Senghor Etienne
June 6th 03, 03:37 PM
I have a network that consists of windows 2000 servers and
WIN XP / WIN 2000 Workstations . We have a domain
controller named WVHTIO configured with the IP 192.168.0.5
and this is also the logon domain ...every users have
internet access so they have to use the 198.77.116.8 which
the DNS used for name resolution for the internet but not
for the inside network ..The DNS for the inside network is
the same as the domain controller ...so , we use an H-Node
Type of WINS server for name resolution and a DHCP server
sends configurations automatically to the workstations ..
The DHCP sends a configuration like for example :
Windows 2000 IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : esenghor
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : wvhtio
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : wvhtio
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Cable
Disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 21143
Based PCI Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-10-7A-15-85-
7C
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R)
PRO/100 VE Network Connecti
on
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-39-47-73-
82
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.xxx
(the xxx is a variable number)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.5
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 198.77.116.8
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.5
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, June
03, 2003 10:34:59 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday,
June 11, 2003 10:34:59 AM
so all the workstations get this configurations by mean of
DHCP ..
In this configuration, as you can notice , the user uses
WINS as their primary name resolution technic to logon to
the server and for browsing the network resources and they
use the 198.77.116.8 as the second resolution technic for
the internet ...
Normally all the computers are members of the domain
WVHTIO , so when a user logs to the domain , his machine
shouldn't ask for a password when another user in the same
domain tries to access his folders or resources because
the security in centralized at the domain controller ...!!
all users have login scripts and drives have to be mapped
from another file server wich is also part of the domain ..
but now the problem is that when a user with windows XP
machine wants to logon with the same settings , i receive
a message like "user cannot log on because the WVHTIO
domain is not available" . if i manually configure the pc
with the DNS 192.168.0.5 , it works ..!!
and the workstations cannot use both the DNS address: the
192.168.0.5 and the 198.77.116.8 as alternate . In the
this form, they will logon fine but they won't go to the
internet !!
but this settings work fine for windows 2000 machines as
soon as they join the domain , they can access machines
normally on the domain and drives can be mapped quickly
via their logon scripts ..
i then realized that the problem is really a name
resolution thing !
So, in brief the problem is:
1) users use 192.168.0.5 for internal name resoltuion with
H-NODE WINS and they 198.77.116.8 for name resolution to
the intenet !
2) Both windows 2000 and windows XP cannot use both the
DNS at the same time in the form (primary,
alternate ) ..Thay will be able to logon but they won;t go
to the internet
3) We want the users to be able to logon and go to the
internet at the same time .so we try to bypass that
problem by allowing the user to logon via WINS and use the
198.77.116.8 as DNS for name resolution to the internet ..
4) This setting works fine for windows 2000 and failed to
work for WIndows XP machines ..
5) Most of the workstation computers of our network is
equipped with windows XP. Only a few have windows 2000 pro
6) Questions:
a) how can we get Windows XP to use WINS for name
resolution so that users can logon to a domain and access
ressources on the network normallly ?
b) How can i use two DNS addresses in the DNS server
section of TCP / IP configuration of windows XP and
Windows 2000 so that the system bypasses one and chooses
the other alternate DNS server , if doesn't find the name
it looks for in the first one ? (this will be the best
technic to solve this problem ..!!
If you have any suggestions, please
Please help me find a solution !!
WIN XP / WIN 2000 Workstations . We have a domain
controller named WVHTIO configured with the IP 192.168.0.5
and this is also the logon domain ...every users have
internet access so they have to use the 198.77.116.8 which
the DNS used for name resolution for the internet but not
for the inside network ..The DNS for the inside network is
the same as the domain controller ...so , we use an H-Node
Type of WINS server for name resolution and a DHCP server
sends configurations automatically to the workstations ..
The DHCP sends a configuration like for example :
Windows 2000 IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : esenghor
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : wvhtio
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : wvhtio
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Cable
Disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 21143
Based PCI Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-10-7A-15-85-
7C
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R)
PRO/100 VE Network Connecti
on
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-39-47-73-
82
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.xxx
(the xxx is a variable number)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.5
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 198.77.116.8
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.5
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, June
03, 2003 10:34:59 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday,
June 11, 2003 10:34:59 AM
so all the workstations get this configurations by mean of
DHCP ..
In this configuration, as you can notice , the user uses
WINS as their primary name resolution technic to logon to
the server and for browsing the network resources and they
use the 198.77.116.8 as the second resolution technic for
the internet ...
Normally all the computers are members of the domain
WVHTIO , so when a user logs to the domain , his machine
shouldn't ask for a password when another user in the same
domain tries to access his folders or resources because
the security in centralized at the domain controller ...!!
all users have login scripts and drives have to be mapped
from another file server wich is also part of the domain ..
but now the problem is that when a user with windows XP
machine wants to logon with the same settings , i receive
a message like "user cannot log on because the WVHTIO
domain is not available" . if i manually configure the pc
with the DNS 192.168.0.5 , it works ..!!
and the workstations cannot use both the DNS address: the
192.168.0.5 and the 198.77.116.8 as alternate . In the
this form, they will logon fine but they won't go to the
internet !!
but this settings work fine for windows 2000 machines as
soon as they join the domain , they can access machines
normally on the domain and drives can be mapped quickly
via their logon scripts ..
i then realized that the problem is really a name
resolution thing !
So, in brief the problem is:
1) users use 192.168.0.5 for internal name resoltuion with
H-NODE WINS and they 198.77.116.8 for name resolution to
the intenet !
2) Both windows 2000 and windows XP cannot use both the
DNS at the same time in the form (primary,
alternate ) ..Thay will be able to logon but they won;t go
to the internet
3) We want the users to be able to logon and go to the
internet at the same time .so we try to bypass that
problem by allowing the user to logon via WINS and use the
198.77.116.8 as DNS for name resolution to the internet ..
4) This setting works fine for windows 2000 and failed to
work for WIndows XP machines ..
5) Most of the workstation computers of our network is
equipped with windows XP. Only a few have windows 2000 pro
6) Questions:
a) how can we get Windows XP to use WINS for name
resolution so that users can logon to a domain and access
ressources on the network normallly ?
b) How can i use two DNS addresses in the DNS server
section of TCP / IP configuration of windows XP and
Windows 2000 so that the system bypasses one and chooses
the other alternate DNS server , if doesn't find the name
it looks for in the first one ? (this will be the best
technic to solve this problem ..!!
If you have any suggestions, please
Please help me find a solution !!