Unable to Login

[Ace]

Hey

Thanks in advance for any suggestions re: this problem

I have been using Win Messenger and OE6 for my Hotmail
for a while now. Suddenly I cannot sign in. OE tells me
my password/username is wrong (even though it isn't )-
and the CaSe of the password is fine too. Also when I
type in my password in the remember password thing, it
fails to remember it all of a sudden. And with Win
Messenger it takes ages trying to sign in then says that
the service is down or there's a problem with my net
connection. The service is not down, I checked. And my
account is still active, I checked that too. Any ideas?

Thanks

Ace

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Greetings Ace,

Here are some suggestions you might want to try/check:
1. The date on your computer needs to be set properly -- double click the clock verify that
the time and date are set.
2. If your password information is not saved, verify that you are typing it in with the
correct case (uppercase or lowercase).
3. Change your password @ http://memberservicesnet.passport.com/memberservice.srf, then try
signing in again.
4. If you use a firewall (like ZoneAlarm, Norton Internet Security etc. ), it's possible
that Messenger doesn't have the correct rights to access the Internet. You may need to
re/add Messenger to the allowed list of programs in your firewall if this is the case.
5. If you disabled your firewall in the past, it still may be blocking Messenger -- try
restarting it and see if that helps the situation. You also might try uninstalling an
installed firewall, to verify that it isn't causing a problem (even if it is disabled).
6. Check your IE Security settings -- open Internet Explorer, click the Tools menu, then
Internet Options, then Advanced tab, scroll to the Security section, and verify that "Check
for server certificate revocation" is unchecked. Also verify that 'Use SSL 2.0' and Use SSL
3.0' is checked, then click OK.
7. Click Start, then Run, and enter the following:
regsvr32 softpub.dll
then click OK
8. Check your IE Internet Zone and cookie settings -- Open Internet Explorer, click the
Tools menu, then Internet Options, then click the Delete Files button, and when that's
complete click the Delete Cookies button. Then, click the Security tab, click Internet
(should already be selected), click the Default Level button, and then click OK.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com


"Ace" > wrote in message
...
> Hey
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions re: this problem
>
> I have been using Win Messenger and OE6 for my Hotmail
> for a while now. Suddenly I cannot sign in. OE tells me
> my password/username is wrong (even though it isn't )-
> and the CaSe of the password is fine too. Also when I
> type in my password in the remember password thing, it
> fails to remember it all of a sudden. And with Win
> Messenger it takes ages trying to sign in then says that
> the service is down or there's a problem with my net
> connection. The service is not down, I checked. And my
> account is still active, I checked that too. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ace

[Ace]

Hi Jon

Thanks a lot for your reply, however I am still having
the same problems.

Going through your list...

1) yes
2) yes
3) yes
4) I use Norton Internet Security 2003. Permit all access
has been given to Win Messenger (although it is listed as
Microsoft MSN Messenger??). I have tried disabling
firewall, to no avail.
5) have tried turning off every security service, and Win
Messenger has full access. uninstalling firewall is a bit
drastic for me, all those settings ;-) if that is the
problem then i'd rather go d/l MSN Messenger and see how
that fares
6) all fine here
7) not tried yet - what does this do?
8) yes

as i say, thanks for your suggestions. any further
pointers would be appreciated, before i am forced to
resort to yet another Microsoft product ;-) believe me,
one is enough lol

Thank you

Ace

>-----Original Message-----
>Greetings Ace,
>
>Here are some suggestions you might want to try/check:
>1. The date on your computer needs to be set properly --
double click the clock verify that
>the time and date are set.
>2. If your password information is not saved, verify
that you are typing it in with the
>correct case (uppercase or lowercase).
>3. Change your password @
http://memberservicesnet.passport.com/memberservice.srf,
then try
>signing in again.
>4. If you use a firewall (like ZoneAlarm, Norton
Internet Security etc. ), it's possible
>that Messenger doesn't have the correct rights to access
the Internet. You may need to
>re/add Messenger to the allowed list of programs in your
firewall if this is the case.
>5. If you disabled your firewall in the past, it still
may be blocking Messenger -- try
>restarting it and see if that helps the situation. You
also might try uninstalling an
>installed firewall, to verify that it isn't causing a
problem (even if it is disabled).
>6. Check your IE Security settings -- open Internet
Explorer, click the Tools menu, then
>Internet Options, then Advanced tab, scroll to the
Security section, and verify that "Check
>for server certificate revocation" is unchecked. Also
verify that 'Use SSL 2.0' and Use SSL
>3.0' is checked, then click OK.
>7. Click Start, then Run, and enter the following:
>regsvr32 softpub.dll
>then click OK
>8. Check your IE Internet Zone and cookie settings --
Open Internet Explorer, click the
>Tools menu, then Internet Options, then click the Delete
Files button, and when that's
>complete click the Delete Cookies button. Then, click
the Security tab, click Internet
>(should already be selected), click the Default Level
button, and then click OK.
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
>"Ace" > wrote in message
...
>> Hey
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions re: this problem
>>
>> I have been using Win Messenger and OE6 for my Hotmail
>> for a while now. Suddenly I cannot sign in. OE tells me
>> my password/username is wrong (even though it isn't )-
>> and the CaSe of the password is fine too. Also when I
>> type in my password in the remember password thing, it
>> fails to remember it all of a sudden. And with Win
>> Messenger it takes ages trying to sign in then says
that
>> the service is down or there's a problem with my net
>> connection. The service is not down, I checked. And my
>> account is still active, I checked that too. Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ace
>
>
>.
>

