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Connie
December 5th 03, 12:17 AM
How do I fix a messed up display? Black space up right
side, a curved distortion and almost invisable task bar.

Walter Clayton
December 5th 03, 12:17 AM
That depends on your monitor. Basically there are two types of controls,
either via separate buttons, dials, etc or via an on screen display utility.
You need to check your monitor manual if you can't figure it out which you
have. Once you have that information though, simply slide the image around
and play with the other adjustments until you get things centered and
squared up again.
There is another possibility now that I'm thinking about it. If this has
just suddenly happened on it's own, then take a look at what's sitting in
the vicinity of the monitor that uses electricity, especially anything
motorized. The magnetic fields generated by some appliances can cause
distortion of the nature you state, but generally there's flickering
involved as well.

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://www.dts-l.org
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp


"Connie" > wrote in message
...
> How do I fix a messed up display? Black space up right
> side, a curved distortion and almost invisable task bar.

Unknown
December 5th 03, 12:17 AM
Xref: kermit microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics:103289

There is nothing that would create that much distortion you can put near
your display.
"Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
...
> That depends on your monitor. Basically there are two types of controls,
> either via separate buttons, dials, etc or via an on screen display
utility.
> You need to check your monitor manual if you can't figure it out which you
> have. Once you have that information though, simply slide the image
around
> and play with the other adjustments until you get things centered and
> squared up again.
> There is another possibility now that I'm thinking about it. If this has
> just suddenly happened on it's own, then take a look at what's sitting in
> the vicinity of the monitor that uses electricity, especially anything
> motorized. The magnetic fields generated by some appliances can cause
> distortion of the nature you state, but generally there's flickering
> involved as well.
>
> --
> Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> http://www.dts-l.org
> http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
>
>
> "Connie" > wrote in message
> ...
> > How do I fix a messed up display? Black space up right
> > side, a curved distortion and almost invisable task bar.
>
>

Walter Clayton
December 5th 03, 12:17 AM
Care to bet? ;-)

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://www.dts-l.org
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp


"Unknown" > wrote in message
.com...
> There is nothing that would create that much distortion you can put near
> your display.
> "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > That depends on your monitor. Basically there are two types of controls,
> > either via separate buttons, dials, etc or via an on screen display
> utility.
> > You need to check your monitor manual if you can't figure it out which
you
> > have. Once you have that information though, simply slide the image
> around
> > and play with the other adjustments until you get things centered and
> > squared up again.
> > There is another possibility now that I'm thinking about it. If this has
> > just suddenly happened on it's own, then take a look at what's sitting
in
> > the vicinity of the monitor that uses electricity, especially anything
> > motorized. The magnetic fields generated by some appliances can cause
> > distortion of the nature you state, but generally there's flickering
> > involved as well.
> >
> > --
> > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> > http://www.dts-l.org
> > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> >
> >
> > "Connie" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > How do I fix a messed up display? Black space up right
> > > side, a curved distortion and almost invisable task bar.
> >
> >
>
>

Unknown
December 5th 03, 12:18 AM
Sure as long as it is a common item. I.E. No magnetron, atom smasher etc.
Common everyday item. Some monitors even have speakers mounted on either
side and they have alnico magnets which are far stronger than say a fan
motor.Certainly a degausser would distort but that is not in everyones home.
So you name it..
"Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
...
> Care to bet? ;-)
>
> --
> Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> http://www.dts-l.org
> http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
>
>
> "Unknown" > wrote in message
> .com...
> > There is nothing that would create that much distortion you can put near
> > your display.
> > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > That depends on your monitor. Basically there are two types of
controls,
> > > either via separate buttons, dials, etc or via an on screen display
> > utility.
> > > You need to check your monitor manual if you can't figure it out which
> you
> > > have. Once you have that information though, simply slide the image
> > around
> > > and play with the other adjustments until you get things centered and
> > > squared up again.
> > > There is another possibility now that I'm thinking about it. If this
has
> > > just suddenly happened on it's own, then take a look at what's sitting
> in
> > > the vicinity of the monitor that uses electricity, especially anything
> > > motorized. The magnetic fields generated by some appliances can cause
> > > distortion of the nature you state, but generally there's flickering
> > > involved as well.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > >
> > >
> > > "Connie" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > How do I fix a messed up display? Black space up right
> > > > side, a curved distortion and almost invisable task bar.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Walter Clayton
December 5th 03, 12:18 AM
Interesting. You stated that it was impossible for *anything* to influence a
CRT in such a way as to cause image problems. And now you acknowledge that
there are some instances where it is possible and now you're hedging. ;-)

As for a degausser, simply activate the one on your monitor. Regardless, any
kind of AC operated motor in the vicinity of a monitor *could* cause these
issues, but that would also entail screen flickering. To actually achieve
something resembling the stated condition you'd need a static magnetic
field. A DC inverter *could* be the case. Or simply attaching a large magnet
to the side of the monitor. As for speakers, have you actually looked at the
size of the magnet on the ones that can attach to the side of a monitor?

But as I stated originally, most instances of external mag influence will
have some additional symptoms. It's unlikely that in this specific instance,
it's an external influence, but as far as we know OP has recently relocated
next to an MRI unit. Or they decided to sit the monitor on top of a 1000W
sub-woofer.

