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kurttrail
January 6th 04, 07:58 PM
Does Microsoft's post-sale EULA make it illegal to install Windows XP on
more than one computer?
If you are talking about illegal under the law, then absolutely not.
Illegal - against the law: forbidden by law -
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/illegal.html
There is no US law that forbids the installing of software on more than
one computer.
Illegal! LOL! At most it's just a simple contract dispute. And how
would MS be able to logically sue someone, to enforce the terms of the
EULA, if that someone pays with cash and never register with MS?
Remember, "Activation is completely anonymous." MS can't even prove
that someone even bought XP, let alone whether they breeched the EULA!
All I know is, if I were offering consumers a *real* license for my
copyrighted material, I'd find out who the hell they were before they
got a hold of a copy, so I could both logically & legally enforce my
license terms by pursuing legal action, if that ever became necessary.
MS's post-sale retail EULA's usage terms are nothing more than a
vapor-license. All words, and no substance. And Product Activation is
just some more smoke and mirrors to try to magically fool people into
thinking that the post-sale "vapor-license" is a real binding contract.
Vapor-contract-enforcement for a "vapor-license."
Can anyone say that "the Emperor has no clothes?"
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David Williams
January 6th 04, 07:59 PM
"kurttrail" > wrote in message
...
> Does Microsoft's post-sale EULA make it illegal to install Windows XP on
> more than one computer?
>
> If you are talking about illegal under the law, then absolutely not.
>
> Illegal - against the law: forbidden by law -
> http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/illegal.html
>
> There is no US law that forbids the installing of software on more than
> one computer.
>
> Illegal! LOL! At most it's just a simple contract dispute. And how
> would MS be able to logically sue someone, to enforce the terms of the
> EULA, if that someone pays with cash and never register with MS?
> Remember, "Activation is completely anonymous." MS can't even prove
> that someone even bought XP, let alone whether they breeched the EULA!
>
> All I know is, if I were offering consumers a *real* license for my
> copyrighted material, I'd find out who the hell they were before they
> got a hold of a copy, so I could both logically & legally enforce my
> license terms by pursuing legal action, if that ever became necessary.
>
> MS's post-sale retail EULA's usage terms are nothing more than a
> vapor-license. All words, and no substance. And Product Activation is
> just some more smoke and mirrors to try to magically fool people into
> thinking that the post-sale "vapor-license" is a real binding contract.
> Vapor-contract-enforcement for a "vapor-license."
>
> Can anyone say that "the Emperor has no clothes?"
>
Look this is a place to help people with problems. Not for you to constantly
argue about the EULA 24/7 as if it were your job to do so. You have made so
many posts over the last 48 hours repeating the same thing over and over
again. Why bother? If you think the EULA is unjust don't tell people who are
looking for support with Windows XP, tell the people who care, tell your
government, tell Microsoft, tell a lawyer. But now that you have told us
once (well a lot more often than once), you don't have to tell us again.
kurttrail
January 6th 04, 07:59 PM
"By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"
David Williams wrote:
> "kurttrail" > wrote in
> message ...
>> Does Microsoft's post-sale EULA make it illegal to install Windows
>> XP on more than one computer?
>>
>> If you are talking about illegal under the law, then absolutely not.
>>
>> Illegal - against the law: forbidden by law -
>> http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/illegal.html
>>
>> There is no US law that forbids the installing of software on more
>> than one computer.
>>
>> Illegal! LOL! At most it's just a simple contract dispute. And how
>> would MS be able to logically sue someone, to enforce the terms of
>> the EULA, if that someone pays with cash and never register with MS?
>> Remember, "Activation is completely anonymous." MS can't even prove
>> that someone even bought XP, let alone whether they breeched the
>> EULA!
>>
>> All I know is, if I were offering consumers a *real* license for my
>> copyrighted material, I'd find out who the hell they were before they
>> got a hold of a copy, so I could both logically & legally enforce my
>> license terms by pursuing legal action, if that ever became
>> necessary.