[Ace]

Hi Jon

Thanks a lot for your reply, however I am still having
the same problems.

Going through your list...

1) yes
2) yes
3) yes
4) I use Norton Internet Security 2003. Permit all access
has been given to Win Messenger (although it is listed as
Microsoft MSN Messenger??). I have tried disabling
firewall, to no avail.
5) have tried turning off every security service, and Win
Messenger has full access. uninstalling firewall is a bit
drastic for me, all those settings ;-) if that is the
problem then i'd rather go d/l MSN Messenger and see how
that fares
6) all fine here
7) not tried yet - what does this do?
8) yes

as i say, thanks for your suggestions. any further
pointers would be appreciated, before i am forced to
resort to yet another Microsoft product ;-) believe me,
one is enough lol

Thank you

Ace

>-----Original Message-----
>Greetings Ace,
>
>Here are some suggestions you might want to try/check:
>1. The date on your computer needs to be set properly --
double click the clock verify that
>the time and date are set.
>2. If your password information is not saved, verify
that you are typing it in with the
>correct case (uppercase or lowercase).
>3. Change your password @
http://memberservicesnet.passport.com/memberservice.srf,
then try
>signing in again.
>4. If you use a firewall (like ZoneAlarm, Norton
Internet Security etc. ), it's possible
>that Messenger doesn't have the correct rights to access
the Internet. You may need to
>re/add Messenger to the allowed list of programs in your
firewall if this is the case.
>5. If you disabled your firewall in the past, it still
may be blocking Messenger -- try
>restarting it and see if that helps the situation. You
also might try uninstalling an
>installed firewall, to verify that it isn't causing a
problem (even if it is disabled).
>6. Check your IE Security settings -- open Internet
Explorer, click the Tools menu, then
>Internet Options, then Advanced tab, scroll to the
Security section, and verify that "Check
>for server certificate revocation" is unchecked. Also
verify that 'Use SSL 2.0' and Use SSL
>3.0' is checked, then click OK.
>7. Click Start, then Run, and enter the following:
>regsvr32 softpub.dll
>then click OK
>8. Check your IE Internet Zone and cookie settings --
Open Internet Explorer, click the
>Tools menu, then Internet Options, then click the Delete
Files button, and when that's
>complete click the Delete Cookies button. Then, click
the Security tab, click Internet
>(should already be selected), click the Default Level
button, and then click OK.
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
>"Ace" > wrote in message
...
>> Hey
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions re: this problem
>>
>> I have been using Win Messenger and OE6 for my Hotmail
>> for a while now. Suddenly I cannot sign in. OE tells me
>> my password/username is wrong (even though it isn't )-
>> and the CaSe of the password is fine too. Also when I
>> type in my password in the remember password thing, it
>> fails to remember it all of a sudden. And with Win
>> Messenger it takes ages trying to sign in then says
that
>> the service is down or there's a problem with my net
>> connection. The service is not down, I checked. And my
>> account is still active, I checked that too. Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ace
>
>
>.
>
..

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Ace,

4 -- MSN Messenger 4 and Windows Messenger 4 actually were the same product (the same
executable file), this is why you're seeing it listed as MSN Messenger.

7 -- Basically this reinstalls the primarily SSL component, which Messenger utilizes (for
Passport).

