XP home on multiple machines? [Archive]

kurttrail

January 6th 04, 01:26 AM

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Jim wrote:

> Is it legal for me to run my registration of XP Home on
> multiple machines I have without any problems?

Since MS has never proven that their One Computer EULA term is legally
enforceable on private individuals for over a decade, and there is no
legal precedent or law that makes it illegal to install software on more
than one computer, only you can decide whether you consider it legal or
not. Who is the Judge in your home, you or MS.

For more info about the legal enforceability of MS unsubstantiated EULA
FUD see:

http://microscum.com/mmpafaq/

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Evan

January 6th 04, 01:26 AM

i just LOVE people who bash M$ but whose e-mail account is hotmail.

"kurttrail" > wrote in message
...
> By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
> replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
> Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
> ever and ever! Amen!"
>
> Jim wrote:
>
> > Is it legal for me to run my registration of XP Home on
> > multiple machines I have without any problems?
>
> Since MS has never proven that their One Computer EULA term is legally
> enforceable on private individuals for over a decade, and there is no
> legal precedent or law that makes it illegal to install software on more
> than one computer, only you can decide whether you consider it legal or
> not. Who is the Judge in your home, you or MS.
>
> For more info about the legal enforceability of MS unsubstantiated EULA
> FUD see:
>
> http://microscum.com/mmpafaq/
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
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David Williams

January 6th 04, 01:26 AM

"Jim" > wrote in message
...
> Is it legal for me to run my registration of XP Home on
> multiple machines I have without any problems?

No version of Windows has legally allowed this. Only Windows XP has a way of
enforcing it.

rifleman

January 6th 04, 01:26 AM

In article >,
says...
|
|"Jim" > wrote in message
...
|> Is it legal for me to run my registration of XP Home on
|> multiple machines I have without any problems?
|
|No version of Windows has legally allowed this. Only Windows XP has a way of
|enforcing it.
|
|
|
I wouldn't have said "legally" is the right word - it's never been
tested in the courts.

kurttrail

January 6th 04, 01:26 AM

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Evan wrote:

> i just LOVE people who bash M$ but whose e-mail account is hotmail.
>

That way MS gets any viruses that are sent to me before I get them. ;-)

I had my account before MS bought up Hotmail, and have used it as my
public email addy since I signed up for it. My junkmail account. My
private email addy [which you won't ever find out] is only for people I
know & trust.

As for bashing MS, I just LOVE how some morons, who have no connection
to MS, get on their high horse, when someone doesn't buy MS's propaganda
hook, line, & sinker.

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purplehaz

January 6th 04, 01:26 AM

Hotmail?? Where did you get that. Kurts email address is not hotmail.

"Evan" > wrote in message
...
> i just LOVE people who bash M$ but whose e-mail account is hotmail.
>
> "kurttrail" > wrote in message
> ...
> > By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
> > replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
> > Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
> > ever and ever! Amen!"
> >
> > Jim wrote:
> >
> > > Is it legal for me to run my registration of XP Home on
> > > multiple machines I have without any problems?
> >
> > Since MS has never proven that their One Computer EULA term is legally
> > enforceable on private individuals for over a decade, and there is no
> > legal precedent or law that makes it illegal to install software on more
> > than one computer, only you can decide whether you consider it legal or
> > not. Who is the Judge in your home, you or MS.
> >
> > For more info about the legal enforceability of MS unsubstantiated EULA
> > FUD see:
> >
> > http://microscum.com/mmpafaq/
> >
> > --
> > Peace!
> > Kurt
> > Self-anointed Moderator
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> > "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
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> >
> >
>
>

kurttrail

January 6th 04, 01:27 AM

By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"

David Williams wrote:

> "Jim" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Is it legal for me to run my registration of XP Home on
>> multiple machines I have without any problems?
>
> No version of Windows has legally allowed this. Only Windows XP has a
> way of enforcing it.

Sh*t, and all this time I thought our gov't decided what's legal or not,
though passing laws & court decisions. When did we ammend the effin'
Constitution to give corporations the right to decide what's legal or
not?

