Shared Internet Connection

[Colin Basterfield]

Hi,

I have got ADSL/Broadband on my XP Pro machine which is network to a lap-top
also with XP Pro on. I have set up Internet dial up objects properties so
that Internet Connection Sharing is enable, so that the other user can
collect their own mail and get to the net etc...

What seems to happen continually and to me what seems like no reason, it
dials up, almost like some kind of timed broadcast message.

Does anyone know a way to only have it dial up when one of us actually wants
it to!

Many thanks
Colin

[Gary Tait]

On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:17:35 +1300, "Colin Basterfield"
> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I have got ADSL/Broadband on my XP Pro machine which is network to a lap-top
>also with XP Pro on. I have set up Internet dial up objects properties so
>that Internet Connection Sharing is enable, so that the other user can
>collect their own mail and get to the net etc...
>
>What seems to happen continually and to me what seems like no reason, it
>dials up, almost like some kind of timed broadcast message.
>
>Does anyone know a way to only have it dial up when one of us actually wants
>it to!
>
>Many thanks
>Colin
>
>

IMO, get a router/firewall that supports PPPOE, most do.

[NobodyMan]

On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:17:35 +1300, "Colin Basterfield"
> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I have got ADSL/Broadband on my XP Pro machine which is network to a lap-top
>also with XP Pro on. I have set up Internet dial up objects properties so
>that Internet Connection Sharing is enable, so that the other user can
>collect their own mail and get to the net etc...
>
>What seems to happen continually and to me what seems like no reason, it
>dials up, almost like some kind of timed broadcast message.
>
>Does anyone know a way to only have it dial up when one of us actually wants
>it to!
>
>Many thanks
>Colin
>
>

You have confused the hell out of me. If you have broadband, you
don't ever "dialup" your ISP. You are constantly on-line while the
modem and computer are running. Hence, you should never have any
"dialing up" problems.

[Colin Basterfield]

Hi,

Sorry for the confusion, my point however is that if I go to IE6 and it is
the first time of the day, and the computer has been off overnight say, then
the dial up dialog box appears and I have to click on Connect, which it then
does, providing me a progress message box during the connection process.

If when I have finished I right click on my connection in the system tray,
and choose disconnect then it does just that, and it stays in the
'disconnected' state until IU want to go to the internet again, but my point
is if I turn Shared Internet Connection on and then have my wife's lap top
using that connection to the internet, then even if she isn't using the
browser or Outlook Express, I see it connecting without being asked to do
so.

As a point of reference this used to happen with a real dial up connection,
i.e. a normal modem.

I used the information from http://www.practicallynetworked.com/

I guess as you say it doesn't matter a hoot really given that I have ADSL,
but constantly seeing the connetion status box when you are working away is
distracting.

Cheers for any thoughts, hope this makes it a little clearer, even if I am
still talking crap :-)

Colin B



"NobodyMan" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:17:35 +1300, "Colin Basterfield"
> > wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >I have got ADSL/Broadband on my XP Pro machine which is network to a
lap-top
> >also with XP Pro on. I have set up Internet dial up objects properties
so
> >that Internet Connection Sharing is enable, so that the other user can
> >collect their own mail and get to the net etc...
> >
> >What seems to happen continually and to me what seems like no reason, it
> >dials up, almost like some kind of timed broadcast message.
> >
> >Does anyone know a way to only have it dial up when one of us actually
wants
> >it to!
> >
> >Many thanks
> >Colin
> >
> >
>
> You have confused the hell out of me. If you have broadband, you
> don't ever "dialup" your ISP. You are constantly on-line while the
> modem and computer are running. Hence, you should never have any
> "dialing up" problems.
>

[NobodyMan]

On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:39:46 +1300, "Colin Basterfield"
> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Sorry for the confusion, my point however is that if I go to IE6 and it is
>the first time of the day, and the computer has been off overnight say, then
>the dial up dialog box appears and I have to click on Connect, which it then
>does, providing me a progress message box during the connection process.

Then something is set up wrong on your system somewhere. You should
never have a "dial up dialog box" with DSL. Your computer comes on,
you are connected. Bottom line. If not, you have a configuration
problem. Best bet is to work with your ISP to fix the problem. If
you ISP doesn' have tech support, then IMHO get rid of them and find
one that does. Competition is to fierce for a decent ISP to NOT have
tech support.

>If when I have finished I right click on my connection in the system tray,
>and choose disconnect then it does just that, and it stays in the
>'disconnected' state until IU want to go to the internet again, but my point
>is if I turn Shared Internet Connection on and then have my wife's lap top
>using that connection to the internet, then even if she isn't using the
>browser or Outlook Express, I see it connecting without being asked to do
>so.

As a DSL connection SHOULD do. It shouldn't ask if you want to
connect.

