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Josh Collins
December 6th 03, 10:19 AM
Ok. Now look at my sig. Does that make me qualified?

Josh Collins - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]

"Will Denny" > wrote in message
...
Look at Harry's sig.

Will

"Josh Collins" > wrote in message
...
> I set up my dual boot with 98 and XP by using Doug's site. I needed no
> third-party product. Did you ever reformat using the link you sent to this
> troll? I doubt it.
>
> You accused me of inferring alot from his post, then you do the same. Only
> in the end, you completely change your mind and tell him to buy a system
> without an OS instead of your original suggestion to reformat. This
implies
> that you are not comfortable with your original suggestion. Hmmmm......
> Also, unless he buys from an auction website, it will be incredibly
> difficult for him to purchase a computer without an OS.
>
> My system came with Fat32 installed with XP, but I bought mine from a
little
> one-man shop in a small town. So I agree with you now about most systems
> coming with NTFS. Since we are both assuming he has a computer that came
> with NTFS format, then he should not attempt the dual boot. I too change
my
> mind.
>
> BTW, there is nothing wrong with multiple suggestions to a question. But
it
> should be the OP and other readers who decide which suggestion is best
> because they will have different preferences and knowledge about setting
up
> their computers.
>
> In the end, the absolute best suggestion was to customize XP to look and
run
> exactly like 98 by using themes and adjusting settings. The only problem
was
> that that poster did not tell the OP how to do it.
>
> "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Josh you think that setting up a dual boot is easier than reformatting
and
> > installing Windows 98???? I don't get it. If you don't think that the
> person
> > can format a drive then how could they possibly set up a dual boot?
> > Obviously you didn't read the info at Doug's site. While instructions
are
> > clear they are not simple enough, nor are they intended, for a novice to
> > follow. Firstly it is highly likely that a new system that ships with XP
> > installed will be formatted as NTFS and not FAT. Doug's info tells us
that
> > the OP would have to acquire a third party repartitioning tool. Doug
> > suggests BootIt NG, which is an excellent tool, but not the type of tool
> > that someone who doesn't know how to format a drive would be able to
use.
> > Secondly the OP doesn't ask for info on dual booting. He simply wants to
> > ditch XP and use an OS that he is more comfortable with. That's his
right.
> > As for lost support perhaps he doesn't care about that. There are many
> > people still running Windows 95. Finally The link I sent him is fine
> because
> > he would read it BEFORE he uninstalled XP and reverted back to 98 not
> > afterward. If he has already reverted back to 98 then he would not need
> the
> > link I sent him. What I read was quite simple. He wanted info on
removing
> > XP. I gave him a link to instructions that met his request. You infer a
> lot
> > from his post.
> >
> > In hindsight what should be suggested is that he look into purchasing a
> > system without an OS. This will generally be less expensive and then he
> can
> > either purchase Win98 or transfer a current license that he already has
> over
> > to his new system.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
> > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
> > www.webtree.ca/newlife/
> >
> >
> > "Josh Collins" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Yes, with Doug's instructions the complete novice could set up a dual
> > boot.
> > > You misread my post.
> > >
> > > I sent him a link that would give him excellent instructions on dual
> > booting
> > > and I also told him to research more about reformatting and installing
> 98.
> > > The whole point of suggesting the dual boot was to see if he could
> > > adequately set up 98. If not, then he would still have one decent OS
to
> > work
> > > with.
> > >
> > > I stand by what I said.
> > >
> > > BTW, the link you sent him is not gonna help him if he runs into
driver
> > > problems and if he wants to set up his Internet connection and email
> again
> > > all in 98. If he already has all that set up, why run the risk that he
> > can't
> > > get it all working again because he did a reformat? He should go with
> the
> > > dual boot first, especially because one day soon he might have to stay
> > with
> > > XP no matter what.
> > >
> > > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > With all due respect Josh if you don't think he knows enough to
> reformat
> > > do
> > > > you really think he could setup a dual boot system?
> > > > 8^)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Josh Collins" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > I am not being mean, but because you even had to ask this
question,
> I
> > > > would
> > > > > say you better not attempt to do your own reformatting. Your
> question
> > > > > suggests you don't really know enough to install Windows 98
> yourself.
> > If
> > > > you
> > > > > are not a troll, you better do some serious research before you
> > attempt
> > > to
> > > > > reformat. In fact, I suggest you try the dual boot instructions on
> > Doug
> > > > > Knox's website first. That way, if you can't get 98 to work right,
> you
> > > > will
> > > > > still be able to use XP. Here is the link:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_9x.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > "tigerhawk" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > We need a new computer but I hate XP, but of course all
> > > > > > computers come preloaded with it. Is it possible to
> > > > > > reformat the hard drive and load Windows 98 or ME - I have
> > > > > > heard you cannot do this but if you reformat the drive,
> > > > > > what is the problem??
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


