Remote computer Access denied

[Scott]

I have four computers on a network at home 3 using Windows
XP home and 1 uses Windows XP Pro. When any of the 3
computers try to connect to the Windows pro machine I get
an access denied, contact System Admin to set permissions.
I don't have a clue what needs to be changed. The Windows
Pro machine has shared drives set up so it not that. There
is no problem with the Windows XP home version they can
access the each other without a problem. In addition, the
windows pro machine can access the other 3 without a
problem.


Any help would be great
Scott

[Roger Abell [MVP]]

How have you shared out on the Pro ?
Is the Pro still using Simplified sharing ?

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Roger=20

"Scott" > wrote in message =
...
> I have four computers on a network at home 3 using Windows=20
> XP home and 1 uses Windows XP Pro. When any of the 3=20
> computers try to connect to the Windows pro machine I get=20
> an access denied, contact System Admin to set permissions.=20
> I don't have a clue what needs to be changed. The Windows=20
> Pro machine has shared drives set up so it not that. There=20
> is no problem with the Windows XP home version they can=20
> access the each other without a problem. In addition, the=20
> windows pro machine can access the other 3 without a=20
> problem.
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>=20
> Any help would be great
> Scott

[Scott]

Sorry, not sure what you are asking. All I did was right
clicked on the folder and identified it as a shared drive.
I did this to the C: dirve and two major subfolder below
it. Hope this answer your question.


>-----Original Message-----
>How have you shared out on the Pro ?
>Is the Pro still using Simplified sharing ?
>
>--
>Roger
>
>"Scott" > wrote in message
...
>> I have four computers on a network at home 3 using
Windows
>> XP home and 1 uses Windows XP Pro. When any of the 3
>> computers try to connect to the Windows pro machine I
get
>> an access denied, contact System Admin to set
permissions.
>> I don't have a clue what needs to be changed. The
Windows
>> Pro machine has shared drives set up so it not that.
There
>> is no problem with the Windows XP home version they can
>> access the each other without a problem. In addition,
the
>> windows pro machine can access the other 3 without a
>> problem.
>>
>>
>> Any help would be great
>> Scott
>.
>

[Roger Abell [MVP]]

If you are not in Simplified sharing mode (bottom=20
of View tab in Folder Options) then when you=20
share there is a permissions button that allows=20
you to state what groups/accounts are allowed=20
to access via the share. Those accounts then=20
also must have NTFS permissions on what is=20
being shared. If you are in Simplified sharing=20
mode, then instead of those accounts the Guest=20
account must have NTFS permissions.

--=20
Roger=20

"Scott" > wrote in message =
...
> Sorry, not sure what you are asking. All I did was right=20
> clicked on the folder and identified it as a shared drive.=20
> I did this to the C: dirve and two major subfolder below=20
> it. Hope this answer your question.
>=20
>=20
> >-----Original Message-----
> >How have you shared out on the Pro ?
> >Is the Pro still using Simplified sharing ?
> >
> >--=20
> >Roger=20
> >
> >"Scott" > wrote in message=20
> ...
> >> I have four computers on a network at home 3 using=20
> Windows=20
> >> XP home and 1 uses Windows XP Pro. When any of the 3=20
> >> computers try to connect to the Windows pro machine I=20
> get=20
> >> an access denied, contact System Admin to set=20
> permissions.=20
> >> I don't have a clue what needs to be changed. The=20
> Windows=20
> >> Pro machine has shared drives set up so it not that.=20
> There=20
> >> is no problem with the Windows XP home version they can=20
> >> access the each other without a problem. In addition,=20
> the=20
> >> windows pro machine can access the other 3 without a=20
> >> problem.
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >> Any help would be great
> >> Scott
> >.
> >

[Scott]

Thanks for getting back. How do you set NTFS permissions?


