windows 811493 update

[~¢makey$]

I was one of the unfortunate ones to update with windows 811493 update.
Short of removing or uninstalling it, is their any other way to accomplish
this. I have installed no less that thirteen programs and it says it will
revert back to before I installed same. It would take a great deal of time
and effort to do so.
Any fixes?

[Crusty \(-: Old Bastard :-\)]

Umm! Add/remove programs?

"~¢makey$" > wrote in message
news:Z0Zqa.373655$OV.394306@rwcrnsc54...
> I was one of the unfortunate ones to update with windows 811493 update.
> Short of removing or uninstalling it, is their any other way to accomplish
> this. I have installed no less that thirteen programs and it says it will
> revert back to before I installed same. It would take a great deal of
time
> and effort to do so.
> Any fixes?
>
>

[William B. Lurie]

"~¢makey$" wrote:

> I was one of the unfortunate ones to update with windows 811493 update.
> Short of removing or uninstalling it, is their any other way to accomplish
> this. I have installed no less that thirteen programs and it says it will
> revert back to before I installed same. It would take a great deal of time
> and effort to do so.
> Any fixes?

I was the guy who reported that some people were unhappy with that item.
I got good advice on how to remove it, and it alone. It's just Control Panel,
Add/Remove programs, then find the list of all the Windows programs,
811493 is in the list, just uninstall 811493,alone, period.

William B. Lurie

[~¢makey$]

I realize that, as I stated before, the message says it will try and revert
back to settings before I installed the (13) thirteen software programs, I
had hoped for an answer that I wasn't already aware of. Or is sarcasm the
standard on the newsgroup?

"Crusty (-: Old ******* :-)" > wrote in
message ...
> Umm! Add/remove programs?
>
> "~¢makey$" > wrote in message
> news:Z0Zqa.373655$OV.394306@rwcrnsc54...
> > I was one of the unfortunate ones to update with windows 811493 update.
> > Short of removing or uninstalling it, is their any other way to
accomplish
> > this. I have installed no less that thirteen programs and it says it
will
> > revert back to before I installed same. It would take a great deal of
> time
> > and effort to do so.
> > Any fixes?
> >
> >
>
>

[Nicholas]

Go to Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs and uninstall=20
Windows XP Hoxfix (SP2) Q811493.

--=20
Nicholas

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"~=A2makey$" > wrote in message: =20
news:Z0Zqa.373655$OV.394306@rwcrnsc54...

| I was one of the unfortunate ones to update with windows 811493 =
update.
| Short of removing or uninstalling it, is their any other way to =
accomplish
| this. I have installed no less that thirteen programs and it says it =
will
| revert back to before I installed same. It would take a great deal =
of time
| and effort to do so.
| Any fixes?
|=20
|

[Crusty \(-: Old Bastard :-\)]

Just use add/remove programs!!!!!

"~¢makey$" > wrote in message
news:qaZqa.667446$S_4.718291@rwcrnsc53...
> I realize that, as I stated before, the message says it will try and
revert
> back to settings before I installed the (13) thirteen software programs, I
> had hoped for an answer that I wasn't already aware of. Or is sarcasm the
> standard on the newsgroup?
>
> "Crusty (-: Old ******* :-)" > wrote in
> message ...
> > Umm! Add/remove programs?
> >
> > "~¢makey$" > wrote in message
> > news:Z0Zqa.373655$OV.394306@rwcrnsc54...
> > > I was one of the unfortunate ones to update with windows 811493
update.
> > > Short of removing or uninstalling it, is their any other way to
> accomplish
> > > this. I have installed no less that thirteen programs and it says it
> will
> > > revert back to before I installed same. It would take a great deal
of
> > time
> > > and effort to do so.
> > > Any fixes?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Torgeir Bakken (MVP)]

"~¢makey$" wrote:

> I was one of the unfortunate ones to update with windows 811493 update.
> Short of removing or uninstalling it, is their any other way to accomplish
> this. I have installed no less that thirteen programs and it says it will
> revert back to before I installed same. It would take a great deal of time
> and effort to do so.
> Any fixes?