If Windows Messenger doesn't work, it's highly unlikely that MSN Messenger will, I'd also
encourage you to perhaps try using a different Messenger client (say, Trillian --
http://www.trillian.cc) or attempt to sign in using a different computer.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com


"Ace" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Jon
>
> Thanks a lot for your reply, however I am still having
> the same problems.
>
> Going through your list...
>
> 1) yes
> 2) yes
> 3) yes
> 4) I use Norton Internet Security 2003. Permit all access
> has been given to Win Messenger (although it is listed as
> Microsoft MSN Messenger??). I have tried disabling
> firewall, to no avail.
> 5) have tried turning off every security service, and Win
> Messenger has full access. uninstalling firewall is a bit
> drastic for me, all those settings ;-) if that is the
> problem then i'd rather go d/l MSN Messenger and see how
> that fares
> 6) all fine here
> 7) not tried yet - what does this do?
> 8) yes
>
> as i say, thanks for your suggestions. any further
> pointers would be appreciated, before i am forced to
> resort to yet another Microsoft product ;-) believe me,
> one is enough lol
>
> Thank you
>
> Ace
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Greetings Ace,
> >
> >Here are some suggestions you might want to try/check:
> >1. The date on your computer needs to be set properly --
> double click the clock verify that
> >the time and date are set.
> >2. If your password information is not saved, verify
> that you are typing it in with the
> >correct case (uppercase or lowercase).
> >3. Change your password @
> http://memberservicesnet.passport.com/memberservice.srf,
> then try
> >signing in again.
> >4. If you use a firewall (like ZoneAlarm, Norton
> Internet Security etc. ), it's possible
> >that Messenger doesn't have the correct rights to access
> the Internet. You may need to
> >re/add Messenger to the allowed list of programs in your
> firewall if this is the case.
> >5. If you disabled your firewall in the past, it still
> may be blocking Messenger -- try
> >restarting it and see if that helps the situation. You
> also might try uninstalling an
> >installed firewall, to verify that it isn't causing a
> problem (even if it is disabled).
> >6. Check your IE Security settings -- open Internet
> Explorer, click the Tools menu, then
> >Internet Options, then Advanced tab, scroll to the
> Security section, and verify that "Check
> >for server certificate revocation" is unchecked. Also
> verify that 'Use SSL 2.0' and Use SSL
> >3.0' is checked, then click OK.
> >7. Click Start, then Run, and enter the following:
> >regsvr32 softpub.dll
> >then click OK
> >8. Check your IE Internet Zone and cookie settings --
> Open Internet Explorer, click the
> >Tools menu, then Internet Options, then click the Delete
> Files button, and when that's
> >complete click the Delete Cookies button. Then, click
> the Security tab, click Internet
> >(should already be selected), click the Default Level
> button, and then click OK.
> >____________________________________________
> >Jonathan Kay
> >Windows MVP, Messenger
> >Associate Expert
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >
> >"Ace" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Hey
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance for any suggestions re: this problem
> >>
> >> I have been using Win Messenger and OE6 for my Hotmail
> >> for a while now. Suddenly I cannot sign in. OE tells me
> >> my password/username is wrong (even though it isn't )-
> >> and the CaSe of the password is fine too. Also when I
> >> type in my password in the remember password thing, it
> >> fails to remember it all of a sudden. And with Win
> >> Messenger it takes ages trying to sign in then says
> that
> >> the service is down or there's a problem with my net
> >> connection. The service is not down, I checked. And my
> >> account is still active, I checked that too. Any ideas?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Ace
> >
> >
> >.
> >
> .
>

[Ace]

Hi Jonathan

Thanks a lot for that, I will try step 7 and if that
doesn't work i'll just use a different IM client for the
time being. I have used trillian before, but favoured
Windows Messenger. Oh well ;)

Thanks a lot for your help, I really do applaud you on
your efforts. You only have to look down the list here to
see the effort you put in, and I wish you all the best
because of that.