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purplehaz

January 6th 04, 01:27 AM

"David Williams" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jim" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Is it legal for me to run my registration of XP Home on
> > multiple machines I have without any problems?
>
> No version of Windows has legally allowed this. Only Windows XP has a way
of
> enforcing it.
>

No version? How are you sure? Have you ever read an eula for Windows 1.0? A
better statement would be starting with at least win3.1 the ms eula forbids
you to install in on multiple computers. Legality shouldn't even be
mentioned as it has never been proven what is legal or illegal, if anything,
in the ms eula. Its a license aggrement, there is no law that makes it legal
or illegal. (now braking a contract may be illegal and the eula may be a
valid contract, but thats another debate)

kurttrail

January 6th 04, 01:27 AM

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ever and ever! Amen!"

purplehaz wrote:

> Hotmail?? Where did you get that. Kurts email address is not hotmail.
>

It's listed on my kurttrail.com website as my contact e-mail address.
Not to mention all the fake ones I created over the years to fill MS's
passport database with useless nonsense, and now that you can't get
MSNBC video without a MS passport, I'll be creating a hell of a lot more
useless data into the MS passport database every single day! ;-)

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purplehaz

January 6th 04, 01:28 AM

David Williams

January 6th 04, 01:29 AM

> S***, and all this time I thought our gov't decided what's legal or not,
> though passing laws & court decisions. When did we ammend the effin'
> Constitution to give corporations the right to decide what's legal or
> not?
>

When you agree to the License agreement you are forming a contract with
Microsoft. Also im sure the DCMA covers it.

David Williams

January 6th 04, 01:29 AM

> When you agree to the License agreement you are forming a contract with
> Microsoft. Also im sure the DCMA covers it.

Small mistake that should be the DMCA

purplehaz

January 6th 04, 01:29 AM

David Williams wrote:
>> S***, and all this time I thought our gov't decided what's legal or
>> not, though passing laws & court decisions. When did we ammend the
>> effin' Constitution to give corporations the right to decide what's
>> legal or not?
>>
>
> When you agree to the License agreement you are forming a contract
> with Microsoft. Also im sure the DCMA covers it.

Can you quote court cases that has proved that a "shrink wrap" license is a
valid contract? No you cannot as there are no such cases, and why you ask,
cause if ms did pursue it and they lost they would lose millions and
billions of dollars in revenue. So they just allow everyone to think its a
valid contract.
Also, since we all know that you cannot form a valid contract with a minor
under the age of 18, if anyone under 18 years of age installs it, it is not
a contract between them and MS as they are not old enough to enter into a
valid contract. So your contract theroy goes out the windows (pun intended).

null

January 6th 04, 01:31 AM

purplehaz wrote:

> "David Williams" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>"Jim" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>Is it legal for me to run my registration of XP Home on
>>>multiple machines I have without any problems?
>>
>>No version of Windows has legally allowed this. Only Windows XP has a way
>
> of
>
>>enforcing it.
>>
>
>
> No version? How are you sure? Have you ever read an eula for Windows 1.0? A
> better statement would be starting with at least win3.1 the ms eula forbids
> you to install in on multiple computers. Legality shouldn't even be
> mentioned as it has never been proven what is legal or illegal, if anything,
> in the ms eula. Its a license aggrement, there is no law that makes it legal
> or illegal. (now braking a contract may be illegal and the eula may be a
> valid contract, but thats another debate)
>
>

I kinda wonder how many of these posts are from attorneys (or judges)
with expertise in corporate law, or law of any kind.

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kurttrail

January 6th 04, 01:32 AM

Xref: kermit microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:865731

By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"

David Williams wrote:

>> Sh*t, and all this time I thought our gov't decided what's legal or
>> not, though passing laws & court decisions. When did we ammend the
>> effin' Constitution to give corporations the right to decide what's
>> legal or not?
>>
>
> When you agree to the License agreement you are forming a contract
> with Microsoft.

Yeah, so? There is no US law that makes breaking a contract illegal, in
and of itself. And the only legal recourse that one has to try to
enforce their contract terms on someone that has allegedly broken that
contract is to try to convince a Judge to agree with you. Since MS has
never tried to legally enforce their EULA terms on any individual in a
real court of law ever, no one knows whether MS's EULA terms are really
legally enforceable on individuals or not.

