More security required!!

[Ian Marshall]

The recent posts about lost passwords tell me how my
teenage son has been turning off the password I have set
as a penalty for bad behaviour. (XP PC four accounts,
great)

So how do I stop him rebooting in safe mode??!!

I am looking to set up something very secure and can keep
passwords safe away from the PC.

TIA

Ian

[Jupiter Jones]

Ian;
Let him get to Safe Mode.
But first you go to Safe Mode and log in as Administrator.
Then go to User Accounts in Control Panel.
Select Administrator and then choose the option to set a password.

Then if you wish (I think I might), change all the passwords,
including his.
Keep him out for a few days or a week.

Make and enforce some guidelines for computer use.

Also there are ways around the password with the right tools.

--
Jupiter Jones
An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.


"Ian Marshall" > wrote in message
...
> The recent posts about lost passwords tell me how my
> teenage son has been turning off the password I have set
> as a penalty for bad behaviour. (XP PC four accounts,
> great)
>
> So how do I stop him rebooting in safe mode??!!
>
> I am looking to set up something very secure and can keep
> passwords safe away from the PC.
>
> TIA
>
> Ian

[Roger Abell [MVP]]

But these tools just mentioned can (most of them) be prevented=20
by setting the machine (in the BIOS) to not allowing boot from=20
floppy, and setting a password on the BIOS.

--=20
Roger=20

"Jupiter Jones" > wrote in message =
...
> Ian;
> Let him get to Safe Mode.
> But first you go to Safe Mode and log in as Administrator.
> Then go to User Accounts in Control Panel.
> Select Administrator and then choose the option to set a password.
>=20
> Then if you wish (I think I might), change all the passwords,
> including his.
> Keep him out for a few days or a week.
>=20
> Make and enforce some guidelines for computer use.
>=20
> Also there are ways around the password with the right tools.
>=20
> --=20
> Jupiter Jones
> An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.
>=20
>=20
> "Ian Marshall" > wrote in message
> ...
> > The recent posts about lost passwords tell me how my
> > teenage son has been turning off the password I have set
> > as a penalty for bad behaviour. (XP PC four accounts,
> > great)
> >
> > So how do I stop him rebooting in safe mode??!!
> >
> > I am looking to set up something very secure and can keep
> > passwords safe away from the PC.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Ian
>=20
>

[Jupiter Jones]

Thank you Roger.
That is at least twice today I missed a not so trivial detail.
Unfortunately if the kid has physical unrestricted access...

--
Jupiter Jones
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http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
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"Roger Abell [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
But these tools just mentioned can (most of them) be prevented
by setting the machine (in the BIOS) to not allowing boot from
floppy, and setting a password on the BIOS.

--
Roger

"Jupiter Jones" > wrote in message
...
> Ian;
> Let him get to Safe Mode.
> But first you go to Safe Mode and log in as Administrator.
> Then go to User Accounts in Control Panel.
> Select Administrator and then choose the option to set a password.
>
> Then if you wish (I think I might), change all the passwords,
> including his.
> Keep him out for a few days or a week.
>
> Make and enforce some guidelines for computer use.
>
> Also there are ways around the password with the right tools.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones
> An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.
>
>
> "Ian Marshall" > wrote in message
> ...
> > The recent posts about lost passwords tell me how my
> > teenage son has been turning off the password I have set
> > as a penalty for bad behaviour. (XP PC four accounts,
> > great)
> >
> > So how do I stop him rebooting in safe mode??!!
> >
> > I am looking to set up something very secure and can keep
> > passwords safe away from the PC.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Ian
>
>

[Roger Abell [MVP]]

No problem. The answer seemed so good I could not=20
resist adding to strengthen the recommendations some.

As you note, if they really want in and can crack into=20
the case, they will still have other alternatives.

--=20
Roger=20

"Jupiter Jones" > wrote in message =
...
> Thank you Roger.
> That is at least twice today I missed a not so trivial detail.
> Unfortunately if the kid has physical unrestricted access...
>=20
> --=20
> Jupiter Jones
> An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.
>=20
>=20
> "Roger Abell [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> But these tools just mentioned can (most of them) be prevented
> by setting the machine (in the BIOS) to not allowing boot from
> floppy, and setting a password on the BIOS.
>=20
> --=20
> Roger
>=20
> "Jupiter Jones" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Ian;
> > Let him get to Safe Mode.
> > But first you go to Safe Mode and log in as Administrator.
> > Then go to User Accounts in Control Panel.
> > Select Administrator and then choose the option to set a password.
> >
> > Then if you wish (I think I might), change all the passwords,
> > including his.
> > Keep him out for a few days or a week.
> >
> > Make and enforce some guidelines for computer use.
> >
> > Also there are ways around the password with the right tools.
> >
> > --=20
> > Jupiter Jones
> > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.
> >
> >
> > "Ian Marshall" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > The recent posts about lost passwords tell me how my
> > > teenage son has been turning off the password I have set
> > > as a penalty for bad behaviour. (XP PC four accounts,
> > > great)
> > >
> > > So how do I stop him rebooting in safe mode??!!
> > >
> > > I am looking to set up something very secure and can keep
> > > passwords safe away from the PC.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Ian
> >
> >
>=20
>

[Jupiter Jones]

Roger;
The bottom line here is the same for home and business.
Strict polices for computer use with appropriate action taken when
they are violated.
Make it very unpleasant to break the rules.

--
Jupiter Jones
Check the following link for some great problem solving newsgroups.
http://support.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.aspx
Please respond to newsgroup only. Everyone can benefit from the
message.


"Roger Abell [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
No problem. The answer seemed so good I could not
resist adding to strengthen the recommendations some.

As you note, if they really want in and can crack into
the case, they will still have other alternatives.

--
Roger

"Jupiter Jones" > wrote in message
...
> Thank you Roger.
> That is at least twice today I missed a not so trivial detail.
> Unfortunately if the kid has physical unrestricted access...
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones
> An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.
>
>
> "Roger Abell [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> But these tools just mentioned can (most of them) be prevented
> by setting the machine (in the BIOS) to not allowing boot from
> floppy, and setting a password on the BIOS.
>
> --
> Roger
>
> "Jupiter Jones" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Ian;
> > Let him get to Safe Mode.
> > But first you go to Safe Mode and log in as Administrator.
> > Then go to User Accounts in Control Panel.
> > Select Administrator and then choose the option to set a password.
> >
> > Then if you wish (I think I might), change all the passwords,
> > including his.
> > Keep him out for a few days or a week.
> >
> > Make and enforce some guidelines for computer use.
> >
> > Also there are ways around the password with the right tools.
> >
> > --
> > Jupiter Jones
> > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.
> >
> >
> > "Ian Marshall" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > The recent posts about lost passwords tell me how my
> > > teenage son has been turning off the password I have set
> > > as a penalty for bad behaviour. (XP PC four accounts,
> > > great)
> > >
> > > So how do I stop him rebooting in safe mode??!!
> > >
> > > I am looking to set up something very secure and can keep
> > > passwords safe away from the PC.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Ian
> >
> >
>
>