Startup programs run twice

[Kolin Tregaskes]

Hello,

I have Outlook Reminders, Wallmaster Pro and PopTray in my Startup menu and
they twice on starting Windows.

I thought it might be done to the shortcuts appearing in All Users Start
Menu and my Start Menu, but they only appear in one.

Any ideas why this happens? It only seems to affect these.

Kol
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It is a mistake to look too far ahead. Only one link in the chain of destiny
can be handled at a time. - Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill

[Wesley Vogel]

Kolin;
Try this:
Start | Run | Type: msconfig | OK | Startup tab

Do they appear there as well?

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Kolin Tregaskes > hunted and pecked:
> Hello,
>
> I have Outlook Reminders, Wallmaster Pro and PopTray in my Startup menu and
> they twice on starting Windows.
>
> I thought it might be done to the shortcuts appearing in All Users Start
> Menu and my Start Menu, but they only appear in one.
>
> Any ideas why this happens? It only seems to affect these.
>
> Kol
> ---------
>
> It is a mistake to look too far ahead. Only one link in the chain of destiny
> can be handled at a time. - Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill

[Alex Nichol]

Wesley Vogel wrote:

>Kolin;
>Try this:
>Start | Run | Type: msconfig | OK | Startup tab
>
>Do they appear there as well?

To clarify - they will appear once as Location '[common] Startup'. Do
they appear twice over, maybe as HKCU or HKLM (registry entries)?


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Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)

[Wesley Vogel]

Alex;
Thank you for pointing out the error of my ways. :o)
I will go forth and sin no more. Until the next time. :o)

Start references to Outlook Reminders, Wallmaster Pro and PopTray are appearing
in a second location. That's the only thing that makes sense to me. Unless
his machine stutters. Kolin said there were shortcuts in his Startup folder,
but not All Users Startup folder.

I would run startman.exe, StartupList.exe, HijackThis.exe or
StartupTracker3.exe to see where all the start references to these programs
are. Quicker than searching through the Registry, even using F3.

With Windows XP Home, there are 13 places that programs can start from.
There are eight in the Registry. Two in Start Menus. Two in Win.ini
(Backward compatibility with 16-bit foreground programs on Windows 95 only.
Old hardware and Trojans may load from here also.) And as a Scheduled Task set
to run at startup.
======================
I have zonealarm.exe in:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run
ZoneAlarm REG_SZ C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\zonealarm.exe
/startup
As an experiment I checked the box; � Load ZoneAlarm at startup, in the ZA
Control Center.
This produced:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup\zonealarm.exe

I rebooted. ZA started once.
I removed the checkmark in ZA CC.
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I made a shortcut to %SystemRoot%\system32\notepad.exe. I dragged it into:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

I placed notepad.exe in:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run
Notepad REG_SZ C:\WINDOWS\system32\notepad.exe

I rebooted. Notepad started twice.
I removed those references.
=======
I made two shortcuts to %SystemRoot%\system32\notepad.exe. I dragged them both
into:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

I rebooted. Notepad started twice.
=======
I moved one copy of notepad.exe from:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
to:
C:\Documents and Settings\WESLEY P. VOGEL\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

I rebooted. Notepad started twice.
=======
I deleted the shortcuts to notepad.exe.
I then thought, what about something like OE (msimn.exe)?
I made two shortcuts to msimn.exe. I placed one each in:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
and:
C:\Documents and Settings\WESLEY P. VOGEL\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

I rebooted. OE started once.
Curious, I know that you can get two instances of msimn.exe showing in
the Task Manager. I've done it, do to impatience.
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I opine that it depends on the program and if more than one instance can be
started.

I do not have Outlook Reminders, Wallmaster Pro or PopTray; so I can't
experiment with them.

Unless Kolin's machine stutters, there are two start references to each of
those three programs.