Hi

You should remove it using Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel.

If you get a warning that other installs may stop working if you remove it,
just ignore it.

This method will not uninstall or affect your other 13 programs you installed
after the 811493 update.

--
torgeir
Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of the 1328 page
Scripting Guide: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter

[~¢makey$]

Thanks, I removed it and seems like only one of the programs was affected,
at least it wasn't all of them, again thanks to all who offered constructive
help.

"Torgeir Bakken (MVP)" > wrote in message
...
> "~¢makey$" wrote:
>
> > I was one of the unfortunate ones to update with windows 811493 update.
> > Short of removing or uninstalling it, is their any other way to
accomplish
> > this. I have installed no less that thirteen programs and it says it
will
> > revert back to before I installed same. It would take a great deal of
time
> > and effort to do so.
> > Any fixes?
>
> Hi
>
> You should remove it using Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel.
>
> If you get a warning that other installs may stop working if you remove
it,
> just ignore it.
>
> This method will not uninstall or affect your other 13 programs you
installed
> after the 811493 update.
>
> --
> torgeir
> Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
> Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of the 1328 page
> Scripting Guide: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter
>
>

[Tip]

"~¢makey$" > wrote in message
news:Z0Zqa.373655$OV.394306@rwcrnsc54...
> I was one of the unfortunate ones to update with windows 811493 update.
> Short of removing or uninstalling it, is their any other way to accomplish
> this. I have installed no less that thirteen programs and it says it will
> revert back to before I installed same. It would take a great deal of
time
> and effort to do so.
> Any fixes?
>
I got the same warning, although I think I had about six programs it said
there might be a problem with. I uninstalled anyway and have had no problems
with any programs since. I noticed my system was faster afterwards also.


--
Tip
www.gotips.net

[Rick Merrill]

Torgeir Bakken (MVP) wrote:
> "~¢makey$" wrote:
>
>
>>I was one of the unfortunate ones to update with windows 811493 update.
>>Short of removing or uninstalling it, is their any other way to accomplish
>>this. I have installed no less that thirteen programs and it says it will
>>revert back to before I installed same. It would take a great deal of time
>>and effort to do so.
>>Any fixes?
>
>
> Hi
>
> You should remove it using Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel.
>
> If you get a warning that other installs may stop working if you remove it,
> just ignore it.
>
> This method will not uninstall or affect your other 13 programs you installed
> after the 811493 update.
>
> --
> torgeir
> Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
> Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of the 1328 page
> Scripting Guide: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter
>
>


811493 seems to have been withdrawn! - RM

[Torgeir Bakken (MVP)]

Rick Merrill wrote:

> 811493 seems to have been withdrawn! - RM

Hi

It was moved from the critical update list to the recommended update list at
Windows Update, at least for WinXP.


--
torgeir
Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of the 1328 page Scripting
Guide: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter

[Saverio Mercurio]

I think you're missing the point of his question. He's not asking how to
remove 811493: he already knows how to do that. He's just confused over the
fact that when removing 811493 it tells him that these other programs that
he installed *after* 811493 are going to be "affected". This is just
Microsoft's half-*** attempt at keeping everything proper. He's asking if
there's a way to remove 811493 without potentially "affecting" the 13
programs he installed *after* 811493. The answer, as stated in later
responses, is to ignore the message that the 811493 uninstaller tells you.
Nine times out of ten you'll be fine.

As for his the poster's comment regarding sarcasm: I agree with him.

--
Saverio Mercurio

NOTE: My email address has been purposefully altered to thwart mailing list
harvesters.


