XP SERVICE PACK 2

[anon]

does anyone have any accurate information as to when xp SP2 will be
released?

i find it astounding that a company such as microsoft has spent so long
since SP1, and yet released SOOOOOO many hotfixes (which clog up the
installed programs details) without just releasing SP2 to clean it all up
earlier than the mid-2004 expected release date (which is the latest
information I have seen about it)

win2000 has had 4 SP's so far, so surely the number of SP's released is
really immaterial. Once enough hotfixes and breaches have been identified
and released, then surely releaseing a complete SP would be more beneficial
to customers and Microsoft alike.

Why should i have to pay repeatedly for failed d/l's (thru dial up) for
hotfixes for an OS i have paid good money for, when they could simply
release SP2 for distribution on CD's thru common outlets, such as
newsagents, etc

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

SP2 is scheduled to be released sometime mid-2004.

Windows Service Pack Road Map
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

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"anon" > wrote in message:
...

| does anyone have any accurate information as to when xp SP2 will be
| released?
|
| i find it astounding that a company such as microsoft has spent so long
| since SP1, and yet released SOOOOOO many hotfixes (which clog up the
| installed programs details) without just releasing SP2 to clean it all up
| earlier than the mid-2004 expected release date (which is the latest
| information I have seen about it)
|
| win2000 has had 4 SP's so far, so surely the number of SP's released is
| really immaterial. Once enough hotfixes and breaches have been identified
| and released, then surely releaseing a complete SP would be more beneficial
| to customers and Microsoft alike.
|
| Why should i have to pay repeatedly for failed d/l's (thru dial up) for
| hotfixes for an OS i have paid good money for, when they could simply
| release SP2 for distribution on CD's thru common outlets, such as
| newsagents, etc

[Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)]

It will be awhile, it is currently being beta tested but at a relatively
early stage.

--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

"anon" > wrote in message ...
> does anyone have any accurate information as to when xp SP2 will be
> released?
>
> i find it astounding that a company such as microsoft has spent so long
> since SP1, and yet released SOOOOOO many hotfixes (which clog up the
> installed programs details) without just releasing SP2 to clean it all up
> earlier than the mid-2004 expected release date (which is the latest
> information I have seen about it)
>
> win2000 has had 4 SP's so far, so surely the number of SP's released is
> really immaterial. Once enough hotfixes and breaches have been identified
> and released, then surely releaseing a complete SP would be more
beneficial
> to customers and Microsoft alike.
>
> Why should i have to pay repeatedly for failed d/l's (thru dial up) for
> hotfixes for an OS i have paid good money for, when they could simply
> release SP2 for distribution on CD's thru common outlets, such as
> newsagents, etc
>
>

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

In addition to SP1, you can download Windows XP Rollup and burn it to
CD:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=826939
The Rollup will give some of the advantages of a Service pack.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
http://dts-l.org/index.html


"anon" > wrote in message
...
> does anyone have any accurate information as to when xp SP2 will be
> released?
>
> i find it astounding that a company such as microsoft has spent so
long
> since SP1, and yet released SOOOOOO many hotfixes (which clog up the
> installed programs details) without just releasing SP2 to clean it
all up
> earlier than the mid-2004 expected release date (which is the latest
> information I have seen about it)
>
> win2000 has had 4 SP's so far, so surely the number of SP's released
is
> really immaterial. Once enough hotfixes and breaches have been
identified
> and released, then surely releaseing a complete SP would be more
beneficial
> to customers and Microsoft alike.
>
> Why should i have to pay repeatedly for failed d/l's (thru dial up)
for
> hotfixes for an OS i have paid good money for, when they could
simply
> release SP2 for distribution on CD's thru common outlets, such as
> newsagents, etc
>
>

[Sharon F]

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:22:19 +1000, anon wrote:

> does anyone have any accurate information as to when xp SP2 will be
> released?

Next year.

--
Sharon F
MS MVP - Windows XP Shell/User

[Ken Blake]

In ,
anon > typed:

> does anyone have any accurate information as to when xp SP2
will be
> released?


No, no-one has. There are only estimates. The beta is about to
begin, and the release is probably about six months off.


--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

[Mike Brannigan [MSFT]]

We will release SP2 when it has been through a full testing cycle to ensure
the quality and stability of this major release.
We did a roll-up package a while ago that rolls up a number of the currently
available hotfixes etc.

However SP2 is much more then a roll-up of hotfixes, so we have to do
significantly more testing on the product.
You can see how much more is in SP2 if you have a look at this document
available for download
Changes to Functionality in Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/7/9/879a7b46-5ddb-4a82-b64d-64e791b3c9ae/WinXPSP2_Documentation.doc
--

--
Regards,

Mike
--
Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights

Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions, please use these
newsgroups

"anon" > wrote in message ...
> does anyone have any accurate information as to when xp SP2 will be
> released?
>
> i find it astounding that a company such as microsoft has spent so long
> since SP1, and yet released SOOOOOO many hotfixes (which clog up the
> installed programs details) without just releasing SP2 to clean it all up
> earlier than the mid-2004 expected release date (which is the latest
> information I have seen about it)
>
> win2000 has had 4 SP's so far, so surely the number of SP's released is
> really immaterial. Once enough hotfixes and breaches have been identified
> and released, then surely releaseing a complete SP would be more
beneficial
> to customers and Microsoft alike.
>
> Why should i have to pay repeatedly for failed d/l's (thru dial up) for
> hotfixes for an OS i have paid good money for, when they could simply
> release SP2 for distribution on CD's thru common outlets, such as
> newsagents, etc
>
>

[Charlie]

Read all about the SP2 beta release and view several screenshots and there
may be a download link in there somewhere.