Maybe this experiment didn't totally follow the Scientific Method, but I was
getting tired of screwing around with it. ;o)
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Wes

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Alex Nichol > hunted and pecked:
> Wesley Vogel wrote:
>
> > Kolin;
> > Try this:
> > Start | Run | Type: msconfig | OK | Startup tab
> >
> > Do they appear there as well?
>
> To clarify - they will appear once as Location '[common] Startup'. Do
> they appear twice over, maybe as HKCU or HKLM (registry entries)?
>
>
> --
> Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
> Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)

[Alex Nichol]

Wesley Vogel wrote:

>I opine that it depends on the program and if more than one instance can be
>started.
>
>I do not have Outlook Reminders, Wallmaster Pro or PopTray; so I can't
>experiment with them.
>
>Unless Kolin's machine stutters, there are two start references to each of
>those three programs.

Yes. Some things, like ZoneAlarm, check to see if they are already
running - more do not


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Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)

[Henry]

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:21:45 GMT, "Wesley Vogel" >
wrote:

>Kolin;
>Try this:
>Start | Run | Type: msconfig | OK | Startup tab
>
>Do they appear there as well?

I have this same problem. When I start the System Configuration Utility, I find
the entries repeated in Common Startup and Startup, even though they appear only
in the All Users folder of the Start Menu

I ran StartUP Cop (PC Mag) and saw both entries there. When I deleted one set,
and pressed Apply, they were both disabled!

Any ideas?

Henry

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[Henry]

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:21:45 GMT, "Wesley Vogel" >
wrote:

>Kolin;
>Try this:
>Start | Run | Type: msconfig | OK | Startup tab
>
>Do they appear there as well?

I have this same problem. When I start the System Configuration Utility, I find
the entries repeated in Common Startup and Startup, even though they appear only
in the All Users folder of the Start Menu

I ran StartUP Cop (PC Mag) and saw both entries there. When I deleted one set,
and pressed Apply, they were both disabled!

Any ideas?

Henry

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[Wesley Vogel]

Henry ;
With Windows XP Home, there are 13 places that programs can start from and
they are executed in the following order:

Before Logon
1)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunServicesOnce
2) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunServices

After Logon
3) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnce\Setup
4) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnce
5) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnceEx
6) WIN.INI [Windows] Load
7) WIN.INI [Windows] Run
8) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run
9) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Run
10) C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
11) C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
12) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\RunOnce
13) As a Scheduled Task set to run at startup.
=================

StartMan Startup Manager by PCForrest
http://www.pt.lu/comnet/desc/startman.html

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Wes

In ,
Henry > hunted and pecked:
> On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:21:45 GMT, "Wesley Vogel" >
> wrote:
>
> > Kolin;
> > Try this:
> > Start | Run | Type: msconfig | OK | Startup tab
> >
> > Do they appear there as well?
>
> I have this same problem. When I start the System Configuration Utility, I
> find the entries repeated in Common Startup and Startup, even though they
> appear only in the All Users folder of the Start Menu
>
> I ran StartUP Cop (PC Mag) and saw both entries there. When I deleted one
> set, and pressed Apply, they were both disabled!
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Henry
>
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[Wesley Vogel]

Henry;
Hint:
Download, install and run.>>
StartMan Startup Manager by PCForrest
http://www.pt.lu/comnet/desc/startman.html

[StartMan is an extended 'msconfig' Startup Manager, designed to take control
of all those pesky programs and background services that load and run at
logon - most of which you probably don't need. As well as providing the usual
trouble-shooting options to enable or disable startups, StartMan also permits
the removal of startups.
Duplicate Detection and Removal, a unique feature of StartMan, can be
configured to remove all duplicates automatically, with or without prompting.
Orphan Detection and Removal. As above, for orphaned startups.
Executable Detection and Removal. As above, for executables.
Includes a full range of sorting options to make it easier to locate a specific
startup - by name, by filename - even by command line parameter!]