It boils down to the fact that it's probably an adjustment rather than
external influence, but never rule out external influence unless you
actually see the environment first hand.

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://www.dts-l.org
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp


"Unknown" > wrote in message
.com...
> Sure as long as it is a common item. I.E. No magnetron, atom smasher etc.
> Common everyday item. Some monitors even have speakers mounted on either
> side and they have alnico magnets which are far stronger than say a fan
> motor.Certainly a degausser would distort but that is not in everyones
home.
> So you name it..
> "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Care to bet? ;-)
> >
> > --
> > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> > http://www.dts-l.org
> > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> >
> >
> > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > .com...
> > > There is nothing that would create that much distortion you can put
near
> > > your display.
> > > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > That depends on your monitor. Basically there are two types of
> controls,
> > > > either via separate buttons, dials, etc or via an on screen display
> > > utility.
> > > > You need to check your monitor manual if you can't figure it out
which
> > you
> > > > have. Once you have that information though, simply slide the image
> > > around
> > > > and play with the other adjustments until you get things centered
and
> > > > squared up again.
> > > > There is another possibility now that I'm thinking about it. If this
> has
> > > > just suddenly happened on it's own, then take a look at what's
sitting
> > in
> > > > the vicinity of the monitor that uses electricity, especially
anything
> > > > motorized. The magnetic fields generated by some appliances can
cause
> > > > distortion of the nature you state, but generally there's flickering
> > > > involved as well.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
advanced.
> > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Connie" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > How do I fix a messed up display? Black space up right
> > > > > side, a curved distortion and almost invisable task bar.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Unknown
December 5th 03, 12:18 AM
I was stating COMMON SENSE (caps for emphasis only) Be realistic. Do you know anyone who would put a DC inverter next to a PC monitor? Also, I can think of no device that would create a back space on one side of a monitor as the OP stated.
"Walter Clayton" > wrote in message ...
> Interesting. You stated that it was impossible for *anything* to influence a
> CRT in such a way as to cause image problems. And now you acknowledge that
> there are some instances where it is possible and now you're hedging. ;-)
>
> As for a degausser, simply activate the one on your monitor. Regardless, any
> kind of AC operated motor in the vicinity of a monitor *could* cause these
> issues, but that would also entail screen flickering. To actually achieve
> something resembling the stated condition you'd need a static magnetic
> field. A DC inverter *could* be the case. Or simply attaching a large magnet
> to the side of the monitor. As for speakers, have you actually looked at the
> size of the magnet on the ones that can attach to the side of a monitor?
>
> But as I stated originally, most instances of external mag influence will
> have some additional symptoms. It's unlikely that in this specific instance,
> it's an external influence, but as far as we know OP has recently relocated
> next to an MRI unit. Or they decided to sit the monitor on top of a 1000W
> sub-woofer.
>
> It boils down to the fact that it's probably an adjustment rather than
> external influence, but never rule out external influence unless you
> actually see the environment first hand.
>
> --
> Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> http://www.dts-l.org
> http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
>
>
> "Unknown" > wrote in message
> .com...
> > Sure as long as it is a common item. I.E. No magnetron, atom smasher etc.
> > Common everyday item. Some monitors even have speakers mounted on either
> > side and they have alnico magnets which are far stronger than say a fan
> > motor.Certainly a degausser would distort but that is not in everyones
> home.
> > So you name it..
> > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Care to bet? ;-)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > >
> > >
> > > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > > .com...
> > > > There is nothing that would create that much distortion you can put
> near
> > > > your display.
> > > > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > That depends on your monitor. Basically there are two types of
> > controls,
> > > > > either via separate buttons, dials, etc or via an on screen display
> > > > utility.
> > > > > You need to check your monitor manual if you can't figure it out
> which
> > > you
> > > > > have. Once you have that information though, simply slide the image
> > > > around
> > > > > and play with the other adjustments until you get things centered
> and
> > > > > squared up again.
> > > > > There is another possibility now that I'm thinking about it. If this
> > has
> > > > > just suddenly happened on it's own, then take a look at what's
> sitting
> > > in
> > > > > the vicinity of the monitor that uses electricity, especially
> anything
> > > > > motorized. The magnetic fields generated by some appliances can
> cause
> > > > > distortion of the nature you state, but generally there's flickering
> > > > > involved as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
> advanced.
> > > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Connie" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > How do I fix a messed up display? Black space up right
> > > > > > side, a curved distortion and almost invisable task bar.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Walter Clayton
December 5th 03, 12:18 AM
I *am* being realistic. Remember you stated that it was impossible for any
external cause of the symptoms. I merely asked about the situation with a
statement that it's possible. I made you *think* and you've subsequently
admitted that a large enough static magnetic field next to a CRT can cause
the stated issues. Now you're stating that it's impossible. The situation is
easier to see with older monitors (can we say "assume") than with newer due
to better sheilding. But reality is that an external influence can't be
ruled out until the OP states otherwise. Or to put it another way...

Can you state unequivocally, beyond a doubt and with absolute certainty,
without asking the OP, that the OP definitely doesn't live next or work for
to junk yard nor that the machine isn't sitting next to an MRI nor have they
attached a simple magent to the CRT? Can you guarentee the answer without
asking the OP?