"Crusty (-: Old ******* :-)" > wrote in
message ...
> Just use add/remove programs!!!!!
>
> "~¢makey$" > wrote in message
> news:qaZqa.667446$S_4.718291@rwcrnsc53...
> > I realize that, as I stated before, the message says it will try and
> revert
> > back to settings before I installed the (13) thirteen software programs,
I
> > had hoped for an answer that I wasn't already aware of. Or is sarcasm
the
> > standard on the newsgroup?
> >
> > "Crusty (-: Old ******* :-)" > wrote in
> > message ...
> > > Umm! Add/remove programs?
> > >
> > > "~¢makey$" > wrote in message
> > > news:Z0Zqa.373655$OV.394306@rwcrnsc54...
> > > > I was one of the unfortunate ones to update with windows 811493
> update.
> > > > Short of removing or uninstalling it, is their any other way to
> > accomplish
> > > > this. I have installed no less that thirteen programs and it says
it
> > will
> > > > revert back to before I installed same. It would take a great deal
> of
> > > time
> > > > and effort to do so.
> > > > Any fixes?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Jim Macklin]

When I removed 811493, McAfee reported that its files had
been altered and it prompted for a scan and reinstall.

Other than that, no effects noted, except the computer now
runs at normal FAST speed.



"Saverio Mercurio" >
wrote in message
...
| I think you're missing the point of his question. He's not
asking how to
| remove 811493: he already knows how to do that. He's just
confused over the
| fact that when removing 811493 it tells him that these
other programs that
| he installed *after* 811493 are going to be "affected".
This is just
| Microsoft's half-*** attempt at keeping everything proper.
He's asking if
| there's a way to remove 811493 without potentially
"affecting" the 13
| programs he installed *after* 811493. The answer, as
stated in later
| responses, is to ignore the message that the 811493
uninstaller tells you.
| Nine times out of ten you'll be fine.
|
| As for his the poster's comment regarding sarcasm: I agree
with him.
|
| --
| Saverio Mercurio
|
| NOTE: My email address has been purposefully altered to
thwart mailing list
| harvesters.
|
|
| "Crusty (-: Old ******* :-)"
> wrote in
| message ...
| > Just use add/remove programs!!!!!
| >
| > "~¢makey$" > wrote in
message
| > news:qaZqa.667446$S_4.718291@rwcrnsc53...
| > > I realize that, as I stated before, the message says
it will try and
| > revert
| > > back to settings before I installed the (13) thirteen
software programs,
| I
| > > had hoped for an answer that I wasn't already aware
of. Or is sarcasm
| the
| > > standard on the newsgroup?
| > >
| > > "Crusty (-: Old ******* :-)"
> wrote in
| > > message ...
| > > > Umm! Add/remove programs?
| > > >
| > > > "~¢makey$" > wrote
in message
| > > > news:Z0Zqa.373655$OV.394306@rwcrnsc54...
| > > > > I was one of the unfortunate ones to update with
windows 811493
| > update.
| > > > > Short of removing or uninstalling it, is their any
other way to
| > > accomplish
| > > > > this. I have installed no less that thirteen
programs and it says
| it
| > > will
| > > > > revert back to before I installed same. It would
take a great deal
| > of
| > > > time
| > > > > and effort to do so.
| > > > > Any fixes?
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > >
| > > >
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|

[Jon]

"Saverio Mercurio" > wrote in =
message ...

> As for his the poster's comment regarding sarcasm: I agree with him.

Yes,

Crusty can be a prick at times, and is usually unhelpful as looks to rip =
on people to satisfy his boring life of an old man. You were right in =
saying to ignore the warning about uninstalling 811493, it will have no =
effect on the programs it list that the uninstall states will affect.

[Rick Merrill]

Has 811493 been removed from the update list?

I had not used it because of seeing this thread. Now it
does not show up in the list. So I assume it has been
withdrawn. - RM

[Jim Carlock]

As of yesterday, it is still listed as a fix. It was either listed as a
critical update or as a recommended update yesterday when I installed it.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811493

Is it recommended to be uninstalled by Microsoft?

Jim Carlock

[Rick Merrill]

Jim Carlock wrote:
> As of yesterday, it is still listed as a fix. It was either listed as a
> critical update or as a recommended update yesterday when I installed it.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811493
>
> Is it recommended to be uninstalled by Microsoft?
>
> Jim Carlock
>
>

ooop! you're right - I was looking under "critical" and it is still
under the 'xp ' list. - RM

[Jim Carlock]

It's listed as a Critical Update for Windows 2000 Server as of today. I just
uninstalled it then reinstalled it.