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Wes

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Henry > hunted and pecked:
> On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 03:05:21 GMT, "Wesley Vogel" >
> wrote:
>
> > With Windows XP Home, there are 13 places that programs can start from and
> > they are executed in the following order:
> >
> > Before Logon
> > 1)
> >
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunServicesOnce
> > 2)
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunServices
> >
> > After Logon
> > 3)
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnce\Setup
> > 4) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnce
> > 5) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnceEx
> > 6) WIN.INI [Windows] Load 7) WIN.INI [Windows] Run
> > 8) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run
> > 9) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Run
> > 10) C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
> > 11) C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
> > 12) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\RunOnce
> > 13) As a Scheduled Task set to run at startup.
> > =================
>
> FWIW, I have XP Pro (I'm the only user and want all programs installed to run
> for every user) - if that matters.
>
> When I start up MSCONFIG, everything appears OK in the startup tab, but all
> three programs in the Startup folder show up in Common Startup, and then
> again in Startup.
>
> When I look in the Documents and Setting folder, and its subs for All Users,
> Default, Me, etc., there is no startup folder under Me, but there is under
> All Users.
>
> Given what MSCONFIG showed, I would have expected to find the same 3 entries
> in two different Startup folders.
>
> Henry
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[Henry]

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:51:48 GMT, "Wesley Vogel" >
wrote:

>Henry;
>Hint:
>Download, install and run.>>
>StartMan Startup Manager by PCForrest
>http://www.pt.lu/comnet/desc/startman.html
>
>[StartMan is an extended 'msconfig' Startup Manager, designed to take control
>of all those pesky programs and background services that load and run at
>logon - most of which you probably don't need. As well as providing the usual
>trouble-shooting options to enable or disable startups, StartMan also permits
>the removal of startups.
>Duplicate Detection and Removal, a unique feature of StartMan, can be
>configured to remove all duplicates automatically, with or without prompting.
>Orphan Detection and Removal. As above, for orphaned startups.
>Executable Detection and Removal. As above, for executables.
>Includes a full range of sorting options to make it easier to locate a specific
>startup - by name, by filename - even by command line parameter!]

Still no joy...

I ran this program you suggested, but when I removed the items in the startup
that were duplicated (one for all users, one for current user), both entries
disappeared! In fact, the same thing happened, regardless of how I did the
deletion - it seems to be double start or NO start!

BTW, the program didn't identify the double entry.

Any other ideas??

Henry

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[Wesley Vogel]

Henry;
What are the programs that double start?
i.e. CompuShow 32.exe
Post back with that info.
Did you do a search to find where they, or their shortcuts are living?
Did you look in the Registry?
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Wes

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Henry > hunted and pecked:
> On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:51:48 GMT, "Wesley Vogel" >
> wrote:
>
> > Henry;
> > Hint:
> > Download, install and run.>>
> > StartMan Startup Manager by PCForrest
> > http://www.pt.lu/comnet/desc/startman.html
> >
> > [StartMan is an extended 'msconfig' Startup Manager, designed to take
> > control of all those pesky programs and background services that load and
> > run at
> > logon - most of which you probably don't need. As well as providing the
> > usual trouble-shooting options to enable or disable startups, StartMan
> > also permits the removal of startups.
> > Duplicate Detection and Removal, a unique feature of StartMan, can be
> > configured to remove all duplicates automatically, with or without
> > prompting. Orphan Detection and Removal. As above, for orphaned startups.
> > Executable Detection and Removal. As above, for executables.
> > Includes a full range of sorting options to make it easier to locate a
> > specific startup - by name, by filename - even by command line parameter!]
>
> Still no joy...
>
> I ran this program you suggested, but when I removed the items in the startup
> that were duplicated (one for all users, one for current user), both entries
> disappeared! In fact, the same thing happened, regardless of how I did the
> deletion - it seems to be double start or NO start!
>
> BTW, the program didn't identify the double entry.
>
> Any other ideas??
>
> Henry
>
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[Henry]

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:58:05 GMT, "Wesley Vogel" >
wrote:

>Henry;
>What are the programs that double start?
>i.e. CompuShow 32.exe
>Post back with that info.
>Did you do a search to find where they, or their shortcuts are living?
>Did you look in the Registry?