Best regards,

Ace

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Ace,
>
>4 -- MSN Messenger 4 and Windows Messenger 4 actually
were the same product (the same
>executable file), this is why you're seeing it listed as
MSN Messenger.
>
>7 -- Basically this reinstalls the primarily SSL
component, which Messenger utilizes (for
>Passport).
>
>If Windows Messenger doesn't work, it's highly unlikely
that MSN Messenger will, I'd also
>encourage you to perhaps try using a different Messenger
client (say, Trillian --
>http://www.trillian.cc) or attempt to sign in using a
different computer.
>____________________________________________
>Jonathan Kay
>Windows MVP, Messenger
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
>
>"Ace" > wrote in message
...
>> Hi Jon
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your reply, however I am still having
>> the same problems.
>>
>> Going through your list...
>>
>> 1) yes
>> 2) yes
>> 3) yes
>> 4) I use Norton Internet Security 2003. Permit all
access
>> has been given to Win Messenger (although it is listed
as
>> Microsoft MSN Messenger??). I have tried disabling
>> firewall, to no avail.
>> 5) have tried turning off every security service, and
Win
>> Messenger has full access. uninstalling firewall is a
bit
>> drastic for me, all those settings ;-) if that is the
>> problem then i'd rather go d/l MSN Messenger and see
how
>> that fares
>> 6) all fine here
>> 7) not tried yet - what does this do?
>> 8) yes
>>
>> as i say, thanks for your suggestions. any further
>> pointers would be appreciated, before i am forced to
>> resort to yet another Microsoft product ;-) believe me,
>> one is enough lol
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Ace
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Greetings Ace,
>> >
>> >Here are some suggestions you might want to try/check:
>> >1. The date on your computer needs to be set
properly --
>> double click the clock verify that
>> >the time and date are set.
>> >2. If your password information is not saved, verify
>> that you are typing it in with the
>> >correct case (uppercase or lowercase).
>> >3. Change your password @
>>
http://memberservicesnet.passport.com/memberservice.srf,
>> then try
>> >signing in again.
>> >4. If you use a firewall (like ZoneAlarm, Norton
>> Internet Security etc. ), it's possible
>> >that Messenger doesn't have the correct rights to
access
>> the Internet. You may need to
>> >re/add Messenger to the allowed list of programs in
your
>> firewall if this is the case.
>> >5. If you disabled your firewall in the past, it
still
>> may be blocking Messenger -- try
>> >restarting it and see if that helps the situation.
You
>> also might try uninstalling an
>> >installed firewall, to verify that it isn't causing a
>> problem (even if it is disabled).
>> >6. Check your IE Security settings -- open Internet
>> Explorer, click the Tools menu, then
>> >Internet Options, then Advanced tab, scroll to the
>> Security section, and verify that "Check
>> >for server certificate revocation" is unchecked. Also
>> verify that 'Use SSL 2.0' and Use SSL
>> >3.0' is checked, then click OK.
>> >7. Click Start, then Run, and enter the following:
>> >regsvr32 softpub.dll
>> >then click OK
>> >8. Check your IE Internet Zone and cookie settings --

>> Open Internet Explorer, click the
>> >Tools menu, then Internet Options, then click the
Delete
>> Files button, and when that's
>> >complete click the Delete Cookies button. Then, click
>> the Security tab, click Internet
>> >(should already be selected), click the Default Level
>> button, and then click OK.
>> >____________________________________________
>> >Jonathan Kay
>> >Windows MVP, Messenger
>> >Associate Expert
>> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> >
>> >
>> >"Ace" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> Hey
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance for any suggestions re: this
problem
>> >>
>> >> I have been using Win Messenger and OE6 for my
Hotmail
>> >> for a while now. Suddenly I cannot sign in. OE
tells me
>> >> my password/username is wrong (even though it
isn't )-
>> >> and the CaSe of the password is fine too. Also when
I
>> >> type in my password in the remember password thing,
it
>> >> fails to remember it all of a sudden. And with Win
>> >> Messenger it takes ages trying to sign in then says
>> that
>> >> the service is down or there's a problem with my net
>> >> connection. The service is not down, I checked. And
my
>> >> account is still active, I checked that too. Any
ideas?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Ace
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>> .
>>
>
>
>.
>

[Jonathan Kay [MVP]]

Hi Ace,

Thanks for the comments, most appreciated =).