>-----Original Message-----
>If you are not in Simplified sharing mode (bottom
>of View tab in Folder Options) then when you
>share there is a permissions button that allows
>you to state what groups/accounts are allowed
>to access via the share. Those accounts then
>also must have NTFS permissions on what is
>being shared. If you are in Simplified sharing
>mode, then instead of those accounts the Guest
>account must have NTFS permissions.
>
>--
>Roger
>
>"Scott" > wrote in message
...
>> Sorry, not sure what you are asking. All I did was
right
>> clicked on the folder and identified it as a shared
drive.
>> I did this to the C: dirve and two major subfolder
below
>> it. Hope this answer your question.
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >How have you shared out on the Pro ?
>> >Is the Pro still using Simplified sharing ?
>> >
>> >--
>> >Roger
>> >
>> >"Scott" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> I have four computers on a network at home 3 using
>> Windows
>> >> XP home and 1 uses Windows XP Pro. When any of the 3
>> >> computers try to connect to the Windows pro machine
I
>> get
>> >> an access denied, contact System Admin to set
>> permissions.
>> >> I don't have a clue what needs to be changed. The
>> Windows
>> >> Pro machine has shared drives set up so it not that.
>> There
>> >> is no problem with the Windows XP home version they
can
>> >> access the each other without a problem. In
addition,
>> the
>> >> windows pro machine can access the other 3 without a
>> >> problem.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Any help would be great
>> >> Scott
>> >.
>> >
>.
>

[Roger Abell [MVP]]

On XP Pro not in Simple sharing it is the Security=20
tab in the properties of the folder or file.
On XP any version it is in the same place when in=20
a Safe mode F8 boot.
One can also use the commandline tool : cacls

--=20
Roger=20

"Scott" > wrote in message =
...
> Thanks for getting back. How do you set NTFS permissions?
>=20
>=20
> >-----Original Message-----
> >If you are not in Simplified sharing mode (bottom=20
> >of View tab in Folder Options) then when you=20
> >share there is a permissions button that allows=20
> >you to state what groups/accounts are allowed=20
> >to access via the share. Those accounts then=20
> >also must have NTFS permissions on what is=20
> >being shared. If you are in Simplified sharing=20
> >mode, then instead of those accounts the Guest=20
> >account must have NTFS permissions.
> >
> >--=20
> >Roger=20
> >
> >"Scott" > wrote in message=20
> ...
> >> Sorry, not sure what you are asking. All I did was=20
> right=20
> >> clicked on the folder and identified it as a shared=20
> drive.=20
> >> I did this to the C: dirve and two major subfolder=20
> below=20
> >> it. Hope this answer your question.
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >How have you shared out on the Pro ?
> >> >Is the Pro still using Simplified sharing ?
> >> >
> >> >--=20
> >> >Roger=20
> >> >
> >> >"Scott" > wrote in message=20
> >> ...
> >> >> I have four computers on a network at home 3 using=20
> >> Windows=20
> >> >> XP home and 1 uses Windows XP Pro. When any of the 3=20
> >> >> computers try to connect to the Windows pro machine=20
> I=20
> >> get=20
> >> >> an access denied, contact System Admin to set=20
> >> permissions.=20
> >> >> I don't have a clue what needs to be changed. The=20
> >> Windows=20
> >> >> Pro machine has shared drives set up so it not that.=20
> >> There=20
> >> >> is no problem with the Windows XP home version they=20
> can=20
> >> >> access the each other without a problem. In=20
> addition,=20
> >> the=20
> >> >> windows pro machine can access the other 3 without a=20
> >> >> problem.
> >> >>=20
> >> >>=20
> >> >> Any help would be great
> >> >> Scott
> >> >.
> >> >
> >.
> >

[Scott]

Well I tried you idea. I turned off Simple sharing and set
the security level. No Joy. Any other Ideas.

Scott
>-----Original Message-----
>On XP Pro not in Simple sharing it is the Security
>tab in the properties of the folder or file.
>On XP any version it is in the same place when in
>a Safe mode F8 boot.
>One can also use the commandline tool : cacls
>
>--
>Roger
>
>"Scott" > wrote in message
...
>> Thanks for getting back. How do you set NTFS
permissions?
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >If you are not in Simplified sharing mode (bottom
>> >of View tab in Folder Options) then when you
>> >share there is a permissions button that allows
>> >you to state what groups/accounts are allowed
>> >to access via the share. Those accounts then
>> >also must have NTFS permissions on what is
>> >being shared. If you are in Simplified sharing
>> >mode, then instead of those accounts the Guest
>> >account must have NTFS permissions.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Roger
>> >
>> >"Scott" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> Sorry, not sure what you are asking. All I did was
>> right
>> >> clicked on the folder and identified it as a shared
>> drive.
>> >> I did this to the C: dirve and two major subfolder
>> below
>> >> it. Hope this answer your question.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >How have you shared out on the Pro ?
>> >> >Is the Pro still using Simplified sharing ?
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Roger
>> >> >
>> >> >"Scott" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> I have four computers on a network at home 3
using
>> >> Windows
>> >> >> XP home and 1 uses Windows XP Pro. When any of
the 3
>> >> >> computers try to connect to the Windows pro
machine
>> I
>> >> get
>> >> >> an access denied, contact System Admin to set
>> >> permissions.
>> >> >> I don't have a clue what needs to be changed. The
>> >> Windows
>> >> >> Pro machine has shared drives set up so it not
that.
>> >> There
>> >> >> is no problem with the Windows XP home version
they
>> can
>> >> >> access the each other without a problem. In
>> addition,
>> >> the
>> >> >> windows pro machine can access the other 3
without a
>> >> >> problem.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Any help would be great
>> >> >> Scott
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >.
>> >
>.
>