> Also im sure the DCMA covers it.

Actually the DMCA covers the circumvention of copy protection systems
under Copyright Law, not shrinkwrap licenses which would be Contract
Law, so your being sure about it, really doesn't mean sh*t, now does it?

"Nothing in this section shall affect rights, remedies, limitations, or
defenses to copyright infringement, including fair use, under this
title." - DMCA

David, your gonna have to educate yourself a hell of a lot more, if you
really want to play with me.

Try reading & understanding:

http://microscum.com/mmpafaq/

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purplehaz

January 6th 04, 01:32 AM

null wrote:
> purplehaz wrote:
>
>> "David Williams" > wrote in
>> message ...
>>
>>> "Jim" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Is it legal for me to run my registration of XP Home on
>>>> multiple machines I have without any problems?
>>>
>>> No version of Windows has legally allowed this. Only Windows XP has
>>> a way
>>
>> of
>>
>>> enforcing it.
>>>
>>
>>
>> No version? How are you sure? Have you ever read an eula for Windows
>> 1.0? A better statement would be starting with at least win3.1 the
>> ms eula forbids you to install in on multiple computers. Legality
>> shouldn't even be mentioned as it has never been proven what is
>> legal or illegal, if anything, in the ms eula. Its a license
>> aggrement, there is no law that makes it legal or illegal. (now
>> braking a contract may be illegal and the eula may be a valid
>> contract, but thats another debate)
>>
>>
>
> I kinda wonder how many of these posts are from attorneys (or judges)
> with expertise in corporate law, or law of any kind.

Probably not many although many people in this group have done extensive
research on the subject. I was always in favor of the eula until I
researched it and copywrite law and shrink wrap licensing. My opinion now is
ms of full of it with the eula.

Testy

January 6th 04, 01:32 AM

And why are no money hungry lawyers taking MS to court to get their greedy
little fingers in that billion dollar pie?

Testy

"purplehaz" > wrote in message
...
> David Williams wrote:
> >> S***, and all this time I thought our gov't decided what's legal or
> >> not, though passing laws & court decisions. When did we ammend the
> >> effin' Constitution to give corporations the right to decide what's
> >> legal or not?
> >>
> >
> > When you agree to the License agreement you are forming a contract
> > with Microsoft. Also im sure the DCMA covers it.
>
> Can you quote court cases that has proved that a "shrink wrap" license is
a
> valid contract? No you cannot as there are no such cases, and why you ask,
> cause if ms did pursue it and they lost they would lose millions and
> billions of dollars in revenue. So they just allow everyone to think its a
> valid contract.
> Also, since we all know that you cannot form a valid contract with a minor
> under the age of 18, if anyone under 18 years of age installs it, it is
not
> a contract between them and MS as they are not old enough to enter into a
> valid contract. So your contract theroy goes out the windows (pun
intended).
>
>

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kurttrail

January 6th 04, 01:32 AM

By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"

null wrote:

> purplehaz wrote:
>
>> "David Williams" > wrote in
>> message ...
>>
>>> "Jim" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Is it legal for me to run my registration of XP Home on
>>>> multiple machines I have without any problems?
>>>
>>> No version of Windows has legally allowed this. Only Windows XP has
>>> a way
>>
>> of
>>
>>> enforcing it.
>>>
>>
>>
>> No version? How are you sure? Have you ever read an eula for Windows
>> 1.0? A better statement would be starting with at least win3.1 the
>> ms eula forbids you to install in on multiple computers. Legality
>> shouldn't even be mentioned as it has never been proven what is
>> legal or illegal, if anything, in the ms eula. Its a license
>> aggrement, there is no law that makes it legal or illegal. (now
>> braking a contract may be illegal and the eula may be a valid
>> contract, but thats another debate)
>>
>>
>
> I kinda wonder how many of these posts are from attorneys (or judges)
> with expertise in corporate law, or law of any kind.

I have argued it out with lawyers both privately and in this group, and
when it comes down to answering with a yes or no, they all agree that
whether MS has the right to enforce their shrinkwrap license usage terms
on private individuals has yet to be legally determined.

