ntdoc
January 5th 04, 11:41 PM
None of the MS fixes correct the issue for myself or most others I've
found complaining of this same/similar issue.
"Delayed Write Failed" Error Message When You Manage Files in Windows
XP
I am looking for someone (MICROSOFT?) to correct this issue.
Here is the information that I have available to demonstrate that this
problem mainly appears to be related to Windows XP and Large Hard
Drives.
There is so much different affected hardware (on XP) that it is
difficult to find a real lowest common denominator. So far I have not
found anyone claiming to have this issue on Windows 2000. I'm not
saying that someone doesn't have the issue, I just have not found a
link on the Web saying so. That does show that at least XP is one
common denominator.
There appear to be more people with a ATI cards complaining of this
issue then there are with other video cards. That would tend to
indicate that ATI video cards "may" be at least partially another
common denominator. Maxtor and Western Digital hard drives appear to
be mentioned more then any others but I would guess that this issue
effects all new large EIDE/ATA drives that require 48Bit addressing to
use.
I am unable to find the KB on Maxtor's site but I've included the URLs
from Western Digital that at least acknowledge the issue.
So far though it appears that NO ONE (Promise, Western Digital,
Maxtor, Microsoft, etc) has done much about it. The KB articles
suggest a few things, but most of the suggestions are futile for
everyone. So far I have not found anything that CONCLUSIVELY fixes
the problem for EVERYONE involved.
I have not modified the Program memory settings in the Advanced tab,
they are as set by the XP installation.
On my system I get event viwer errors and system freezes.
Disk Management says the WD1200 is Healthy (but at risk)
There are physical clunking sounds at random times from the Hard
Drive/s
When system was running Windows 2000 and only WD1200 and WD800 there
was no such issue with Delayed Write Failed
If I unplug the new WD250 and plug in my old WD800 with Windows 2000
and use the built-in IDE ports on the Motherboard there are no Delay
Write issues and the occassional clunking sound goes away too.
Once I plug the new WD2500 back into the Promise Ultra100 TX2 the
issue comes back.
Running Windows XP Pro w/SP1
ASUS CUSL2 Motherboard
Intel Chipset 815e
BIOS 1009
Intel PIII 933
Micron CAS 2 SDRAM 133MHz 512MB
ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder 8500DV with Catalyst 3.9 Drivers
WinXP Promise Ultra100 TX2
Western Digital 2500JB-32FUA0 8MB Cache (Primary on Ultra100)
Western Digital 1200JB-00CRA1 8MB Cache (Slave on Ultra 100)
Using brand new 80Wire/40Pin Cable
WD2500 is Basic Disk
WD1200 is Dynamic
WD2500 Bus 0, ID 0, LUN 0
WD1200 Bus 0, ID 1, LUN 0
Sony DRU500A DVD/Writer
Plextor 40/12/40A CD/Writer
"Delayed Write Failed" Error Message When You Manage Files in Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=330174
These other URLs are similar in nature but perhaps not exactly related
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=242518
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=109730
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=182045
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=226064
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=247065
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=247904
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=252974
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=293842
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=296264
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=298964
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=303013
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=305098
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321733
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=328504
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812937
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=818788
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=831594
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/core/fnec_evl_FHCJ.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/prmd_stp_fztl.asp
http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_sid=_bUiGYZg&p_lva=&p_faqid=961&p_created=1050704914&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NjImc F9jYXRfbHZsMT03OSZwX3BhZ2U9MQ**&p_li=
http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=963&&p_sid=_bUiGYZg&p_lva=961&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NjImc F9jYXRfbHZsMT03OSZwX3BhZ2U9MQ%2A%2A&p_li=
http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=113&&p_sid=XnDYEYZg&p_lva=78&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NjA3J nBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=
http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_sid=XnDYEYZg&p_lva=&p_faqid=78&p_created=1004833709&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NjA3J nBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=
http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=282&&p_sid=XnDYEYZg&p_lva=78&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NjA3J nBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=
http://www.tweakhound.com/xp/xptweaks/atiproblem.htm
http://www.bustrace.com/products/delayedwrite.htm
http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4217.html
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=26&source=ultra
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/13302/
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/2459/?o=20
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/2458/
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/7888/?o=60
On 21 Oct 2003 07:10:36 -0700, (John) wrote:
>Thanks for your response, Tom.
