Re: apply default security settings to a converted NTFS partition

[David Black]

Thank you very much for the prompt reply. I ran the cmd
and received the following information which is not quite
like yours: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F,
BUILTIN\Administrators:F, COMPUTER\David:<0I><CI><I0>F,
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<0I><CI><I0>F,
BUILTIN\Administrators:<0I><CI><I0>F. I am also using
Home Edition, not Professional and guessing from your e
mail that even though I received the aforementioned data
I will still not be able to set the proper NTFS
permissions on my system.
>-----Original Message-----
>If you used convert to change from Fat to Ntfs the
>default security should have been applied for you.
>Was the partition the system boot partition or a
>separate data partition ?
>
>The security tools are not available with Home edition,
>and if copied in do not run there.
>
>If you start run a cmd and enter
>cacls c:
>(assuming we are speaking of the C: drive)
>what do you get back ? If C: is the boot drive and
>it shows something like the following then apparently
>the security setting have been applied
>
>BUILTIN\Administrators:(OI)(CI)F
>NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(OI)(CI)F
>CREATOR OWNER:(OI)(CI)(IO)F
>BUILTIN\Users:(OI)(CI)R
>BUILTIN\Users:(CI)(special access:)
> FILE_APPEND_DATA
>
>BUILTIN\Users:(CI)(IO)(special access:)
> FILE_WRITE_DATA
>
>Everyone:R
>
>--
>Roger
>
>"David Black" > wrote in message
...
>> When I went to perform the steps necessary to set the
>> proper NTFS permissions on my system files I ran into
a
>> problem. The steps in order that I followed are: (1)
>> clicked start, then clicked run. Typed mmc in the
open
>> text box and clicked ok; (2) in the console, I clicked
>> the file menu and then clicked the add/remove snap-in
>> command; (3) in the add/remove snap-in dialog box, I
>> clicked the add button; (4) in the add stand alone
snap-
>> in dialog box, select the security configuration and
>> analysis entry and click add. This is where my
problem
>> occurred. There was no option called security
>> configuration and analysis to add.
>>
>> As a result I was not able to continue with the
process.
>> Can you please tell me what the problem might be and
how
>> to correct it?
>.
>

[Roger Abell [MVP]]

That is quite different, but not nothing being done.
There is supposed to be a way (that is a hint I do not=20
know it, have briefly searched for it . . . ) to apply the=20
setup security or secsetup in Home. In Pro this is=20
done with tools not runnable in Home.

--=20
Roger=20
"David Black" > wrote in message =
...
> Thank you very much for the prompt reply. I ran the cmd=20
> and received the following information which is not quite=20
> like yours: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F,=20
> BUILTIN\Administrators:F, COMPUTER\David:<0I><CI><I0>F,=20
> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<0I><CI><I0>F,=20
> BUILTIN\Administrators:<0I><CI><I0>F. I am also using=20
> Home Edition, not Professional and guessing from your e=20
> mail that even though I received the aforementioned data=20
> I will still not be able to set the proper NTFS=20
> permissions on my system.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >If you used convert to change from Fat to Ntfs the=20
> >default security should have been applied for you.
> >Was the partition the system boot partition or a=20
> >separate data partition ?
> >
> >The security tools are not available with Home edition,=20
> >and if copied in do not run there.
> >
> >If you start run a cmd and enter=20
> >cacls c:
> >(assuming we are speaking of the C: drive)=20
> >what do you get back ? If C: is the boot drive and=20
> >it shows something like the following then apparently=20
> >the security setting have been applied
> >
> >BUILTIN\Administrators:(OI)(CI)F
> >NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(OI)(CI)F
> >CREATOR OWNER:(OI)(CI)(IO)F
> >BUILTIN\Users:(OI)(CI)R
> >BUILTIN\Users:(CI)(special access:)
> > FILE_APPEND_DATA
> >
> >BUILTIN\Users:(CI)(IO)(special access:)
> > FILE_WRITE_DATA
> >
> >Everyone:R
> >
> >--=20
> >Roger=20
> >
> >"David Black" > wrote in message=20
> ...
> >> When I went to perform the steps necessary to set the=20
> >> proper NTFS permissions on my system files I ran into=20
> a=20
> >> problem. The steps in order that I followed are: (1)=20
> >> clicked start, then clicked run. Typed mmc in the=20
> open=20
> >> text box and clicked ok; (2) in the console, I clicked=20
> >> the file menu and then clicked the add/remove snap-in=20
> >> command; (3) in the add/remove snap-in dialog box, I=20
> >> clicked the add button; (4) in the add stand alone=20
> snap-
> >> in dialog box, select the security configuration and=20
> >> analysis entry and click add. This is where my=20
> problem=20
> >> occurred. There was no option called security=20
> >> configuration and analysis to add.
> >>=20
> >> As a result I was not able to continue with the=20
> process. =20
> >> Can you please tell me what the problem might be and=20
> how=20
> >> to correct it?
> >.
> >