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Ken Blake

January 6th 04, 01:33 AM

In ,
Jim > typed:

> Is it legal for me to run my registration of XP Home on
> multiple machines I have without any problems?

Of course not. The rule is quite clear. It's one copy (or one
license) for each computer.

There's nothing new here. This is exactly the same rule that's
been in effect on every version of Windows starting with Windows
3.1. The only thing new with XP is that there's now an
enforcement mechanism.

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purplehaz

January 6th 04, 01:37 AM

Good point.

Testy wrote:
> And why are no money hungry lawyers taking MS to court to get their
> greedy little fingers in that billion dollar pie?
>
> Testy
>
> "purplehaz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> David Williams wrote:
>>>> S***, and all this time I thought our gov't decided what's legal or
>>>> not, though passing laws & court decisions. When did we ammend the
>>>> effin' Constitution to give corporations the right to decide what's
>>>> legal or not?
>>>>
>>>
>>> When you agree to the License agreement you are forming a contract
>>> with Microsoft. Also im sure the DCMA covers it.
>>
>> Can you quote court cases that has proved that a "shrink wrap"
>> license is a valid contract? No you cannot as there are no such
>> cases, and why you ask, cause if ms did pursue it and they lost they
>> would lose millions and billions of dollars in revenue. So they just
>> allow everyone to think its a valid contract.
>> Also, since we all know that you cannot form a valid contract with a
>> minor under the age of 18, if anyone under 18 years of age installs
>> it, it is not a contract between them and MS as they are not old
>> enough to enter into a valid contract. So your contract theroy goes
>> out the windows (pun intended).
>>
>>
>
>
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purplehaz

January 6th 04, 01:37 AM

kurttrail wrote:
> By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
> replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
> Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
> ever and ever! Amen!"
>
> David Williams wrote:
>
>>> Sh*t, and all this time I thought our gov't decided what's legal or
>>> not, though passing laws & court decisions. When did we ammend the
>>> effin' Constitution to give corporations the right to decide what's
>>> legal or not?
>>>
>>
>> When you agree to the License agreement you are forming a contract
>> with Microsoft.
>
> Yeah, so? There is no US law that makes breaking a contract illegal,
> in and of itself. And the only legal recourse that one has to try to
> enforce their contract terms on someone that has allegedly broken that
> contract is to try to convince a Judge to agree with you. Since MS
> has never tried to legally enforce their EULA terms on any individual
> in a real court of law ever, no one knows whether MS's EULA terms are
> really legally enforceable on individuals or not.
>
>> Also im sure the DCMA covers it.
>
> Actually the DMCA covers the circumvention of copy protection systems
> under Copyright Law, not shrinkwrap licenses which would be Contract
> Law, so your being sure about it, really doesn't mean sh*t, now does
> it?
>
> "Nothing in this section shall affect rights, remedies, limitations,
> or defenses to copyright infringement, including fair use, under this
> title." - DMCA
>
> David, your gonna have to educate yourself a hell of a lot more, if
> you really want to play with me.
>
> Try reading & understanding:
>
> http://microscum.com/mmpafaq/

Kurt, I love reading your responses to these posts. You have all the right
info, I always forget the best points. :o) Guess I have to visit your site
again to brush up - lol.

kurttrail

January 6th 04, 01:37 AM

"By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"

Testy wrote:

> And why are no money hungry lawyers taking MS to court to get their
> greedy little fingers in that billion dollar pie?
>

And who is gonna fund their fight against MS's billions for the next
decade or so over software that will long be past it's support life by
then?

Why hasn't MS just ever sued just one indivdual to legally enforce it's
terms to prove once and for all that they have the right to tell us want
we can and cannot do in our homes with the retail MS software that was
legally sold to us? That how one legally enforces contract terms, not
with Fear, Uncertainty, & Doubt!

