Memory problems when burning CDs

[Robert Phillips]

Hi all,

I'm experiencing some memory problems during and after using WinXP Pro's
built-in CD-burning utility.
I seem to lose hard-drive space during the process, and deleting the
files that I've just burned doesn't free up that space.
For instance, if I start with 1 gig free HD space, and burn 500 mbs onto
a CD, then theoretically, I should be able to delete those 500 mbs off
the HD and wind up with 1.5 gigs free. Right? Wrong.
After I burn the CD, I check my free space (by clicking on my comp), and
I'm down to 500 mbs free. I delete the 500 mbs that I burned from the
HD, and I'm STILL at only 500 mbs free. So not only am I not able to
free up the HD space after burning it, but I wind up with LESS free HD
space even AFTER deleting the original files.
This evening, I started with about 1.2 gigs of hard-drive space. I
burnt a few CDs of files, and then deleted the originals off the
HD...and now I'm down to 108mbs of free space. Clearly, something is wrong.

I've deleted the files from the temporary storage aread that WinXP sets
up for the burning process. There's nothing there. Yes, I've emptied
the recycle bin; it's empty. I'm thinking it might have something to do
with some temp file(s) or folder(s) that maybe WinXP sets up during the
burn. But I've searched for every file and folder with 'temp' in it,
and I can't find one that even approaches hundreds of megabytes in size
and which could account for the missing space. I've searched for the
files that I burnt, to see if WinXP created some kinda temporary,
'mirror' versions of them during the burn. Nothing; there's nothing on
my hard-drive with any name similar to the names of the files that I've
burnt onto the CDs.

I also have, and use, Nero 5.5. and MusicMatch Plus to burn CDs. Both
of those programs burn perfectly, and after I delete whatever I've burnt
with those two programs, I wind up with more free space, exactly as I
expect. This happens ONLY when using WinXP's burning utility.

My system specs are:
AMD Athlon @ 1.04 GHz
512 mb RAM
Windows XP Professional 2002 version
40-gig HD

I welcome any assistance, and thank in advance anybody who can help. I
ask only that you send any assistance via private e-mail as well as by
posting to these newsgroups, to ensure that I see your responses without
them getting lost in the newsgroup traffic. Again, thanks in advance.


Rob Phillips

[Chris Jackson \(MVP\)]

If you have files in the queue to burn, you should just be able to browse to
the CD-R drive and find "Delete temporary files" in the task pane.

There are two places where extra stuff ends up:

1. Temporary files are copied to c:\documents and settings\<username>\local
settings\application data\microsoft\cd burning

Delete this using the task pane.

2. During the burn process, ANOTHER file is created - an image file that the
CD is burned from. If it's a data CD, it will be burning stash file.bin. If
it's a music cd, it will be stashimapi.bin. This can be found in the root of
the drive you are burning from.

--
Chris Jackson
Software Engineer
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Associate Expert
--
"Robert Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> Hi all,
>
> I'm experiencing some memory problems during and after using WinXP Pro's
> built-in CD-burning utility.
> I seem to lose hard-drive space during the process, and deleting the
> files that I've just burned doesn't free up that space.
> For instance, if I start with 1 gig free HD space, and burn 500 mbs onto
> a CD, then theoretically, I should be able to delete those 500 mbs off
> the HD and wind up with 1.5 gigs free. Right? Wrong.
> After I burn the CD, I check my free space (by clicking on my comp), and
> I'm down to 500 mbs free. I delete the 500 mbs that I burned from the
> HD, and I'm STILL at only 500 mbs free. So not only am I not able to
> free up the HD space after burning it, but I wind up with LESS free HD
> space even AFTER deleting the original files.
> This evening, I started with about 1.2 gigs of hard-drive space. I
> burnt a few CDs of files, and then deleted the originals off the
> HD...and now I'm down to 108mbs of free space. Clearly, something is
wrong.
>
> I've deleted the files from the temporary storage aread that WinXP sets
> up for the burning process. There's nothing there. Yes, I've emptied
> the recycle bin; it's empty. I'm thinking it might have something to do
> with some temp file(s) or folder(s) that maybe WinXP sets up during the
> burn. But I've searched for every file and folder with 'temp' in it,
> and I can't find one that even approaches hundreds of megabytes in size
> and which could account for the missing space. I've searched for the
> files that I burnt, to see if WinXP created some kinda temporary,
> 'mirror' versions of them during the burn. Nothing; there's nothing on
> my hard-drive with any name similar to the names of the files that I've
> burnt onto the CDs.
>
> I also have, and use, Nero 5.5. and MusicMatch Plus to burn CDs. Both
> of those programs burn perfectly, and after I delete whatever I've burnt
> with those two programs, I wind up with more free space, exactly as I
> expect. This happens ONLY when using WinXP's burning utility.
>
> My system specs are:
> AMD Athlon @ 1.04 GHz
> 512 mb RAM
> Windows XP Professional 2002 version
> 40-gig HD
>
> I welcome any assistance, and thank in advance anybody who can help. I
> ask only that you send any assistance via private e-mail as well as by
> posting to these newsgroups, to ensure that I see your responses without
> them getting lost in the newsgroup traffic. Again, thanks in advance.
>
>
> Rob Phillips
>
>

[Frankovich]

My guess is it is in temp;
My location:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\DELTREE.EXE /y "C:\Documents and Settings\franko\Local
Settings\Temp\*"
That is my desktop shortcut to clear it.
Use deltree.exe from my web page:
Put it in c:\windows\system32 folder.

--
My XP Web Page:
http://home.kooee.com.au/kingul/xp.html

[Ed C]

Try emptying the recycling bin after you delete the files from your HDD.

