Network Share

[Adam]

I'm running Windows XP Pro on a workgroup network. I
have NTFS file system and I am using the "advanced file
sharing".

I want to be able to password protect the folders that I
share on the network. I've tried playing around with the
share permissions and the security tab, but can't work it
out.

Can anybody help me please??

Cheers
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[Roger Abell [MVP]]

In the NT family of OSs everything is controlled by accounts.
You grant access to shares and also to the underlying shared=20
NTFS area to accounts or groups that contain the accounts.
In a workgroup a machine only knows of its own accounts,=20
so you must grant to these and provide those accounts to=20
those who should be able to access the shared files.

--=20
Roger=20

"Adam" > wrote in message =
...
> I'm running Windows XP Pro on a workgroup network. I=20
> have NTFS file system and I am using the "advanced file=20
> sharing".
>=20
> I want to be able to password protect the folders that I=20
> share on the network. I've tried playing around with the=20
> share permissions and the security tab, but can't work it=20
> out.
>=20
> Can anybody help me please??
>=20
> Cheers
> Ad-

[Kevin]

It really should be that simple I agree, but this does not appear to be what
happens.

I have tried what I think is every logical way to grant access to a remote
client and nothing appears to work except dropping all security.

I have a notebook with a user account - username is username and password is
password
I go to my desktop machine and create an identical user account, same
username, same password
I create a shared folder and edit the shared settings. I remove 'everyone'
and add my new user
I then go back to the notebook and the share has appeared in My Network
Places
I double click the shared folder and XP tells me the directory is not
accessible

On the desktop machine, I can only create local users and add them to
groups. I can not add remote users
I can create a local user and then give that user remote access
capabilities. Having done this, I can use remote desktop on the desktop
machine and I have full access to EVERYTHING!
But I can't get access to a shared folder with password protection.

It is such a simple thing that everyone is trying to do, but for some reason
it is just not logical or not possible.

Why can't I just create a folder and share it with another machine and only
that machine?
If I can't share it with another machien on the network, then why can't I
just create a username and password and be prompted when I try to access it.
Security on a network is such a basic need of almost everyone. It is easy to
hide things in XP, but appears to be almost impossible to share things in a
restricted manner.

Does anyone have restricted access to a shared folder that can tell us how
it was done?

Thanks, Kevin.

"Roger Abell [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
In the NT family of OSs everything is controlled by accounts.
You grant access to shares and also to the underlying shared
NTFS area to accounts or groups that contain the accounts.
In a workgroup a machine only knows of its own accounts,
so you must grant to these and provide those accounts to
those who should be able to access the shared files.

--
Roger

"Adam" > wrote in message
...
> I'm running Windows XP Pro on a workgroup network. I
> have NTFS file system and I am using the "advanced file
> sharing".
>
> I want to be able to password protect the folders that I
> share on the network. I've tried playing around with the
> share permissions and the security tab, but can't work it
> out.
>
> Can anybody help me please??
>
> Cheers
> Ad-

[Roger Abell [MVP]]

Kevin,

You have not said whether you have Home or Pro.
The original poster has Pro so information that does=20
work with Pro was provided.
Also, you did not mention that, for sure, you do not=20
have firewalls in the way (it appears not as you see=20
the new share).
A few other comments are within
--=20
Roger=20

"Kevin" > wrote in message =
rthlink.net...
> It really should be that simple I agree, but this does not appear to =
be what
> happens.
>=20
> I have tried what I think is every logical way to grant access to a =
remote
> client and nothing appears to work except dropping all security.
>=20
should not be necessary to drop all, but you would have to=20
drop the MS provided firewall

> I have a notebook with a user account - username is username and =
password is
> password
> I go to my desktop machine and create an identical user account, same
> username, same password
good

> I create a shared folder and edit the shared settings. I remove =
'everyone'
> and add my new user
That is at the share level - have you verified the underlying NTFS=20
permissions ? Both must allow the access.

> I then go back to the notebook and the share has appeared in My =
Network
> Places
> I double click the shared folder and XP tells me the directory is not
> accessible
>=20

> On the desktop machine, I can only create local users and add them to
> groups. I can not add remote users
Yes, that is how it is without a domain.

> I can create a local user and then give that user remote access
> capabilities. Having done this, I can use remote desktop on the =
desktop
> machine and I have full access to EVERYTHING!
When remote logged in it has identical access permissions as when=20
it is logged in at the real keyboard.

