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Paul
December 6th 03, 12:30 PM
No kidding. I especially liked the paid for one loaf of
bread, you get one loaf of bread analogy Bruce.
>-----Original Message-----
>this is a simple statement, with a few added questions.
>1: FACT, having to "activate" Windows XP so it can only
>be used on 1 PC is BS! why should i pay $200 a pop for
>software to put on each different PC in my house? thats
>stupid! what happens if i rebuild my machine? or just
>have to reformat? is it gonna tell me i have to buy XP
>again? I own 2 PC's, i WILL NOT spend $400 just to put
XP
>on both of them! who was the genius who thought that up?
>each copy should have a licence, to install it on a
fixed
>number of PC's. that way if a family buys it they can do
>all the PC's in thier house on 1 copy. I have 4 PC's in
>the entire house. my 2 , my mothers, and my brothers.
>they expect up to spend almost $1000 for an OS that is
>not going to leave the house!Microsoft is getting to
damn
>greedy!
>.
>

Greg P Rozelle
December 6th 03, 12:30 PM
Have you guys ever heard of buy one get one free?

Also, Anyone here heard about Networking the computers together?

This way one computer can have xp on it and the others can have
different os on it. Then, all the computers can access each other.
And It is legal and not against Microsoft Eula.


Greg P Rozelle

Bruce Chambers
December 6th 03, 12:30 PM
Greetings --

Heard of? Sure. Believed? Not since I was very young and naive.
;-}

"Buy one, get one free" sales offers have been nothing but sucker
bait from time immemorial. No merchant is going to make such an offer
unless the price of the single item has been "adjusted" to cover the
cost of the second, purportedly "free" item.

TNSTAAFL, for cryin' out loud, people!


Bruce Chambers

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having both at once. -- RAH


"Greg P Rozelle" > wrote in message
...
> Have you guys ever heard of buy one get one free?
>

Bruce Chambers
December 6th 03, 12:30 PM
Greetings --

Quite right. There's nothing that says the OP *has* to upgrade
every computer.

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
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having both at once. -- RAH


"Greg P Rozelle" > wrote in message
...
>
> Also, Anyone here heard about Networking the computers together?
>
> This way one computer can have xp on it and the others can have
> different os on it. Then, all the computers can access each other.
> And It is legal and not against Microsoft Eula.
>
>
> Greg P Rozelle
>
>
>

rifleman
December 6th 03, 12:31 PM
In ,
Bruce Chambers > typed:
> Greetings --
>
> Heard of? Sure. Believed? Not since I was very young and naive.
> ;-}
>
> "Buy one, get one free" sales offers have been nothing but sucker
> bait from time immemorial. No merchant is going to make such an offer
> unless the price of the single item has been "adjusted" to cover the
> cost of the second, purportedly "free" item.
>
> TNSTAAFL, for cryin' out loud, people!
>
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> ----
> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> having both at once. -- RAH
>
>
> "Greg P Rozelle" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Have you guys ever heard of buy one get one free?

Actually, in the UK, the "Buy-one-get-one-free" thing is paid for by the
SUPPLIER of the goods, ie if Walmart sell Coke cans on a
Buy-one-get-one-free offer, then they bill Coca Cola with the difference! It
all comes out of the Marketing Budget and is nothing to do with the retailer
being kind to his customers!

--
(I may be wrong...I usually am....)
Google is your Friend
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam:
www.gbpcomputing.co.uk

Jupiter Jones [MVP]
December 6th 03, 12:31 PM
The customer still pays.
There is no free lunch.
That is just an example of how much mark up there is unless it is a
loss leader, very rare for drinks.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.


"rifleman" > wrote in message
...
> In ,
> Bruce Chambers > typed:
> > Greetings --
> >
> > Heard of? Sure. Believed? Not since I was very young and
naive.
> > ;-}
> >
> > "Buy one, get one free" sales offers have been nothing but
sucker
> > bait from time immemorial. No merchant is going to make such an
offer
> > unless the price of the single item has been "adjusted" to cover
the
> > cost of the second, purportedly "free" item.
> >
> > TNSTAAFL, for cryin' out loud, people!
> >
> >
> > Bruce Chambers
> >
> > Help us help you:
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> > ----
> > You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> > having both at once. -- RAH
> >
> >
> > "Greg P Rozelle" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Have you guys ever heard of buy one get one free?
>
> Actually, in the UK, the "Buy-one-get-one-free" thing is paid for by
the
> SUPPLIER of the goods, ie if Walmart sell Coke cans on a
> Buy-one-get-one-free offer, then they bill Coca Cola with the
difference! It
> all comes out of the Marketing Budget and is nothing to do with the
retailer
> being kind to his customers!
>
> --
> (I may be wrong...I usually am....)
> Google is your Friend
> Email address deliberately false to avoid spam:
> www.gbpcomputing.co.uk
>
>
>

