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PraveenReddy
January 23rd 04, 06:22 PM
hi folks
Iam planning to format my drive and install linux and windows xp home (dual
boot) but unfortunately dont know which one goes first..can anyone help me
please..
i have a presario 900 laptop and will be any problem to get display drivers
and stuff like that in linux??please let me know
thanx in advance..
Red

Yves Leclerc
January 23rd 04, 06:23 PM
Maximum PC magazine for Feb 2004 has directions to install a Linux along
with XP.

Y.

"PraveenReddy" > wrote in message
...
> hi folks
> Iam planning to format my drive and install linux and windows xp home
(dual
> boot) but unfortunately dont know which one goes first..can anyone help me
> please..
> i have a presario 900 laptop and will be any problem to get display
drivers
> and stuff like that in linux??please let me know
> thanx in advance..
> Red
>
>

Quaoar
January 23rd 04, 06:23 PM
PraveenReddy wrote:
> hi folks
> Iam planning to format my drive and install linux and windows xp home
> (dual boot) but unfortunately dont know which one goes first..can
> anyone help me please..
> i have a presario 900 laptop and will be any problem to get display
> drivers and stuff like that in linux??please let me know
> thanx in advance..
> Red

You can Google "dual boot xp linux" for advice. The best course, IMO,
is to partition your drive, leaving a partition of at least 5MB for
linux, more preferably. Since Linux cannot "see" NTFS drives, if you
want to tranfer files between OSes, then you will need a small say 1MB
Fat32 partition also. So you have these partitions: 1 large NTFS for
XP, 1 small FAT32, 1 5+MB for Linux. XP should be installed first and
be completely running in all aspects before you then install Linux.

Contrary to what the Linux advocates would have you believe, installing
Linux can be very burdensome for a newbie. That is why you want a known
workable OS like XP as your [inevitable] fallback running before you
attempt Linux. Good Luck.

Due to the subject matter, I do not respond to the predictable flames.

Q

Steve Nielsen
January 23rd 04, 06:23 PM
You say Linux9 so I assume you mean Red Hat 9.0, whihc includes GRUB as
the default boot loader.

Easiest way is to install Windows on the first partition or drive then
Linux on the remaining one and use GRUB for the boot loader.

I've done it another way (but this was using Win2K, but would still work
using XP) using the boot.ini settings in Windows but that involves
several additional steps like writing the Windows MBR to a file,
installing Linux, writing the Linux MBR to a file, copying the Windows
MBR file back to the MBR, copying the Linux MBR file to the boot HDD
and editing boot.ini to use the Linux MBR file to boot into Linux.
Requires several reboots from floppy and a program called boot.exe.

There are other ways to do it but they get even more complicated.

Steve

PraveenReddy wrote:
> hi folks
> Iam planning to format my drive and install linux and windows xp home (dual
> boot) but unfortunately dont know which one goes first..can anyone help me
> please..
> i have a presario 900 laptop and will be any problem to get display drivers
> and stuff like that in linux??please let me know
> thanx in advance..
> Red
>
>

Rob Schneider
January 23rd 04, 07:03 PM
Also, you should find full instructions in a PDF file for how to do this
on the CD holding Red Hat. If not there, then you can download from
Red Hat's web site. You'll find, unless you have very obscure hardware,
it will install with no problem.

Hope this is useful to you. Let us know.

rms




Steve Nielsen wrote:
> You say Linux9 so I assume you mean Red Hat 9.0, whihc includes GRUB as
> the default boot loader.
>
> Easiest way is to install Windows on the first partition or drive then
> Linux on the remaining one and use GRUB for the boot loader.
>
> I've done it another way (but this was using Win2K, but would still work
> using XP) using the boot.ini settings in Windows but that involves
> several additional steps like writing the Windows MBR to a file,
> installing Linux, writing the Linux MBR to a file, copying the Windows
> MBR file back to the MBR, copying the Linux MBR file to the boot HDD
> and editing boot.ini to use the Linux MBR file to boot into Linux.
> Requires several reboots from floppy and a program called boot.exe.
>
> There are other ways to do it but they get even more complicated.
>
> Steve
>
> PraveenReddy wrote:
>
>> hi folks
>> Iam planning to format my drive and install linux and windows xp home
>> (dual
>> boot) but unfortunately dont know which one goes first..can anyone
>> help me
>> please..
>> i have a presario 900 laptop and will be any problem to get display
>> drivers
>> and stuff like that in linux??please let me know
>> thanx in advance..
>> Red
>>
>>
>

NoSf3RaTu
January 23rd 04, 08:43 PM
Try Microsoft Virtual PC 04 on XP it works like a charm...


