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Mike Scott
December 5th 03, 04:25 PM
As <subject>, forgive me for asking this maybe silly question, but, what are
the differences between Windows Messenger (I believe is supplied with XP
Pro.) and MSN Messenger? Am I correct is saying I already have Windows
Messenger (I have Win XP Pro.). Which one should I use?

Thanks in advance.

Mykyl
December 5th 03, 04:25 PM
I would like that answered as well. Its a bit confusing. My Dad has WinXP
pro and I have the home edition. Using MSN messenger 6 we cannot do a video
conference or audio only but we can use webcam and see each other. I have
seen no proper reply as to why this isssue is happening. (No routers and
firewalls even switched off completely to test with the same problem)

Cheers

Mike R
"Mike Scott" > wrote in message
...
> As <subject>, forgive me for asking this maybe silly question, but, what
are
> the differences between Windows Messenger (I believe is supplied with XP
> Pro.) and MSN Messenger? Am I correct is saying I already have Windows
> Messenger (I have Win XP Pro.). Which one should I use?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>


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Jonathan Kay [MVP]
December 5th 03, 04:26 PM
Greetings Mike,

Which one you use is entirely up to you -- however, here are some of the differences.

Most notably, MSN Messenger 6 has support for display pictures, custom emoticons, has a
different interface, etc. whereas Windows Messenger supports SIP-based communications
services, Exchange IM Server, etc. Which one you use is up to you, and a matter of personal
choice (and based upon your needs and likes), however one thing to keep in mind, Windows
Messenger must still be installed on Windows XP in order for MSN Messenger to retain full
functionality (Remote Assistance, Whiteboard, Application Sharing, etc.).

MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member Profiles, MSN
Mobile, etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered around Windows technologies (Exchange
Server, Greenwich/RTC Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.).

Both clients however can make use of Microsoft technologies, like the .NET Messenger service
and .NET Passport.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"Mike Scott" > wrote in message
...
> As <subject>, forgive me for asking this maybe silly question, but, what are
> the differences between Windows Messenger (I believe is supplied with XP
> Pro.) and MSN Messenger? Am I correct is saying I already have Windows
> Messenger (I have Win XP Pro.). Which one should I use?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>

No Spam
December 5th 03, 04:26 PM
Hi Jonathan,

Does it mean that:
1. Text-chat is possible between MSN & Windows Messenger?
2. Voice chat is possible between MSN & Windows Messenger?
3. Webcam chat is possible between MSN & Windows Messenger?
4. Files can be sent up & down between MSN & Windows Messenger?

What exactly is meant by "support for display pictures"?

B.T.W. There is a new version 5.0 available.
But it still has not the possibility to login with the "appear offline"
status.
I know that there is a workaround (blocking contacts) but that is too time
consuming for me and my numerous contacts.
We would all have to block all our contacts before to logoff.
It is the only reason why we still do not use Messenger, which is apart from
that shortcoming a wonderful program.


"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings Mike,
>
> Which one you use is entirely up to you -- however, here are some of the
differences.
>
> Most notably, MSN Messenger 6 has support for display pictures, custom
emoticons, has a
> different interface, etc. whereas Windows Messenger supports SIP-based
communications
> services, Exchange IM Server, etc. Which one you use is up to you, and a
matter of personal
> choice (and based upon your needs and likes), however one thing to keep in
mind, Windows
> Messenger must still be installed on Windows XP in order for MSN Messenger
to retain full
> functionality (Remote Assistance, Whiteboard, Application Sharing, etc.).
>
> MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member
Profiles, MSN
> Mobile, etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered around Windows
technologies (Exchange
> Server, Greenwich/RTC Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.).
>
> Both clients however can make use of Microsoft technologies, like the .NET
Messenger service
> and .NET Passport.
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Windows MVP, Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
> "Mike Scott" > wrote in message
> ...
> > As <subject>, forgive me for asking this maybe silly question, but, what
are
> > the differences between Windows Messenger (I believe is supplied with XP
> > Pro.) and MSN Messenger? Am I correct is saying I already have Windows
> > Messenger (I have Win XP Pro.). Which one should I use?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
>
>

Jonathan Kay [MVP]
December 5th 03, 04:26 PM
Hi,

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes (must use 'Video Conference' option in MSN Messenger 6)
4. Yes

This is what I mean by Display Pictures:
http://messenger.msn.com/Resource/Tiles.aspx

Yes, no current version of Messenger (including Windows Messenger 5) has an option to
"'appear offline" when logging in.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Windows MVP, Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com