--
Ed Chatlos



"Robert Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> Hi all,
>
> I'm experiencing some memory problems during and after using WinXP Pro's
> built-in CD-burning utility.
> I seem to lose hard-drive space during the process, and deleting the
> files that I've just burned doesn't free up that space.
> For instance, if I start with 1 gig free HD space, and burn 500 mbs onto
> a CD, then theoretically, I should be able to delete those 500 mbs off
> the HD and wind up with 1.5 gigs free. Right? Wrong.
> After I burn the CD, I check my free space (by clicking on my comp), and
> I'm down to 500 mbs free. I delete the 500 mbs that I burned from the
> HD, and I'm STILL at only 500 mbs free. So not only am I not able to
> free up the HD space after burning it, but I wind up with LESS free HD
> space even AFTER deleting the original files.
> This evening, I started with about 1.2 gigs of hard-drive space. I
> burnt a few CDs of files, and then deleted the originals off the
> HD...and now I'm down to 108mbs of free space. Clearly, something is
wrong.
>
> I've deleted the files from the temporary storage aread that WinXP sets
> up for the burning process. There's nothing there. Yes, I've emptied
> the recycle bin; it's empty. I'm thinking it might have something to do
> with some temp file(s) or folder(s) that maybe WinXP sets up during the
> burn. But I've searched for every file and folder with 'temp' in it,
> and I can't find one that even approaches hundreds of megabytes in size
> and which could account for the missing space. I've searched for the
> files that I burnt, to see if WinXP created some kinda temporary,
> 'mirror' versions of them during the burn. Nothing; there's nothing on
> my hard-drive with any name similar to the names of the files that I've
> burnt onto the CDs.
>
> I also have, and use, Nero 5.5. and MusicMatch Plus to burn CDs. Both
> of those programs burn perfectly, and after I delete whatever I've burnt
> with those two programs, I wind up with more free space, exactly as I
> expect. This happens ONLY when using WinXP's burning utility.
>
> My system specs are:
> AMD Athlon @ 1.04 GHz
> 512 mb RAM
> Windows XP Professional 2002 version
> 40-gig HD
>
> I welcome any assistance, and thank in advance anybody who can help. I
> ask only that you send any assistance via private e-mail as well as by
> posting to these newsgroups, to ensure that I see your responses without
> them getting lost in the newsgroup traffic. Again, thanks in advance.
>
>
> Rob Phillips
>
>

[Robert Phillips]

Chris Jackson (MVP) wrote:

>If you have files in the queue to burn, you should just be able to browse to
>the CD-R drive and find "Delete temporary files" in the task pane.
>
>
Yes, that was the first thing I checked. I did that, and the memory is
still gone.

>There are two places where extra stuff ends up:
>
>1. Temporary files are copied to c:\documents and settings\<username>\local
>settings\application data\microsoft\cd burning
>Delete this using the task pane.
>
>
Did that, too. No effect.

>2. During the burn process, ANOTHER file is created - an image file that the
>CD is burned from. If it's a data CD, it will be burning stash file.bin. If
>it's a music cd, it will be stashimapi.bin. This can be found in the root of
>the drive you are burning from.
>
>
I'm a little unclear - what do you mean "the root of the drive"? My
burning drive is D, for instance. Where do I find this stash file.bin?

Thanks for the help...


Pie

[Robert Phillips]

Ed C wrote:

>Try emptying the recycling bin after you delete the files from your HDD.
>--
>Ed Chatlos
>
>
Thanks for that. Any serious suggestions, or are you just this group's
resident wise-ass? ;)


Rob

[Rabid_Roach]

"Robert Phillips" > wrote in message
...
>
> Chris Jackson (MVP) wrote:
>
> >If you have files in the queue to burn, you should just be able to browse
to
> >the CD-R drive and find "Delete temporary files" in the task pane.
> >
> >
> Yes, that was the first thing I checked. I did that, and the memory is
> still gone.
>
> >There are two places where extra stuff ends up:
> >
> >1. Temporary files are copied to c:\documents and
settings\<username>\local
> >settings\application data\microsoft\cd burning
> >Delete this using the task pane.
> >
> >
> Did that, too. No effect.
>
> >2. During the burn process, ANOTHER file is created - an image file that
the
> >CD is burned from. If it's a data CD, it will be burning stash file.bin.
If
> >it's a music cd, it will be stashimapi.bin. This can be found in the root
of
> >the drive you are burning from.
> >
> >
> I'm a little unclear - what do you mean "the root of the drive"? My
> burning drive is D, for instance. Where do I find this stash file.bin?
>
D:\stash file.bin

The "root" of a drive refers to the drive itself, for example c:\ would be
the root of C,
while c:\windows would not.



> Thanks for the help...
>
>
> Pie
>

[Unknown]

Sounded like a logical suggestion to me. Things put in the recycle bin take
up drive space. Why the wise ass comment?
"Robert Phillips" > wrote in message
...
>
> Ed C wrote:
>
> >Try emptying the recycling bin after you delete the files from your HDD.
> >--
> >Ed Chatlos
> >
> >
> Thanks for that. Any serious suggestions, or are you just this group's
> resident wise-ass? ;)
>
>
> Rob
>
>

[Robert Phillips]

Unknown wrote:

>Sounded like a logical suggestion to me. Things put in the recycle bin take
>up drive space. Why the wise ass comment?
>
Because I specifically said in my post that yes, I have emptied the
recycle bin.

(Besides the fact that I think one can assume from reading my message
that emptying the recycle bin is a concept I'm familiar with and don't
need to be told about It's true that he needn't assume that about me.
But when I said specifically that I have emptied the recycle bin, I
think he should have assumed that I have emptied it, and that I know how
to empty it, and that I know it can be emptied, and that I know that it
needs to be emptied.)


Pie