"Rob Schneider" > wrote in message
...
> Also, you should find full instructions in a PDF file for how to do this
> on the CD holding Red Hat. If not there, then you can download from
> Red Hat's web site. You'll find, unless you have very obscure hardware,
> it will install with no problem.
>
> Hope this is useful to you. Let us know.
>
> rms
>
>
>
>
> Steve Nielsen wrote:
> > You say Linux9 so I assume you mean Red Hat 9.0, whihc includes GRUB as
> > the default boot loader.
> >
> > Easiest way is to install Windows on the first partition or drive then
> > Linux on the remaining one and use GRUB for the boot loader.
> >
> > I've done it another way (but this was using Win2K, but would still work
> > using XP) using the boot.ini settings in Windows but that involves
> > several additional steps like writing the Windows MBR to a file,
> > installing Linux, writing the Linux MBR to a file, copying the Windows
> > MBR file back to the MBR, copying the Linux MBR file to the boot HDD
> > and editing boot.ini to use the Linux MBR file to boot into Linux.
> > Requires several reboots from floppy and a program called boot.exe.
> >
> > There are other ways to do it but they get even more complicated.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > PraveenReddy wrote:
> >
> >> hi folks
> >> Iam planning to format my drive and install linux and windows xp home
> >> (dual
> >> boot) but unfortunately dont know which one goes first..can anyone
> >> help me
> >> please..
> >> i have a presario 900 laptop and will be any problem to get display
> >> drivers
> >> and stuff like that in linux??please let me know
> >> thanx in advance..
> >> Red
> >>
> >>
> >

Graham
January 23rd 04, 10:23 PM
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:18:03 -0700, "Quaoar" >
wrote:

>PraveenReddy wrote:
>> hi folks
>> Iam planning to format my drive and install linux and windows xp home
>> (dual boot) but unfortunately dont know which one goes first..can
>> anyone help me please..
>> i have a presario 900 laptop and will be any problem to get display
>> drivers and stuff like that in linux??please let me know
>> thanx in advance..
>> Red
>
>You can Google "dual boot xp linux" for advice. The best course, IMO,
>is to partition your drive, leaving a partition of at least 5MB for
>linux, more preferably. Since Linux cannot "see" NTFS drives, if you
>want to tranfer files between OSes, then you will need a small say 1MB
>Fat32 partition also. So you have these partitions: 1 large NTFS for
>XP, 1 small FAT32, 1 5+MB for Linux. XP should be installed first and
>be completely running in all aspects before you then install Linux.
>
>Contrary to what the Linux advocates would have you believe, installing
>Linux can be very burdensome for a newbie. That is why you want a known
>workable OS like XP as your [inevitable] fallback running before you
>attempt Linux. Good Luck.
>
>Due to the subject matter, I do not respond to the predictable flames.

I'm currently running SuSE, XP pro and ME, (having very recently
installed XP), on 2 drives. Install Linux last. SuSE not only offers
to partition your drive but will automatically set up the dual boot
for you as well, you can modify it to suit, both during setup and
afterwards. Certainly SUSE 8.2 cannot read NTFS but I seem to remember
(might be wrong) that the latest version 9.? will read but not
necessary write to one. As for installation, a doddle; if you are
running a fairly modern box. I must admit I still use Windows more
than SuSE. As for screensavers etc etc, you are spoilt for choice.
Only real problem I've found is the very steep learning curve. I know
where things tend to hide out in Windows, Linux, I still generally
have to ask! As mentioned above, its nice to have a fall back system,
although for how much longer I can't answer.

regards

Graham

Steve Nielsen
January 23rd 04, 10:44 PM
I've read all major Linux distros using the current kernel are (at least
theoretically) capable of read-only NTFS access and have been for a
while now. Write access is still considered "experimental", there are
circumstances when write access can cause NTFS data corruption,
particularly if the NTFS volume is flagged "dirty" (and if it is it
needs to be fixed anyway).