>>
>> MS's post-sale retail EULA's usage terms are nothing more than a
>> vapor-license. All words, and no substance. And Product Activation
>> is just some more smoke and mirrors to try to magically fool people
>> into thinking that the post-sale "vapor-license" is a real binding
>> contract. Vapor-contract-enforcement for a "vapor-license."
>>
>> Can anyone say that "the Emperor has no clothes?"
>>
>
> Look this is a place to help people with problems. Not for you to
> constantly argue about the EULA 24/7 as if it were your job to do so.
> You have made so many posts over the last 48 hours repeating the same
> thing over and over again. Why bother? If you think the EULA is
> unjust don't tell people who are looking for support with Windows XP,
> tell the people who care, tell your government, tell Microsoft, tell
> a lawyer. But now that you have told us once (well a lot more often
> than once), you don't have to tell us again.
LOL! People come and go every day. I post for them, not the regulars
of this group. I do post about the EULA a lot, but you've got to admit
that I have many different ways of saying it.
Want to hide from my posts, please feel free to add me to your blocked
senders list. If you don't know how, I'd be glad to help out.
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Dr. Bob Newhart
January 6th 04, 07:59 PM
Poor Kurt is pathetically a legend in his own mind. But, he truly is a troll that has no credibility. It's sad, but he really needs some counselling.
Dr. Bob
----- David Williams wrote: -----
"kurttrail" > wrote in message
...
> Does Microsoft's post-sale EULA make it illegal to install Windows XP on
> more than one computer?
>> If you are talking about illegal under the law, then absolutely not.
>> Illegal - against the law: forbidden by law -
> http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/illegal.html
>> There is no US law that forbids the installing of software on more than
> one computer.
>> Illegal! LOL! At most it's just a simple contract dispute. And how
> would MS be able to logically sue someone, to enforce the terms of the
> EULA, if that someone pays with cash and never register with MS?
> Remember, "Activation is completely anonymous." MS can't even prove
> that someone even bought XP, let alone whether they breeched the EULA!
>> All I know is, if I were offering consumers a *real* license for my
> copyrighted material, I'd find out who the hell they were before they
> got a hold of a copy, so I could both logically & legally enforce my
> license terms by pursuing legal action, if that ever became necessary.
>> MS's post-sale retail EULA's usage terms are nothing more than a
> vapor-license. All words, and no substance. And Product Activation is
> just some more smoke and mirrors to try to magically fool people into
> thinking that the post-sale "vapor-license" is a real binding contract.
> Vapor-contract-enforcement for a "vapor-license."
>> Can anyone say that "the Emperor has no clothes?"
>
Look this is a place to help people with problems. Not for you to constantly
argue about the EULA 24/7 as if it were your job to do so. You have made so
many posts over the last 48 hours repeating the same thing over and over
again. Why bother? If you think the EULA is unjust don't tell people who are
looking for support with Windows XP, tell the people who care, tell your
government, tell Microsoft, tell a lawyer. But now that you have told us
once (well a lot more often than once), you don't have to tell us again.
kurttrail
January 6th 04, 07:59 PM
"By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"
Dr. Bob Newhart wrote:
> Poor Kurt is pathetically a legend in his own mind. But, he
> truly is a troll that has no credibility. It's sad, but he really
> needs some counselling.
>
> Dr. Bob
And that would be the psychiatric opinion of an fictional TV character.
Obviously, it must be true! LOL!
And I'm the one that's supposed to have "no credibility!" PMSL!
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kurttrail
January 6th 04, 08:00 PM
"By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"
Dr. Bob wrote:
> Still in denial, huh? Sad.
Hell no! It's not sad at all. It's hysterical. I'm in denial, but
you're the one that's hiding behind an imaginary character. ROFL!
Please stop! You're driven me way past the border of incontinence, I'm
laughing so hard at you!
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Dr. Bob
January 6th 04, 08:00 PM
As a legend in your own mind, you are also hiding behind an imaginary character. Because you can't face reality.