>FYI, every hotfix or workaround that pertains to DWFs that MS has in
>their KB has been tried to no avail.
>
>
>"Tom Barclay" > wrote in message >...
>> There are several articles and workarounds for this error on Microsoft's
>> Knowledge Base website. You could try searching there. I've been getting
>> those errors ever since I installed XP Pro on my system, but none of the MS
>> workarounds worked for me. Your configuration is much different than mine
>> though, and one of the fixes pertains specifically to systems connected to
>> LANs, so it might be more helpful to you. Good luck.
>>
>> "john watson" > wrote in message
>> om...
>> > Our setup is as follows:
>> > Windows XP Pro, SP 1, all latest and greatest patches.
>> > Windows 2000 SP 4 file server with Ultra SCSI attached disk array.
>> > switched ethernet 100 LAN
>> > SMC Barricade 7008ABR NAT router latest firmware, 10/100 WAN port.
>> >
>> > The Windows XP client machine is on a segmented private network behind
>> > the Barricade. The WAN port of the barricade is plugged into our LAN
>> > (eseentially a private LAN off our corporate lan).
>> > We're having DWFs with two specific applications.
>> > First, Visual Sorce Safe 6 with SP5; coders at this workstation are
>> > contantly getting DWFs while attempting to check-in projects to the
>> > VSS db on the file server.
>> > Second, a proprietary data collection software attempting to write
>> > through the NAT to the file server. Almost constant DWFs. THis
>> > software has been reconfigured to collect the data points to the local
>> > hard drive, and then copy the finished file to the file server. No
>> > problems with that.
>> > Copying files to and from the file server yields no DWFs. No one else
>> > on the corporate LAN has any DWF problems with the file server.
>> > A quick pervue of PerfMon shows a 100Mbits connection when copying
>> > data through the NAT.
>> > ANy ideas would be greatly appreciated. I've tried the work arounds
>> > suggested by MS in KB 321733 and related articles to no avail.
>> > Thanks
>> > Jack
>> > Reply to
>> > (remove the NOSPAM)
found complaining of this same/similar issue.
"Delayed Write Failed" Error Message When You Manage Files in Windows
XP
I am looking for someone (MICROSOFT?) to correct this issue.
Here is the information that I have available to demonstrate that this
problem mainly appears to be related to Windows XP and Large Hard
Drives.
There is so much different affected hardware (on XP) that it is
difficult to find a real lowest common denominator. So far I have not
found anyone claiming to have this issue on Windows 2000. I'm not
saying that someone doesn't have the issue, I just have not found a
link on the Web saying so. That does show that at least XP is one
common denominator.
There appear to be more people with a ATI cards complaining of this
issue then there are with other video cards. That would tend to
indicate that ATI video cards "may" be at least partially another
common denominator. Maxtor and Western Digital hard drives appear to
be mentioned more then any others but I would guess that this issue
effects all new large EIDE/ATA drives that require 48Bit addressing to
use.
I am unable to find the KB on Maxtor's site but I've included the URLs
from Western Digital that at least acknowledge the issue.
So far though it appears that NO ONE (Promise, Western Digital,
Maxtor, Microsoft, etc) has done much about it. The KB articles
suggest a few things, but most of the suggestions are futile for
everyone. So far I have not found anything that CONCLUSIVELY fixes
the problem for EVERYONE involved.
I have not modified the Program memory settings in the Advanced tab,
they are as set by the XP installation.
On my system I get event viwer errors and system freezes.
Disk Management says the WD1200 is Healthy (but at risk)
There are physical clunking sounds at random times from the Hard
Drive/s
When system was running Windows 2000 and only WD1200 and WD800 there
was no such issue with Delayed Write Failed
If I unplug the new WD250 and plug in my old WD800 with Windows 2000
and use the built-in IDE ports on the Motherboard there are no Delay
Write issues and the occassional clunking sound goes away too.
Once I plug the new WD2500 back into the Promise Ultra100 TX2 the
issue comes back.