Steve

Graham wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:18:03 -0700, "Quaoar" >
> wrote:
>
>
>>PraveenReddy wrote:
>>
>>>hi folks
>>>Iam planning to format my drive and install linux and windows xp home
>>>(dual boot) but unfortunately dont know which one goes first..can
>>>anyone help me please..
>>>i have a presario 900 laptop and will be any problem to get display
>>>drivers and stuff like that in linux??please let me know
>>>thanx in advance..
>>>Red
>>
>>You can Google "dual boot xp linux" for advice. The best course, IMO,
>>is to partition your drive, leaving a partition of at least 5MB for
>>linux, more preferably. Since Linux cannot "see" NTFS drives, if you
>>want to tranfer files between OSes, then you will need a small say 1MB
>>Fat32 partition also. So you have these partitions: 1 large NTFS for
>>XP, 1 small FAT32, 1 5+MB for Linux. XP should be installed first and
>>be completely running in all aspects before you then install Linux.
>>
>>Contrary to what the Linux advocates would have you believe, installing
>>Linux can be very burdensome for a newbie. That is why you want a known
>>workable OS like XP as your [inevitable] fallback running before you
>>attempt Linux. Good Luck.
>>
>>Due to the subject matter, I do not respond to the predictable flames.
>
>
> I'm currently running SuSE, XP pro and ME, (having very recently
> installed XP), on 2 drives. Install Linux last. SuSE not only offers
> to partition your drive but will automatically set up the dual boot
> for you as well, you can modify it to suit, both during setup and
> afterwards. Certainly SUSE 8.2 cannot read NTFS but I seem to remember
> (might be wrong) that the latest version 9.? will read but not
> necessary write to one. As for installation, a doddle; if you are
> running a fairly modern box. I must admit I still use Windows more
> than SuSE. As for screensavers etc etc, you are spoilt for choice.
> Only real problem I've found is the very steep learning curve. I know
> where things tend to hide out in Windows, Linux, I still generally
> have to ask! As mentioned above, its nice to have a fall back system,
> although for how much longer I can't answer.
>
> regards
>
> Graham
>

xandros user
January 25th 04, 01:02 AM
PraveenReddy wrote:
> hi folks
> Iam planning to format my drive and install linux and windows xp home (dual
> boot) but unfortunately dont know which one goes first..can anyone help me
> please..
> i have a presario 900 laptop and will be any problem to get display drivers
> and stuff like that in linux??please let me know
> thanx in advance..
> Red
>
>
I would suggest downloading Knoppix 3.3 and boot to it for a dry one.
For all the MS/Windows folks out there who dont know anything about
Linux, Knoppix runs from the cd via a ram disk. If Knoppix runs on your
laptop then most current linux distros should run fine.

Jeff
February 1st 04, 04:22 PM
I have heard about Knoppix but know little of it.

What does Knoppix have less than a Red Hat 9 or Mandrake 8 Linux
installation?

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"xandros user" > wrote in message
news:_wDQb.140567$I06.1299015@attbi_s01...
> PraveenReddy wrote:
> > hi folks
> > Iam planning to format my drive and install linux and windows xp home
(dual
> > boot) but unfortunately dont know which one goes first..can anyone help
me
> > please..
> > i have a presario 900 laptop and will be any problem to get display
drivers
> > and stuff like that in linux??please let me know
> > thanx in advance..
> > Red
> >
> >
> I would suggest downloading Knoppix 3.3 and boot to it for a dry one.
> For all the MS/Windows folks out there who dont know anything about
> Linux, Knoppix runs from the cd via a ram disk. If Knoppix runs on your
> laptop then most current linux distros should run fine.
>
>

Malke
February 1st 04, 05:43 PM
Jeff wrote:

> I have heard about Knoppix but know little of it.
>
> What does Knoppix have less than a Red Hat 9 or Mandrake 8 Linux
> installation?
>
http://www.knoppix.org/

Malke
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Richard Urban
February 1st 04, 06:44 PM
Why are you asking here?

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"Jeff" > wrote in message
...
> I have heard about Knoppix but know little of it.
>
> What does Knoppix have less than a Red Hat 9 or Mandrake 8 Linux
> installation?
>
> --
>
> Jeff McPherson
> Email address deliberately false to avoid spam
>
> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG
>
> "xandros user" > wrote in message
> news:_wDQb.140567$I06.1299015@attbi_s01...
> > PraveenReddy wrote:
> > > hi folks
> > > Iam planning to format my drive and install linux and windows xp home
> (dual
> > > boot) but unfortunately dont know which one goes first..can anyone
help
> me
> > > please..
> > > i have a presario 900 laptop and will be any problem to get display
> drivers
> > > and stuff like that in linux??please let me know
> > > thanx in advance..
> > > Red
> > >
> > >
> > I would suggest downloading Knoppix 3.3 and boot to it for a dry one.
> > For all the MS/Windows folks out there who dont know anything about
> > Linux, Knoppix runs from the cd via a ram disk. If Knoppix runs on your
> > laptop then most current linux distros should run fine.
> >
> >
>
>

Rifleman
February 2nd 04, 09:22 AM
"Jeff" > wrote in message
...
> I have heard about Knoppix but know little of it.
>
> What does Knoppix have less than a Red Hat 9 or Mandrake 8 Linux
> installation?
>

You don't "install" Knoppix, it runs directly off the CD.

