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Ellen
July 13th 03, 02:46 PM
Windows XP obviously enables popups. Since I have paid
for the hardware and software and do not want the popups
enabled, can anyone tell me what files to locate, delete
and/or disable to inactivate popups? I am on a search and
destroy mission and will not purchase any operating system
software in the future that does not provide for the
option to disable unwanted "extras" like popups. Thanks!

Nicholas
July 13th 03, 03:49 PM
Purchase and install Norton Internet Security 2003
http://www.symantec.com/sabu/nis/nis_pe/

-- Includes Norton AntiVirus 2003
-- Includes Norton Personal Firewall
-- Includes prevention of annoying web pop-ups
-- Includes Parental Controls
-- All in one, easy-to-install package


--=20
Nicholas

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"Ellen" > wrote in message:
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| Windows XP obviously enables popups. Since I have paid=20
| for the hardware and software and do not want the popups=20
| enabled, can anyone tell me what files to locate, delete=20
| and/or disable to inactivate popups? I am on a search and=20
| destroy mission and will not purchase any operating system=20
| software in the future that does not provide for the=20
| option to disable unwanted "extras" like popups. Thanks!

Shenan T. Stanley
July 13th 03, 07:28 PM
Ellen <> wrote:
> Windows XP obviously enables popups. Since I have paid
> for the hardware and software and do not want the popups
> enabled, can anyone tell me what files to locate, delete
> and/or disable to inactivate popups? I am on a search and
> destroy mission and will not purchase any operating system
> software in the future that does not provide for the
> option to disable unwanted "extras" like popups. Thanks!

Windows XP does not enable popups. You obviously went from a weak
end-user(3.1->ME) system to one made for systems admins(NT->XP).

Advice on Popups and their elimination:

http://www.fracas.net/newsgroups/generaladvice.html#popups
or
http://tinyurl.com/el9s

You may want to look over the whole page.

--
Shenan Stanley
"Just trying to help"
-------------------------
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FredP
July 13th 03, 09:39 PM
Actually, Shenan, that statement is incorrect ...

Assuming Ellen is referring to Messenger 'popups' (separate from Windows/MSN
Messenger), that feature is enabled by default. It's a function of 'net
send' (do a search in Help & Support for 'net send' and you'll see what I
mean). It allows the Administrator to send messages to other users on the
network (ie. "The network printer will be down for maintainence between 3-5
pm").

Unfortunately, spammers have found this feature and are using it to send
unwelcome messages.

Messenger Service can be disabled in Services (services.msc), but the best
way is to get a firewall and only allow trusted zones. ZoneAlarm (for one)
works well, is not expensive and probably well worth the money ... IMHO.
www.zonealarm.com

If she is referring to the popup ads at internet sites, Zone Alarm has an
ad-blocker as well.
--
HTH ... Fred

Shenan T. Stanley wrote:
>
> Windows XP does not enable popups. You obviously went from a weak
> end-user(3.1->ME) system to one made for systems admins(NT->XP).
>
> Advice on Popups and their elimination:
>
> http://www.fracas.net/newsgroups/generaladvice.html#popups
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/el9s
>
> You may want to look over the whole page.

Amethyst
July 14th 03, 12:30 AM
Shenan T. Stanley wrote:
> Ellen <> wrote:
>> Windows XP obviously enables popups. Since I have paid
>> for the hardware and software and do not want the popups
>> enabled, can anyone tell me what files to locate, delete
>> and/or disable to inactivate popups? I am on a search and
>> destroy mission and will not purchase any operating system
>> software in the future that does not provide for the
>> option to disable unwanted "extras" like popups. Thanks!
>
> Windows XP does not enable popups. You obviously went from a weak
> end-user(3.1->ME) system to one made for systems admins(NT->XP).
>
> Advice on Popups and their elimination:
>
> http://www.fracas.net/newsgroups/generaladvice.html#popups
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/el9s
>
> You may want to look over the whole page.


Did you visit the sites that Shenan posted? Had you done so you would have
seen that they deal with BOTH types of pop-ups.
--
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Too!'

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Shenan T. Stanley
July 14th 03, 04:24 AM
Shenan T. Stanley wrote:
> Windows XP does not enable popups. You obviously went from a weak
> end-user(3.1->ME) system to one made for systems admins(NT->XP).
>
> Advice on Popups and their elimination:
>
> http://www.fracas.net/newsgroups/generaladvice.html#popups
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/el9s
>
> You may want to look over the whole page.

FredP <> wrote:
> Actually, Shenan, that statement is incorrect ...
>
> Assuming Ellen is referring to Messenger 'popups' (separate from
> Windows/MSN Messenger), that feature is enabled by default. It's a
> function of 'net send' (do a search in Help & Support for 'net send'
> and you'll see what I mean). It allows the Administrator to send
> messages to other users on the network (ie. "The network printer
> will be down for maintainence between 3-5 pm").
>
> If she is referring to the popup ads at internet sites, Zone Alarm
> has an ad-blocker as well.

