Is it possible to use a DVR for Video Capture?

[David Lewis]

Greetings All,

Can you use a DVD made from a DVR (Pioneer DVR 7000), with DV Camcorder or
TV source material burned/"captured"/recorded on the DVD , to input to your
PC for editing (using Adobe Premiere).?

I have no idea what I'm talking about here so bear with me if you will.I
already have a DV Camcorder, the DVR, Premier software(a present which has
never been used),firewire port .....BUT no capture card/TV tuner in my PC. I
basically want to transfer video already stored on DVD (from the DVR) into
the PC for editing and then burn back to DVD using burning software/computer
DVD burner. I am thinking that this would totally replace the need for a
VIDEO CAPTURE CARD in my PC.I am thinking I would need DVD "ripping"
software to get material into PC and then use Premier to edit.

Am I missing some important step here or is this plan fundamentally flawed
for some reason eg do you need to capture the RAW video feed or something
into the PC first or process it in some way etc, before passing it on to
Premier?

Grateful for any advice or comments,with Thanks.
--
Kind Regards,
David

[Lorne Smith]

If you own a DVD recorder, then all you need to do it copy the VOB files
from the DVD on to your computer. You'll then need to convert them into a
form which can be used by Premiere which will lose you a bit of quality, but
as long as you use a high enough biterate, this won't be noticeable.

Go to www.dvdrhelp.com for full tutorials on how to do all this. You'll
want the Ripping guides, though your own DVDR's won't be copy protected...

HTH

Lorne

"David Lewis" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings All,
>
> Can you use a DVD made from a DVR (Pioneer DVR 7000), with DV Camcorder
or
> TV source material burned/"captured"/recorded on the DVD , to input to
your
> PC for editing (using Adobe Premiere).?
>
> I have no idea what I'm talking about here so bear with me if you will.I
> already have a DV Camcorder, the DVR, Premier software(a present which has
> never been used),firewire port .....BUT no capture card/TV tuner in my PC.
I
> basically want to transfer video already stored on DVD (from the DVR) into
> the PC for editing and then burn back to DVD using burning
software/computer
> DVD burner. I am thinking that this would totally replace the need for a
> VIDEO CAPTURE CARD in my PC.I am thinking I would need DVD "ripping"
> software to get material into PC and then use Premier to edit.
>
> Am I missing some important step here or is this plan fundamentally flawed
> for some reason eg do you need to capture the RAW video feed or something
> into the PC first or process it in some way etc, before passing it on to
> Premier?
>
> Grateful for any advice or comments,with Thanks.
> --
> Kind Regards,
> David
>
>
>

[David Lewis]

Lorne Smith wrote:
> If you own a DVD recorder, then all you need to do it copy the VOB
> files from the DVD on to your computer. You'll then need to convert
> them into a form which can be used by Premiere which will lose you a
> bit of quality, but as long as you use a high enough biterate, this
> won't be noticeable.

OK,Thanks,this sounds like the go.I don't know what VOB files are but will
explore at web site you mention below.


> Go to www.dvdrhelp.com for full tutorials on how to do all this.
> You'll want the Ripping guides, though your own DVDR's won't be copy
> protected...

Correct,my DVD's are not copy protected.They consist so far of DVD's made
from DV camcorder (directly fed into DVD Recorder via firewire) and material
recorded from Free to Air TV. I realise that DV for example is a different
format/codec but presume that by the time it's recorded to DVD it ends up
like everything else i.e encoded to MPEG2??Supposedly then Premier would
need to take the "VOB" files and decode them,then you edit,re-encode to
MPEG2 and burn back to a new DVD?Is this the sort of stuff I should be
looking for at dvdrhelp.com or am I way off track.

BTW if this can all be done then I would have no need for a "capture card"
in the PC,correct?...or are there some other benefits to the "capture card"
method?

Thanks for help
--
Kind Regards,
David

[Lorne Smith]

"David Lewis" > wrote in message
...
> Lorne Smith wrote:
> > If you own a DVD recorder, then all you need to do it copy the VOB
> > files from the DVD on to your computer. You'll then need to convert
> > them into a form which can be used by Premiere which will lose you a
> > bit of quality, but as long as you use a high enough biterate, this
> > won't be noticeable.
>
> OK,Thanks,this sounds like the go.I don't know what VOB files are but will
> explore at web site you mention below.
>
>
> > Go to www.dvdrhelp.com for full tutorials on how to do all this.
> > You'll want the Ripping guides, though your own DVDR's won't be copy
> > protected...
>
> Correct,my DVD's are not copy protected.They consist so far of DVD's made
> from DV camcorder (directly fed into DVD Recorder via firewire) and
material
> recorded from Free to Air TV. I realise that DV for example is a different
> format/codec but presume that by the time it's recorded to DVD it ends up
> like everything else i.e encoded to MPEG2??Supposedly then Premier would
> need to take the "VOB" files and decode them,then you edit,re-encode to
> MPEG2 and burn back to a new DVD?Is this the sort of stuff I should be
> looking for at dvdrhelp.com or am I way off track.
>
> BTW if this can all be done then I would have no need for a "capture card"
> in the PC,correct?...or are there some other benefits to the "capture
card"
> method?
>
> Thanks for help
> --
> Kind Regards,
> David
>
>
A VOB file is a DVD encoded MPEG2 file. Although essentially the same
format, they are usually to a higher resolution and have higher quality
audio. I don't think Premiere can access these directly so you will need to
convert them to standard mpeg2 or DV.

If your PC has a firewire port, you can transfer the video directly from
your camera to the PC using Premiere...

You are quite correct in that you won't need a capture card. Given the
hardware you already have, a capture card would just give you lower quality
video.

Again, you'll find all the answers at www.dvdrhelp.com :)

Lorne

[David Lewis]

Lorne,
Many thanks for all your help!

--
Kind Regards,
David