Installing 98 after installing XP

[Usman]

I have two hard disks with 6 and 5 partitions respectively. XP is installed
on C which is NTFS. The system has been very hard earned, (I mean
up-to-date). I know its not advisable to install 98 after installing XP but
I wanted to know if there was a way of doing it without any problem.

[Doug Knox MS-MVP]

The only way to do it, if your C: drive is NTFS is with a boot manager, like
BootIt Next Generation, www.bootitng.com, or a similar product.

If your C: drive were FAT32, you could use the procecure documented on my
web site:

See my web site, www.dougknox.com and go to Win XP Tips

For Win9x/Me: Install 98/Me after XP is Installed.
For Windows 2000: Install Windows 2000 after XP is installed.

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"Usman" > wrote in message
...
> I have two hard disks with 6 and 5 partitions respectively. XP is
installed
> on C which is NTFS. The system has been very hard earned, (I mean
> up-to-date). I know its not advisable to install 98 after installing XP
but
> I wanted to know if there was a way of doing it without any problem.
>
>

[Usman]

Dear Doug Knox,

Is it safe (w/o data loss) to convert from NTFS to FAT 32 using partition
magic 8? How about doing it and then installing 98 following your
instructions. Afterwards I will convert my C to NTFS again. What do you say?

[Doug Knox MS-MVP]

I've never used Partition Magic, so can't answer that question for you. I
know it supports it, but have just never used it. I prefer BootIt Next
Generation.

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"Usman" > wrote in message
...
> Dear Doug Knox,
>
> Is it safe (w/o data loss) to convert from NTFS to FAT 32 using partition
> magic 8? How about doing it and then installing 98 following your
> instructions. Afterwards I will convert my C to NTFS again. What do you
say?
>
>

[Usman]

What about the second part of my question? Will it work or not?

[Doug Knox MS-MVP]

As long as the C: partition is FAT or FAT32, you can install 98 after the
fact. Just don't install it to the same partition as XP is installed on.

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Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
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"Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
...
> I've never used Partition Magic, so can't answer that question for you. I
> know it supports it, but have just never used it. I prefer BootIt Next
> Generation.
>
> --
> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> http://www.dougknox.com
> --------------------------------
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>
> "Usman" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Dear Doug Knox,
> >
> > Is it safe (w/o data loss) to convert from NTFS to FAT 32 using
partition
> > magic 8? How about doing it and then installing 98 following your
> > instructions. Afterwards I will convert my C to NTFS again. What do you
> say?
> >
> >
>
>

[Usman]

which means I cant convert my c to NTFS after installing 98, What would
happen if I do that? and is there any way to correct it afterwards? Thanking
in anticipation.

[Usman]

Greetings Doug Knox,
Something else that comes to my mind is that if I install 98 to the first
FAT32 partition of my second drive. Will it work? How will the boot.ini be
modified accordingly? Please advise..

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
...
> As long as the C: partition is FAT or FAT32, you can install 98 after the
> fact. Just don't install it to the same partition as XP is installed on.
>
> --
> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> http://www.dougknox.com
> --------------------------------
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>
> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I've never used Partition Magic, so can't answer that question for you.
I
> > know it supports it, but have just never used it. I prefer BootIt Next
> > Generation.
> >
> > --
> > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> > http://www.dougknox.com
> > --------------------------------
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> > ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > --------------------------------
> > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
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> >
> > "Usman" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Dear Doug Knox,
> > >
> > > Is it safe (w/o data loss) to convert from NTFS to FAT 32 using
> partition
> > > magic 8? How about doing it and then installing 98 following your
> > > instructions. Afterwards I will convert my C to NTFS again. What do
you
> > say?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Doug Knox MS-MVP]

The 98 boot code must reside on a FAT32 partition, and it must be on your
boot partition. Converting to NTFS after 98 is installed, will render 98
unbootable, since its boot files don't know anything about NTFS.

Yes, you can install 98 on any FAT32 partition, but the boot partition must
be FAT32 as well.

If you want to keep your C: drive as NTFS, check out Boot It Next
Generation, or PQBoot (part of Partition Magic).

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
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"Usman" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings Doug Knox,
> Something else that comes to my mind is that if I install 98 to the first
> FAT32 partition of my second drive. Will it work? How will the boot.ini be
> modified accordingly? Please advise..
>
> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
> ...
> > As long as the C: partition is FAT or FAT32, you can install 98 after
the
> > fact. Just don't install it to the same partition as XP is installed
on.
> >
> > --
> > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> > http://www.dougknox.com
> > --------------------------------
> > Associate Expert
> > ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > --------------------------------
> > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> > Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> >
> > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I've never used Partition Magic, so can't answer that question for
you.
> I
> > > know it supports it, but have just never used it. I prefer BootIt
Next
> > > Generation.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows XP/ Windows Smart Display
> > > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> > > http://www.dougknox.com
> > > --------------------------------
> > > Associate Expert
> > > ExpertZone - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > --------------------------------
> > > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> > > Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> > >
> > > "Usman" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Dear Doug Knox,
> > > >
> > > > Is it safe (w/o data loss) to convert from NTFS to FAT 32 using
> > partition
> > > > magic 8? How about doing it and then installing 98 following your
> > > > instructions. Afterwards I will convert my C to NTFS again. What do
> you
> > > say?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Michael Stevens]

Usman wrote:
> Dear Doug Knox,
>
> Is it safe (w/o data loss) to convert from NTFS to FAT 32 using
> partition magic 8? How about doing it and then installing 98
> following your instructions. Afterwards I will convert my C to NTFS
> again. What do you say?

If you have PM8, use the BootMagic bootmanager and leave the XP drive NTFS.
There is nothing magic about using the XP bootmanager, and you will not risk
the chance of data loss in the conversion. Plus, you couldn't convert C back
to NTFS anyway.
PM8 has a very comprehensive user manual that will guide you through the
process.
--

Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP

http://michaelstevenstech.com
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[Usman]

Well Michael, Thank you for offering to help. I tried using it but received
an error (about disk manager's auto detect feature in sector 2 of hard disk)
after I installed boot magic and when I searched for the error details, it
said, disk manager needed to be uninstalled (and eventually loose data) and
I astonishingly do not have disk manager on my disk. I do, however, have
diskwizard 2003 and that probably is also an ontrack thing, but after I
searched for relevant information on ontrack, they said it wasn't their
fault and the hard disk will remove that auto feature on reformat. So after
this exercise, I gave up on using partition magic, and am now rather looking
for something else that could do the job for me as well as retain everything
on my pc as before.