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netnews.insightbb.com
December 5th 03, 12:07 AM
Hey all,

I built my last computer around the time XP came out. Now, almost 2 years
later, I'm thinking about upgrading the cpu and motherboard. My questions
is about the windows activation. This upgrade will more than likely cause
it all kinds of fits. Has anyone been down this road and did you have to
contact MS about it? How difficult was it?

Thanks,
Bryan

Kadaitcha Man
December 5th 03, 12:07 AM
netnews.insightbb.com wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I built my last computer around the time XP came out. Now, almost 2
> years later, I'm thinking about upgrading the cpu and motherboard.
> My questions is about the windows activation. This upgrade will more
> than likely cause it all kinds of fits. Has anyone been down this
> road and did you have to contact MS about it? How difficult was it?

You will have to clean install. XP will require reactivation. If you have
not reactivated in the last 120 days, you should have no issues. If you do
have issues, simply call MS.

Walter Clayton
December 5th 03, 12:07 AM
No problem. Just do a repair reinstall. You'll either have to reactivate or
not, but odds are if you have to reactivate it'll happen cleanly online.

--
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Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
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"netnews.insightbb.com" > wrote in message
news:raHqa.632606$3D1.349372@sccrnsc01...
> Hey all,
>
> I built my last computer around the time XP came out. Now, almost 2 years
> later, I'm thinking about upgrading the cpu and motherboard. My questions
> is about the windows activation. This upgrade will more than likely cause
> it all kinds of fits. Has anyone been down this road and did you have to
> contact MS about it? How difficult was it?
>
> Thanks,
> Bryan
>
>

Sir_George
December 5th 03, 12:07 AM
Kadaitcha Man,

The changes will not require a clean install, which translates to wiping the
disk. They will require a repair install and reactivation.

--
Sir_George


"Kadaitcha Man" > wrote in message
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> netnews.insightbb.com wrote:
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I built my last computer around the time XP came out. Now, almost 2
> > years later, I'm thinking about upgrading the cpu and motherboard.
> > My questions is about the windows activation. This upgrade will more
> > than likely cause it all kinds of fits. Has anyone been down this
> > road and did you have to contact MS about it? How difficult was it?
>
> You will have to clean install. XP will require reactivation. If you have
> not reactivated in the last 120 days, you should have no issues. If you do
> have issues, simply call MS.
>
>

Kadaitcha Man
December 5th 03, 12:07 AM
Sir_George wrote:
> Kadaitcha Man,

>>> I built my last computer around the time XP came out. Now, almost 2
>>> years later, I'm thinking about upgrading the cpu and motherboard.
>>> My questions is about the windows activation. This upgrade will
>>> more than likely cause it all kinds of fits. Has anyone been down
>>> this
>>> road and did you have to contact MS about it? How difficult was it?
>>
>> You will have to clean install. XP will require reactivation. If you
>> have not reactivated in the last 120 days, you should have no
>> issues. If you do have issues, simply call MS.

> The changes will not require a clean install, which translates to
> wiping the disk. They will require a repair install and reactivation.

Right, well. When he comes back complaining it's all ****ed up, you can
fix it for him, eh?

Trollslayer@thecave.com
December 5th 03, 12:08 AM
"Kadaitcha Man" > wrote in message
...
> Sir_George wrote:
> > Kadaitcha Man,
>
> >>> I built my last computer around the time XP came out. Now, almost 2
> >>> years later, I'm thinking about upgrading the cpu and motherboard.
> >>> My questions is about the windows activation. This upgrade will
> >>> more than likely cause it all kinds of fits. Has anyone been down
> >>> this
> >>> road and did you have to contact MS about it? How difficult was it?
> >>
> >> You will have to clean install. XP will require reactivation. If you
> >> have not reactivated in the last 120 days, you should have no
> >> issues. If you do have issues, simply call MS.
>
> > The changes will not require a clean install, which translates to
> > wiping the disk. They will require a repair install and reactivation.
>
> Right, well. When he comes back complaining it's all ****ed up, you can
> fix it for him, eh?
>
>

Since he made the recommendation he did, I doubt he has the mental
capabilties to fix anything. A clean install is the only way to go. Anything
else is asking for trouble. Reactivating is a small price to pay for
stability.

Buster

Sir_George
December 5th 03, 12:08 AM
Kadaitcha Man,

Misinformation has never helped anyone. So, the fact that your advice is
probably an overkill was my point. Generally hardware upgrades don't cause
problems so severe that you need to format the drive.

Your use of profanity is unnecessary, try and use more acceptable language.

--
Sir_George


"Kadaitcha Man" > wrote in message
...
> Sir_George wrote:
> > Kadaitcha Man,
>
> >>> I built my last computer around the time XP came out. Now, almost 2
> >>> years later, I'm thinking about upgrading the cpu and motherboard.
> >>> My questions is about the windows activation. This upgrade will
> >>> more than likely cause it all kinds of fits. Has anyone been down
> >>> this
> >>> road and did you have to contact MS about it? How difficult was it?
> >>
> >> You will have to clean install. XP will require reactivation. If you
> >> have not reactivated in the last 120 days, you should have no
> >> issues. If you do have issues, simply call MS.
>
> > The changes will not require a clean install, which translates to
> > wiping the disk. They will require a repair install and reactivation.
>
> Right, well. When he comes back complaining it's all ****ed up, you can
> fix it for him, eh?
>
>

Kadaitcha Man
December 5th 03, 12:08 AM
wrote:

> Since he made the recommendation he did, I doubt he has the mental
> capabilties to fix anything. A clean install is the only way to go.
> Anything else is asking for trouble.

