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John
December 5th 03, 04:25 PM
I have a problem that seems like it should be solvable, but so far
we've been unsuccessful in doing so. I'm trying to use Messenger or
ICQ to establish a direct connection between an XP machine and a Win98
machine, each behind a Linksys BEFW11S4 router. Both routers are
using the latest (1.44.2z) firmware. Both routers have UPnP enabled.
On the XP machine, we have UPnP installed and enabled. On the Win98
machine, we have DirectX 9b installed (which somewhere I read enables
UPnP on Win98).

We've successfully established a direct connection between the
machines (tested using the ICQ Chat and ICQ File Transfer functions)
by placing both machines in their respective DMZs. However, we can't
make the direct connection work when they're out of the DMZ.

Any ideas? Is Messenger or ICQ better for this purpose?

Jonathan Kay [MVP]
December 5th 03, 04:32 PM
Greetings John,

Firstly, to send files, you'll need to upgrade to either Windows Messenger 5 or MSN Messenger
6 (your contact will need MSN Messenger 6 because Windows Messenger 5 is only available on
Windows 2000 and XP) which has UPnP enabled file transfer.

Voice however, should work, make sure both you and your contact have gone through the Audio
(and Video) Tuning Wizard in Messenger. To do so, open the main Messenger window, click the
Tools menu, then Audio Tuning Wizard, then go through the wizard to select and test your
audio/video devices.

Then, both you should verify that the Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall isn't on --
click Start, then click the Control Panel. If you're in category view click Network and
Internet connections then click Network Connections. Right click your network/internet
connection, then click Properties. Click the Advanced Tab, and verify that the Internet
Connection Firewall is unchecked. As well, if your contact is using some type of third-party
firewall (ZoneAlarm, Norton Internet Security, etc.) have them make sure that Messenger is
set to "Permit All", "Allow All" or "Medium" (ZoneAlarm).

If that's not the case, with UPnP support), you may need to remove the current port
forwardings. To do so, click Start, All Programs, Accessories, Communications, Network
Connections. Right-click the "Internet Gateway" (should be under the Internet Gateway
heading) and choose Properties. Choose the Settings button, click each 'msmsgs' or 'msnmsgr'
entry and then choose 'Delete' to each one. Then close Messenger (right-click the Messenger
icon, choose Exit), then restart Messenger.

Finally, you might try turning off the QoS Packet Scheduler. To do so, click Start, then
click the Control Panel. If you're in category view click Network and Internet connections
then click Network Connections. Right click your network/internet connection, then click
Properties. Uncheck the QoS Packet Scheduler, then reboot and try again.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com


"John" > wrote in message
om...
> I have a problem that seems like it should be solvable, but so far
> we've been unsuccessful in doing so. I'm trying to use Messenger or
> ICQ to establish a direct connection between an XP machine and a Win98
> machine, each behind a Linksys BEFW11S4 router. Both routers are
> using the latest (1.44.2z) firmware. Both routers have UPnP enabled.
> On the XP machine, we have UPnP installed and enabled. On the Win98
> machine, we have DirectX 9b installed (which somewhere I read enables
> UPnP on Win98).
>
> We've successfully established a direct connection between the
> machines (tested using the ICQ Chat and ICQ File Transfer functions)
> by placing both machines in their respective DMZs. However, we can't
> make the direct connection work when they're out of the DMZ.
>
> Any ideas? Is Messenger or ICQ better for this purpose?

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