XP on 2 HDs - same PC?

sure, just make a clone of the first and swap the drives
anytime you want. I heve 4 drives in carriers that i swap
all the time.

http://www.fssdev.com/products/ make the clone

Want to test drive a Demo for 30 days. It has some
features disabled. ( drive sizing )

http://downloads-zdnet.com.com/3000-2248-10161151.html








>-----Original Message-----
>Help please..
>I have installed a second hard drive and would like a
second installation of XP so I can work with different
configurations (one that I use for "work" -- the other
for home). I have not yet activated the copy I installed
on my old HD (7 days left) because I was concerned that I
wouldn't be able to activate it on both HDs.
>So... since it is the same machine, if I activate on one
HD, can I still install it on the other?
>tiz
>.
>

[kurttrail]

By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"

jojo wrote:

> Help please..
> I have installed a second hard drive and would like a second
> installation of XP so I can work with different configurations (one
> that I use for "work" -- the other for home). I have not yet
> activated the copy I installed on my old HD (7 days left) because I
> was concerned that I wouldn't be able to activate it on both HDs.
> So... since it is the same machine, if I activate on one HD, can I
> still install it on the other?
> tiz

Shouldn't be a problem, but if you have to talk to a MS PA phone rep to
activate the second installation [highly unlikely], I wouldn't mention
the bit about it being installed twice on the same computer. I'd just
tell them that I did a hardware upgrade, but that's just me. You have
to come to your own decision about what's right for you.

MS would tell you that you have to buy a second copy.

http://www.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=u%24q0bobxDHA.2092%40TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fas_epq%3DGrant%2520of%2520License%26safe% 3Dimages%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26as_uauthors%3DMike%2520Brannigan%2520%26as_sco rin
g%3Dd%26lr%3D%26hl%3Den

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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

No. You are only permitted to install one (1) copy of Windows XP
and just one (1) computer. A second installation requires a new license
(Product Key). Otherwise, Product Activation will fail.

Go to Start > Run and type: WINVER , and hit enter.
Then click on "End-User License Agreement" for clarification.

You can also open XP's "Help and Support" and type: EULA
and hit enter. Click on "Questions and answers about the EULA".

Additional Licenses for Windows XP Home Edition
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/addlic.asp

Additional Licenses for Windows XP Professional
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/addlic.asp

--
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Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"jojo" > wrote in message:
...

| Help please..
| I have installed a second hard drive and would like a second installation of XP so I can work with different
configurations (one that I use for "work" -- the other for home). I have not yet activated the copy I
installed on my old HD (7 days left) because I was concerned that I wouldn't be able to activate it on both
HDs.
| So... since it is the same machine, if I activate on one HD, can I still install it on the other?
| tiz

[Scott M.]

Despite the other post, the answer is that you will be in violation of the
End User Liscense Agreement for Windows if you do and you may not be able to
activate the second copy.

You need to buy another copy of Windows.


"jojo" > wrote in message
...
> Help please..
> I have installed a second hard drive and would like a second installation
of XP so I can work with different configurations (one that I use for
"work" -- the other for home). I have not yet activated the copy I installed
on my old HD (7 days left) because I was concerned that I wouldn't be able
to activate it on both HDs.
> So... since it is the same machine, if I activate on one HD, can I still
install it on the other?
> tiz

[Harry Ohrn]

"jojo" > wrote in message
...
> Help please..
> I have installed a second hard drive and would like a second installation
of XP so I can work with different configurations (one that I use for
"work" -- the other for home). I have not yet activated the copy I installed
on my old HD (7 days left) because I was concerned that I wouldn't be able
to activate it on both HDs.
> So... since it is the same machine, if I activate on one HD, can I still
install it on the other?
> tiz

This has been the source of some debate. The answer to whether or not you
can activate without incident is yes. Activation won't present much of a
problem for you because Windows Product Activation requires significant
hardware changes before it locks you out and asks you to call the Activation
Center. Installing to a different hard drive on the same system would only
be seen as one difference in hardware configuration and WPA looks for
several changes. Alex Nichol's has written an excellent paper on WPA
http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm

However, and at the risk of stirring up the wrath of those who dislike
Microsoft's Licensing policy, if you read the End User License Agreement you
will note that you are only allowed to install one copy of the software on
one system (albeit you can reinstall as often as you like). Using the same
Product key to install XP on two drives (or different partitions) on the
same system would seem to be a violation of EULA. The debate about this
often revolves around usage. Because you can not run both installations
simultaneously are you in violation of the agreement. The answer would seem
to be yes given that the EULA explicitly says "one copy of the Product....."
it does not say you can install multiple copies on a single computer.
[quote]
"You may install, use, access, display and run one copy of the Product on a
single computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device
("Workstation Computer"). "
[end quote]

--

Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp

Who cares......lol





>-----Original Message-----
>Despite the other post, the answer is that you will be
in violation of the
>End User Liscense Agreement for Windows if you do and
you may not be able to
>activate the second copy.
>
>You need to buy another copy of Windows.
>
>
>"jojo" > wrote in
message
>news:1401607B-5337-4DB9-970B-
...
>> Help please..
>> I have installed a second hard drive and would like a
second installation
>of XP so I can work with different configurations (one
that I use for
>"work" -- the other for home). I have not yet activated
the copy I installed
>on my old HD (7 days left) because I was concerned that
I wouldn't be able
>to activate it on both HDs.
>> So... since it is the same machine, if I activate on
one HD, can I still
>install it on the other?
>> tiz
>
>
>.
>

Who cares......lol






>-----Original Message-----
>No. You are only permitted to install one (1) copy of
Windows XP
>and just one (1) computer. A second installation
requires a new license
>(Product Key). Otherwise, Product Activation will fail.
>
>Go to Start > Run and type: WINVER , and hit enter.
>Then click on "End-User License Agreement" for
clarification.
>
>You can also open XP's "Help and Support" and type: EULA
>and hit enter. Click on "Questions and answers about
the EULA".
>
>Additional Licenses for Windows XP Home Edition
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/addlic.a
sp
>
>Additional Licenses for Windows XP Professional
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/addlic.as
p
>
>--
>Carey Frisch
>Microsoft MVP
>Windows XP - Shell/User
>
>Be Smart! Protect your PC!
>http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/
>
>---------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------
>
>"jojo" > wrote in
message:
> news:1401607B-5337-4DB9-970B-
...
>
>| Help please..
>| I have installed a second hard drive and would like a
second installation of XP so I can work with different
>configurations (one that I use for "work" -- the other
for home). I have not yet activated the copy I
>installed on my old HD (7 days left) because I was
concerned that I wouldn't be able to activate it on both
>HDs.
>| So... since it is the same machine, if I activate on
one HD, can I still install it on the other?
>| tiz
>
>.
>

[kurttrail]

"By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"

wrote:

> Who cares......lol
>
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Despite the other post, the answer is that you will be
> in violation of the
>> End User Liscense Agreement for Windows if you do and
> you may not be able to
>> activate the second copy.
>>
>> You need to buy another copy of Windows.
>>
>>
>> "jojo" > wrote in
> message
>> news:1401607B-5337-4DB9-970B-
> ...
>>> Help please..
>>> I have installed a second hard drive and would like a
> second installation
>> of XP so I can work with different configurations (one
> that I use for
>> "work" -- the other for home). I have not yet activated
> the copy I installed
>> on my old HD (7 days left) because I was concerned that
> I wouldn't be able
>> to activate it on both HDs.
>>> So... since it is the same machine, if I activate on
> one HD, can I still
>> install it on the other?
>>> tiz
>>
>>
>> .

Despite what you say, MS has never proven they have the right to tell
people what they can and can do in the privacy of their own home. You
may accept MS's BS on faith, but most rational human beings will wait
for real proof before they do.