If you go to the sites I posted, you will see I (yes - the page is a quick
one I assembled for these types of posts) differentiate between the two
types. Also, Windows NT->XP did not "enable" the feature, the feature did
not exist in the "security weak" systems I mentioned(3.1->ME.)

I am betting the reason the original poster is blaming XP is because they
used to use Windows 98/95 and never had to worry with this type of spam, as
the Messenger service did not "exist" in these OSes. Only in the more "made
for business and system admins" systems like NT->W2K->WXP did the ability to
send messages in this way evolve. Perhaps I am misinformed, but even
barring my experience in the matter, I cannot find anything about there
being a messenger service in the 9x series..

--
Shenan Stanley
"Just trying to help"
-------------------------
How to use XPs Help and Support
http://tinyurl.com/fltf

How to Use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups
http://tinyurl.com/fkja

How to use Google
http://www.google.com/help/basics.html
http://tinyurl.com/fkmc
-------------------------

FredP
July 14th 03, 07:00 AM
OK, I guess it's all in how you define 'enable' ... you appear to be saying
that XP cannot 'enable' a non-existent Messenger Service in previous
versions of Windows, which is correct ... they were never there.

I was trying to say (perhaps not clearly) that XP 'enables' Messenger
Service by default on a clean install ... and it's there for a purpose since
XP is designed for network usage.

Neverthess, the OP had a problem with 'popups' (and I'm not sure if she
meant spam Messenger Service popups or internet site popup ads) but,
assuming the former, she can turn it off in Services (local) or block them
by obtaining a firewall.
--
HTH ... Fred

Shenan T. Stanley wrote:
> If you go to the sites I posted, you will see I (yes - the page is a
> quick one I assembled for these types of posts) differentiate between
> the two types. Also, Windows NT->XP did not "enable" the feature, the
> feature did not exist in the "security weak" systems I
> mentioned(3.1->ME.)
>
> I am betting the reason the original poster is blaming XP is because
> they used to use Windows 98/95 and never had to worry with this type
> of spam, as the Messenger service did not "exist" in these OSes.
> Only in the more "made for business and system admins" systems like
> NT->W2K->WXP did the ability to send messages in this way evolve.
> Perhaps I am misinformed, but even barring my experience in the
> matter, I cannot find anything about there being a messenger service
> in the 9x series..

>> FredP <> wrote:
>> Actually, Shenan, that statement is incorrect ...
>>
>> Assuming Ellen is referring to Messenger 'popups' (separate from
>> Windows/MSN Messenger), that feature is enabled by default. It's a
>> function of 'net send' (do a search in Help & Support for 'net send'
>> and you'll see what I mean). It allows the Administrator to send
>> messages to other users on the network (ie. "The network printer
>> will be down for maintainence between 3-5 pm").
>>
>> If she is referring to the popup ads at internet sites, Zone Alarm
>> has an ad-blocker as well.

Paul
July 14th 03, 05:26 PM
*Editied for content ;)*
Dear Card Carrying Bitch,
I don't understand why you post. Too often you are rude
and not helpful at all

Here's what I mean:
-Lines marked with an * are part of the original post.
-My comments are in brackets

*felix figueroa wrote:
*> I was just wondering what the blue hilighted text meant
*> when im looking in my folders...recently modified?
*
*
*It means that, in the time it took you to compose this
post you could have
*searched the group and found your answer.

(WTF is your problem, if he wants to post, then that's
his choice. I WOULD agree with you, if I had seen this
question repeadily posted)


*William wrote:
*> You probably registered your copy but did not activate,
*> it is two different things, maybe you should just give
it
*> a try and activate or activate again, otherwise contact
*> microsoft.
*
*Err, no. If she had merely registered, but not
activated, then she would not
*receive an "already activated" message. She is not
seeing the activation
*box, so how can she activate. Do you actually read
questions before
*responding, or do you just post the first thing that
pops into your head?

(Talk about being b***hy)


*Rat Garton wrote:
*> when I go on line no matter ware after I have finished
and wish to
*> close down I can not I have use windows task manager
and that
*> struggles to close it down any I deas to solve this
prob I am a
*> complete novice so if you can help please try to keep
it simple ty
*
*
*Please come back after you have attended those remedial
English classes
*especially the ones dealing with sentence construction
and punctuation. I am
*not even going to bother to decipher that until you
insert some proper
*punctuation.

(You may have a point, but if you're not going to answer
his question, then don't post. Let the people who will
spend the 5 seconds to try to understand what he's saying
help him)


*Linda wrote:
*> have upgraded msn messenger and cant get it to work,
nor
*> my old version. Also my system restore will not work
in
*> XP. Any advice?
*
*Please read http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm and learn
how to submit a good
*post. When you have read it, follow the advice and post
back.