[David Black]

Thank you very much for the prompt reply. I ran the cmd
and received the following information which is not quite
like yours: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F,
BUILTIN\Administrators:F, COMPUTER\David:<0I><CI><I0>F,
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<0I><CI><I0>F,
BUILTIN\Administrators:<0I><CI><I0>F. I am also using
Home Edition, not Professional and guessing from your e
mail that even though I received the aforementioned data
I will still not be able to set the proper NTFS
permissions on my system.
>-----Original Message-----
>If you used convert to change from Fat to Ntfs the
>default security should have been applied for you.
>Was the partition the system boot partition or a
>separate data partition ?
>
>The security tools are not available with Home edition,
>and if copied in do not run there.
>
>If you start run a cmd and enter
>cacls c:
>(assuming we are speaking of the C: drive)
>what do you get back ? If C: is the boot drive and
>it shows something like the following then apparently
>the security setting have been applied
>
>BUILTIN\Administrators:(OI)(CI)F
>NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(OI)(CI)F
>CREATOR OWNER:(OI)(CI)(IO)F
>BUILTIN\Users:(OI)(CI)R
>BUILTIN\Users:(CI)(special access:)
> FILE_APPEND_DATA
>
>BUILTIN\Users:(CI)(IO)(special access:)
> FILE_WRITE_DATA
>
>Everyone:R
>
>--
>Roger
>
>"David Black" > wrote in message
...
>> When I went to perform the steps necessary to set the
>> proper NTFS permissions on my system files I ran into
a
>> problem. The steps in order that I followed are: (1)
>> clicked start, then clicked run. Typed mmc in the
open
>> text box and clicked ok; (2) in the console, I clicked
>> the file menu and then clicked the add/remove snap-in
>> command; (3) in the add/remove snap-in dialog box, I
>> clicked the add button; (4) in the add stand alone
snap-
>> in dialog box, select the security configuration and
>> analysis entry and click add. This is where my
problem
>> occurred. There was no option called security
>> configuration and analysis to add.
>>
>> As a result I was not able to continue with the
process.
>> Can you please tell me what the problem might be and
how
>> to correct it?
>.
>

[Roger Abell [MVP]]

That is quite different, but not nothing being done.
There is supposed to be a way (that is a hint I do not=20
know it, have briefly searched for it . . . ) to apply the=20
setup security or secsetup in Home. In Pro this is=20
done with tools not runnable in Home.

--=20
Roger=20
"David Black" > wrote in message =
...
> Thank you very much for the prompt reply. I ran the cmd=20
> and received the following information which is not quite=20
> like yours: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F,=20
> BUILTIN\Administrators:F, COMPUTER\David:<0I><CI><I0>F,=20
> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:<0I><CI><I0>F,=20
> BUILTIN\Administrators:<0I><CI><I0>F. I am also using=20
> Home Edition, not Professional and guessing from your e=20
> mail that even though I received the aforementioned data=20
> I will still not be able to set the proper NTFS=20
> permissions on my system.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >If you used convert to change from Fat to Ntfs the=20
> >default security should have been applied for you.
> >Was the partition the system boot partition or a=20
> >separate data partition ?
> >
> >The security tools are not available with Home edition,=20
> >and if copied in do not run there.
> >
> >If you start run a cmd and enter=20
> >cacls c:
> >(assuming we are speaking of the C: drive)=20
> >what do you get back ? If C: is the boot drive and=20
> >it shows something like the following then apparently=20
> >the security setting have been applied
> >
> >BUILTIN\Administrators:(OI)(CI)F
> >NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(OI)(CI)F
> >CREATOR OWNER:(OI)(CI)(IO)F
> >BUILTIN\Users:(OI)(CI)R
> >BUILTIN\Users:(CI)(special access:)
> > FILE_APPEND_DATA
> >
> >BUILTIN\Users:(CI)(IO)(special access:)
> > FILE_WRITE_DATA
> >
> >Everyone:R
> >
> >--=20
> >Roger=20
> >
> >"David Black" > wrote in message=20
> ...
> >> When I went to perform the steps necessary to set the=20
> >> proper NTFS permissions on my system files I ran into=20
> a=20
> >> problem. The steps in order that I followed are: (1)=20
> >> clicked start, then clicked run. Typed mmc in the=20
> open=20
> >> text box and clicked ok; (2) in the console, I clicked=20
> >> the file menu and then clicked the add/remove snap-in=20
> >> command; (3) in the add/remove snap-in dialog box, I=20
> >> clicked the add button; (4) in the add stand alone=20
> snap-
> >> in dialog box, select the security configuration and=20
> >> analysis entry and click add. This is where my=20
> problem=20
> >> occurred. There was no option called security=20
> >> configuration and analysis to add.
> >>=20
> >> As a result I was not able to continue with the=20
> process. =20
> >> Can you please tell me what the problem might be and=20
> how=20
> >> to correct it?
> >.
> >