1. http://www.neowin.net/

Before anyone screams I must mention the mandatory and boring disclaimer
that beta software is not intended for everyday use especially if you have
only one PC and / or are not willing to format and start over.

Some folks love to do this stuff so good for them...I don't but this site is
a great one for keeping up with computing news both PC and Mac

--

Charlie in Mississippi
(driftin' blues player and gospel picker)




"Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" > wrote in message
...
> We will release SP2 when it has been through a full testing cycle to
ensure
> the quality and stability of this major release.
> We did a roll-up package a while ago that rolls up a number of the
currently
> available hotfixes etc.
>
> However SP2 is much more then a roll-up of hotfixes, so we have to do
> significantly more testing on the product.
> You can see how much more is in SP2 if you have a look at this document
> available for download
> Changes to Functionality in Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2
>
http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/7/9/879a7b46-5ddb-4a82-b64d-64e791b3c9ae/WinXPSP2_Documentation.doc
> --
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Mike
> --
> Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights
>
> Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions, please use these
> newsgroups
>
> "anon" > wrote in message ...
> > does anyone have any accurate information as to when xp SP2 will be
> > released?
> >
> > i find it astounding that a company such as microsoft has spent so long
> > since SP1, and yet released SOOOOOO many hotfixes (which clog up the
> > installed programs details) without just releasing SP2 to clean it all
up
> > earlier than the mid-2004 expected release date (which is the latest
> > information I have seen about it)
> >
> > win2000 has had 4 SP's so far, so surely the number of SP's released is
> > really immaterial. Once enough hotfixes and breaches have been
identified
> > and released, then surely releaseing a complete SP would be more
> beneficial
> > to customers and Microsoft alike.
> >
> > Why should i have to pay repeatedly for failed d/l's (thru dial up) for
> > hotfixes for an OS i have paid good money for, when they could simply
> > release SP2 for distribution on CD's thru common outlets, such as
> > newsagents, etc
> >
> >
>
>

[John E. Carty]

"Charlie" > wrote in message
...
> Read all about the SP2 beta release and view several screenshots and there
> may be a download link in there somewhere.

Tells you right on the front page that there will be no download links and
not to bother asking for one :-)


>
> 1. http://www.neowin.net/
>
> Before anyone screams I must mention the mandatory and boring disclaimer
> that beta software is not intended for everyday use especially if you have
> only one PC and / or are not willing to format and start over.
>
> Some folks love to do this stuff so good for them...I don't but this site
is
> a great one for keeping up with computing news both PC and Mac
>
> --
>
> Charlie in Mississippi
> (driftin' blues player and gospel picker)
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > We will release SP2 when it has been through a full testing cycle to
> ensure
> > the quality and stability of this major release.
> > We did a roll-up package a while ago that rolls up a number of the
> currently
> > available hotfixes etc.
> >
> > However SP2 is much more then a roll-up of hotfixes, so we have to do
> > significantly more testing on the product.
> > You can see how much more is in SP2 if you have a look at this document
> > available for download
> > Changes to Functionality in Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2
> >
>
http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/7/9/879a7b46-5ddb-4a82-b64d-64e791b3c9ae/WinXPSP2_Documentation.doc
> > --
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mike
> > --
> > Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
> >
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > rights
> >
> > Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions, please use these
> > newsgroups
> >
> > "anon" > wrote in message
...
> > > does anyone have any accurate information as to when xp SP2 will be
> > > released?
> > >
> > > i find it astounding that a company such as microsoft has spent so
long
> > > since SP1, and yet released SOOOOOO many hotfixes (which clog up the
> > > installed programs details) without just releasing SP2 to clean it all
> up
> > > earlier than the mid-2004 expected release date (which is the latest
> > > information I have seen about it)
> > >
> > > win2000 has had 4 SP's so far, so surely the number of SP's released
is
> > > really immaterial. Once enough hotfixes and breaches have been
> identified
> > > and released, then surely releaseing a complete SP would be more
> > beneficial
> > > to customers and Microsoft alike.
> > >
> > > Why should i have to pay repeatedly for failed d/l's (thru dial up)
for
> > > hotfixes for an OS i have paid good money for, when they could simply
> > > release SP2 for distribution on CD's thru common outlets, such as
> > > newsagents, etc
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[David Williams]

"Charlie" > wrote in message
...
> Read all about the SP2 beta release and view several screenshots and there
> may be a download link in there somewhere.
>
> 1. http://www.neowin.net/
>
>

It is Neowin's policy to not have download links to betas, as they have had
loads of problems before when giving links to unsupported Microsoft
products. Including entire deletion of their website.

[Larc]

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 15:22:33 GMT, John E. Carty pondered exceedingly, then took
quill in hand and carefully composed...

|
| "Charlie" > wrote in message
| ...
| > Read all about the SP2 beta release and view several screenshots and there
| > may be a download link in there somewhere.
|
| Tells you right on the front page that there will be no download links and
| not to bother asking for one :-)

Not on their site perhaps, but there will be plenty of places the SP2 beta will
be available if somebody wants to risk using it. I'll pass, though, since I'd
rather wait until the official release when at least a few of the bugs will have
been weeded out — hopefully ALL the major ones!

Larc



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[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

And it is Microsoft that drives that policy since SP2 is Microsoft
property and anyone distributing it without Microsoft authorization is
essentially dealing in stolen property (piracy)

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
http://dts-l.org/index.html


"David Williams" >
wrote in message news:%
> It is Neowin's policy to not have download links to betas, as they
have had
> loads of problems before when giving links to unsupported Microsoft
> products. Including entire deletion of their website.