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Evan

January 6th 04, 01:37 AM

before you call me a moron again, jagoff, my point was not that you or
anyone should just blindly follow microsoft. my point is: if you don't dig
'em. why are you hanging around here? it seems to me that you are spending a
lot of energy in negative ways. i mean, you go out of your way to post your
little diatribes here and try to belittle folks when all people are looking
for is a little help. shouldn't you be downloading dependencies or
something?

and don't call me a moron, a$$hole.

evan

"kurttrail" > wrote in message
...
> By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
> replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
> Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
> ever and ever! Amen!"
>
> Evan wrote:
>
> > i just LOVE people who bash M$ but whose e-mail account is hotmail.
> >
>
> That way MS gets any viruses that are sent to me before I get them. ;-)
>
> I had my account before MS bought up Hotmail, and have used it as my
> public email addy since I signed up for it. My junkmail account. My
> private email addy [which you won't ever find out] is only for people I
> know & trust.
>
> As for bashing MS, I just LOVE how some morons, who have no connection
> to MS, get on their high horse, when someone doesn't buy MS's propaganda
> hook, line, & sinker.
>
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>
>

kurttrail

January 6th 04, 01:38 AM

"By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"

Moron Evan, a miserable excuse for a used tampoon, wrote:

> before you call me a moron again, jagoff,

Too late!

"You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes you just might find
You get what you need."

> my point was not that you or
> anyone should just blindly follow microsoft. my point is: if you
> don't dig 'em. why are you hanging around here?

Did MS change the name of this group while I wasn't looking?
microsoft.sycophants.windowsxp.general. I didn't know that you had to
"dig" MS in order to post here.

Why didn't George W. Bush think of that? Only people that "dig" him,
and his doctrine of pre-emptive violence to prevent violence, can live
in the US. LOL!

It's a public forum. I provide others with truthful information that is
contrary to the FUD espoused by MS & it's a**wipes.

> it seems to me that
> you are spending a lot of energy in negative ways.

And how is giving people info on how to protects their rights against
the abuses of a convicted predatory monopoly negative?

> i mean, you go out
> of your way to post your little diatribes here and try to belittle
> folks when all people are looking for is a little help.

You came to me, I didn't go seeking you out. If you can't take the heat
that your replies generate, why do you put yourself in that position in
the first place? And I rarely belittle others undeservedly.

> shouldn't you
> be downloading dependencies or something?

Isn't time to change your Depends or something?

>
> and don't call me a moron, a$$hole.

As a child I learn that "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words
will never hurt me." So call me anything you can dream up! I'm an
a**hole that can't take what he dishes out, not some pansy-assed pussy
like you. "Don't call me a moron." LOL! Did I hit a nerve?

But you're right though, I really shouldn't call you a moron anymore,
because it's an insult to morons everywhere, to be compared with you.

Masochists are really a total effin' bore to spank, so I through with
you.

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Bruce Chambers

January 6th 04, 01:39 AM

Greetings --

Of course not. Multiple computers require multiple OS licenses,
one per machine. Unless, of course, you can qualify for one of
Microsoft's Volume Licensing plans. This is nothing new.

As it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating systems,
it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and copyright
laws, if not technically) to purchase one WinXP license for each
computer on which it is installed. The only way in which WinXP
licensing differs from that of earlier versions of Windows is that
Microsoft has finally added a copy protection and anti-theft
mechanism, Product Activation, to prevent (or at least make more
difficult) multiple installations using a single license.

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"Jim" > wrote in message
...
> Is it legal for me to run my registration of XP Home on
> multiple machines I have without any problems?

kurttrail

January 6th 04, 01:40 AM

"By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"

Bruce Chambers wrote:

<snipped on both ends>

> As it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating systems,
> it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and copyright
> laws, if not technically) to purchase one WinXP license for each
> computer on which it is installed.

http://tinyurl.com/hhjj

You'd think the man that repeated this a few hundred times could come up
with just one US copyright law that an individual wouldn't be in
compliance with by installing legally purchased software on more than
one computer for their own private non-commercial use, but the funny
part is he really can't! ROFL!

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Ian Merrithew

January 6th 04, 01:41 AM

"purplehaz" > wrote in
:

> Can you quote court cases that has proved that a "shrink wrap" license
> is a valid contract?

That'd be interesting; the EULA doesn't grant you any rights you don't
already have under copyright law (rights to install & use), you receive
no other consideration from Microsoft -- hell, they're not even a *party*
to the transaction on retail software sales -- so on what basis is the
binding contract even formed? What's the consideration? What are you
giving Microsoft, and what are they giving you?

