Managing/restricting users, Pro vs. Home

[Det.John.Kimble]

It appears the ability to truly manage and restrict users on XP Home is
*very* limited (inadequate IMO). Wish I would have known a few months ago
what I know now. Oh well...

Does XP Pro offer any better capabilities in this area? If so, what are
they? Anybody out there with XP Pro and a few kids they have setup and
restricted on the system? Anything you couldn't do? I'm considering an XP
Pro upgrade but I don't want to be disappointed again by marketing horse
puckey.

Thanks!

[Carey Frisch]

Consider purchasing Norton Internet Security 2004
and setup an account with parental controls of your choosing.
Visit http://www.symantec.com/sabu/nis/nis_pe/features.html.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

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"Det.John.Kimble" > wrote in message: ...

> It appears the ability to truly manage and restrict users on XP Home is
> *very* limited (inadequate IMO). Wish I would have known a few months ago
> what I know now. Oh well...
>
> Does XP Pro offer any better capabilities in this area? If so, what are
> they? Anybody out there with XP Pro and a few kids they have setup and
> restricted on the system? Anything you couldn't do? I'm considering an XP
> Pro upgrade but I don't want to be disappointed again by marketing horse
> puckey.
>
> Thanks!

[Det.John.Kimble]

Thanks, but internet access isn't the issue.

I want control of the PC in terms of managing what is installed and by who.
I don't want "limited users" installing or upgrading *anything*. Kids
aren't known for their ability to thoroughly research these things before
laying them down, and ultimately hosing the system.

I want the system admin to do it and to then determine who (everybody,
admins, specific users, etc.) gets access to the app.

Is XP Pro what I need to do this? W2K? This is basic system protection
IMO. With potentially multiple users on XP Home, not being able to at least
control installations is a severe flaw. A system per person is NOT an
option.


"Carey Frisch" > wrote in message
...
> Consider purchasing Norton Internet Security 2004
> and setup an account with parental controls of your choosing.
> Visit http://www.symantec.com/sabu/nis/nis_pe/features.html.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
> "Det.John.Kimble" > wrote in message:
...
>
> > It appears the ability to truly manage and restrict users on XP Home is
> > *very* limited (inadequate IMO). Wish I would have known a few months
ago
> > what I know now. Oh well...
> >
> > Does XP Pro offer any better capabilities in this area? If so, what are
> > they? Anybody out there with XP Pro and a few kids they have setup and
> > restricted on the system? Anything you couldn't do? I'm considering an
XP
> > Pro upgrade but I don't want to be disappointed again by marketing horse
> > puckey.
> >
> > Thanks!
>
>

[Det.John.Kimble]

Looks like XP Pro and Group Policies are what I needed. damn...

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/evaluate/xpsec.asp?frame=true


"Det.John.Kimble" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks, but internet access isn't the issue.
>
> I want control of the PC in terms of managing what is installed and by
who.
> I don't want "limited users" installing or upgrading *anything*. Kids
> aren't known for their ability to thoroughly research these things before
> laying them down, and ultimately hosing the system.
>
> I want the system admin to do it and to then determine who (everybody,
> admins, specific users, etc.) gets access to the app.
>
> Is XP Pro what I need to do this? W2K? This is basic system protection
> IMO. With potentially multiple users on XP Home, not being able to at
least
> control installations is a severe flaw. A system per person is NOT an
> option.
>
>
> "Carey Frisch" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Consider purchasing Norton Internet Security 2004
> > and setup an account with parental controls of your choosing.
> > Visit http://www.symantec.com/sabu/nis/nis_pe/features.html.
> >
> > --
> > Carey Frisch
> > Microsoft MVP
> > Windows XP - Shell/User
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------------
> >
> > "Det.John.Kimble" > wrote in message:
> ...
> >
> > > It appears the ability to truly manage and restrict users on XP Home
is
> > > *very* limited (inadequate IMO). Wish I would have known a few months
> ago
> > > what I know now. Oh well...
> > >
> > > Does XP Pro offer any better capabilities in this area? If so, what
are
> > > they? Anybody out there with XP Pro and a few kids they have setup
and
> > > restricted on the system? Anything you couldn't do? I'm considering
an
> XP
> > > Pro upgrade but I don't want to be disappointed again by marketing
horse
> > > puckey.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> >
> >
>
>

[Doug Knox MS-MVP]

John,

In a stand alone or work group environment, Group Policies apply to all
users on the machine. You can work around this:

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=293655

You can also see www.dougknox.com, Win XP Utilities, Windows XP Security
Console, for a small utility I've written that allows you to apply a good
number of the restrictions available in the Group Policy Editor, on a
per-user basis. Version 1.4 is currently available, and version 2 will be
available soon with even more restrictions.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
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"Det.John.Kimble" > wrote in message
...
> Looks like XP Pro and Group Policies are what I needed. damn...
>
>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/evaluate/xpsec.asp?frame=true
>
>
> "Det.John.Kimble" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Thanks, but internet access isn't the issue.
> >
> > I want control of the PC in terms of managing what is installed and by
> who.
> > I don't want "limited users" installing or upgrading *anything*. Kids
> > aren't known for their ability to thoroughly research these things
before
> > laying them down, and ultimately hosing the system.
> >
> > I want the system admin to do it and to then determine who (everybody,
> > admins, specific users, etc.) gets access to the app.
> >
> > Is XP Pro what I need to do this? W2K? This is basic system protection
> > IMO. With potentially multiple users on XP Home, not being able to at
> least
> > control installations is a severe flaw. A system per person is NOT an
> > option.
> >
> >
> > "Carey Frisch" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Consider purchasing Norton Internet Security 2004
> > > and setup an account with parental controls of your choosing.
> > > Visit http://www.symantec.com/sabu/nis/nis_pe/features.html.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carey Frisch
> > > Microsoft MVP
> > > Windows XP - Shell/User
> > >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ---------------
> > >
> > > "Det.John.Kimble" > wrote in message:
> > ...
> > >
> > > > It appears the ability to truly manage and restrict users on XP Home
> is
> > > > *very* limited (inadequate IMO). Wish I would have known a few
months
> > ago
> > > > what I know now. Oh well...
> > > >
> > > > Does XP Pro offer any better capabilities in this area? If so, what
> are
> > > > they? Anybody out there with XP Pro and a few kids they have setup
> and
> > > > restricted on the system? Anything you couldn't do? I'm
considering
> an
> > XP
> > > > Pro upgrade but I don't want to be disappointed again by marketing
> horse
> > > > puckey.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>