Let me know how it works out...
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Ace" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Jonathan
>
> Thanks a lot for that, I will try step 7 and if that
> doesn't work i'll just use a different IM client for the
> time being. I have used trillian before, but favoured
> Windows Messenger. Oh well ;)
>
> Thanks a lot for your help, I really do applaud you on
> your efforts. You only have to look down the list here to
> see the effort you put in, and I wish you all the best
> because of that.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ace
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hi Ace,
> >
> >4 -- MSN Messenger 4 and Windows Messenger 4 actually
> were the same product (the same
> >executable file), this is why you're seeing it listed as
> MSN Messenger.
> >
> >7 -- Basically this reinstalls the primarily SSL
> component, which Messenger utilizes (for
> >Passport).
> >
> >If Windows Messenger doesn't work, it's highly unlikely
> that MSN Messenger will, I'd also
> >encourage you to perhaps try using a different Messenger
> client (say, Trillian --
> >http://www.trillian.cc) or attempt to sign in using a
> different computer.
> >____________________________________________
> >Jonathan Kay
> >Windows MVP, Messenger
> >Associate Expert
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> >
> >"Ace" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Hi Jon
> >>
> >> Thanks a lot for your reply, however I am still having
> >> the same problems.
> >>
> >> Going through your list...
> >>
> >> 1) yes
> >> 2) yes
> >> 3) yes
> >> 4) I use Norton Internet Security 2003. Permit all
> access
> >> has been given to Win Messenger (although it is listed
> as
> >> Microsoft MSN Messenger??). I have tried disabling
> >> firewall, to no avail.
> >> 5) have tried turning off every security service, and
> Win
> >> Messenger has full access. uninstalling firewall is a
> bit
> >> drastic for me, all those settings ;-) if that is the
> >> problem then i'd rather go d/l MSN Messenger and see
> how
> >> that fares
> >> 6) all fine here
> >> 7) not tried yet - what does this do?
> >> 8) yes
> >>
> >> as i say, thanks for your suggestions. any further
> >> pointers would be appreciated, before i am forced to
> >> resort to yet another Microsoft product ;-) believe me,
> >> one is enough lol
> >>
> >> Thank you
> >>
> >> Ace
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Greetings Ace,
> >> >
> >> >Here are some suggestions you might want to try/check:
> >> >1. The date on your computer needs to be set
> properly --
> >> double click the clock verify that
> >> >the time and date are set.
> >> >2. If your password information is not saved, verify
> >> that you are typing it in with the
> >> >correct case (uppercase or lowercase).
> >> >3. Change your password @
> >>
> http://memberservicesnet.passport.com/memberservice.srf,
> >> then try
> >> >signing in again.
> >> >4. If you use a firewall (like ZoneAlarm, Norton
> >> Internet Security etc. ), it's possible
> >> >that Messenger doesn't have the correct rights to
> access
> >> the Internet. You may need to
> >> >re/add Messenger to the allowed list of programs in
> your
> >> firewall if this is the case.
> >> >5. If you disabled your firewall in the past, it
> still
> >> may be blocking Messenger -- try
> >> >restarting it and see if that helps the situation.
> You
> >> also might try uninstalling an
> >> >installed firewall, to verify that it isn't causing a
> >> problem (even if it is disabled).
> >> >6. Check your IE Security settings -- open Internet
> >> Explorer, click the Tools menu, then
> >> >Internet Options, then Advanced tab, scroll to the
> >> Security section, and verify that "Check
> >> >for server certificate revocation" is unchecked. Also
> >> verify that 'Use SSL 2.0' and Use SSL
> >> >3.0' is checked, then click OK.
> >> >7. Click Start, then Run, and enter the following:
> >> >regsvr32 softpub.dll
> >> >then click OK
> >> >8. Check your IE Internet Zone and cookie settings --
>
> >> Open Internet Explorer, click the
> >> >Tools menu, then Internet Options, then click the
> Delete
> >> Files button, and when that's
> >> >complete click the Delete Cookies button. Then, click
> >> the Security tab, click Internet
> >> >(should already be selected), click the Default Level
> >> button, and then click OK.
> >> >____________________________________________
> >> >Jonathan Kay
> >> >Windows MVP, Messenger
> >> >Associate Expert
> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >> >Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Ace" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> Hey
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks in advance for any suggestions re: this
> problem
> >> >>
> >> >> I have been using Win Messenger and OE6 for my
> Hotmail
> >> >> for a while now. Suddenly I cannot sign in. OE
> tells me
> >> >> my password/username is wrong (even though it
> isn't )-
> >> >> and the CaSe of the password is fine too. Also when
> I
> >> >> type in my password in the remember password thing,
> it
> >> >> fails to remember it all of a sudden. And with Win
> >> >> Messenger it takes ages trying to sign in then says
> >> that
> >> >> the service is down or there's a problem with my net
> >> >> connection. The service is not down, I checked. And
> my
> >> >> account is still active, I checked that too. Any
> ideas?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> Ace
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >> .
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[Athena [MVP]]

I don't know if it will help you but for over 2 months, I was unable to use
one of my passports with any version of Wiindows Messenger later than
4.7.0041. I updated the firmware to my Microsoft broadband gateway today
and suddenly that passport is working fine with updated versions of WM.

"Ace" > wrote in message
...
> Hey
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions re: this problem
>
> I have been using Win Messenger and OE6 for my Hotmail
> for a while now. Suddenly I cannot sign in. OE tells me
> my password/username is wrong (even though it isn't )-
> and the CaSe of the password is fine too. Also when I
> type in my password in the remember password thing, it
> fails to remember it all of a sudden. And with Win
> Messenger it takes ages trying to sign in then says that
> the service is down or there's a problem with my net
> connection. The service is not down, I checked. And my
> account is still active, I checked that too. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ace