You are still in denial. You are still a troll.
You LOL, you ROFL, but it's still a result of your inadequacies.
You are the only one who takes yourself seriously.
You can overcome your incontinence by wearing depends.
It's funny you always think you have the last word.
Which part of your parents' basement are you stuck in?
ROFL. You are really a pathetic trip.
BTW, your web site sucks. ROFL.
----- kurttrail wrote: -----
Dr. Bob wrote:
> Still in denial, huh? Sad.
Hell no! It's not sad at all. It's hysterical. I'm in denial, but
you're the one that's hiding behind an imaginary character. ROFL!
Please stop! You're driven me way past the border of incontinence, I'm
laughing so hard at you!
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kurttrail
January 6th 04, 08:01 PM
"By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"
Dr. Bob wrote:
> As a legend in your own mind, you are also hiding behind an imaginary
> character.
That's right. Just like the voices in your head, I'm imaginary. What
you should really be asking yourself is why your mind made me up?
> Because you can't face reality.
I don't have to, since I'm just a figment of your imagination.
> You are still in denial.
I'm where ever you want me to be.
> You are still a troll.
I'm whoever you want me to be.
> You LOL, you ROFL, but it's still a result of your inadequacies.
Which are just a manifestation of your own. The subconscious is a funny
thing.
> You are the only one who takes yourself seriously.
Whatever you say. I wouldn't take your delusions seriously either, if I
weren't a creation of them.
> You can overcome your incontinence by wearing depends.
I'm sure that's just how you see me in your mind.
> It's funny you always think you have the last word.
Please! Even in your rather limited imagination you should know that I
could never confine myself to only having the last word. More like the
few sentences, at the very least.
> Which part of your parents' basement are you stuck in?
Which ever part you want to imagine me stuck in.
> ROFL. You are really a pathetic trip.
Mushrooms or LSD?
> BTW, your web site sucks. ROFL.
You really know how to hurt an imaginary person! PMSL!
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Dr. Bob
January 6th 04, 08:01 PM
I'd just like to apologize for letting my imagination run
amok. I should take my meds on a more regular basis.
I'll be alright.
----- kurttrail wrote: -----
Dr. Bob wrote:
> As a legend in your own mind, you are also hiding behind
an imaginary
> character.
That's right. Just like the voices in your head, I'm
imaginary. What
you should really be asking yourself is why your mind made
me up?
> Because you can't face reality.
I don't have to, since I'm just a figment of your
imagination.
> You are still in denial.
I'm where ever you want me to be.
> You are still a troll.
I'm whoever you want me to be.
> You LOL, you ROFL, but it's still a result of your
inadequacies.
Which are just a manifestation of your own. The
subconscious is a funny
thing.
> You are the only one who takes yourself seriously.
Whatever you say. I wouldn't take your delusions
seriously either, if I
weren't a creation of them.
> You can overcome your incontinence by wearing depends.
I'm sure that's just how you see me in your mind.
> It's funny you always think you have the last word.
Please! Even in your rather limited imagination you
should know that I
could never confine myself to only having the last word.
More like the
few sentences, at the very least.
> Which part of your parents' basement are you stuck in?
Which ever part you want to imagine me stuck in.
> ROFL. You are really a pathetic trip.
Mushrooms or LSD?
> BTW, your web site sucks. ROFL.
You really know how to hurt an imaginary person! PMSL!
--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
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Oxymoron!
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Dr. Bob
January 6th 04, 09:31 PM
Still in denial, huh? Sad.
----- kurttrail wrote: -----
"By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"
Dr. Bob Newhart wrote:
> Poor Kurt is pathetically a legend in his own mind. But, he
> truly is a troll that has no credibility. It's sad, but he really
> needs some counselling.
>> Dr. Bob
And that would be the psychiatric opinion of an fictional TV character.
Obviously, it must be true! LOL!
And I'm the one that's supposed to have "no credibility!" PMSL!
--
Peace!
Kurt
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