>As a point of reference this used to happen with a real dial up connection,
>i.e. a normal modem.
>
>I used the information from http://www.practicallynetworked.com/
>
>I guess as you say it doesn't matter a hoot really given that I have ADSL,
>but constantly seeing the connetion status box when you are working away is
>distracting.
>
>Cheers for any thoughts, hope this makes it a little clearer, even if I am
>still talking crap :-)
>
>Colin B
>
>
>
>"NobodyMan" > wrote in message
...
>> On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:17:35 +1300, "Colin Basterfield"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >I have got ADSL/Broadband on my XP Pro machine which is network to a
>lap-top
>> >also with XP Pro on. I have set up Internet dial up objects properties
>so
>> >that Internet Connection Sharing is enable, so that the other user can
>> >collect their own mail and get to the net etc...
>> >
>> >What seems to happen continually and to me what seems like no reason, it
>> >dials up, almost like some kind of timed broadcast message.
>> >
>> >Does anyone know a way to only have it dial up when one of us actually
>wants
>> >it to!
>> >
>> >Many thanks
>> >Colin
>> >
>> >
>>
>> You have confused the hell out of me. If you have broadband, you
>> don't ever "dialup" your ISP. You are constantly on-line while the
>> modem and computer are running. Hence, you should never have any
>> "dialing up" problems.
>>
>

[Malke]

NobodyMan wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:39:46 +1300, "Colin Basterfield"
> > wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Sorry for the confusion, my point however is that if I go to IE6 and
>>it is the first time of the day, and the computer has been off
>>overnight say, then the dial up dialog box appears and I have to click
>>on Connect, which it then does, providing me a progress message box
>>during the connection process.
>
> Then something is set up wrong on your system somewhere. You should
> never have a "dial up dialog box" with DSL. Your computer comes on,
> you are connected. Bottom line. If not, you have a configuration
> problem. Best bet is to work with your ISP to fix the problem. If
> you ISP doesn' have tech support, then IMHO get rid of them and find
> one that does. Competition is to fierce for a decent ISP to NOT have
> tech support.
>

Actually, that's not true. It depends on the dsl connection. Where I
live (central CA, USA), the dsl provided to home users by SBC is
euphemistically called "instant on" as opposed to the "always on" of a
cable (Comcast here) Internet connection. What this means is that when
the computer is first turned on, SBC's Connection Mgr. will start and
make the connection. Once connected, the person can stay on line
forever, they don't get kicked off like with dial up, but it is rather
like dial up on steroids in that they do have to make that first
connection.

(lots of snippage)

If the OP doesn't want to have his dsl connect like that, he will need
to check with the ISP to see if they provide an "always on" dsl. I know
that SBC does provide this type of dsl for businesses here, for
instance, but of course not at $30/month. And I wish competition *were*
fierce here, but it isn't. Like lots of places, you only have a choice
between one company offering dsl and one other company offering cable.
Both offering crappy service, naturally.

Cheers,

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"

[NobodyMan]

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:11:34 -0800, Malke >
wrote:

>NobodyMan wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:39:46 +1300, "Colin Basterfield"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Sorry for the confusion, my point however is that if I go to IE6 and
>>>it is the first time of the day, and the computer has been off
>>>overnight say, then the dial up dialog box appears and I have to click
>>>on Connect, which it then does, providing me a progress message box
>>>during the connection process.
>>
>> Then something is set up wrong on your system somewhere. You should
>> never have a "dial up dialog box" with DSL. Your computer comes on,
>> you are connected. Bottom line. If not, you have a configuration
>> problem. Best bet is to work with your ISP to fix the problem. If
>> you ISP doesn' have tech support, then IMHO get rid of them and find
>> one that does. Competition is to fierce for a decent ISP to NOT have
>> tech support.
>>
>
>Actually, that's not true. It depends on the dsl connection. Where I
>live (central CA, USA), the dsl provided to home users by SBC is
>euphemistically called "instant on" as opposed to the "always on" of a
>cable (Comcast here) Internet connection. What this means is that when
>the computer is first turned on, SBC's Connection Mgr. will start and
>make the connection. Once connected, the person can stay on line
>forever, they don't get kicked off like with dial up, but it is rather
>like dial up on steroids in that they do have to make that first
>connection.
>
>(lots of snippage)
>
>If the OP doesn't want to have his dsl connect like that, he will need
>to check with the ISP to see if they provide an "always on" dsl. I know
>that SBC does provide this type of dsl for businesses here, for
>instance, but of course not at $30/month. And I wish competition *were*
>fierce here, but it isn't. Like lots of places, you only have a choice
>between one company offering dsl and one other company offering cable.
>Both offering crappy service, naturally.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Malke

You learn something new every day. I've never heard of ANY broadband,
DSL or otherwise, that isn't always constant-on. Thanks, I'll write
that into my book as something to read up on.