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ausmartin
January 6th 04, 04:05 PM
Your thoughts people on Microsoft after XP

When Microsoft releases the next OS after XP that runs on objects in a
database
and will not be backward compatible. Will it be the end of MS and
should
we all start looking at different OS as Linux or others as per the
following interesting article.

http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html#soft

It appears governments around the world prefer open source.
Even China and India do. As the next two decades will be "China" as
the USA decades where the 60's and 70's should we prepare now not to
be locked in by MS ?

Ta

Carey Frisch [MVP]
January 6th 04, 04:05 PM
Your information is only the result of one person's bias and opinion.
It is not very credible.

Plato
January 6th 04, 04:06 PM
ausmartin wrote:
>
> and will not be backward compatible. Will it be the end of MS and

Yes, MS will design it's one demise. No employees there have a mortgage
to pay or a family to support.

Mike Kolitz
January 6th 04, 04:06 PM
The author of the article you're linking to is suffering from severe reality
distortion, as a result of his own personal bias, as well as a fountain of
misinformation. This article has been around for quite some time, and has
already had enough people go through and point out logistical flaws and
points of misinformation, so I'm not going to bother.

In short, I wouldn't trust this guy's predictions any further than I could
spit a rat.

--
Mike Kolitz MCSE 2000
MS-MVP - Windows Setup and Deployment

Remember to check Windows Update often,
and apply the patches marked as Critical!
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com

"ausmartin" > wrote in message
om...
> Your thoughts people on Microsoft after XP
>
> When Microsoft releases the next OS after XP that runs on objects in a
> database
> and will not be backward compatible. Will it be the end of MS and
> should
> we all start looking at different OS as Linux or others as per the
> following interesting article.
>
> http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html#soft
>
> It appears governments around the world prefer open source.
> Even China and India do. As the next two decades will be "China" as
> the USA decades where the 60's and 70's should we prepare now not to
> be locked in by MS ?
>
> Ta

William Gower
January 6th 04, 04:06 PM
It's interesting that the people who most defend Microsoft and its existence
the most, and believe me I am not a Bill Gates basher, are the ones who
profit by the existence of Microsoft. I am a MSCE, MCT. I have taken more
exams from Microsoft than I care to remember. I know how the Microsoft
Certified People toe the line and say what Microsoft wants them to say. You
certainly don't want to make Microsoft angry when they control your
certifications and sometimes your job depends on certification. I think
that when you say that someone that is against Microsoft is bias, can't the
same be said for those who strongly support Microsoft.

"Mike Kolitz" > wrote in message
...
> The author of the article you're linking to is suffering from severe
reality
> distortion, as a result of his own personal bias, as well as a fountain of
> misinformation. This article has been around for quite some time, and has
> already had enough people go through and point out logistical flaws and
> points of misinformation, so I'm not going to bother.
>
> In short, I wouldn't trust this guy's predictions any further than I could
> spit a rat.
>
> --
> Mike Kolitz MCSE 2000
> MS-MVP - Windows Setup and Deployment
>
> Remember to check Windows Update often,
> and apply the patches marked as Critical!
> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
>
> "ausmartin" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Your thoughts people on Microsoft after XP
> >
> > When Microsoft releases the next OS after XP that runs on objects in a
> > database
> > and will not be backward compatible. Will it be the end of MS and
> > should
> > we all start looking at different OS as Linux or others as per the
> > following interesting article.
> >
> > http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html#soft
> >
> > It appears governments around the world prefer open source.
> > Even China and India do. As the next two decades will be "China" as
> > the USA decades where the 60's and 70's should we prepare now not to
> > be locked in by MS ?
> >
> > Ta
>
>

ausmartin
January 6th 04, 04:07 PM
"Carey Frisch [MVP]" > wrote in message >...
> Your information is only the result of one person's bias and opinion.
> It is not very credible.

Really ?
Please read all, including the foot notes relating to numerous media
outlets and check the sources indep.

mmm After checking past facts - they seem correct. The future well ?
I do hope the information collected about the future direction of
Longhorn is wrong as that will upset an awlful lot of users.

Granted -Yes the person has an unfavorable opinion of MS but that is
why there is freedom of speech and yet it is very suspect as to how MS
has got away with so many antitrust suits. Pity the USA is like
everywhere else Money talks.
Like Ford and Bridgestone. - By the way the Bridgestone tires were not
the main cause but someone had the Money again that time to hire many
lobbists - sounds familar?

Cynical greedy coporate world - Can we change it ? The truth is out
there ....

Mike Kolitz
January 6th 04, 04:29 PM
I can't say with a straight face that I'm not biased *towards* Microsoft, so
everyone should take my arguments for what they're worth. On the other
hand, I have no fear of "making Microsoft angry". I don't believe that they
control my certifications - I paid for the exams and the courses, and I
earned them based on my own knowledge.

If they do something wrong, they deserve to be called on it (**cough**,
**cough**, **security**, **cough**).