Greg P Rozelle
December 6th 03, 12:32 PM
What about the times Walmat reduces the price? At least here in the
U.S. I have seen it done. They do lose money but get more sells.
So the actual they gain money.

Greg P Rozelle


>On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 01:47:50 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote:

>The customer still pays.
>There is no free lunch.
>That is just an example of how much mark up there is unless it is a
>loss leader, very rare for drinks.
>
>--
>Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
>Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.
>
>
>"rifleman" > wrote in message
...
>> In ,
>> Bruce Chambers > typed:
>> > Greetings --
>> >
>> > Heard of? Sure. Believed? Not since I was very young and
>naive.
>> > ;-}
>> >
>> > "Buy one, get one free" sales offers have been nothing but
>sucker
>> > bait from time immemorial. No merchant is going to make such an
>offer
>> > unless the price of the single item has been "adjusted" to cover
>the
>> > cost of the second, purportedly "free" item.
>> >
>> > TNSTAAFL, for cryin' out loud, people!
>> >
>> >
>> > Bruce Chambers
>> >
>> > Help us help you:
>> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>> > ----
>> > You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
>> > having both at once. -- RAH
>> >
>> >
>> > "Greg P Rozelle" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> Have you guys ever heard of buy one get one free?
>>
>> Actually, in the UK, the "Buy-one-get-one-free" thing is paid for by
>the
>> SUPPLIER of the goods, ie if Walmart sell Coke cans on a
>> Buy-one-get-one-free offer, then they bill Coca Cola with the
>difference! It
>> all comes out of the Marketing Budget and is nothing to do with the
>retailer
>> being kind to his customers!
>>
>> --
>> (I may be wrong...I usually am....)
>> Google is your Friend
>> Email address deliberately false to avoid spam:
>> www.gbpcomputing.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>
>

rifleman
December 6th 03, 12:32 PM
In article >,
says...
> What about the times Walmat reduces the price? At least here in the
> U.S. I have seen it done. They do lose money but get more sells.
> So the actual they gain money.
>
> Greg P Rozelle
>
>
> >On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 01:47:50 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote:
>
> >The customer still pays.
> >There is no free lunch.
> >That is just an example of how much mark up there is unless it is a
> >loss leader, very rare for drinks.
> >
> >--
> >Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> >An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> >Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.
> >
> >
> >"rifleman" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> In ,
> >> Bruce Chambers > typed:
> >> > Greetings --
> >> >
> >> > Heard of? Sure. Believed? Not since I was very young and
> >naive.
> >> > ;-}
> >> >
> >> > "Buy one, get one free" sales offers have been nothing but
> >sucker
> >> > bait from time immemorial. No merchant is going to make such an
> >offer
> >> > unless the price of the single item has been "adjusted" to cover
> >the
> >> > cost of the second, purportedly "free" item.
> >> >
> >> > TNSTAAFL, for cryin' out loud, people!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Bruce Chambers
> >> >
> >> > Help us help you:
> >> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >> > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> >> > ----
> >> > You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> >> > having both at once. -- RAH
No, even then, if there is a promotional price, the retailer bills the
supplier for the difference! It's commercial blackmail!
--
(I may be wrong...I usually am....)
Google is your Friend
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam:
www.gbpcomputing.co.uk

nedjm
December 6th 03, 12:32 PM
If you feel comforable with ignoring the "license for one
only" requirement, just install the os on both computers.
nedjm

"Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings --
>
> Quite right. There's nothing that says the OP *has* to upgrade
> every computer.
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> ----
> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> having both at once. -- RAH
>
>
> "Greg P Rozelle" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Also, Anyone here heard about Networking the computers together?
> >
> > This way one computer can have xp on it and the others can have
> > different os on it. Then, all the computers can access each other.
> > And It is legal and not against Microsoft Eula.
> >
> >
> > Greg P Rozelle
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Jupiter Jones [MVP]
December 6th 03, 12:32 PM
Please do not suggest that people become thieves.
Also WPA puts a major roadblock in your illegal suggestion.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.


