Network logon in WinXP

[dances_with_ferrets]

I'm new to XP and am used to Win9x where you can add 'Client for Microsoft
Networks' in the network properties. This allows you to have to logon to a
server when you start Windows. I see no such animal in XP.
How can I have people logon to a server when XP boots?
I did a google search but didn't see much for an answer.
TIA folks,

[dances_with_ferrets]

"dances_with_ferrets" > wrote in message
...
> I'm new to XP and am used to Win9x where you can add 'Client for Microsoft
> Networks' in the network properties. This allows you to have to logon to
a
> server when you start Windows. I see no such animal in XP.
> How can I have people logon to a server when XP boots?
> I did a google search but didn't see much for an answer.
> TIA folks,
>
Well, I did find this.
Are you freakin kidding me??

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=uRoyJQTHCHA.1772@
tkmsftngp09&rnum=15&prev=/groups?q=%22network+logon%22%22xp%22&start=10&hl=e
n&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=uRoyJQTHCHA.1772%40tkmsftngp09&rnum=15

[Unknown]

Click on your connection then networking tab----Start-connect to-show all
connections-right click your connection-properties-networking tab..
"dances_with_ferrets" > wrote in message
...
> I'm new to XP and am used to Win9x where you can add 'Client for Microsoft
> Networks' in the network properties. This allows you to have to logon to
a
> server when you start Windows. I see no such animal in XP.
> How can I have people logon to a server when XP boots?
> I did a google search but didn't see much for an answer.
> TIA folks,
>
>
>

[DE]

dances_with_ferrets wrote:
> I'm new to XP and am used to Win9x where you can add 'Client for Microsoft
> Networks' in the network properties. This allows you to have to logon to a
> server when you start Windows. I see no such animal in XP.
> How can I have people logon to a server when XP boots?
> I did a google search but didn't see much for an answer.
> TIA folks,
>
>
>

I guess the first sad question would be: you didn't do something like
buy XP Home for a BUSINESS, did you? Because ... XP Home can't log into
a domain (and I'm assuming you mean PDC when you say "server".)

If that's not the scenario, then open the Network etc. folder (you can
even do it from "My Network" or whatever) and under Properties, Advanced
(on the menu) you will find Network Identification. There you can
change from a workgroup to a domain login.

-- DE

[dances_with_ferrets]

"DE" > wrote in message
...
> dances_with_ferrets wrote:
> > I'm new to XP and am used to Win9x where you can add 'Client for
Microsoft
> > Networks' in the network properties. This allows you to have to logon
to a
> > server when you start Windows. I see no such animal in XP.
> > How can I have people logon to a server when XP boots?
> > I did a google search but didn't see much for an answer.
> > TIA folks,
> >
> >
> >
>
> I guess the first sad question would be: you didn't do something like
> buy XP Home for a BUSINESS, did you? Because ... XP Home can't log into
> a domain (and I'm assuming you mean PDC when you say "server".)
>
> If that's not the scenario, then open the Network etc. folder (you can
> even do it from "My Network" or whatever) and under Properties, Advanced
> (on the menu) you will find Network Identification. There you can
> change from a workgroup to a domain login.
>

No, it's XP Pro on a peer tp peer. I'll do what you both suggested and let
you know how it works.
Thanks.

[DE]

dances_with_ferrets wrote:
> "DE" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>dances_with_ferrets wrote:
>>
>>>I'm new to XP and am used to Win9x where you can add 'Client for
>>
> Microsoft
>
>>>Networks' in the network properties. This allows you to have to logon
>>
> to a
>
>>>server when you start Windows. I see no such animal in XP.
>>>How can I have people logon to a server when XP boots?
>>>I did a google search but didn't see much for an answer.
>>>TIA folks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I guess the first sad question would be: you didn't do something like
>>buy XP Home for a BUSINESS, did you? Because ... XP Home can't log into
>>a domain (and I'm assuming you mean PDC when you say "server".)
>>
>>If that's not the scenario, then open the Network etc. folder (you can
>>even do it from "My Network" or whatever) and under Properties, Advanced
>>(on the menu) you will find Network Identification. There you can
>>change from a workgroup to a domain login.
>>
>
>
> No, it's XP Pro on a peer tp peer. I'll do what you both suggested and let
> you know how it works.
> Thanks.
>
>

You are contradicting yourself, which might be the problem. A
peer-to-peer network means you are not using a domain controller as the
"server" but usually, rather, one of the workstations as a server, with
no actual NT4/W2K/W2K3 Server installed. In such a case, you are not
logging onto a domain but rather a workgroup, and usually pick on of the
workstation systems to act like a "server" -- but all are set (in
network ID) for a common workgroup name.

So if you still have problems, pls post back & clarify.

-- DE

[dances_with_ferrets]

"DE" > wrote in message
...
> dances_with_ferrets wrote:
> > "DE" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>dances_with_ferrets wrote:
> >>
> >>>I'm new to XP and am used to Win9x where you can add 'Client for
> >>
> > Microsoft
> >
> >>>Networks' in the network properties. This allows you to have to logon
> >>
> > to a
> >
> >>>server when you start Windows. I see no such animal in XP.
> >>>How can I have people logon to a server when XP boots?
> >>>I did a google search but didn't see much for an answer.
> >>>TIA folks,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>I guess the first sad question would be: you didn't do something like
> >>buy XP Home for a BUSINESS, did you? Because ... XP Home can't log into
> >>a domain (and I'm assuming you mean PDC when you say "server".)
> >>
> >>If that's not the scenario, then open the Network etc. folder (you can
> >>even do it from "My Network" or whatever) and under Properties, Advanced
> >>(on the menu) you will find Network Identification. There you can
> >>change from a workgroup to a domain login.
> >>
> >
> >
> > No, it's XP Pro on a peer tp peer. I'll do what you both suggested and
let
> > you know how it works.
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
>
> You are contradicting yourself, which might be the problem. A
> peer-to-peer network means you are not using a domain controller as the
> "server" but usually, rather, one of the workstations as a server, with
> no actual NT4/W2K/W2K3 Server installed. In such a case, you are not
> logging onto a domain but rather a workgroup, and usually pick on of the
> workstation systems to act like a "server" -- but all are set (in
> network ID) for a common workgroup name.
>
> So if you still have problems, pls post back & clarify.
>
> -- DE