Robt. Miller
February 4th 04, 07:42 PM
In article >, Rifleman wrote:
> "Jeff" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I have heard about Knoppix but know little of it.
>>
>> What does Knoppix have less than a Red Hat 9 or Mandrake 8 Linux
>> installation?
>>
>
> You don't "install" Knoppix, it runs directly off the CD.

You can install it directly from the session that boots from the cd.



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Rifleman
February 6th 04, 06:05 AM
"Robt. Miller" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >, Rifleman wrote:
> > "Jeff" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> I have heard about Knoppix but know little of it.
> >>
> >> What does Knoppix have less than a Red Hat 9 or Mandrake 8 Linux
> >> installation?
> >>
> >
> > You don't "install" Knoppix, it runs directly off the CD.
>
> You can install it directly from the session that boots from the cd.
>

Yes you can, but that's not the main point of Knoppix. The main point is,
you don't NEED to install it.

Rifleman
February 6th 04, 06:05 AM
"Robt. Miller" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >, Rifleman wrote:
> > "Jeff" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> I have heard about Knoppix but know little of it.
> >>
> >> What does Knoppix have less than a Red Hat 9 or Mandrake 8 Linux
> >> installation?
> >>
> >
> > You don't "install" Knoppix, it runs directly off the CD.
>
> You can install it directly from the session that boots from the cd.
>

Yes you can, but that's not the main point of Knoppix. The main point is,
you don't NEED to install it.

Rifleman
February 6th 04, 06:08 AM
"Robt. Miller" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >, Rifleman wrote:
> > "Jeff" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> I have heard about Knoppix but know little of it.
> >>
> >> What does Knoppix have less than a Red Hat 9 or Mandrake 8 Linux
> >> installation?
> >>
> >
> > You don't "install" Knoppix, it runs directly off the CD.
>
> You can install it directly from the session that boots from the cd.
>

Yes you can, but that's not the main point of Knoppix. The main point is,
you don't NEED to install it.

Rifleman
February 6th 04, 06:18 AM
"Robt. Miller" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >, Rifleman wrote:
> > "Jeff" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> I have heard about Knoppix but know little of it.
> >>
> >> What does Knoppix have less than a Red Hat 9 or Mandrake 8 Linux
> >> installation?
> >>
> >
> > You don't "install" Knoppix, it runs directly off the CD.
>
> You can install it directly from the session that boots from the cd.
>

Yes you can, but that's not the main point of Knoppix. The main point is,
you don't NEED to install it.

Rifleman
February 6th 04, 06:22 AM
"Robt. Miller" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >, Rifleman wrote:
> > "Jeff" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> I have heard about Knoppix but know little of it.
> >>
> >> What does Knoppix have less than a Red Hat 9 or Mandrake 8 Linux
> >> installation?
> >>
> >
> > You don't "install" Knoppix, it runs directly off the CD.
>
> You can install it directly from the session that boots from the cd.
>

Yes you can, but that's not the main point of Knoppix. The main point is,
you don't NEED to install it.

Rifleman
February 6th 04, 06:28 AM
"Robt. Miller" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >, Rifleman wrote:
> > "Jeff" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> I have heard about Knoppix but know little of it.
> >>
> >> What does Knoppix have less than a Red Hat 9 or Mandrake 8 Linux
> >> installation?
> >>
> >
> > You don't "install" Knoppix, it runs directly off the CD.
>
> You can install it directly from the session that boots from the cd.
>

Yes you can, but that's not the main point of Knoppix. The main point is,
you don't NEED to install it.

Rifleman
February 6th 04, 06:37 AM
"Robt. Miller" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >, Rifleman wrote:
> > "Jeff" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> I have heard about Knoppix but know little of it.
> >>
> >> What does Knoppix have less than a Red Hat 9 or Mandrake 8 Linux
> >> installation?
> >>
> >
> > You don't "install" Knoppix, it runs directly off the CD.
>
> You can install it directly from the session that boots from the cd.
>

Yes you can, but that's not the main point of Knoppix. The main point is,
you don't NEED to install it.

Rifleman
February 6th 04, 06:39 AM
"Robt. Miller" > wrote in message
.. .
> In article >, Rifleman wrote:
> > "Jeff" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> I have heard about Knoppix but know little of it.
> >>
> >> What does Knoppix have less than a Red Hat 9 or Mandrake 8 Linux
> >> installation?
> >>
> >
> > You don't "install" Knoppix, it runs directly off the CD.
>
> You can install it directly from the session that boots from the cd.
>

Yes you can, but that's not the main point of Knoppix. The main point is,
you don't NEED to install it.

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