Jim Carlock

"Rick Merrill" > wrote in message
...
> Jim Carlock wrote:
> > As of yesterday, it is still listed as a fix. It was either listed as a
> > critical update or as a recommended update yesterday when I installed
it.
> >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=811493
> >
> > Is it recommended to be uninstalled by Microsoft?
> >
> > Jim Carlock
> >
> >
>
> ooop! you're right - I was looking under "critical" and it is still
> under the 'xp ' list. - RM
>

[Torgeir Bakken (MVP)]

Rick Merrill wrote:

> Has 811493 been removed from the update list?
>
> I had not used it because of seeing this thread. Now it
> does not show up in the list. So I assume it has been
> withdrawn. - RM

Hi

It was moved from the critical update list to the recommended update list at
Windows Update, at least for WinXP.


--
torgeir
Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of the 1328 page
Scripting Guide: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter

[johnf]

Yes, but that's not much help unless they've fixed it. Has it been - or are
they planning to?
At least they should have added a warning of possible subsequences, which
are insidious.

johnf

Torgeir Bakken (MVP) wrote:
> Rick Merrill wrote:
>
>> Has 811493 been removed from the update list?
>>
>> I had not used it because of seeing this thread. Now it
>> does not show up in the list. So I assume it has been
>> withdrawn. - RM
>
> Hi
>
> It was moved from the critical update list to the recommended update
> list at Windows Update, at least for WinXP.

[Torgeir Bakken (MVP)]

johnf wrote:

> Torgeir Bakken (MVP) wrote:
> >
> > It was moved from the critical update list to the recommended update
> > list at Windows Update, at least for WinXP.
>
> Yes, but that's not much help unless they've fixed it. Has it been - or are
> they planning to?

MS is working on the problem.


> At least they should have added a warning of possible subsequences, which
> are insidious.

They did that April 23:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-013.asp

Revisions:

(snip)
V1.2 April 23, 2003: Added information regarding performance related issues
with Windows XP SP1 patch

V1.3 April 25, 2003: Added link to KB article that discusses performance
related issues with Windows XP SP1 patch


and the KB article mentioned in the V1.3 revision of the Microsoft Security
Bulletin MS03-013:

You May Experience Performance Issues After You Install the 811493 (MS03-013)
Package on Your Windows XP SP1-Based Computer
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=819634

--
torgeir
Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of the 1328 page
Scripting Guide: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter

[johnf]

Torgeir Bakken (MVP) wrote:
> johnf wrote:
>
>> Torgeir Bakken (MVP) wrote:
>>>
>>> It was moved from the critical update list to the recommended update
>>> list at Windows Update, at least for WinXP.
>>
>> Yes, but that's not much help unless they've fixed it. Has it been -
>> or are they planning to?
>
> MS is working on the problem.
>
>
>> At least they should have added a warning of possible subsequences,
>> which are insidious.
>
> They did that April 23:
>
>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-013.asp

Sorry, Torgeir, I just delved deeper into "read more" - it's all in there if
you can find it.
I wonder how many people actually do read that, or just adopt the attitude
that "MS says I need it, so I'll download it".

Also, what happens if you have "Auto-download & install" enabled? Once
again. you have the symptoms. but don't know what's causing them.
IMO, because of that last possibility, MS should withdraw it until it's
fixed - after all, it's not Critical.

johnf

>
> Revisions:
>
> (snip)
> V1.2 April 23, 2003: Added information regarding performance related
> issues with Windows XP SP1 patch
>
> V1.3 April 25, 2003: Added link to KB article that discusses
> performance related issues with Windows XP SP1 patch
>
>
> and the KB article mentioned in the V1.3 revision of the Microsoft
> Security Bulletin MS03-013:
>
> You May Experience Performance Issues After You Install the 811493
> (MS03-013) Package on Your Windows XP SP1-Based Computer
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=819634

[Torgeir Bakken (MVP)]

johnf wrote:

> Sorry, Torgeir, I just delved deeper into "read more" - it's all in there if
> you can find it.
> I wonder how many people actually do read that, or just adopt the attitude
> that "MS says I need it, so I'll download it".
>
> Also, what happens if you have "Auto-download & install" enabled? Once
> again. you have the symptoms. but don't know what's causing them.

