are merely a
symptom
> of a hole being exploited. Disabling the messenger service does nothing to
> fix the problem it merely masks it. I've been dealing with computers - and
> related paraphernalia - since Mr Kay was in kindergarten! You've no idea
how
> old he is do you? I think I know a tad more about these things than he
does.
> May I suggest you re-read my reply to learn why disabling the service is
> *NOT* a good idea. It's like trying to mend a broken leg with a band aid.
>
> As far as MS newsgroups go, Mr Kay only deals with this one. He is lulling
> people into a false sense of security. Yes, disabling the service may
> prevent you from seeing the pop-ups but it does nothing to fix the
problem.
> Spots are a symptom of measles. If you apply calamine to them, they will
> disappear, but calamine does nothing to kill the measles virus. Turning
off
> the messenger service is the computing equivalent of applying calamine to
> measles spots and doing nothing about the underlying virus. Is that a
better
> analogy for you?
>
> I repeat *THE ONLY WAY TO DEAL WITH THESE ADVERTISEMENTS IS TO INSTALL AND
> CONFIGURE A FIREWALL*.
>
>
> If you want to leave glaring holes in your internet security, and leave
your
> system open to all sorts of nasties then, by all means, follow Mr Kay's
> advice...Me? I prefer the security of knowing that not only will I no
longer
> be troubled by pop-ups, but that the underlying security risk is also
taken
> care of.
>
> --�
> Cassandra
> Card carrying member of the Fresh Start Club 'The Undead Are People Too!'
>
> Reply address is fake. Please send all praise, abuse, insults, bequests
> of £1million to cassandra (at) craigy34 (dot) freeserve (dot) co (dot)
> uk. Change the obvious to the obvious.
> Private requests for assistance will not be acknowledged. Please post all
> correspondence to the group so that all may benefit. Thank you.
>
>