> But I can't get access to a shared folder with password protection.
What version of XP and if Pro simple sharing is off ?=20
If Home or Pro and it is on, then the Guest account needs to=20
have NTFS permission on what is being accessed via a share.
=20
> It is such a simple thing that everyone is trying to do, but for some =
reason
> it is just not logical or not possible.
>=20
Possible, just needlessly complicated by versions and sharing=20
model, plus network connectivity issues.

> Why can't I just create a folder and share it with another machine and =
only
> that machine?
Sharing is based on user accounts not machines.

> If I can't share it with another machien on the network, then why =
can't I
> just create a username and password and be prompted when I try to =
access it.
That is how it is supposed to work. If you are not logged in with and =
account=20
that matches then you should be prompted for an account/password.

> Security on a network is such a basic need of almost everyone. It is =
easy to
> hide things in XP, but appears to be almost impossible to share things =
in a
> restricted manner.
>=20
> Does anyone have restricted access to a shared folder that can tell us =
how
> it was done?
>=20
> Thanks, Kevin.
>=20
> "Roger Abell [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> In the NT family of OSs everything is controlled by accounts.
> You grant access to shares and also to the underlying shared
> NTFS area to accounts or groups that contain the accounts.
> In a workgroup a machine only knows of its own accounts,
> so you must grant to these and provide those accounts to
> those who should be able to access the shared files.
>=20
> --=20
> Roger
>=20
> "Adam" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'm running Windows XP Pro on a workgroup network. I
> > have NTFS file system and I am using the "advanced file
> > sharing".
> >
> > I want to be able to password protect the folders that I
> > share on the network. I've tried playing around with the
> > share permissions and the security tab, but can't work it
> > out.
> >
> > Can anybody help me please??
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ad-
>=20
>

[qadmin]

Hi

To start. I=B4m not so good in english so ...

I=B4think that u have the same problem i had earlyer.

Try this.

Enable the guest account. This let any one get to our=20
computer without login. Just to see the u kan reatch the=20
computer.

In xp under useraccount u can edit something like mangage=20
my networkpassword. This is the main problem.

Add or edit or even remove password/servers in here. Even=20
if no password/server is in here. Try to add or remove=20
accounts in here.

Try to connect an share.

Now u should ask to giwe your password and user for to=20
able to browse teh other computer. User format server\user

The inside xp u can set the security u whant for the=20
folder but u should keep everyone full control for the=20
share.

//Peter=20


>-----Original Message-----
>It really should be that simple I agree, but this does=20
not appear to be what
>happens.
>
>I have tried what I think is every logical way to grant=20
access to a remote
>client and nothing appears to work except dropping all=20
security.
>
>I have a notebook with a user account - username is=20
username and password is
>password
>I go to my desktop machine and create an identical user=20
account, same
>username, same password
>I create a shared folder and edit the shared settings. I=20
remove 'everyone'
>and add my new user
>I then go back to the notebook and the share has=20
appeared in My Network
>Places
>I double click the shared folder and XP tells me the=20
directory is not
>accessible
>
>On the desktop machine, I can only create local users=20
and add them to
>groups. I can not add remote users
>I can create a local user and then give that user remote=20
access
>capabilities. Having done this, I can use remote desktop=20
on the desktop
>machine and I have full access to EVERYTHING!
>But I can't get access to a shared folder with password=20
protection.
>
>It is such a simple thing that everyone is trying to do,=20
but for some reason
>it is just not logical or not possible.
>
>Why can't I just create a folder and share it with=20
another machine and only
>that machine?
>If I can't share it with another machien on the network,=20
then why can't I
>just create a username and password and be prompted when=20
I try to access it.
>Security on a network is such a basic need of almost=20
everyone. It is easy to
>hide things in XP, but appears to be almost impossible=20
to share things in a
>restricted manner.
>
>Does anyone have restricted access to a shared folder=20
that can tell us how
>it was done?
>
>Thanks, Kevin.
>
>"Roger Abell [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
>In the NT family of OSs everything is controlled by=20
accounts.
>You grant access to shares and also to the underlying=20
shared
>NTFS area to accounts or groups that contain the=20
accounts.
>In a workgroup a machine only knows of its own accounts,
>so you must grant to these and provide those accounts to
>those who should be able to access the shared files.
>
>--=20
>Roger
>
>"Adam" > wrote in message
...
>> I'm running Windows XP Pro on a workgroup network. I
>> have NTFS file system and I am using the "advanced file
>> sharing".
>>
>> I want to be able to password protect the folders that=20
I
>> share on the network. I've tried playing around with=20
the
>> share permissions and the security tab, but can't work=20
it
>> out.
>>
>> Can anybody help me please??
>>
>> Cheers
>> Ad-
>
>
>.
>