To put it another way, I have a 10 year old monitor that I can not use a
secondary to my main, 2 year old monitor unless I seperate them by several
feet. Care to guess why?

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://www.dts-l.org
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp


"Unknown" > wrote in message
.com...
I was stating COMMON SENSE (caps for emphasis only) Be realistic. Do you
know anyone who would put a DC inverter next to a PC monitor? Also, I can
think of no device that would create a back space on one side of a monitor
as the OP stated.
"Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
...
> Interesting. You stated that it was impossible for *anything* to influence
a
> CRT in such a way as to cause image problems. And now you acknowledge that
> there are some instances where it is possible and now you're hedging. ;-)

>
> As for a degausser, simply activate the one on your monitor. Regardless,
any
> kind of AC operated motor in the vicinity of a monitor *could* cause these
> issues, but that would also entail screen flickering. To actually achieve
> something resembling the stated condition you'd need a static magnetic
> field. A DC inverter *could* be the case. Or simply attaching a large
magnet
> to the side of the monitor. As for speakers, have you actually looked at
the
> size of the magnet on the ones that can attach to the side of a monitor?
>
> But as I stated originally, most instances of external mag influence will
> have some additional symptoms. It's unlikely that in this specific
instance,
> it's an external influence, but as far as we know OP has recently
relocated
> next to an MRI unit. Or they decided to sit the monitor on top of a 1000W
> sub-woofer.
>
> It boils down to the fact that it's probably an adjustment rather than
> external influence, but never rule out external influence unless you
> actually see the environment first hand.
>
> --
> Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> http://www.dts-l.org
> http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
>
>
> "Unknown" > wrote in message
> .com...
> > Sure as long as it is a common item. I.E. No magnetron, atom smasher
etc.
> > Common everyday item. Some monitors even have speakers mounted on either
> > side and they have alnico magnets which are far stronger than say a fan
> > motor.Certainly a degausser would distort but that is not in everyones
> home.
> > So you name it..
> > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Care to bet? ;-)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > >
> > >
> > > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > > .com...
> > > > There is nothing that would create that much distortion you can put
> near
> > > > your display.
> > > > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > That depends on your monitor. Basically there are two types of
> > controls,
> > > > > either via separate buttons, dials, etc or via an on screen
display
> > > > utility.
> > > > > You need to check your monitor manual if you can't figure it out
> which
> > > you
> > > > > have. Once you have that information though, simply slide the
image
> > > > around
> > > > > and play with the other adjustments until you get things centered
> and
> > > > > squared up again.
> > > > > There is another possibility now that I'm thinking about it. If
this
> > has
> > > > > just suddenly happened on it's own, then take a look at what's
> sitting
> > > in
> > > > > the vicinity of the monitor that uses electricity, especially
> anything
> > > > > motorized. The magnetic fields generated by some appliances can
> cause
> > > > > distortion of the nature you state, but generally there's
flickering
> > > > > involved as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
> advanced.
> > > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Connie" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > How do I fix a messed up display? Black space up right
> > > > > > side, a curved distortion and almost invisable task bar.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Unknown
December 5th 03, 12:20 AM
Yes I can. Because nothing you put on the side of a monitor can create a
black side.
"Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
...
> I *am* being realistic. Remember you stated that it was impossible for any
> external cause of the symptoms. I merely asked about the situation with a
> statement that it's possible. I made you *think* and you've subsequently
> admitted that a large enough static magnetic field next to a CRT can cause
> the stated issues. Now you're stating that it's impossible. The situation
is
> easier to see with older monitors (can we say "assume") than with newer
due
> to better sheilding. But reality is that an external influence can't be
> ruled out until the OP states otherwise. Or to put it another way...
>
> Can you state unequivocally, beyond a doubt and with absolute certainty,
> without asking the OP, that the OP definitely doesn't live next or work
for
> to junk yard nor that the machine isn't sitting next to an MRI nor have
they
> attached a simple magent to the CRT? Can you guarentee the answer without
> asking the OP?
>
> To put it another way, I have a 10 year old monitor that I can not use a
> secondary to my main, 2 year old monitor unless I seperate them by several
> feet. Care to guess why?
>
> --
> Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> http://www.dts-l.org
> http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
>
>
> "Unknown" > wrote in message
> .com...
> I was stating COMMON SENSE (caps for emphasis only) Be realistic. Do you
> know anyone who would put a DC inverter next to a PC monitor? Also, I can
> think of no device that would create a back space on one side of a monitor
> as the OP stated.
> "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Interesting. You stated that it was impossible for *anything* to
influence
> a
> > CRT in such a way as to cause image problems. And now you acknowledge
that
> > there are some instances where it is possible and now you're hedging.
;-)
>
> >
> > As for a degausser, simply activate the one on your monitor. Regardless,
> any
> > kind of AC operated motor in the vicinity of a monitor *could* cause
these
> > issues, but that would also entail screen flickering. To actually
achieve
> > something resembling the stated condition you'd need a static magnetic
> > field. A DC inverter *could* be the case. Or simply attaching a large
> magnet
> > to the side of the monitor. As for speakers, have you actually looked at
> the
> > size of the magnet on the ones that can attach to the side of a monitor?
> >
> > But as I stated originally, most instances of external mag influence
will
> > have some additional symptoms. It's unlikely that in this specific
> instance,
> > it's an external influence, but as far as we know OP has recently
> relocated
> > next to an MRI unit. Or they decided to sit the monitor on top of a
1000W
> > sub-woofer.
> >
> > It boils down to the fact that it's probably an adjustment rather than
> > external influence, but never rule out external influence unless you
> > actually see the environment first hand.
> >
> > --
> > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> > http://www.dts-l.org
> > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> >
> >
> > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > .com...
> > > Sure as long as it is a common item. I.E. No magnetron, atom smasher
> etc.