One is OUTLOOK.EXE (Outlook 2003)... It happens for as few or as many...
everything that goes into Startup folder gets duplicated.

Henry

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[Wesley Vogel]

Henry;
What happens when you go into Outlook or right click the Outlook tray icon and
look for preferences or something similar and disable Outlook from starting
from there?

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Henry > hunted and pecked:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:58:05 GMT, "Wesley Vogel" >
> wrote:
>
> > Henry;
> > What are the programs that double start?
> > i.e. CompuShow 32.exe
> > Post back with that info.
> > Did you do a search to find where they, or their shortcuts are living?
> > Did you look in the Registry?
>
> One is OUTLOOK.EXE (Outlook 2003)... It happens for as few or as many...
> everything that goes into Startup folder gets duplicated.
>
> Henry
>
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[Henry]

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 02:34:03 GMT, "Wesley Vogel" >
wrote:

>Henry;
>What happens when you go into Outlook or right click the Outlook tray icon and
>look for preferences or something similar and disable Outlook from starting
>from there?

Clicking outlook icon in the systray has no startup option.
I copied a shortcut to it into the Startup folder.

Henry

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[Wesley Vogel]

Henry;
I have no earthly idea what's going on.
And that's a fact.

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Henry > hunted and pecked:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 02:34:03 GMT, "Wesley Vogel" >
> wrote:
>
> > Henry;
> > What happens when you go into Outlook or right click the Outlook tray icon
> > and look for preferences or something similar and disable Outlook from
> > starting from there?
>
> Clicking outlook icon in the systray has no startup option.
> I copied a shortcut to it into the Startup folder.
>
> Henry
>
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[Henry]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:30:39 GMT, "Wesley Vogel" >
wrote:

>Henry;
>I have no earthly idea what's going on.
>And that's a fact.

Found the answer on the Dell community forum:

It turns out that I must have caused my own problem by trying to move the
Startup folder from my profile to the All Users one.

What must have caused the problem was the deletion of the Startup folder from my
own account folder. That must have changed a registry key.

Anyway, I went into the registry to the key

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\User
Shell Folders\Start up

and changed the value from

%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

to

%USERPROFILE%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

Then I created a Startup folder in my profile, to replace the one I had deleted
- apparently you MUST have a Startup folder for all profiles.

I rebooted, and all is well!!

Thank you, Bill Gates, for your "HELP" :-(

Henry

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[Wesley Vogel]

Henry;
Glad you got it fixed. And that you posted back.
Keep having fun.
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Henry > hunted and pecked:
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:30:39 GMT, "Wesley Vogel" >
> wrote:
>
> > Henry;
> > I have no earthly idea what's going on.
> > And that's a fact.
>
> Found the answer on the Dell community forum:
>
> It turns out that I must have caused my own problem by trying to move the
> Startup folder from my profile to the All Users one.
>
> What must have caused the problem was the deletion of the Startup folder
> from my own account folder. That must have changed a registry key.
>
> Anyway, I went into the registry to the key
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\User
> Shell Folders\Start up
>
> and changed the value from
>
> %ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>
> to
>
> %USERPROFILE%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>
> Then I created a Startup folder in my profile, to replace the one I had
> deleted - apparently you MUST have a Startup folder for all profiles.
>
> I rebooted, and all is well!!
>
> Thank you, Bill Gates, for your "HELP" :-(
>
> Henry
>
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[Henry]

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 03:05:21 GMT, "Wesley Vogel" >
wrote:

>With Windows XP Home, there are 13 places that programs can start from and
>they are executed in the following order:
>
>Before Logon
>1)
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunServicesOnce
>2) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunServices
>
>After Logon
>3) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnce\Setup
>4) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnce
>5) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnceEx
>6) WIN.INI [Windows] Load
>7) WIN.INI [Windows] Run
>8) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run
>9) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Run
>10) C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>11) C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>12) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\RunOnce
>13) As a Scheduled Task set to run at startup.
>=================

FWIW, I have XP Pro (I'm the only user and want all programs installed to run
for every user) - if that matters.