Ok, sorry about that. It is a peer to peer network consisting of Win95,
Win98, XP and NT4.
The NT4 machine acts as an application and backup server. Everything was
fine until I installed the two
XP machines. One of the served applications requires a drive (on the NT4
machine) to be mapped as a drive letter on the other machines.
I have it set up so users have to logon to the network to gain access to the
mapped drive. This worked well
on the Win9x machines. Doesn't work so well on the XP machines.
I am wondering if the initial startup of the XP machine, where you have to
select a user account and enter a password takes care of this.
I also read that XP has a flaw where a mapped drive does not automatically
reconnect at boot.

I also cannot get a printer that is installed via paralle port on the XP
machine to be shared by the other Win9x machines?
You may ask yourself; If I don't know how to do this stuff on XP, then why
am I in charge of a 30 computer network at work.
I have asked myself that very same question. I'm just a guy that knew just
enough about PCs to get volunterred as network admin
when the other guy quit.
Happy happy, joy joy.
Help??
Please??

[DE]

dances_with_ferrets wrote:
> "DE" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>dances_with_ferrets wrote:
>>
>>>"DE" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>dances_with_ferrets wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'm new to XP and am used to Win9x where you can add 'Client for
>>>>
>>>Microsoft
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Networks' in the network properties. This allows you to have to logon
>>>>
>>>to a
>>>
>>>
>>>>>server when you start Windows. I see no such animal in XP.
>>>>>How can I have people logon to a server when XP boots?
>>>>>I did a google search but didn't see much for an answer.
>>>>>TIA folks,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I guess the first sad question would be: you didn't do something like
>>>>buy XP Home for a BUSINESS, did you? Because ... XP Home can't log into
>>>>a domain (and I'm assuming you mean PDC when you say "server".)
>>>>
>>>>If that's not the scenario, then open the Network etc. folder (you can
>>>>even do it from "My Network" or whatever) and under Properties, Advanced
>>>>(on the menu) you will find Network Identification. There you can
>>>>change from a workgroup to a domain login.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>No, it's XP Pro on a peer tp peer. I'll do what you both suggested and
>>
> let
>
>>>you know how it works.
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>You are contradicting yourself, which might be the problem. A
>>peer-to-peer network means you are not using a domain controller as the
>>"server" but usually, rather, one of the workstations as a server, with
>>no actual NT4/W2K/W2K3 Server installed. In such a case, you are not
>>logging onto a domain but rather a workgroup, and usually pick on of the
>>workstation systems to act like a "server" -- but all are set (in
>>network ID) for a common workgroup name.
>>
>>So if you still have problems, pls post back & clarify.
>>
>>-- DE
>
>
> Ok, sorry about that. It is a peer to peer network consisting of Win95,
> Win98, XP and NT4.
> The NT4 machine acts as an application and backup server. Everything was
> fine until I installed the two
> XP machines. One of the served applications requires a drive (on the NT4
> machine) to be mapped as a drive letter on the other machines.
> I have it set up so users have to logon to the network to gain access to the
> mapped drive. This worked well
> on the Win9x machines. Doesn't work so well on the XP machines.
> I am wondering if the initial startup of the XP machine, where you have to
> select a user account and enter a password takes care of this.
> I also read that XP has a flaw where a mapped drive does not automatically
> reconnect at boot.
>
> I also cannot get a printer that is installed via paralle port on the XP
> machine to be shared by the other Win9x machines?
> You may ask yourself; If I don't know how to do this stuff on XP, then why
> am I in charge of a 30 computer network at work.
> I have asked myself that very same question. I'm just a guy that knew just
> enough about PCs to get volunterred as network admin
> when the other guy quit.
> Happy happy, joy joy.
> Help??
> Please??
>
>
>

XP not reconnecting the drives at startup may not be a "flaw" but rather
that the drives are set to offline until accessed (supposedly a plus.)

If the NT4 is *workstation* and not *server*, it's only going to accept
10 connections at any given time. You could just be bumping up against
that.

Make sure the workgroup name is the same for all systems, anyway; the
way the ID works is the same even if the location for setting it moves
to a different place in each and every version of windows (growl!)

The NT4 system -- whether server, or a workstation on a workgroup -- has
to have the account names used on the XP machines.


So step back: first thing is, determine if the NT4 "server" is NT4
Server or NT4 Workstation. Second, ensure that the same protocols are
loaded on all systems. When using TCP/IP, make sure the same subnet is
being used. Make sure the login names used on the XP machines have been
set up as accounts on the NT4 machine.

Then post back the answer to the first question (server or w/s?) and any
related info, and we should be able to help you through this.


Now, just an aside: a business that asks someone without adequate
background to do ALL their computer support -- without the option for
outside help when needed -- is not only asking for trouble, not only
trying to take advantage of you, but is also defeating itself by trying
to cut corners in an area where it is not really effective to cut corners.

This opinion mine, of course, and from the bias of a computer consultant
(but one that saves law firms a LOT of money and time and grief.)

-- DE