> > > Common everyday item. Some monitors even have speakers mounted on
either
> > > side and they have alnico magnets which are far stronger than say a
fan
> > > motor.Certainly a degausser would distort but that is not in everyones
> > home.
> > > So you name it..
> > > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Care to bet? ;-)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
advanced.
> > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > > > .com...
> > > > > There is nothing that would create that much distortion you can
put
> > near
> > > > > your display.
> > > > > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > That depends on your monitor. Basically there are two types of
> > > controls,
> > > > > > either via separate buttons, dials, etc or via an on screen
> display
> > > > > utility.
> > > > > > You need to check your monitor manual if you can't figure it out
> > which
> > > > you
> > > > > > have. Once you have that information though, simply slide the
> image
> > > > > around
> > > > > > and play with the other adjustments until you get things
centered
> > and
> > > > > > squared up again.
> > > > > > There is another possibility now that I'm thinking about it. If
> this
> > > has
> > > > > > just suddenly happened on it's own, then take a look at what's
> > sitting
> > > > in
> > > > > > the vicinity of the monitor that uses electricity, especially
> > anything
> > > > > > motorized. The magnetic fields generated by some appliances can
> > cause
> > > > > > distortion of the nature you state, but generally there's
> flickering
> > > > > > involved as well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
> > advanced.
> > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > > >
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Connie" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > How do I fix a messed up display? Black space up right
> > > > > > > side, a curved distortion and almost invisable task bar.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Unknown
December 5th 03, 12:20 AM
As to your guessing game. Are you exagerating ---several feet?
"Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
...
> I *am* being realistic. Remember you stated that it was impossible for any
> external cause of the symptoms. I merely asked about the situation with a
> statement that it's possible. I made you *think* and you've subsequently
> admitted that a large enough static magnetic field next to a CRT can cause
> the stated issues. Now you're stating that it's impossible. The situation
is
> easier to see with older monitors (can we say "assume") than with newer
due
> to better sheilding. But reality is that an external influence can't be
> ruled out until the OP states otherwise. Or to put it another way...
>
> Can you state unequivocally, beyond a doubt and with absolute certainty,
> without asking the OP, that the OP definitely doesn't live next or work
for
> to junk yard nor that the machine isn't sitting next to an MRI nor have
they
> attached a simple magent to the CRT? Can you guarentee the answer without
> asking the OP?
>
> To put it another way, I have a 10 year old monitor that I can not use a
> secondary to my main, 2 year old monitor unless I seperate them by several
> feet. Care to guess why?
>
> --
> Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> http://www.dts-l.org
> http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
>
>
> "Unknown" > wrote in message
> .com...
> I was stating COMMON SENSE (caps for emphasis only) Be realistic. Do you
> know anyone who would put a DC inverter next to a PC monitor? Also, I can
> think of no device that would create a back space on one side of a monitor
> as the OP stated.
> "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Interesting. You stated that it was impossible for *anything* to
influence
> a
> > CRT in such a way as to cause image problems. And now you acknowledge
that
> > there are some instances where it is possible and now you're hedging.
;-)
>
> >
> > As for a degausser, simply activate the one on your monitor. Regardless,
> any
> > kind of AC operated motor in the vicinity of a monitor *could* cause
these
> > issues, but that would also entail screen flickering. To actually
achieve
> > something resembling the stated condition you'd need a static magnetic
> > field. A DC inverter *could* be the case. Or simply attaching a large
> magnet
> > to the side of the monitor. As for speakers, have you actually looked at
> the
> > size of the magnet on the ones that can attach to the side of a monitor?
> >
> > But as I stated originally, most instances of external mag influence
will
> > have some additional symptoms. It's unlikely that in this specific
> instance,
> > it's an external influence, but as far as we know OP has recently
> relocated
> > next to an MRI unit. Or they decided to sit the monitor on top of a
1000W
> > sub-woofer.
> >
> > It boils down to the fact that it's probably an adjustment rather than
> > external influence, but never rule out external influence unless you
> > actually see the environment first hand.
> >
> > --
> > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> > http://www.dts-l.org
> > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> >
> >
> > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > .com...
> > > Sure as long as it is a common item. I.E. No magnetron, atom smasher
> etc.
> > > Common everyday item. Some monitors even have speakers mounted on
either
> > > side and they have alnico magnets which are far stronger than say a
fan
> > > motor.Certainly a degausser would distort but that is not in everyones
> > home.
> > > So you name it..
> > > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Care to bet? ;-)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
advanced.
> > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > > > .com...
> > > > > There is nothing that would create that much distortion you can
put
> > near
> > > > > your display.
> > > > > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > That depends on your monitor. Basically there are two types of
> > > controls,
> > > > > > either via separate buttons, dials, etc or via an on screen
> display
> > > > > utility.
> > > > > > You need to check your monitor manual if you can't figure it out
> > which
> > > > you
> > > > > > have. Once you have that information though, simply slide the
> image
> > > > > around
> > > > > > and play with the other adjustments until you get things
centered
> > and
> > > > > > squared up again.
> > > > > > There is another possibility now that I'm thinking about it. If
> this
> > > has
> > > > > > just suddenly happened on it's own, then take a look at what's
> > sitting
> > > > in
> > > > > > the vicinity of the monitor that uses electricity, especially
> > anything
> > > > > > motorized. The magnetic fields generated by some appliances can
> > cause
> > > > > > distortion of the nature you state, but generally there's
> flickering
> > > > > > involved as well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
> > advanced.
> > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > > >
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Connie" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > How do I fix a messed up display? Black space up right
> > > > > > > side, a curved distortion and almost invisable task bar.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Walter Clayton
December 5th 03, 12:20 AM
No, I'm not exaggerating.

There's a lot going on in the EMF world. And yes, to pull in your other
message, a static mag field of sufficient strength can distort the tracks of
the electron beams to force the image sufficiently off "center" to shift the
entire image.

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://www.dts-l.org
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp


"Unknown" > wrote in message
.com...
> As to your guessing game. Are you exagerating ---several feet?
> "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I *am* being realistic. Remember you stated that it was impossible for
any
> > external cause of the symptoms. I merely asked about the situation with
a
> > statement that it's possible. I made you *think* and you've subsequently
> > admitted that a large enough static magnetic field next to a CRT can
cause
> > the stated issues. Now you're stating that it's impossible. The
situation
> is
> > easier to see with older monitors (can we say "assume") than with newer
> due
> > to better sheilding. But reality is that an external influence can't be
> > ruled out until the OP states otherwise. Or to put it another way...
> >
> > Can you state unequivocally, beyond a doubt and with absolute certainty,
> > without asking the OP, that the OP definitely doesn't live next or work
> for
> > to junk yard nor that the machine isn't sitting next to an MRI nor have
> they
> > attached a simple magent to the CRT? Can you guarentee the answer
without
> > asking the OP?
> >
> > To put it another way, I have a 10 year old monitor that I can not use a
> > secondary to my main, 2 year old monitor unless I seperate them by
several
> > feet. Care to guess why?
> >
> > --
> > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> > http://www.dts-l.org
> > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> >
> >
> > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > .com...
> > I was stating COMMON SENSE (caps for emphasis only) Be realistic. Do you
> > know anyone who would put a DC inverter next to a PC monitor? Also, I
can
> > think of no device that would create a back space on one side of a
monitor
> > as the OP stated.
> > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Interesting. You stated that it was impossible for *anything* to
> influence
> > a
> > > CRT in such a way as to cause image problems. And now you acknowledge
> that
> > > there are some instances where it is possible and now you're hedging.
> ;-)
> >
> > >
> > > As for a degausser, simply activate the one on your monitor.
Regardless,
> > any
> > > kind of AC operated motor in the vicinity of a monitor *could* cause
> these
> > > issues, but that would also entail screen flickering. To actually
> achieve
> > > something resembling the stated condition you'd need a static magnetic
> > > field. A DC inverter *could* be the case. Or simply attaching a large
> > magnet
> > > to the side of the monitor. As for speakers, have you actually looked
at
> > the
> > > size of the magnet on the ones that can attach to the side of a
monitor?
> > >
> > > But as I stated originally, most instances of external mag influence
> will
> > > have some additional symptoms. It's unlikely that in this specific
> > instance,
> > > it's an external influence, but as far as we know OP has recently
> > relocated
> > > next to an MRI unit. Or they decided to sit the monitor on top of a
> 1000W
> > > sub-woofer.
> > >
> > > It boils down to the fact that it's probably an adjustment rather than
> > > external influence, but never rule out external influence unless you
> > > actually see the environment first hand.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > >
> > >
> > > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > > .com...
> > > > Sure as long as it is a common item. I.E. No magnetron, atom smasher
> > etc.
> > > > Common everyday item. Some monitors even have speakers mounted on
> either
> > > > side and they have alnico magnets which are far stronger than say a
> fan
> > > > motor.Certainly a degausser would distort but that is not in
everyones
> > > home.
> > > > So you name it..
> > > > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Care to bet? ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
> advanced.
> > > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > > > > .com...
> > > > > > There is nothing that would create that much distortion you can
> put
> > > near
> > > > > > your display.
> > > > > > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > That depends on your monitor. Basically there are two types of
> > > > controls,
> > > > > > > either via separate buttons, dials, etc or via an on screen
> > display
> > > > > > utility.
> > > > > > > You need to check your monitor manual if you can't figure it
out
> > > which
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > have. Once you have that information though, simply slide the
> > image
> > > > > > around
> > > > > > > and play with the other adjustments until you get things
> centered
> > > and
> > > > > > > squared up again.
> > > > > > > There is another possibility now that I'm thinking about it.
If
> > this
> > > > has
> > > > > > > just suddenly happened on it's own, then take a look at what's
> > > sitting
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > the vicinity of the monitor that uses electricity, especially
> > > anything
> > > > > > > motorized. The magnetic fields generated by some appliances
can
> > > cause
> > > > > > > distortion of the nature you state, but generally there's
> > flickering
> > > > > > > involved as well.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
> > > advanced.
> > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > > > >
> http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Connie" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > How do I fix a messed up display? Black space up right
> > > > > > > > side, a curved distortion and almost invisable task bar.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Unknown
December 5th 03, 12:20 AM
And remain straight? Hogwash! Try to do that.
"Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
...
> No, I'm not exaggerating.
>
> There's a lot going on in the EMF world. And yes, to pull in your other
> message, a static mag field of sufficient strength can distort the tracks
of
> the electron beams to force the image sufficiently off "center" to shift
the
> entire image.
>
> --
> Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> http://www.dts-l.org
> http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
>
>
> "Unknown" > wrote in message
> .com...
> > As to your guessing game. Are you exagerating ---several feet?
> > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I *am* being realistic. Remember you stated that it was impossible for
> any
> > > external cause of the symptoms. I merely asked about the situation
with
> a
> > > statement that it's possible. I made you *think* and you've
subsequently
> > > admitted that a large enough static magnetic field next to a CRT can
> cause
> > > the stated issues. Now you're stating that it's impossible. The
> situation
> > is
> > > easier to see with older monitors (can we say "assume") than with
newer
> > due
> > > to better sheilding. But reality is that an external influence can't
be
> > > ruled out until the OP states otherwise. Or to put it another way...
> > >
> > > Can you state unequivocally, beyond a doubt and with absolute
certainty,
> > > without asking the OP, that the OP definitely doesn't live next or
work
> > for
> > > to junk yard nor that the machine isn't sitting next to an MRI nor
have
> > they
> > > attached a simple magent to the CRT? Can you guarentee the answer
> without
> > > asking the OP?
> > >
> > > To put it another way, I have a 10 year old monitor that I can not use
a
> > > secondary to my main, 2 year old monitor unless I seperate them by
> several
> > > feet. Care to guess why?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > >
> > >
> > > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > > .com...
> > > I was stating COMMON SENSE (caps for emphasis only) Be realistic. Do
you
> > > know anyone who would put a DC inverter next to a PC monitor? Also, I
> can
> > > think of no device that would create a back space on one side of a
> monitor
> > > as the OP stated.
> > > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Interesting. You stated that it was impossible for *anything* to
> > influence
> > > a
> > > > CRT in such a way as to cause image problems. And now you
acknowledge
> > that
> > > > there are some instances where it is possible and now you're
hedging.
> > ;-)
> > >
> > > >
> > > > As for a degausser, simply activate the one on your monitor.
> Regardless,
> > > any
> > > > kind of AC operated motor in the vicinity of a monitor *could* cause
> > these
> > > > issues, but that would also entail screen flickering. To actually
> > achieve
> > > > something resembling the stated condition you'd need a static
magnetic
> > > > field. A DC inverter *could* be the case. Or simply attaching a
large
> > > magnet
> > > > to the side of the monitor. As for speakers, have you actually
looked
> at
> > > the
> > > > size of the magnet on the ones that can attach to the side of a
> monitor?
> > > >
> > > > But as I stated originally, most instances of external mag influence
> > will
> > > > have some additional symptoms. It's unlikely that in this specific
> > > instance,
> > > > it's an external influence, but as far as we know OP has recently
> > > relocated
> > > > next to an MRI unit. Or they decided to sit the monitor on top of a
> > 1000W
> > > > sub-woofer.
> > > >
> > > > It boils down to the fact that it's probably an adjustment rather
than
> > > > external influence, but never rule out external influence unless you
> > > > actually see the environment first hand.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > > Associate Expert
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
advanced.
> > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > > > .com...
> > > > > Sure as long as it is a common item. I.E. No magnetron, atom
smasher
> > > etc.
> > > > > Common everyday item. Some monitors even have speakers mounted on
> > either
> > > > > side and they have alnico magnets which are far stronger than say
a
> > fan
> > > > > motor.Certainly a degausser would distort but that is not in
> everyones
> > > > home.
> > > > > So you name it..
> > > > > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Care to bet? ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
> > advanced.
> > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > > >
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > > > > > .com...
> > > > > > > There is nothing that would create that much distortion you
can
> > put
> > > > near
> > > > > > > your display.
> > > > > > > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > That depends on your monitor. Basically there are two types
of
> > > > > controls,
> > > > > > > > either via separate buttons, dials, etc or via an on screen
> > > display
> > > > > > > utility.
> > > > > > > > You need to check your monitor manual if you can't figure it
> out
> > > > which
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > have. Once you have that information though, simply slide
the
> > > image
> > > > > > > around
> > > > > > > > and play with the other adjustments until you get things
> > centered
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > squared up again.
> > > > > > > > There is another possibility now that I'm thinking about it.
> If
> > > this
> > > > > has
> > > > > > > > just suddenly happened on it's own, then take a look at
what's
> > > > sitting
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > the vicinity of the monitor that uses electricity,
especially
> > > > anything
> > > > > > > > motorized. The magnetic fields generated by some appliances
> can
> > > > cause
> > > > > > > > distortion of the nature you state, but generally there's
> > > flickering
> > > > > > > > involved as well.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > > > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
> > > > advanced.
> > > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > > > > >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Connie" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > How do I fix a messed up display? Black space up right
> > > > > > > > > side, a curved distortion and almost invisable task bar.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

David Candy
December 5th 03, 12:20 AM
What I love is putting a screwdriver on the HT at the back of a tv tube =
and drawing a 6" arc earthing through me.

Or electrocuting oranges, apples, big caps (nice explosion). I did burn =
down the school science lab in 1974 at about 10pm at night - couldn't =
resist white phosphorus. The school felt it couldn't punish me because =
of my interest in chemistry. I got a weeks detention which I only served =
one day.

--=20
http://www.g2mil.com/Apr2003.htm
http://prorev.com/forbesrussia.htm
---------------------------------------------------------------
David Candy
http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros
---------------------------------------------------------------
"Walter Clayton" > wrote in message =
...
> She said it was bowed. ;-)
>=20
> But yes, straight line linear distortion is possible. And yes, I've =
done it
> before as well as other interesting things. Amazing what you can play =
with
> when your father is an electronics technician in the military.
>=20
> Remember how the beam is controlled on a CRT?
>=20
> --=20
> Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> http://www.dts-l.org
> http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
>=20
>=20
> "Unknown" > wrote in message
> .com...
> > And remain straight? Hogwash! Try to do that.
> > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > No, I'm not exaggerating.
> > >
> > > There's a lot going on in the EMF world. And yes, to pull in your =
other
> > > message, a static mag field of sufficient strength can distort the
> tracks
> > of
> > > the electron beams to force the image sufficiently off "center" to =
shift
> > the
> > > entire image.
> > >
> > > --=20
> > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > Associate Expert
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently =
advanced.
> > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > >
> > >
> > > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > > .com...
> > > > As to your guessing game. Are you exagerating ---several feet?
> > > > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > I *am* being realistic. Remember you stated that it was =
impossible
> for
> > > any
> > > > > external cause of the symptoms. I merely asked about the =
situation
> > with
> > > a
> > > > > statement that it's possible. I made you *think* and you've
> > subsequently
> > > > > admitted that a large enough static magnetic field next to a =
CRT can
> > > cause
> > > > > the stated issues. Now you're stating that it's impossible. =
The
> > > situation
> > > > is
> > > > > easier to see with older monitors (can we say "assume") than =
with
> > newer
> > > > due
> > > > > to better sheilding. But reality is that an external influence =
can't
> > be
> > > > > ruled out until the OP states otherwise. Or to put it another =
way...
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you state unequivocally, beyond a doubt and with absolute
> > certainty,
> > > > > without asking the OP, that the OP definitely doesn't live =
next or
> > work
> > > > for
> > > > > to junk yard nor that the machine isn't sitting next to an MRI =
nor
> > have
> > > > they
> > > > > attached a simple magent to the CRT? Can you guarentee the =
answer
> > > without
> > > > > asking the OP?
> > > > >
> > > > > To put it another way, I have a 10 year old monitor that I can =
not
> use
> > a
> > > > > secondary to my main, 2 year old monitor unless I seperate =
them by
> > > several
> > > > > feet. Care to guess why?
> > > > >
> > > > > --=20
> > > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
> advanced.
> > > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > > =
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > > > > .com...
> > > > > I was stating COMMON SENSE (caps for emphasis only) Be =
realistic. Do
> > you
> > > > > know anyone who would put a DC inverter next to a PC monitor? =
Also,
> I
> > > can
> > > > > think of no device that would create a back space on one side =
of a
> > > monitor
> > > > > as the OP stated.
> > > > > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Interesting. You stated that it was impossible for =
*anything* to
> > > > influence
> > > > > a
> > > > > > CRT in such a way as to cause image problems. And now you
> > acknowledge
> > > > that
> > > > > > there are some instances where it is possible and now you're
> > hedging.
> > > > ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for a degausser, simply activate the one on your monitor.
> > > Regardless,
> > > > > any
> > > > > > kind of AC operated motor in the vicinity of a monitor =
*could*
> cause
> > > > these
> > > > > > issues, but that would also entail screen flickering. To =
actually
> > > > achieve
> > > > > > something resembling the stated condition you'd need a =
static
> > magnetic
> > > > > > field. A DC inverter *could* be the case. Or simply =
attaching a
> > large
> > > > > magnet
> > > > > > to the side of the monitor. As for speakers, have you =
actually
> > looked
> > > at
> > > > > the
> > > > > > size of the magnet on the ones that can attach to the side =
of a
> > > monitor?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But as I stated originally, most instances of external mag
> influence
> > > > will
> > > > > > have some additional symptoms. It's unlikely that in this =
specific
> > > > > instance,
> > > > > > it's an external influence, but as far as we know OP has =
recently
> > > > > relocated
> > > > > > next to an MRI unit. Or they decided to sit the monitor on =
top of
> a
> > > > 1000W
> > > > > > sub-woofer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It boils down to the fact that it's probably an adjustment =
rather
> > than
> > > > > > external influence, but never rule out external influence =
unless
> you
> > > > > > actually see the environment first hand.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --=20
> > > > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
> > advanced.
> > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > > > =
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > > > > > .com...
> > > > > > > Sure as long as it is a common item. I.E. No magnetron, =
atom
> > smasher
> > > > > etc.
> > > > > > > Common everyday item. Some monitors even have speakers =
mounted
> on
> > > > either
> > > > > > > side and they have alnico magnets which are far stronger =
than
> say
> > a
> > > > fan
> > > > > > > motor.Certainly a degausser would distort but that is not =
in
> > > everyones
> > > > > > home.
> > > > > > > So you name it..
> > > > > > > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in =
message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > Care to bet? ;-)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --=20
> > > > > > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > > > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is =
insufficiently
> > > > advanced.
> > > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > > > > >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Unknown" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > =
.com...
> > > > > > > > > There is nothing that would create that much =
distortion you
> > can
> > > > put
> > > > > > near
> > > > > > > > > your display.
> > > > > > > > > "Walter Clayton" > wrote in =
message
> > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > That depends on your monitor. Basically there are =
two
> types
> > of
> > > > > > > controls,
> > > > > > > > > > either via separate buttons, dials, etc or via an on
> screen
> > > > > display
> > > > > > > > > utility.
> > > > > > > > > > You need to check your monitor manual if you can't =
figure
> it
> > > out
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > have. Once you have that information though, simply =
slide
> > the
> > > > > image
> > > > > > > > > around
> > > > > > > > > > and play with the other adjustments until you get =
things
> > > > centered
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > squared up again.
> > > > > > > > > > There is another possibility now that I'm thinking =
about
> it.
> > > If
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > just suddenly happened on it's own, then take a look =
at
> > what's
> > > > > > sitting
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > the vicinity of the monitor that uses electricity,
> > especially
> > > > > > anything
> > > > > > > > > > motorized. The magnetic fields generated by some
> appliances
> > > can
> > > > > > cause
> > > > > > > > > > distortion of the nature you state, but generally =
there's
> > > > > flickering
> > > > > > > > > > involved as well.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --=20
> > > > > > > > > > Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> > > > > > > > > > Associate Expert
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > > > > > > > > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is
> insufficiently
> > > > > > advanced.
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.dts-l.org
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > =
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "Connie" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > How do I fix a messed up display? Black space up =
right
> > > > > > > > > > > side, a curved distortion and almost invisable =
task bar.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Walter Clayton
December 5th 03, 12:22 AM
LOL! You're a bit more adventurous than I. :-)
My father would have had my hide for those kinds of shenanigans. It was
interesting enough just bleeding off the anode prior to dismounting the
physical tube or pulling the related electronics. I'll willing work on a hot
120V line than play games with the anode on a CRT.

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://www.dts-l.org
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp


"David Candy" > wrote in message
...
What I love is putting a screwdriver on the HT at the back of a tv tube and
drawing a 6" arc earthing through me.

Or electrocuting oranges, apples, big caps (nice explosion). I did burn down
the school science lab in 1974 at about 10pm at night - couldn't resist
white phosphorus. The school felt it couldn't punish me because of my
interest in chemistry. I got a weeks detention which I only served one day.

--
http://www.g2mil.com/Apr2003.htm
http://prorev.com/forbesrussia.htm
---------------------------------------------------------------
David Candy
http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros
---------------------------------------------------------------

David Candy
December 5th 03, 12:22 AM
120V - does it even kill you. In the telephone exchange when connecting =
disconnecting a line I climb a ladder, hold on to someone's pair for =
balance, clip or unclip a connector on their line. The problem came if =
someone decided to ring the phone whose connection I was holding on to =
for balance - I'd start jerking about, 4 mtr up in the air, off balance, =
screaming "answer your bloody phone". Telephones used 50VDC for normal =
and about 100VAC for the ring.

Our power is 240V - I have rarely been tempted to work on a live circuit =
and only with mats, gloves, insulated tools, and a first aider standing =
by.

--=20
http://www.g2mil.com/Apr2003.htm
http://prorev.com/forbesrussia.htm
---------------------------------------------------------------
David Candy
http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros
---------------------------------------------------------------
"Walter Clayton" > wrote in message =
...
> LOL! You're a bit more adventurous than I. :-)
> My father would have had my hide for those kinds of shenanigans. It =
was
> interesting enough just bleeding off the anode prior to dismounting =
the
> physical tube or pulling the related electronics. I'll willing work on =
a hot
> 120V line than play games with the anode on a CRT.
>=20
> --=20
> Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> http://www.dts-l.org
> http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp
>=20
>=20
> "David Candy" > wrote in message
> ...
> What I love is putting a screwdriver on the HT at the back of a tv =
tube and
> drawing a 6" arc earthing through me.
>=20
> Or electrocuting oranges, apples, big caps (nice explosion). I did =
burn down
> the school science lab in 1974 at about 10pm at night - couldn't =
resist
> white phosphorus. The school felt it couldn't punish me because of my
> interest in chemistry. I got a weeks detention which I only served one =
day.
>=20
> --=20
> http://www.g2mil.com/Apr2003.htm
> http://prorev.com/forbesrussia.htm
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> David Candy
> http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
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>=20
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