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Evan

January 6th 04, 01:42 AM

good job. just a coupla quick points...

> If you can't take the heat
> that your replies generate, why do you put yourself in that position in
> the first place? And I rarely belittle others undeservedly

i wasn't talking about the response you gave me. hell, i can finish what i
start. here's what got my fur a'twitchin'...

(you replying to david) "Actually the DMCA covers the circumvention of copy
protection systems
under Copyright Law, not shrinkwrap licenses which would be Contract
Law, so your being sure about it, really doesn't mean sh*t, now does it?"

jesus, dude, what's that? i know this isn't a love-connection chat room.
okay, so we're not here to make new friends, but why you gotta be a dick?

> I'm an a**hole that can't take what he dishes out, not some pansy-assed
pussy
> like you. "Don't call me a moron." LOL! Did I hit a nerve?

is that what you meant, that you can't take it? or is that a typo? well, at
least you got the a$$hole part right.

oh, and why don't i want you calling me a moron? only my friends get to call
me that, dillweed.

anyways, this is fun. write back soon!

kisses.

"kurttrail" > wrote in message
...
> "By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
> replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
> Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
> ever and ever! Amen!"
>
> Moron Evan, a miserable excuse for a used tampoon, wrote:
>
> > before you call me a moron again, jagoff,
>
> Too late!
>
> "You can't always get what you want
> But if you try sometimes you just might find
> You get what you need."
>
> > my point was not that you or
> > anyone should just blindly follow microsoft. my point is: if you
> > don't dig 'em. why are you hanging around here?
>
> Did MS change the name of this group while I wasn't looking?
> microsoft.sycophants.windowsxp.general. I didn't know that you had to
> "dig" MS in order to post here.
>
> Why didn't George W. Bush think of that? Only people that "dig" him,
> and his doctrine of pre-emptive violence to prevent violence, can live
> in the US. LOL!
>
> It's a public forum. I provide others with truthful information that is
> contrary to the FUD espoused by MS & it's a**wipes.
>
> > it seems to me that
> > you are spending a lot of energy in negative ways.
>
> And how is giving people info on how to protects their rights against
> the abuses of a convicted predatory monopoly negative?
>
> > i mean, you go out
> > of your way to post your little diatribes here and try to belittle
> > folks when all people are looking for is a little help.
>
> You came to me, I didn't go seeking you out. If you can't take the heat
> that your replies generate, why do you put yourself in that position in
> the first place? And I rarely belittle others undeservedly.
>
> > shouldn't you
> > be downloading dependencies or something?
>
> Isn't time to change your Depends or something?
>
> >
> > and don't call me a moron, a$$hole.
>
> As a child I learn that "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words
> will never hurt me." So call me anything you can dream up! I'm an
> a**hole that can't take what he dishes out, not some pansy-assed pussy
> like you. "Don't call me a moron." LOL! Did I hit a nerve?
>
> But you're right though, I really shouldn't call you a moron anymore,
> because it's an insult to morons everywhere, to be compared with you.
>
> Masochists are really a total effin' bore to spank, so I through with
> you.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>
>

kurttrail

January 6th 04, 01:48 AM

"By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"

Evan wrote:

> good job. just a coupla quick points...

Naw. You really aren't worth any effort at all on my part. Verbal
personal attacks on the USENET are really nothing more than trolls to my
way of thinking, but I admit that I like to play around in meaningless
sub-threads from time to time. Had you actually decided to argue
against my opinions, rather than my style, I would have taken this more
seriously. As it is, this is just a modified version of "Yo' Mamma."
Well I got a new rule for this game, do it without resorting to
name-calling.

>
>> If you can't take the heat
>> that your replies generate, why do you put yourself in that position
>> in the first place? And I rarely belittle others undeservedly
>
> i wasn't talking about the response you gave me. hell, i can finish
> what i start. here's what got my fur a'twitchin'...
>
> (you replying to david) "Actually the DMCA covers the circumvention
> of copy protection systems
> under Copyright Law, not shrinkwrap licenses which would be Contract
> Law, so your being sure about it, really doesn't mean sh*t, now does
> it?"
>
> jesus, dude,

There really is no need to publicly acknowledge your acceptance of my
reply EULA. ;-)

> what's that?