Running Windows XP Pro w/SP1
ASUS CUSL2 Motherboard
Intel Chipset 815e
BIOS 1009
Intel PIII 933
Micron CAS 2 SDRAM 133MHz 512MB
ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder 8500DV with Catalyst 3.9 Drivers
WinXP Promise Ultra100 TX2
Western Digital 2500JB-32FUA0 8MB Cache (Primary on Ultra100)
Western Digital 1200JB-00CRA1 8MB Cache (Slave on Ultra 100)
Using brand new 80Wire/40Pin Cable
WD2500 is Basic Disk
WD1200 is Dynamic
WD2500 Bus 0, ID 0, LUN 0
WD1200 Bus 0, ID 1, LUN 0
Sony DRU500A DVD/Writer
Plextor 40/12/40A CD/Writer
"Delayed Write Failed" Error Message When You Manage Files in Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=330174
These other URLs are similar in nature but perhaps not exactly related
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=242518
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=109730
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=182045
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=226064
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=247065
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=247904
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=252974
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=293842
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=296264
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=298964
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=303013
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=305098
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321733
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=328504
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812937
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=818788
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=831594
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/core/fnec_evl_FHCJ.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/prmd_stp_fztl.asp
http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_sid=_bUiGYZg&p_lva=&p_faqid=961&p_created=1050704914&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NjImc F9jYXRfbHZsMT03OSZwX3BhZ2U9MQ**&p_li=
http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=963&&p_sid=_bUiGYZg&p_lva=961&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NjImc F9jYXRfbHZsMT03OSZwX3BhZ2U9MQ%2A%2A&p_li=
http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=113&&p_sid=XnDYEYZg&p_lva=78&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NjA3J nBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=
http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_sid=XnDYEYZg&p_lva=&p_faqid=78&p_created=1004833709&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NjA3J nBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=
http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=282&&p_sid=XnDYEYZg&p_lva=78&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NjA3J nBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=
http://www.tweakhound.com/xp/xptweaks/atiproblem.htm
http://www.bustrace.com/products/delayedwrite.htm
http://www.ati.com/support/infobase/4217.html
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=26&source=ultra
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/13302/
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/2459/?o=20
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/2458/
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/7888/?o=60
On 21 Oct 2003 07:10:36 -0700, (John) wrote:
>Thanks for your response, Tom.
>FYI, every hotfix or workaround that pertains to DWFs that MS has in
>their KB has been tried to no avail.
>
>
>"Tom Barclay" > wrote in message >...
>> There are several articles and workarounds for this error on Microsoft's
>> Knowledge Base website. You could try searching there. I've been getting
>> those errors ever since I installed XP Pro on my system, but none of the MS
>> workarounds worked for me. Your configuration is much different than mine
>> though, and one of the fixes pertains specifically to systems connected to
>> LANs, so it might be more helpful to you. Good luck.
>>
>> "john watson" > wrote in message
>> om...
>> > Our setup is as follows:
>> > Windows XP Pro, SP 1, all latest and greatest patches.
>> > Windows 2000 SP 4 file server with Ultra SCSI attached disk array.
>> > switched ethernet 100 LAN
>> > SMC Barricade 7008ABR NAT router latest firmware, 10/100 WAN port.
>> >
>> > The Windows XP client machine is on a segmented private network behind
>> > the Barricade. The WAN port of the barricade is plugged into our LAN
>> > (eseentially a private LAN off our corporate lan).
>> > We're having DWFs with two specific applications.
>> > First, Visual Sorce Safe 6 with SP5; coders at this workstation are
>> > contantly getting DWFs while attempting to check-in projects to the
>> > VSS db on the file server.
>> > Second, a proprietary data collection software attempting to write
>> > through the NAT to the file server. Almost constant DWFs. THis
>> > software has been reconfigured to collect the data points to the local
>> > hard drive, and then copy the finished file to the file server. No
>> > problems with that.
>> > Copying files to and from the file server yields no DWFs. No one else
>> > on the corporate LAN has any DWF problems with the file server.
>> > A quick pervue of PerfMon shows a 100Mbits connection when copying
>> > data through the NAT.
>> > ANy ideas would be greatly appreciated. I've tried the work arounds
>> > suggested by MS in KB 321733 and related articles to no avail.
>> > Thanks
>> > Jack
>> > Reply to
>> > (remove the NOSPAM)