That's precisely why a clean install is called for. There's no point taking
the easy option just to end up ****ing something.

Kadaitcha Man
December 5th 03, 12:08 AM
Sir_George wrote:

> your advice is probably an overkill

Only probably? You mean, it's a matter of opinion? Well, look, if I want
your opinion, I will give it to you.

> Your use of profanity is unnecessary, try and use more acceptable
> language.

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Michael Stevens
December 5th 03, 12:08 AM
netnews.insightbb.com wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I built my last computer around the time XP came out. Now, almost 2
> years later, I'm thinking about upgrading the cpu and motherboard.
> My questions is about the windows activation. This upgrade will more
> than likely cause it all kinds of fits. Has anyone been down this
> road and did you have to contact MS about it? How difficult was it?
>
> Thanks,
> Bryan

You will have no problem with activation and for a step by step on changing
your XP systems motherboard click on the link below.
If using the web based newsgroups copy and paste the link into your web
browser address bar.
http://michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html
--

Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP

http://michaelstevenstech.com

Fox
December 5th 03, 12:08 AM
"Sir_George" > wrote in message
...
> Kadaitcha Man,
>
> Misinformation has never helped anyone. So, the fact that your advice
is
> probably an overkill was my point. Generally hardware upgrades don't
cause
> problems so severe that you need to format the drive.

Generally hardware upgrades don't require a re-install but replacing
the motherboard isn't a general hardware upgrade. Absolutly everything
inside your computer is connected to the motherboard when you replace it
everything will be confused about its IRQ setting amongst other things.
This is also taking into account that the IDE drivers work with the new
motherborad.

A reinstall is the only way to go when replacing the motherborad, if
your computer does happen to boot first time without reinstalling you
will be lucky but it will also be almost unusable. The only way to go is
a reinstall. And at least if he follows our advice he will be prepared
for this and backup his data. To say that it done'st like you have he
might assume it is an easy upgrade and lose everything.

Fox

Bruce Chambers
December 5th 03, 12:08 AM
Greetings --

Normally, unless the new motherboard is virtually identical to the
old one (same chipset, IDE controllers, etc), you'll need to perform a
repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least:

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

This may also require re-activation. If it's been more than 120
days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most
likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's
been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.


Bruce Chambers

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"netnews.insightbb.com" > wrote in message
news:raHqa.632606$3D1.349372@sccrnsc01...
> Hey all,
>
> I built my last computer around the time XP came out. Now, almost 2
years
> later, I'm thinking about upgrading the cpu and motherboard. My
questions
> is about the windows activation. This upgrade will more than likely
cause
> it all kinds of fits. Has anyone been down this road and did you
have to
> contact MS about it? How difficult was it?
>
> Thanks,
> Bryan
>
>

Trollslayer@thecave.com
December 5th 03, 12:09 AM
"Kadaitcha Man" > wrote in message
...
> wrote:
>
> > Since he made the recommendation he did, I doubt he has the mental
> > capabilties to fix anything. A clean install is the only way to go.
> > Anything else is asking for trouble.
>
> That's precisely why a clean install is called for. There's no point
taking
> the easy option just to end up ****ing something.
>
>

Exactly!

Buster

Microbes@Work
December 5th 03, 12:26 AM
I just did an dramatic upgrade from a 266MHz Cyrix to a 2.66GHz P4.

I needed to re-activate (which was painless) and XP had no problems
recognizing all the new resources from my new Intel MB.

After getting XP up and running, I downloaded a new chipset upgrade from the
Intel site. Again, all the patches applied themselves painlessly.

There is no need to do a clean XP install.

The same, however, cannot be said about win98 (which I have as a dual boot).
It was nighmare.

AC


On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 22:36:32 -0600, "Sir_George" >
wrote:

>Kadaitcha Man,
>
>Misinformation has never helped anyone. So, the fact that your advice is
>probably an overkill was my point. Generally hardware upgrades don't cause
>problems so severe that you need to format the drive.
>
>Your use of profanity is unnecessary, try and use more acceptable language.

Walter Clayton
December 5th 03, 12:28 AM
The trick on 9x is to clip the HKLM\Enum branch in the registry and let it
redetect. :-)

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://www.dts-l.org
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp


"Microbes@Work" > wrote in message
...
> I just did an dramatic upgrade from a 266MHz Cyrix to a 2.66GHz P4.
>
> I needed to re-activate (which was painless) and XP had no problems
> recognizing all the new resources from my new Intel MB.
>
> After getting XP up and running, I downloaded a new chipset upgrade from
the
> Intel site. Again, all the patches applied themselves painlessly.
>
> There is no need to do a clean XP install.
>
> The same, however, cannot be said about win98 (which I have as a dual
boot).
> It was nighmare.
>
> AC
>
>
> On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 22:36:32 -0600, "Sir_George" >
> wrote:
>
> >Kadaitcha Man,
> >
> >Misinformation has never helped anyone. So, the fact that your advice is
> >probably an overkill was my point. Generally hardware upgrades don't
cause
> >problems so severe that you need to format the drive.
> >
> >Your use of profanity is unnecessary, try and use more acceptable
language.
>

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