"No Spam" > wrote in message ...
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> Does it mean that:
> 1. Text-chat is possible between MSN & Windows Messenger?
> 2. Voice chat is possible between MSN & Windows Messenger?
> 3. Webcam chat is possible between MSN & Windows Messenger?
> 4. Files can be sent up & down between MSN & Windows Messenger?
>
> What exactly is meant by "support for display pictures"?
>
> B.T.W. There is a new version 5.0 available.
> But it still has not the possibility to login with the "appear offline"
> status.
> I know that there is a workaround (blocking contacts) but that is too time
> consuming for me and my numerous contacts.
> We would all have to block all our contacts before to logoff.
> It is the only reason why we still do not use Messenger, which is apart from
> that shortcoming a wonderful program.
>
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Greetings Mike,
> >
> > Which one you use is entirely up to you -- however, here are some of the
> differences.
> >
> > Most notably, MSN Messenger 6 has support for display pictures, custom
> emoticons, has a
> > different interface, etc. whereas Windows Messenger supports SIP-based
> communications
> > services, Exchange IM Server, etc. Which one you use is up to you, and a
> matter of personal
> > choice (and based upon your needs and likes), however one thing to keep in
> mind, Windows
> > Messenger must still be installed on Windows XP in order for MSN Messenger
> to retain full
> > functionality (Remote Assistance, Whiteboard, Application Sharing, etc.).
> >
> > MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member
> Profiles, MSN
> > Mobile, etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered around Windows
> technologies (Exchange
> > Server, Greenwich/RTC Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.).
> >
> > Both clients however can make use of Microsoft technologies, like the .NET
> Messenger service
> > and .NET Passport.
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >
> > "Mike Scott" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > As <subject>, forgive me for asking this maybe silly question, but, what
> are
> > > the differences between Windows Messenger (I believe is supplied with XP
> > > Pro.) and MSN Messenger? Am I correct is saying I already have Windows
> > > Messenger (I have Win XP Pro.). Which one should I use?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

No Spam
December 5th 03, 04:26 PM
Thanks Jonathan,

That "appear offline" thing is however a bottleneck for us.
We continue with a competitor messenger for as long as this is not possible.


"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
>
> 1. Yes
> 2. Yes
> 3. Yes (must use 'Video Conference' option in MSN Messenger 6)
> 4. Yes
>
> This is what I mean by Display Pictures:
> http://messenger.msn.com/Resource/Tiles.aspx
>
> Yes, no current version of Messenger (including Windows Messenger 5) has
an option to
> "'appear offline" when logging in.
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Windows MVP, Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>
> "No Spam" > wrote in message
...
> > Hi Jonathan,
> >
> > Does it mean that:
> > 1. Text-chat is possible between MSN & Windows Messenger?
> > 2. Voice chat is possible between MSN & Windows Messenger?
> > 3. Webcam chat is possible between MSN & Windows Messenger?
> > 4. Files can be sent up & down between MSN & Windows Messenger?
> >
> > What exactly is meant by "support for display pictures"?
> >
> > B.T.W. There is a new version 5.0 available.
> > But it still has not the possibility to login with the "appear offline"
> > status.
> > I know that there is a workaround (blocking contacts) but that is too
time
> > consuming for me and my numerous contacts.
> > We would all have to block all our contacts before to logoff.
> > It is the only reason why we still do not use Messenger, which is apart
from
> > that shortcoming a wonderful program.
> >
> >
> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Greetings Mike,
> > >
> > > Which one you use is entirely up to you -- however, here are some of
the
> > differences.
> > >
> > > Most notably, MSN Messenger 6 has support for display pictures, custom
> > emoticons, has a
> > > different interface, etc. whereas Windows Messenger supports SIP-based
> > communications
> > > services, Exchange IM Server, etc. Which one you use is up to you,
and a
> > matter of personal
> > > choice (and based upon your needs and likes), however one thing to
keep in
> > mind, Windows
> > > Messenger must still be installed on Windows XP in order for MSN
Messenger
> > to retain full
> > > functionality (Remote Assistance, Whiteboard, Application Sharing,
etc.).
> > >
> > > MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member
> > Profiles, MSN
> > > Mobile, etc.) whereas Windows Messenger is centered around Windows
> > technologies (Exchange
> > > Server, Greenwich/RTC Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.).
> > >
> > > Both clients however can make use of Microsoft technologies, like the
..NET
> > Messenger service
> > > and .NET Passport.
> > > ____________________________________________
> > > Jonathan Kay
> > > Windows MVP, Messenger
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > >
> > > "Mike Scott" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > As <subject>, forgive me for asking this maybe silly question, but,
what
> > are
> > > > the differences between Windows Messenger (I believe is supplied
with XP
> > > > Pro.) and MSN Messenger? Am I correct is saying I already have
Windows
> > > > Messenger (I have Win XP Pro.). Which one should I use?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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