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Josh Collins
December 6th 03, 10:19 AM
Actually, he asked what was the problem with reformatting? He did ask if it
was possible to put 98 back on the computer, but the main question, which
was not a Yes-or-No question, was the one I answered. Reread the orginal
post please.

I answered his question appropriately. You, however, should have only
answered "Yes."

"Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
...
> Josh the OP wanted to know how to remove XP and use Win98 or Me. He did
not
> ask how to make XP look like Win98 or how to setup a dual boot.
>
> --
>
> Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
> www.webtree.ca/newlife/
>
>
> "Josh Collins" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I set up my dual boot with 98 and XP by using Doug's site. I needed no
> > third-party product. Did you ever reformat using the link you sent to
this
> > troll? I doubt it.
> >
> > You accused me of inferring alot from his post, then you do the same.
Only
> > in the end, you completely change your mind and tell him to buy a system
> > without an OS instead of your original suggestion to reformat. This
> implies
> > that you are not comfortable with your original suggestion. Hmmmm......
> > Also, unless he buys from an auction website, it will be incredibly
> > difficult for him to purchase a computer without an OS.
> >
> > My system came with Fat32 installed with XP, but I bought mine from a
> little
> > one-man shop in a small town. So I agree with you now about most systems
> > coming with NTFS. Since we are both assuming he has a computer that came
> > with NTFS format, then he should not attempt the dual boot. I too change
> my
> > mind.
> >
> > BTW, there is nothing wrong with multiple suggestions to a question. But
> it
> > should be the OP and other readers who decide which suggestion is best
> > because they will have different preferences and knowledge about setting
> up
> > their computers.
> >
> > In the end, the absolute best suggestion was to customize XP to look and
> run
> > exactly like 98 by using themes and adjusting settings. The only problem
> was
> > that that poster did not tell the OP how to do it.
> >
> > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Josh you think that setting up a dual boot is easier than reformatting
> and
> > > installing Windows 98???? I don't get it. If you don't think that the
> > person
> > > can format a drive then how could they possibly set up a dual boot?
> > > Obviously you didn't read the info at Doug's site. While instructions
> are
> > > clear they are not simple enough, nor are they intended, for a novice
to
> > > follow. Firstly it is highly likely that a new system that ships with
XP
> > > installed will be formatted as NTFS and not FAT. Doug's info tells us
> that
> > > the OP would have to acquire a third party repartitioning tool. Doug
> > > suggests BootIt NG, which is an excellent tool, but not the type of
tool
> > > that someone who doesn't know how to format a drive would be able to
> use.
> > > Secondly the OP doesn't ask for info on dual booting. He simply wants
to
> > > ditch XP and use an OS that he is more comfortable with. That's his
> right.
> > > As for lost support perhaps he doesn't care about that. There are many
> > > people still running Windows 95. Finally The link I sent him is fine
> > because
> > > he would read it BEFORE he uninstalled XP and reverted back to 98 not
> > > afterward. If he has already reverted back to 98 then he would not
need
> > the
> > > link I sent him. What I read was quite simple. He wanted info on
> removing
> > > XP. I gave him a link to instructions that met his request. You infer
a
> > lot
> > > from his post.
> > >
> > > In hindsight what should be suggested is that he look into purchasing
a
> > > system without an OS. This will generally be less expensive and then
he
> > can
> > > either purchase Win98 or transfer a current license that he already
has
> > over
> > > to his new system.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
> > > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
> > > www.webtree.ca/newlife/
> > >
> > >
> > > "Josh Collins" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Yes, with Doug's instructions the complete novice could set up a
dual
> > > boot.
> > > > You misread my post.
> > > >
> > > > I sent him a link that would give him excellent instructions on dual
> > > booting
> > > > and I also told him to research more about reformatting and
installing
> > 98.
> > > > The whole point of suggesting the dual boot was to see if he could
> > > > adequately set up 98. If not, then he would still have one decent OS
> to
> > > work
> > > > with.
> > > >
> > > > I stand by what I said.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, the link you sent him is not gonna help him if he runs into
> driver
> > > > problems and if he wants to set up his Internet connection and email
> > again
> > > > all in 98. If he already has all that set up, why run the risk that
he
> > > can't
> > > > get it all working again because he did a reformat? He should go
with
> > the
> > > > dual boot first, especially because one day soon he might have to
stay
> > > with
> > > > XP no matter what.
> > > >
> > > > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > With all due respect Josh if you don't think he knows enough to
> > reformat
> > > > do
> > > > > you really think he could setup a dual boot system?
> > > > > 8^)
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > > > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Josh Collins" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > I am not being mean, but because you even had to ask this
> question,
> > I
> > > > > would
> > > > > > say you better not attempt to do your own reformatting. Your
> > question
> > > > > > suggests you don't really know enough to install Windows 98
> > yourself.
> > > If
> > > > > you
> > > > > > are not a troll, you better do some serious research before you
> > > attempt
> > > > to
> > > > > > reformat. In fact, I suggest you try the dual boot instructions
on
> > > Doug
> > > > > > Knox's website first. That way, if you can't get 98 to work
right,
> > you
> > > > > will
> > > > > > still be able to use XP. Here is the link:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_9x.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "tigerhawk" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > We need a new computer but I hate XP, but of course all
> > > > > > > computers come preloaded with it. Is it possible to
> > > > > > > reformat the hard drive and load Windows 98 or ME - I have
> > > > > > > heard you cannot do this but if you reformat the drive,
> > > > > > > what is the problem??
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Will Denny
December 6th 03, 10:19 AM
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Will