When I start up MSCONFIG, everything appears OK in the startup tab, but all
three programs in the Startup folder show up in Common Startup, and then again
in Startup.

When I look in the Documents and Setting folder, and its subs for All Users,
Default, Me, etc., there is no startup folder under Me, but there is under All
Users.

Given what MSCONFIG showed, I would have expected to find the same 3 entries in
two different Startup folders.

Henry

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[Henry]

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 03:05:21 GMT, "Wesley Vogel" >
wrote:

>With Windows XP Home, there are 13 places that programs can start from and
>they are executed in the following order:
>
>Before Logon
>1)
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunServicesOnce
>2) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunServices
>
>After Logon
>3) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnce\Setup
>4) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnce
>5) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnceEx
>6) WIN.INI [Windows] Load
>7) WIN.INI [Windows] Run
>8) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run
>9) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Run
>10) C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>11) C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>12) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\RunOnce
>13) As a Scheduled Task set to run at startup.
>=================

FWIW, I have XP Pro (I'm the only user and want all programs installed to run
for every user) - if that matters.

When I start up MSCONFIG, everything appears OK in the startup tab, but all
three programs in the Startup folder show up in Common Startup, and then again
in Startup.

When I look in the Documents and Setting folder, and its subs for All Users,
Default, Me, etc., there is no startup folder under Me, but there is under All
Users.

Given what MSCONFIG showed, I would have expected to find the same 3 entries in
two different Startup folders.

Henry

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[Henry]

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 03:05:21 GMT, "Wesley Vogel" >
wrote:

>With Windows XP Home, there are 13 places that programs can start from and
>they are executed in the following order:
>
>Before Logon
>1)
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunServicesOnce
>2) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunServices
>
>After Logon
>3) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnce\Setup
>4) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnce
>5) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnceEx
>6) WIN.INI [Windows] Load
>7) WIN.INI [Windows] Run
>8) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run
>9) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Run
>10) C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>11) C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>12) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\RunOnce
>13) As a Scheduled Task set to run at startup.
>=================

FWIW, I have XP Pro (I'm the only user and want all programs installed to run
for every user) - if that matters.

When I start up MSCONFIG, everything appears OK in the startup tab, but all
three programs in the Startup folder show up in Common Startup, and then again
in Startup.

When I look in the Documents and Setting folder, and its subs for All Users,
Default, Me, etc., there is no startup folder under Me, but there is under All
Users.

Given what MSCONFIG showed, I would have expected to find the same 3 entries in
two different Startup folders.

Henry

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[Henry]

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 03:05:21 GMT, "Wesley Vogel" >
wrote:

>With Windows XP Home, there are 13 places that programs can start from and
>they are executed in the following order:
>
>Before Logon
>1)
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunServicesOnce
>2) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunServices
>
>After Logon
>3) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnce\Setup
>4) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnce
>5) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnceEx
>6) WIN.INI [Windows] Load
>7) WIN.INI [Windows] Run
>8) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run
>9) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Run
>10) C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>11) C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
>12) HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\RunOnce
>13) As a Scheduled Task set to run at startup.
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FWIW, I have XP Pro (I'm the only user and want all programs installed to run
for every user) - if that matters.

When I start up MSCONFIG, everything appears OK in the startup tab, but all
three programs in the Startup folder show up in Common Startup, and then again
in Startup.

When I look in the Documents and Setting folder, and its subs for All Users,
Default, Me, etc., there is no startup folder under Me, but there is under All
Users.

Given what MSCONFIG showed, I would have expected to find the same 3 entries in
two different Startup folders.

Henry

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