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doug hale
December 5th 03, 09:06 PM
i just purchased and copy of xp pro upgrade.
i have two computers at home i want to install this up
grade on both. how can i do this if i activate xp on the
first computer?

Chris Lanier
December 5th 03, 09:06 PM
you can't. you get one licence in every copy of Windows. You must buy
another copy of Windows to install on your second computer.

"doug hale" > wrote in message
...
> i just purchased and copy of xp pro upgrade.
> i have two computers at home i want to install this up
> grade on both. how can i do this if i activate xp on the
> first computer?

Perdita X. Dream
December 5th 03, 09:06 PM
doug hale wrote:
> i just purchased and copy of xp pro upgrade.
> i have two computers at home i want to install this up
> grade on both. how can i do this if i activate xp on the
> first computer?

If you'd have bothered to search the group you'd have found your answer. No
version of Windows has been licensed for more than one computer - just
because it was possible to do so up to now, didn't mean it wasn't a
violation of the EULA. You need a separate licence for EACH system. This
means if you want to upgrade two systems you need TWO licences.

Let me give you a little analogy. Here in the UK you are required to have a
licence for your television. The law states that you are required to have a
licence for EVERY television on a site - it isn't a site licence. If you do
not have a valid licence for each TV, you can be fined £1000 PER UNLICENSED
UNIT.

It's the same with Windows licences (and, if you're caught using a licence
illegally, the penalties are much, much, much harsher).


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Bruce Chambers
December 5th 03, 09:06 PM
Greetings --

Well, you can't, of course. Do so would be theft.

As it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating systems,
it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and copyright
laws, if not technically) to purchase one WinXP license for each
computer on which it is installed. The only way in which WinXP
licensing differs from that of earlier versions of Windows is that
Microsoft has finally added a copy protection and anti-theft
mechanism, Product Activation, to prevent (or at least make more
difficult) the sort of multiple installations you're asking about.



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"doug hale" > wrote in message
...
> i just purchased and copy of xp pro upgrade.
> i have two computers at home i want to install this up
> grade on both. how can i do this if i activate xp on the
> first computer?

Sophie
December 5th 03, 09:07 PM
>
> Let me give you a little analogy. Here in the UK you are required to have
a
> licence for your television. The law states that you are required to have
a
> licence for EVERY television on a site - it isn't a site licence. If you
do
> not have a valid licence for each TV, you can be fined £1000 PER
UNLICENSED
> UNIT.

WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH

Are you saying because I have 3 TVS in my house I need 3 TV licences? Get
real

Perdita X. Dream
December 5th 03, 09:07 PM
Sophie wrote:
>> Let me give you a little analogy. Here in the UK you are required to
>> have a licence for your television. The law states that you are
>> required to have a licence for EVERY television on a site - it isn't
>> a site licence. If you do not have a valid licence for each TV, you
>> can be fined £1000 PER UNLICENSED UNIT.
>
> WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH
>
> Are you saying because I have 3 TVS in my house I need 3 TV licences?
> Get real

Yes that's exactly what I am saying - you need a licence PER UNIT. Someone's
going to be receiving a visit from the detector van very soon...

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Bruce Chambers
December 5th 03, 09:07 PM
Greetings --

That's the law in Britain, yes.

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"Sophie" > wrote in message
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>
> WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH
>
> Are you saying because I have 3 TVS in my house I need 3 TV
licences? Get
> real
>
>

PCyr
December 5th 03, 09:07 PM
Why?
Because I understand that you can do things on your computer that affects
others. But a TV a can't. So why the law?

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"Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
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> Greetings --
>
> That's the law in Britain, yes.
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
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>
>
> "Sophie" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH
> >
> > Are you saying because I have 3 TVS in my house I need 3 TV
> licences? Get
> > real
> >
> >
>
>

Mark Weinreb
December 5th 03, 09:08 PM
It must be different in your part of Britain, because here in London one
£116 Colour TV license covers all TVs and VCRs in a single house. It'll even
cover extra sets in a caravan.


"Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings --
>
> That's the law in Britain, yes.
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> --
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> having both at once. -- RAH
>
>
> "Sophie" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH
> >
> > Are you saying because I have 3 TVS in my house I need 3 TV
> licences? Get
> > real
> >
> >
>
>

NeverMind
December 5th 03, 09:16 PM
"Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings --
>
> Well, you can't, of course. Do so would be theft.
>
> As it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating systems,
> it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and copyright
> laws, if not technically) to purchase one WinXP license for each
> computer on which it is installed. The only way in which WinXP
> licensing differs from that of earlier versions of Windows is that
> Microsoft has finally added a copy protection and anti-theft
> mechanism, Product Activation, to prevent (or at least make more
> difficult) the sort of multiple installations you're asking about.
>
>
>
> Bruce Chambers

How is it that there is a windows XP Pro that needs no activation key?