Are the ones listed in Recommended Update auto-downloaded & installed?


> IMO, because of that last possibility, MS should withdraw it until it's
> fixed - after all, it's not Critical.

It's still a security update, and getting a performance hit on some computers are not a
good enough reason to pull it completely really. The move to the Recommended Update list
was the reasonable thing to do if you ask me. This way those who want it can install it.

--
torgeir
Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter

[johnf]

Torgeir Bakken (MVP) wrote:
> johnf wrote:
>
>> Sorry, Torgeir, I just delved deeper into "read more" - it's all in
>> there if you can find it.
>> I wonder how many people actually do read that, or just adopt the
>> attitude that "MS says I need it, so I'll download it".
>>
>> Also, what happens if you have "Auto-download & install" enabled?
>> Once again. you have the symptoms. but don't know what's causing
>> them.
>
> Are the ones listed in Recommended Update auto-downloaded & installed?

Good question - I don't know, as I have it set to notify only, possibly not.

john

>
>
>> IMO, because of that last possibility, MS should withdraw it until
>> it's fixed - after all, it's not Critical.
>
> It's still a security update, and getting a performance hit on some
> computers are not a good enough reason to pull it completely really.
> The move to the Recommended Update list was the reasonable thing to
> do if you ask me. This way those who want it can install it.

[Joan Archer]

I do <g> I have auto-update set to notify me so I can go to the site and
check it out before downloading, I also subscribe to the MS Security
Bulletin so have knowledge of what's going to come in.
Joan

"johnf" > wrote in message
> >
> I wonder how many people actually do read that, or just adopt the attitude
> that "MS says I need it, so I'll download it".
>

[lildevil]

I just started watching this group so I do not have access to the beginning
of the thread.
I am unable to download 811493 on XP and hope that someone can shed some
light on what to do.
I have tried 3 times but to no avail.
Thankyou
"Joan Archer" > wrote in message
...
> I do <g> I have auto-update set to notify me so I can go to the site and
> check it out before downloading, I also subscribe to the MS Security
> Bulletin so have knowledge of what's going to come in.
> Joan
>
> "johnf" > wrote in message
> > >
> > I wonder how many people actually do read that, or just adopt the
attitude
> > that "MS says I need it, so I'll download it".
> >
>
>

[Torgeir Bakken (MVP)]

lildevil wrote:

> I just started watching this group so I do not have access to the beginning
> of the thread.
> I am unable to download 811493 on XP and hope that someone can shed some
> light on what to do.
> I have tried 3 times but to no avail.

Hi

Note that there are some issues with 811493:

You May Experience Performance Issues After You Install the 811493 (MS03-013)
Package on Your Windows XP SP1-Based Computer
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=819634

If you notice a system slowdown, remove it from Add/Remove Programs in the
Control Panel instead of doing a system restore. If you get a warning that
other installs may stop working if you remove it, just ignore it.


Back to your problem:

For get Windows Update to work again, renaming or deleting the Catroot2 folder
may solve the problem.

Go to http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;326815

Follow the steps 6 to 8 in the Resolution section of above link (do a reboot
first so the computer is "fresh" before you do the steps).

Then try to install the update again.

Disregard that the link above is for SP1, the Catroot2 problem is relevant for
other updates as well. The Catroot2 problem can be avoided by installing
Q817287.

Windows Update 643 Error and the Catalog Database
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;817287


If renaming or deleting the Catroot2 folder doesn't help, try this:

Check your "windows update.log" file for specific error code (the log file
is in your windows folder) and take look at this Web page:

Windows Update Troubleshooter
http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/troubleshoot/

--
torgeir
Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of the 1328 page
Scripting Guide: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter