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Duncan Williamson
January 9th 04, 10:10 PM
I am thoroughly ashamed of myself. I have been computing
for over 20 years now and I have been defeated by a
simple, crossover cable style Peer to Peer network based
on Windows XP Home.
I have a laptop as the Host and a desktop as the guest. I
used to be able to share files, printer, internet
connection ... I went away on business and took the laptop
away with me. The desktop functioned normally in
standalone mode whilst I was away.
When I reunited the two darlings, they worked well on day
1 simply by plugging in the network cable. Overnight, the
two computers initiated divorce proceedings and they
haven't spoken since!
I don't know what to do now as I have a broadband
connection that I want to share with the desktop otherwise
the Mrs will NEED her own connection ...
I've searched, hummed and gnashed and cannot fathom what
should be so simple.
ANYTHING that will reunite my star crossed lovers will
earn my deepest regard!
Steve Winograd [MVP]
January 9th 04, 10:10 PM
In article >, "Duncan
Williamson" > wrote:
>I am thoroughly ashamed of myself. I have been computing
>for over 20 years now and I have been defeated by a
>simple, crossover cable style Peer to Peer network based
>on Windows XP Home.
>
>I have a laptop as the Host and a desktop as the guest. I
>used to be able to share files, printer, internet
>connection ... I went away on business and took the laptop
>away with me. The desktop functioned normally in
>standalone mode whilst I was away.
>
>When I reunited the two darlings, they worked well on day
>1 simply by plugging in the network cable. Overnight, the
>two computers initiated divorce proceedings and they
>haven't spoken since!
>
>I don't know what to do now as I have a broadband
>connection that I want to share with the desktop otherwise
>the Mrs will NEED her own connection ...
>
>I've searched, hummed and gnashed and cannot fathom what
>should be so simple.
>
>ANYTHING that will reunite my star crossed lovers will
>earn my deepest regard!
These tests should help you find the problem:
1. On the laptop, right click the local area network connection and
click Status | Support | Details. It should show:
IP Address: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: none
DNS Server = none
2. On the desktop, right click the local area network connection and
click Status | Support | Details. It should show:
IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server = 192.168.0.1
3. If #1 and #2 are right, open a command prompt window on the desktop
and enter these lines. Each one should get four replies:
ping 192.168.0.1
ping <laptop's computer name>
ping 216.239.39.100
ping www.google.com
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
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Hans-Georg Michna
January 9th 04, 10:10 PM
"Duncan Williamson" > wrote:
>I am thoroughly ashamed of myself. I have been computing
>for over 20 years now and I have been defeated by a
>simple, crossover cable style Peer to Peer network based
>on Windows XP Home.
>
>I have a laptop as the Host and a desktop as the guest. I
>used to be able to share files, printer, internet
>connection ... I went away on business and took the laptop
>away with me. The desktop functioned normally in
>standalone mode whilst I was away.
>
>When I reunited the two darlings, they worked well on day
>1 simply by plugging in the network cable. Overnight, the
>two computers initiated divorce proceedings and they
>haven't spoken since!
>
>I don't know what to do now as I have a broadband
>connection that I want to share with the desktop otherwise
>the Mrs will NEED her own connection ...
Duncan,
don't be ashamed, things like this happen to all of us. If
anybody needs to be ashamed of unreliable computing, it is not
the end user.
Please have a look at http://www.michna.com/kb/WxNetwork.htm.
Hans-Georg
--
No mail, please.
Duncan Williamson
January 9th 04, 10:10 PM
Thanks Steve. I tried the pinging and succeeded with three
out of four.
> ping <laptop's computer name> FAILED
What next?
Duncan
>-----Original Message-----
>In article <095f01c36c73$daa6a8e0
>, "Duncan
>Williamson" > wrote:
>>I am thoroughly ashamed of myself. I have been computing
>>for over 20 years now and I have been defeated by a
>>simple, crossover cable style Peer to Peer network based
>>on Windows XP Home.
>>
>>I have a laptop as the Host and a desktop as the guest.
I
>>used to be able to share files, printer, internet
>>connection ... I went away on business and took the
laptop
>>away with me. The desktop functioned normally in
>>standalone mode whilst I was away.
>>
>>When I reunited the two darlings, they worked well on
day
>>1 simply by plugging in the network cable. Overnight,
the
>>two computers initiated divorce proceedings and they
>>haven't spoken since!
>>
>>I don't know what to do now as I have a broadband
>>connection that I want to share with the desktop
otherwise
>>the Mrs will NEED her own connection ...
>>
>>I've searched, hummed and gnashed and cannot fathom what
>>should be so simple.
>>
>>ANYTHING that will reunite my star crossed lovers will
>>earn my deepest regard!
>
>These tests should help you find the problem:
>
>1. On the laptop, right click the local area network
connection and
>click Status | Support | Details. It should show:
>
> IP Address: 192.168.0.1
> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway: none
> DNS Server = none
>
>2. On the desktop, right click the local area network
connection and
>click Status | Support | Details. It should show:
>
> IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
> DNS Server = 192.168.0.1
>
>3. If #1 and #2 are right, open a command prompt window
on the desktop
>and enter these lines. Each one should get four replies:
>
> ping 192.168.0.1
> ping <laptop's computer name>
> ping 216.239.39.100
> ping www.google.com
>--
>Best Wishes,
>Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
>Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news
group
>for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer
questions
>addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
>Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>.
>
Duncan Williamson
January 9th 04, 10:10 PM
Thanks Hans-Georg,
I've had a quick look at what seems to be very useful.
I'll take a more careful look once I've finished my day
job and will report back on my success!
Duncan
>-----Original Message-----
>"Duncan Williamson" > wrote:
>
>>I am thoroughly ashamed of myself. I have been computing
>>for over 20 years now and I have been defeated by a
>>simple, crossover cable style Peer to Peer network based
>>on Windows XP Home.
>>
>>I have a laptop as the Host and a desktop as the guest.
I
>>used to be able to share files, printer, internet
>>connection ... I went away on business and took the
laptop
>>away with me. The desktop functioned normally in
>>standalone mode whilst I was away.
>>
>>When I reunited the two darlings, they worked well on
day
>>1 simply by plugging in the network cable. Overnight,
the
>>two computers initiated divorce proceedings and they
>>haven't spoken since!
>>
>>I don't know what to do now as I have a broadband
>>connection that I want to share with the desktop
otherwise
>>the Mrs will NEED her own connection ...
>
>Duncan,
>
>don't be ashamed, things like this happen to all of us. If
>anybody needs to be ashamed of unreliable computing, it
is not
>the end user.
>
>Please have a look at
http://www.michna.com/kb/WxNetwork.htm.
>
>Hans-Georg
>
>--
>No mail, please.
>.
>
Richie
January 9th 04, 10:10 PM
As I understand this, you have the internet connection on the laptop and are
sharing it with the desktop. Correct?
Btw, is this an ethernet cross-over setup or serial/parallel?
You could try hard setting the DNS server addresses on the desktop to what
the laptop is using.
With the internet connected on the laptop, at a command prompt, type:
ipconfig /all
Take the DNS server addresses returned and enter those in the desktop TCP/IP
properties.
This may at least get your internet connection sharing working.
Make sure you have an account on both computers with the same username and
password. Log in to both with that account.
Rich
Steve Winograd [MVP]
January 9th 04, 10:11 PM
In article >, "Duncan
Williamson" > wrote:
>Thanks Steve. I tried the pinging and succeeded with three
>out of four.
>
>> ping <laptop's computer name> FAILED
>
>What next?
>
>Duncan
Make sure that NetBIOS Over TCP/IP is enabled on both computers:
1. Open the Network Connections folder.
2. Right click the local area network connection and click Properties.
3. Double click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP).
4. Click Advanced.
5. Click WINS.
6. Click the Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button.
Run "ipconfig /all" on both computers and look at the "Node Type" at
the beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
really say "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a true
peer-to-peer network for NetBIOS name resolution.
If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:
HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters
and delete these values if they're present:
NodeType
DhcpNodeType
Reboot, then try network access again.
If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".
For details, see the section on "NodeType" in this Microsoft Knowledge
Base article:
TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314053
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
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