"Josh Collins" > wrote in message =
...
> Ok. Now look at my sig. Does that make me qualified?
>=20
> Josh Collins - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
>=20
> "Will Denny" > wrote in message
> ...
> Look at Harry's sig.
>=20
> Will
>=20
> "Josh Collins" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I set up my dual boot with 98 and XP by using Doug's site. I needed =
no
> > third-party product. Did you ever reformat using the link you sent =
to this
> > troll? I doubt it.
> >
> > You accused me of inferring alot from his post, then you do the =
same. Only
> > in the end, you completely change your mind and tell him to buy a =
system
> > without an OS instead of your original suggestion to reformat. This
> implies
> > that you are not comfortable with your original suggestion. =
Hmmmm......
> > Also, unless he buys from an auction website, it will be incredibly
> > difficult for him to purchase a computer without an OS.
> >
> > My system came with Fat32 installed with XP, but I bought mine from =
a
> little
> > one-man shop in a small town. So I agree with you now about most =
systems
> > coming with NTFS. Since we are both assuming he has a computer that =
came
> > with NTFS format, then he should not attempt the dual boot. I too =
change
> my
> > mind.
> >
> > BTW, there is nothing wrong with multiple suggestions to a question. =
But
> it
> > should be the OP and other readers who decide which suggestion is =
best
> > because they will have different preferences and knowledge about =
setting
> up
> > their computers.
> >
> > In the end, the absolute best suggestion was to customize XP to look =
and
> run
> > exactly like 98 by using themes and adjusting settings. The only =
problem
> was
> > that that poster did not tell the OP how to do it.
> >
> > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Josh you think that setting up a dual boot is easier than =
reformatting
> and
> > > installing Windows 98???? I don't get it. If you don't think that =
the
> > person
> > > can format a drive then how could they possibly set up a dual =
boot?
> > > Obviously you didn't read the info at Doug's site. While =
instructions
> are
> > > clear they are not simple enough, nor are they intended, for a =
novice to
> > > follow. Firstly it is highly likely that a new system that ships =
with XP
> > > installed will be formatted as NTFS and not FAT. Doug's info tells =
us
> that
> > > the OP would have to acquire a third party repartitioning tool. =
Doug
> > > suggests BootIt NG, which is an excellent tool, but not the type =
of tool
> > > that someone who doesn't know how to format a drive would be able =
to
> use.
> > > Secondly the OP doesn't ask for info on dual booting. He simply =
wants to
> > > ditch XP and use an OS that he is more comfortable with. That's =
his
> right.
> > > As for lost support perhaps he doesn't care about that. There are =
many
> > > people still running Windows 95. Finally The link I sent him is =
fine
> > because
> > > he would read it BEFORE he uninstalled XP and reverted back to 98 =
not
> > > afterward. If he has already reverted back to 98 then he would not =
need
> > the
> > > link I sent him. What I read was quite simple. He wanted info on
> removing
> > > XP. I gave him a link to instructions that met his request. You =