(Once again, if you're not going to answer her question,
then don't post. Let the people who will spend the 5
seconds to try to understand what she's saying help her)


*Bruce Chambers wrote:
*> Greetings --
*>
*> Sure. Rename or delete the C:\Boot.ini file, and
the PC will have
*> problems booting. This is what you want to happen, or
else you
*> wouldn't have asked, right?
*>
*> Bruce Chambers
*>
*> Help us help you:
*> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
*> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
*> ----
*> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't
ever count on
*> having both at once. -- RAH
*
*I guess I should stop being surprised at how stupid some
people can be, eh?
*;o)

(Oh you can both go f**k yourselfs. The man was confused
about what this file was. Last time i checked, these
groups were for people with questions about a Microsoft
product or service)


*Rajesh K m wrote:
*> Hi,
*> Kindly feed me with answers for the following
questions.
*>
*> How many monitors can you connect to Windows XP Home
*> Edition at a time?
*>
*> What function of Windows XP Home Edition helps serve
*> broadband connection to be shared over the internet?
*>
*> What feature of Windows XP Home Edition help share
*> Internet connection over two or more PC?
*>
*> What is an analog USB audio/video capture device
called in
*> Windows XP Home Edition?
*>
*> Which feature in Windows XP Home Edition greatly
improves
*> the reliability of the system?
*>
*> Please reply me as soon as possible at
*>
*> Thanks
*
*
*These groups are for people with real problems, not lazy
pubescents wanting
*someone to do their IT homework for them. Do the
research yourself you lazy
*cretin!

(As you like to say, 'err no', these groups are for
people with any questions about a Microsoft product or
service, regardless of severity. Maybe if YOU weren't so
lazy, you would help him.)



THE FOLLOWING ONE WAS BY FAR THE RUDEST:

*Jonathan Kay [MVP] wrote:
*> Greetings Alan,
*>
*> Instead of choosing just Stop, in that window,
select "Messenger",
*> right-click and then choose Properties. Under startup
type, choose
*> 'Disabled' and then choose the 'Stop' button. After
the service is
*stopped,
*> click OK.
*>
*> After this, you won't need to stop it at every reboot.
*> ____________________________________________
*> Jonathan Kay
*> Windows MVP, Messenger
*> Associate Expert
*> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
*> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
*>
*> "alan aggett" > wrote in message
*> ...
*>> To stop the new brand of pop ups,such as those from
end
*>> ads.com. Go to control panel, open admin tools , then
*>> click on services- scroll down thru the list to
*>> messenger ,right click and select-STOP.This disables
the
*>> service,-not sure if u have to do this everytime u
boot
*>> up. Don t seem to be any adverse side effects but if u
*>> have trouble with any other services try re enabling
*>> messenger.Good luck!!
*
*Still peddling the same old tripe I see. You can't teach
kids anything these
*days.

(Hey b***h, at least he helps many people, and POLITELY)


AND BELIEVE ME, THERE WERE MANY MORE!

So join hands and call out, "Get the d**do out of your
a** Cass"

And i will continue to post these messages untill you publicly apologize to
the people you have offended.


"Amethyst" > wrote in message
...
> Shenan T. Stanley wrote:
> > Ellen <> wrote:
> >> Windows XP obviously enables popups. Since I have paid
> >> for the hardware and software and do not want the popups
> >> enabled, can anyone tell me what files to locate, delete
> >> and/or disable to inactivate popups? I am on a search and
> >> destroy mission and will not purchase any operating system
> >> software in the future that does not provide for the
> >> option to disable unwanted "extras" like popups. Thanks!
> >
> > Windows XP does not enable popups. You obviously went from a weak
> > end-user(3.1->ME) system to one made for systems admins(NT->XP).
> >
> > Advice on Popups and their elimination:
> >
> > http://www.fracas.net/newsgroups/generaladvice.html#popups
> > or
> > http://tinyurl.com/el9s
> >
> > You may want to look over the whole page.
>
>
> Did you visit the sites that Shenan posted? Had you done so you would have
> seen that they deal with BOTH types of pop-ups.
> --
> Cassandra
> Card carrying member of the Fresh Start Club 'The Undead Are People
> Too!'
>
> Reply address is fake. Please send all praise, abuse, insults, bequests
> of £1million to cassandra (at) craigy34 (dot) freeserve (dot) co (dot)
> uk. Change the obvious to the obvious.
> Private requests for assistance will not be acknowledged. Please post
> all correspondence to the group so that all may benefit. Thank you.
>
>

PaulC
July 21st 03, 07:33 PM
God! Stop this advertising crap. He can just enable the Windows XP
firewall. All he asked for is how to stop the ads, and that is the
simplest, easiest way to do it.
"Nicholas" > wrote in message
...
Purchase and install Norton Internet Security 2003
http://www.symantec.com/sabu/nis/nis_pe/

-- Includes Norton AntiVirus 2003
-- Includes Norton Personal Firewall
-- Includes prevention of annoying web pop-ups
-- Includes Parental Controls
-- All in one, easy-to-install package


--
Nicholas

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"Ellen" > wrote in message:
...

| Windows XP obviously enables popups. Since I have paid
| for the hardware and software and do not want the popups
| enabled, can anyone tell me what files to locate, delete
| and/or disable to inactivate popups? I am on a search and
| destroy mission and will not purchase any operating system
| software in the future that does not provide for the
| option to disable unwanted "extras" like popups. Thanks!

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