Looks like a question to me. What's does it look like to you?

Did you see in David's post, that this question of mine was in reply to,
where David changed my already self-censored exclamation of the word,
"Sh*t?" I saw he was overly sensitive to words like "Sh*t," because he
went through the trouble of censoring the word "Sh*t" even further than
I had already censored it, so I worked the word "Sh*t into my reply to
him. And he deserved even more than he got for saying he was "sure"
about the DMCA, when it's quite obvious that he had absolutely know idea
what the DMCA actually is all about. So I asked if he was still so sure
about it, big effin' deal! If I had written instead, ". . . . so your
being sure about it, really doesn't mean a thing, now does it?" which is
exactly what I meant, would still you be crying over me being such an
a**hole to David? Please!

> i know this isn't a love-connection chat
> room. okay, so we're not here to make new friends, but why you gotta
> be a dick?

Make up your mind, I'm either a dick, or an a**hole. Which is it? Or
don't you know the difference between your a**hole and your dick?

>
>> I'm an a**hole that can't take what he dishes out, not some
>> pansy-assed
> pussy
>> like you. "Don't call me a moron." LOL! Did I hit a nerve?
>
> is that what you meant, that you can't take it? or is that a typo?
> well, at least you got the a$$hole part right.
>
> oh, and why don't i want you calling me a moron? only my friends get
> to call me that,
>

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

My friends may call me an a**hole from time to time, but it wouldn't
even cross their minds to ever call me a moron, and it's not because
they're afraid to hurt my delicate sensibilities either.

> dillweed.

But this is a first, I've never been called a seasoning before. I'm
totally mortified! LOL!

> anyways, this is fun. write back soon!
>
> kisses.

But you forgot the hugs! ;-)

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Frank

January 6th 04, 01:50 AM

"Jim" > wrote in message
...

: Is it legal for me to run my registration of XP Home on
: multiple machines I have without any problems?

This type of post is ludicrous::::::::RTFM

rifleman

January 6th 04, 01:51 AM

In article >,
says...
|
|"Jim" > wrote in message
...
|
|: Is it legal for me to run my registration of XP Home on
|: multiple machines I have without any problems?
|
|This type of post is ludicrous::::::::RTFM
|
|
|
It is - but if there were a legal precedent set, these posts would not
appear!

kurttrail

January 6th 04, 01:52 AM

By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"

Frank wrote:

> "Jim" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Is it legal for me to run my registration of XP Home on
>> multiple machines I have without any problems?
>
> This type of post is ludicrous::::::::RTFM

There's a manual? Would MS's PA FAQ count?

"The only information required to activate is an installation ID (and,
for Office XP and Office XP family products such as Visio 2002, the name
of the country in which the product is being installed)." -
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/mpafaq.asp#details

I don't see where the number of machines XP is installed on fits in with
"the _only_ information required to activate is an installation ID" for
Windows XP, unless the word "_only_," used as an adjective, has some
definition in a parallel MicroUniverse that I'm not aware of.

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kurttrail

January 13th 04, 08:43 PM

Brittanie wrote:

> Copied and pasted from the Windows XP Help File:
>
> "Q. Can I make a second copy of my Microsoft Windows operating
> system software for my portable computer?
>
> A. The answer is generally, "no." Copyright law and the terms of your
> End-User License Agreement (EULA) govern your rights to copy and run
> Microsoft software. In the case of Microsoft Windows operating system
> software, the EULA does not permit you to run more than one copy. If
> your Microsoft operating system software (such as Windows XP
> Professional or Windows XP Home Edition) was supplied to you
> preinstalled on a new computer system by an original equipment
> manufacturer (OEM), different license terms apply. In such cases, you
> may not make a second copy and the software itself is not
> transferable to a different computer system, even if you delete it
> from the original computer system. Please read the EULA contained in
> this software for complete information. Please note that under
> certain Microsoft volume licensing programs intended for businesses,
> you may have different rights. Please consult the agreements that
> govern such programs for complete information."

And the point of what you "copied and pasted" in relation to my post
was?

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