[Scott]

Fixed the problem. Here what was going on. Windows XP pro
using by default something called Simple Sharing. This
means everyone has permission to see anything, except
Administrator stuff (unless you let them). This also means
that you can only log in via network as Guest. Guest have
no rights to any area. If you turn off Simple sharing you
now set access at a user level. Each directory has to be
given access to a user. With Simple sharing off you can
now log in as a non guest, but you must have an account on
the system.

The second problem was that my company had set up to auto-
log in a user. I think the theory is when you log onto the
laptop it would go right out and log you onto the network
if it saw it. This breaks down if the passwords are not
the same. So when I clicked on the network item
identifying the laptop it tried to log me on with the
wrong password. It failed and sent me a bad message that
access denied (I would think it would have said wrong
password). I figured out how to force it to ask me the
password. It in the Sys Admin funtion where you set
network security policy. Once I did this it first asked me
for my password and I logged right in, no problem.

The third problem. Even with above I should have been able
to log in as guest. But it turns out my company setup the
guest account but never actually log in as guest so it had
never done it inital install, such as set first password.

The End of the story is I have now created same name
accounts on machines I want access to and all is well.
Mission acomplished lesson learned for other people future
problems.

Thanks for the help

>-----Original Message-----
>Well I tried you idea. I turned off Simple sharing and
set
>the security level. No Joy. Any other Ideas.
>
>Scott
>>-----Original Message-----
>>On XP Pro not in Simple sharing it is the Security
>>tab in the properties of the folder or file.
>>On XP any version it is in the same place when in
>>a Safe mode F8 boot.
>>One can also use the commandline tool : cacls
>>
>>--
>>Roger
>>
>>"Scott" > wrote in message
...
>>> Thanks for getting back. How do you set NTFS
>permissions?
>>>
>>>
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >If you are not in Simplified sharing mode (bottom
>>> >of View tab in Folder Options) then when you
>>> >share there is a permissions button that allows
>>> >you to state what groups/accounts are allowed
>>> >to access via the share. Those accounts then
>>> >also must have NTFS permissions on what is
>>> >being shared. If you are in Simplified sharing
>>> >mode, then instead of those accounts the Guest
>>> >account must have NTFS permissions.
>>> >
>>> >--
>>> >Roger
>>> >
>>> >"Scott" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >> Sorry, not sure what you are asking. All I did was
>>> right
>>> >> clicked on the folder and identified it as a shared
>>> drive.
>>> >> I did this to the C: dirve and two major subfolder
>>> below
>>> >> it. Hope this answer your question.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >> >How have you shared out on the Pro ?
>>> >> >Is the Pro still using Simplified sharing ?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >--
>>> >> >Roger
>>> >> >
>>> >> >"Scott" > wrote in message
>>> >> ...
>>> >> >> I have four computers on a network at home 3
>using
>>> >> Windows
>>> >> >> XP home and 1 uses Windows XP Pro. When any of
>the 3
>>> >> >> computers try to connect to the Windows pro
>machine
>>> I
>>> >> get
>>> >> >> an access denied, contact System Admin to set
>>> >> permissions.
>>> >> >> I don't have a clue what needs to be changed.
The
>>> >> Windows
>>> >> >> Pro machine has shared drives set up so it not
>that.
>>> >> There
>>> >> >> is no problem with the Windows XP home version
>they
>>> can
>>> >> >> access the each other without a problem. In
>>> addition,
>>> >> the
>>> >> >> windows pro machine can access the other 3
>without a
>>> >> >> problem.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Any help would be great
>>> >> >> Scott
>>> >> >.
>>> >> >
>>> >.
>>> >
>>.
>>
>.
>