I can, however, say with a straight face, that the article the OP cited is
really pretty terrible. It's all based on off-the-wall speculation, which
is what all predictions are - speculation. It just depends on what you use
as a source of information to support that speculation. Statisticians use
raw numbers. The author of that article threw a coin into a wishing well
and proceeded to document his wish. He probably still has his fingers
crossed, just for good luck.

Again, I obviously have some bias towards Microsoft, but it's because I
think they deserve it, not because I think I owe them anything.

--
Mike Kolitz MCSE 2000
MS-MVP - Windows Setup and Deployment

Remember to check Windows Update often,
and apply the patches marked as Critical!
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com

"William Gower" > wrote in message
...
> It's interesting that the people who most defend Microsoft and its
existence
> the most, and believe me I am not a Bill Gates basher, are the ones who
> profit by the existence of Microsoft. I am a MSCE, MCT. I have taken
more
> exams from Microsoft than I care to remember. I know how the Microsoft
> Certified People toe the line and say what Microsoft wants them to say.
You
> certainly don't want to make Microsoft angry when they control your
> certifications and sometimes your job depends on certification. I think
> that when you say that someone that is against Microsoft is bias, can't
the
> same be said for those who strongly support Microsoft.
>
> "Mike Kolitz" > wrote in message
> ...
> > The author of the article you're linking to is suffering from severe
> reality
> > distortion, as a result of his own personal bias, as well as a fountain
of
> > misinformation. This article has been around for quite some time, and
has
> > already had enough people go through and point out logistical flaws and
> > points of misinformation, so I'm not going to bother.
> >
> > In short, I wouldn't trust this guy's predictions any further than I
could
> > spit a rat.
> >
> > --
> > Mike Kolitz MCSE 2000
> > MS-MVP - Windows Setup and Deployment
> >
> > Remember to check Windows Update often,
> > and apply the patches marked as Critical!
> > http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
> >
> > "ausmartin" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > > Your thoughts people on Microsoft after XP
> > >
> > > When Microsoft releases the next OS after XP that runs on objects in a
> > > database
> > > and will not be backward compatible. Will it be the end of MS and
> > > should
> > > we all start looking at different OS as Linux or others as per the
> > > following interesting article.
> > >
> > > http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html#soft
> > >
> > > It appears governments around the world prefer open source.
> > > Even China and India do. As the next two decades will be "China" as
> > > the USA decades where the 60's and 70's should we prepare now not to
> > > be locked in by MS ?
> > >
> > > Ta
> >
> >
>
>

Mike Brannigan [MSFT]
January 6th 04, 04:32 PM
The article regardless of the sources used is riddled with countless errors
and technical inaccuracies.

Just a few of the Examples.
"replacement of the familiar DOS/Windows filesystem with an object database
" - not correct. We are not replacing the file system
"You will no longer copy files to a floppy or CD-ROM or attach them to an
email, because there will be no files" - Wrong the files still exist in a
filesystem
"Database records will be copied from one database to another, probably
through a .NET server. Large organizations will have their own .NET servers,
but everyone else will use one of Microsoft's, a service for which you will
pay a fee." -= all based on the first 2 incorrect statements, so also wrong
"Current Windows based software will not be compatible with the Longhorn
filesystem " - totally wrong. I am running a huge number of Windows
applications on Longhorn without any issues. Certain disk utilities may
have issues but this is often the case with changes to the filesystem.
"Coming with Longhorn is a new user interface, code named Sideshow " -
Wrong - "Sideshow" was a technology demonstrator for a small component that
may be in the new Longhorn User Interface codenamed "Aero"

and so it goes on and on section after section.

With this level of technical inaccuracy - do you actually give any validity
to the article??
Make your own mind up - but first check all of the so called "facts" and
"technical details".

--
Regards,

Mike
--
Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights

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"ausmartin" > wrote in message
om...
> Your thoughts people on Microsoft after XP
>
> When Microsoft releases the next OS after XP that runs on objects in a
> database
> and will not be backward compatible. Will it be the end of MS and
> should
> we all start looking at different OS as Linux or others as per the
> following interesting article.
>
> http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html#soft
>
> It appears governments around the world prefer open source.
> Even China and India do. As the next two decades will be "China" as
> the USA decades where the 60's and 70's should we prepare now not to
> be locked in by MS ?
>
> Ta

RJK
January 6th 04, 04:35 PM
I think that the Microsoft DOS's and Windows platforms have always been
marvellous. They've always taken great care to make sure that lots of
problem solving is required, all the time! See how much work it creates !

regards, Richard


"ausmartin" > wrote in message
om...
> Your thoughts people on Microsoft after XP
>
> When Microsoft releases the next OS after XP that runs on objects in a
> database
> and will not be backward compatible. Will it be the end of MS and
> should
> we all start looking at different OS as Linux or others as per the
> following interesting article.
>
> http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html#soft
>
> It appears governments around the world prefer open source.
> Even China and India do. As the next two decades will be "China" as
> the USA decades where the 60's and 70's should we prepare now not to
> be locked in by MS ?
>
> Ta

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