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Self-anointed Moderator
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

[anybody]

The 2nd activation will not fail. I run with a 120gb master and a 20gb
slave, both have XP activated on them. I have them in removeable drive
trays and can just unplug the 120gb and boot from the 20gb and windows could
care less.

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> No. You are only permitted to install one (1) copy of Windows XP
> and just one (1) computer. A second installation requires a new license
> (Product Key). Otherwise, Product Activation will fail.
>
> Go to Start > Run and type: WINVER , and hit enter.
> Then click on "End-User License Agreement" for clarification.
>
> You can also open XP's "Help and Support" and type: EULA
> and hit enter. Click on "Questions and answers about the EULA".
>
> Additional Licenses for Windows XP Home Edition
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/addlic.asp
>
> Additional Licenses for Windows XP Professional
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/addlic.asp
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
>
> Be Smart! Protect your PC!
> http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------
>
> "jojo" > wrote in message:
> ...
>
> | Help please..
> | I have installed a second hard drive and would like a second
installation of XP so I can work with different
> configurations (one that I use for "work" -- the other for home). I have
not yet activated the copy I
> installed on my old HD (7 days left) because I was concerned that I
wouldn't be able to activate it on both
> HDs.
> | So... since it is the same machine, if I activate on one HD, can I still
install it on the other?
> | tiz
>
>

[kurttrail]

"By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"

Harry Ohrn wrote:

> "jojo" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Help please..
>> I have installed a second hard drive and would like a second
>> installation
> of XP so I can work with different configurations (one that I use for
> "work" -- the other for home). I have not yet activated the copy I
> installed on my old HD (7 days left) because I was concerned that I
> wouldn't be able to activate it on both HDs.
>> So... since it is the same machine, if I activate on one HD, can I
>> still
> install it on the other?
>> tiz
>
> This has been the source of some debate. The answer to whether or not
> you can activate without incident is yes. Activation won't present
> much of a problem for you because Windows Product Activation requires
> significant hardware changes before it locks you out and asks you to
> call the Activation Center. Installing to a different hard drive on
> the same system would only be seen as one difference in hardware
> configuration and WPA looks for several changes. Alex Nichol's has
> written an excellent paper on WPA http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm
>
> However, and at the risk of stirring up the wrath of those who dislike
> Microsoft's Licensing policy, if you read the End User License
> Agreement you will note that you are only allowed to install one copy
> of the software on one system (albeit you can reinstall as often as
> you like). Using the same Product key to install XP on two drives (or
> different partitions) on the same system would seem to be a violation
> of EULA. The debate about this often revolves around usage. Because
> you can not run both installations simultaneously are you in
> violation of the agreement. The answer would seem to be yes given
> that the EULA explicitly says "one copy of the Product....." it does
> not say you can install multiple copies on a single computer. [quote]
> "You may install, use, access, display and run one copy of the
> Product on a single computer, such as a workstation, terminal or
> other device ("Workstation Computer"). "
> [end quote]

No wrath from me, Harry. You presented the truth information, along
with your opinion.

Activation should go smoothly, but MS EULA doesn't allow it. A PA
paradox!

Happy New Year!

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Self-anointed Moderator
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http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

[Mail]

I have to disagree. I have XP Pro installed three times on my computer and
I have told the person from Microsoft when I activated what I had done.
They told me I can install my copy of XP on ONE computer as many times as I
like including simultaneous installs on a muti boot system. I haven't tried
this yet but it may be possible to activate one copy and then clone it using
Norton's Ghost. Multi boot systems make a lot of sense in many situations
such as if you test a lot of software.