infer a
> > lot
> > > from his post.
> > >
> > > In hindsight what should be suggested is that he look into =
purchasing a
> > > system without an OS. This will generally be less expensive and =
then he
> > can
> > > either purchase Win98 or transfer a current license that he =
already has
> > over
> > > to his new system.
> > >
> > > --=20
> > >
> > > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
> > > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
> > > www.webtree.ca/newlife/
> > >
> > >
> > > "Josh Collins" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Yes, with Doug's instructions the complete novice could set up =
a dual
> > > boot.
> > > > You misread my post.
> > > >
> > > > I sent him a link that would give him excellent instructions on =
dual
> > > booting
> > > > and I also told him to research more about reformatting and =
installing
> > 98.
> > > > The whole point of suggesting the dual boot was to see if he =
could
> > > > adequately set up 98. If not, then he would still have one =
decent OS
> to
> > > work
> > > > with.
> > > >
> > > > I stand by what I said.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, the link you sent him is not gonna help him if he runs into
> driver
> > > > problems and if he wants to set up his Internet connection and =
email
> > again
> > > > all in 98. If he already has all that set up, why run the risk =
that he
> > > can't
> > > > get it all working again because he did a reformat? He should go =
with
> > the
> > > > dual boot first, especially because one day soon he might have =
to stay
> > > with
> > > > XP no matter what.
> > > >
> > > > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > With all due respect Josh if you don't think he knows enough =
to
> > reformat
> > > > do
> > > > > you really think he could setup a dual boot system?
> > > > > 8^)
> > > > >
> > > > > --=20
> > > > >
> > > > > Harry Ohrn - MS MVP [Shell/User]
> > > > > www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Josh Collins" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > I am not being mean, but because you even had to ask this
> question,
> > I
> > > > > would
> > > > > > say you better not attempt to do your own reformatting. Your
> > question
> > > > > > suggests you don't really know enough to install Windows 98
> > yourself.
> > > If
> > > > > you
> > > > > > are not a troll, you better do some serious research before =
you
> > > attempt
> > > > to
> > > > > > reformat. In fact, I suggest you try the dual boot =
instructions on
> > > Doug
> > > > > > Knox's website first. That way, if you can't get 98 to work =
right,
> > you
> > > > > will
> > > > > > still be able to use XP. Here is the link:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_9x.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "tigerhawk" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > We need a new computer but I hate XP, but of course all
> > > > > > > computers come preloaded with it. Is it possible to
> > > > > > > reformat the hard drive and load Windows 98 or ME - I have
> > > > > > > heard you cannot do this but if you reformat the drive,
> > > > > > > what is the problem??
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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