"nedjm" > wrote in message
...
> If you feel comforable with ignoring the "license for one
> only" requirement, just install the os on both computers.
> nedjm
>
> "Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Greetings --
> >
> > Quite right. There's nothing that says the OP *has* to
upgrade
> > every computer.
> >
> > Bruce Chambers
> >
> > Help us help you:
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> > ----
> > You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> > having both at once. -- RAH
> >
> >
> > "Greg P Rozelle" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > Also, Anyone here heard about Networking the computers
together?
> > >
> > > This way one computer can have xp on it and the others can have
> > > different os on it. Then, all the computers can access each
other.
> > > And It is legal and not against Microsoft Eula.
> > >
> > >
> > > Greg P Rozelle
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

nedjm
December 6th 03, 12:32 PM
J.J.,
You are misinterpreting my comment. What is WPA?
nedjm

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Please do not suggest that people become thieves.
> Also WPA puts a major roadblock in your illegal suggestion.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.
>
>
> "nedjm" > wrote in message
> ...
> > If you feel comforable with ignoring the "license for one
> > only" requirement, just install the os on both computers.
> > nedjm
> >
> > "Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Greetings --
> > >
> > > Quite right. There's nothing that says the OP *has* to
> upgrade
> > > every computer.
> > >
> > > Bruce Chambers
> > >
> > > Help us help you:
> > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> > > ----
> > > You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> > > having both at once. -- RAH
> > >
> > >
> > > "Greg P Rozelle" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > > Also, Anyone here heard about Networking the computers
> together?
> > > >
> > > > This way one computer can have xp on it and the others can have
> > > > different os on it. Then, all the computers can access each
> other.
> > > > And It is legal and not against Microsoft Eula.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Greg P Rozelle
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Jupiter Jones [MVP]
December 6th 03, 12:32 PM
That may be.
But when you suggest 'ignoring the "license for one only"
requirement', it sounds like you are suggesting illegal installation
on a second computer.
WPA=Windows Product Activation:
http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.


"nedjm" > wrote in message
...
> J.J.,
> You are misinterpreting my comment. What is WPA?
> nedjm
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Please do not suggest that people become thieves.
> > Also WPA puts a major roadblock in your illegal suggestion.
> >
> > --
> > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > Please respond to newsgroup only for everyone's benefit.
> >
> >
> > "nedjm" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > If you feel comforable with ignoring the "license for one
> > > only" requirement, just install the os on both computers.
> > > nedjm
> > >
> > > "Bruce Chambers" > wrote in
message
> > > ...
> > > > Greetings --
> > > >
> > > > Quite right. There's nothing that says the OP *has* to
> > upgrade
> > > > every computer.
> > > >
> > > > Bruce Chambers
> > > >
> > > > Help us help you:
> > > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> > > > ----
> > > > You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever
count on
> > > > having both at once. -- RAH
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Greg P Rozelle" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, Anyone here heard about Networking the computers
> > together?
> > > > >
> > > > > This way one computer can have xp on it and the others can
have
> > > > > different os on it. Then, all the computers can access each
> > other.
> > > > > And It is legal and not against Microsoft Eula.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Greg P Rozelle
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Greg P Rozelle
December 6th 03, 12:32 PM
Snipped for space

>No, even then, if there is a promotional price, the retailer bills the
>supplier for the difference! It's commercial blackmail!
>--
>(I may be wrong...I usually am....)
>Google is your Friend
>Email address deliberately false to avoid spam:
>www.gbpcomputing.co.uk
>

Rifleman,
That maybe so in the U.K.
Does not mean that in the U.S. but I could be wrong.
We laws to stop that type of pratice here.
Only time it would go on sale if the supplier discounted it.
Or a closeout if they no longer want to sell it-then the retailer
looses. Like microsoft selling a buch of xp to school for a reduce
price, then then reduce price is passed on to the students & teachers.

I could be wrong. Any U.S. Suppliers care to respond to this post.

Greg P Rozelle

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