"Scott M." > wrote in message
...
> Despite the other post, the answer is that you will be in violation of the
> End User Liscense Agreement for Windows if you do and you may not be able
to
> activate the second copy.
>
> You need to buy another copy of Windows.
>
>
> "jojo" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Help please..
> > I have installed a second hard drive and would like a second
installation
> of XP so I can work with different configurations (one that I use for
> "work" -- the other for home). I have not yet activated the copy I
installed
> on my old HD (7 days left) because I was concerned that I wouldn't be able
> to activate it on both HDs.
> > So... since it is the same machine, if I activate on one HD, can I still
> install it on the other?
> > tiz
>
>

[CS]

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 18:35:39 GMT, "anybody" >
wrote:

You need to understand that Mr. Frisch is an apologist for MS and
really has no idea of what he writes. His answer will always be in
favor of MS whether or not it is correct. Your answer is correct.
Activation will not fail as has been reported here and elsewhere over
and over.

>The 2nd activation will not fail. I run with a 120gb master and a 20gb
>slave, both have XP activated on them. I have them in removeable drive
>trays and can just unplug the 120gb and boot from the 20gb and windows could
>care less.
>
>"Carey Frisch [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
>> No. You are only permitted to install one (1) copy of Windows XP
>> and just one (1) computer. A second installation requires a new license
>> (Product Key). Otherwise, Product Activation will fail.
>>
>> Go to Start > Run and type: WINVER , and hit enter.
>> Then click on "End-User License Agreement" for clarification.
>>
>> You can also open XP's "Help and Support" and type: EULA
>> and hit enter. Click on "Questions and answers about the EULA".
>>
>> Additional Licenses for Windows XP Home Edition
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/addlic.asp
>>
>> Additional Licenses for Windows XP Professional
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/addlic.asp
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows XP - Shell/User
>>
>> Be Smart! Protect your PC!
>> http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>------------------------
>>
>> "jojo" > wrote in message:
>> ...
>>
>> | Help please..
>> | I have installed a second hard drive and would like a second
>installation of XP so I can work with different
>> configurations (one that I use for "work" -- the other for home). I have
>not yet activated the copy I
>> installed on my old HD (7 days left) because I was concerned that I
>wouldn't be able to activate it on both
>> HDs.
>> | So... since it is the same machine, if I activate on one HD, can I still
>install it on the other?
>> | tiz
>>
>>
>

[Steve Nielsen]

As Harry quoted:

"You may install, use, access, display and run one copy of the Product on a
single computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device
("Workstation Computer")."

It seems to me that the qualifiers for this scenario are the words "use"
and "run" in that sentance; you can only run and use one operating
system at a time on a single computer.

Steve

Mail wrote:

> I have to disagree. I have XP Pro installed three times on my computer and
> I have told the person from Microsoft when I activated what I had done.
> They told me I can install my copy of XP on ONE computer as many times as I
> like including simultaneous installs on a muti boot system. I haven't tried
> this yet but it may be possible to activate one copy and then clone it using
> Norton's Ghost. Multi boot systems make a lot of sense in many situations
> such as if you test a lot of software.
>
> "Scott M." > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Despite the other post, the answer is that you will be in violation of the
>>End User Liscense Agreement for Windows if you do and you may not be able
>
> to
>
>>activate the second copy.
>>
>>You need to buy another copy of Windows.
>>
>>
>>"jojo" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>Help please..
>>>I have installed a second hard drive and would like a second
>
> installation
>
>>of XP so I can work with different configurations (one that I use for
>>"work" -- the other for home). I have not yet activated the copy I
>
> installed
>
>>on my old HD (7 days left) because I was concerned that I wouldn't be able
>>to activate it on both HDs.
>>
>>>So... since it is the same machine, if I activate on one HD, can I still
>>
>>install it on the other?
>>
>>>tiz
>>
>>
>
>

[Alex Nichol]

Harry Ohrn wrote:

>[quote]
>"You may install, use, access, display and run one copy of the Product on a
>single computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device
>("Workstation Computer"). "
>[end quote]

I suggest (to be sophistical) that if you install, and then do an exact
clone of the partition to another, it is still the same 'copy'. But
this is one of the places where the EULA is sloppily worded - another is
in the matter of transfer if you bought an OEM version with say a Hard
disk. What it actually says, and MSoft's interpretation are in conflict
(though overall their interpretation is probably better for the user)


--
Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)