Andy

Bruce Chambers
December 5th 03, 09:16 PM
Greetings --

That would most likely be the Volume Licensed version, available
to businesses in quantities of 5 or more. In exchange for not having
to activate, participants in the Select and Open Licensing programs
have to agree, among other conditions, to have their computers and
software installations audited by Microsoft, as Microsoft's
convenience.

Additionally, OEM installations of WinXP Pro are generally
pre-activated at the factory and are locked to the specific BIOS,
preventing their installation elsewhere.

Bruce Chambers

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"NeverMind" > wrote in message
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>
>
> How is it that there is a windows XP Pro that needs no activation
key?
>
> Andy
>
>

Patrick
December 5th 03, 09:18 PM
Perdita X. Dream wrote:
> Sophie wrote:
>>> Let me give you a little analogy. Here in the UK you are required to
>>> have a licence for your television. The law states that you are
>>> required to have a licence for EVERY television on a site - it isn't
>>> a site licence. If you do not have a valid licence for each TV, you
>>> can be fined £1000 PER UNLICENSED UNIT.
>>
>> WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH
>>
>> Are you saying because I have 3 TVS in my house I need 3 TV licences?
>> Get real
>
> Yes that's exactly what I am saying - you need a licence PER UNIT.
> Someone's going to be receiving a visit from the detector van very
> soon...

Are you telling us that, if I have a Video-Recorder and a Television, that I
have to buy two licences?

Michael Stevens
December 5th 03, 09:18 PM
doug hale wrote:
> i just purchased and copy of xp pro upgrade.
> i have two computers at home i want to install this up
> grade on both. how can i do this if i activate xp on the
> first computer?

You can't according to the EULA agreement. If you agree to the EULA by
clicking the agree button when you install XP, you agreed that your CD
license key is valid for one installation of XP. This has been the same for
most of the Windows and NT versions and certainly since all versions of Win
9X/Me/2000. The XP activation procedure makes the user aware of what they
agreed to when the installed Windows XP. It is also stated on the Retail box
that the license is for use on one[1] PC. Activation was implemented to make
the user aware of the licensing agreement they agreed to install XP, it was
not engineered to make it impossible to defeat activation.
You can access the EULA by typing WINVER from Start>Run.
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Sophie
December 5th 03, 09:23 PM
"Perdita X. Dream" > wrote in message
...
> Sophie wrote:
> >> Let me give you a little analogy. Here in the UK you are required to
> >> have a licence for your television. The law states that you are
> >> required to have a licence for EVERY television on a site - it isn't
> >> a site licence. If you do not have a valid licence for each TV, you
> >> can be fined £1000 PER UNLICENSED UNIT.
> >
> > WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH
> >
> > Are you saying because I have 3 TVS in my house I need 3 TV licences?
> > Get real
>
> Yes that's exactly what I am saying - you need a licence PER UNIT.
Someone's
> going to be receiving a visit from the detector van very soon...
>
As I said WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH. Do you even live in Britain? I have 2
video recorders, a satellite system and 3 TVs and ONE licence and that is
all I need. So according to you I should have 6 licences at 116 pounds a go.
Right GET REAL.

Sophie

Alex Nichol
December 5th 03, 09:27 PM
Perdita X. Dream wrote:

>> WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH
>>
>> Are you saying because I have 3 TVS in my house I need 3 TV licences?
>> Get real
>
>Yes that's exactly what I am saying - you need a licence PER UNIT. =
Someone's
>going to be receiving a visit from the detector van very soon...

You are wrong in relation to the UK. The TV license refers to
'premises' and you can have multiple sets on the premises. OTOH if you
let off parts of it, say as student accommodation, those constitute
separate premises needing separate licenses.

None of which really relates to the way Microsoft choose to license
Windows. They could make that a license to premises - they do not do so


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Alex Nichol
December 5th 03, 09:27 PM
doug hale wrote:

>i just purchased and copy of xp pro upgrade.
>i have two computers at home i want to install this up=20
>grade on both. how can i do this if i activate xp on the=20
>first computer?


The Windows XP system - as always with Windows - is sold under license,
to install on a single computer. So you need a second copy. This is
why the activation system was brought in - to stop people doing what you
intend (or at least to draw their attention forcibly to the position)

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