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BB
January 23rd 04, 11:21 PM
How do I compress files in a zip folder with XP? Other versions of Windows allow you to do this with Explorer or My Computer. When I checked "help," a note said this feature was not available on 64 bit XP. What does that mean?

*Vanguard*
January 23rd 04, 11:41 PM
"BB" said in :
> How do I compress files in a zip folder with XP? Other versions of
> Windows allow you to do this with Explorer or My Computer. When I
> checked "help," a note said this feature was not available on 64 bit
> XP. What does that mean?

In Explorer when you select one or more files or folders, and after
right-clicking on them, do you see a Send To -> Compressed Folder menu
entry?

I did see the "The Compressed (zipped) Folders feature is not available on
Windows XP 64-Bit Edition." comment in the Help. I'm using Windows XP. You
don't mention what you are using. So are you really using Windows XP 64-bit
version (and the hardware to support it)? If so, remember it's called the
bleeding edge because you'll get your fingers cut on it. The zip
compression support in Windows XP (non-64 bit) is minimal, anyway, with very
few features. You cannot select the compression ration, to password protect
the file, and there are probably plenty of other restrictions. If you
really want a better file compression archival tool then get a real zip
program.

UltimateZip is free but hasn't seen any development since March 2002. The
maker's web site (www.ultimatezip.com) in their FAQs notes there are sponser
ads in the freebie version (but another user states that they don't see
anything other than a flash screen when loading the program). UltimateZip
is a clone of WinZip, and originally was publicware. WinZip 8 is also
available but you're expected to pay for it. It has been at version 8 for a
very long time, like maybe 2 years (and version 9 has been in "beta" for
nearly as long). From what I hear, it appears WinZip is a defunct product
(it works okay but there's no work being done on it). I currently use PKZip
although I don't like its behavior for compressing e-mail attachments (N
attachments gets merged into 1 .zip file that has a filename of the first
attachment) so I still use QuickView Plus' Outlook integration to provide a
separate .zip file for each attachment and only compress the attachments
past a specified threshold. I tried ZipMagic a couple years ago. Don't
remember who owned it at that time but it has changed hands to Ontrack which
then sold it to Aladdin (who also sells StuffIt).

Microsoft provides a lot of crippled or minimalized 3rd party tools with its
operating systems. Its defrag tool is from Diskeeper but won't allow you to
schedule defrags like Diskeeper will. If you want more than the simplistic
utility that Microsoft has incorporated in their OS, you're expected to go
buy a more powerful version of the product or a different product. I'm
pretty sure that professionals making movies really don't much rely on
MovieMaker that comes in Windows XP. There is one class of user that wants
Microsoft to include every possible full-featured software function and
product in their one OS product. Then there are those that consider all
this as bloatware since they know they won't want the simplistic auxiliary
or superfluous software that gets crammed into the Windows product. And
there are those that think such minimal, simplistic, under featured tools
included in Windows represents a real threat against the producer's of
full-featured powerful versions of those tools. Yeah, right.


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BB
January 24th 04, 01:01 AM
Thank you. Your feedback was totally helpful. I've used pkZip before. It worked pretty well for my needs. I am using XP. Only a forlorn little "Folder" rather than a Compressed Folder pops up as an option when I right-click rather. I definitely agree
I'm better off with a real zip program. THANKS!

Joan Archer
January 24th 04, 11:41 AM
Have you had a look at PowerArchiver, I use that on my XP Home and find it
very good. I think it cost me about 19 US $ about a couple of years ago
but that was for a lifetime licence and in my UK £'s at the time wasn't
very much. I get upates when they are available at no extra cost.
Just my opinion.
Joan

BB wrote:
> Thank you. Your feedback was totally helpful. I've used pkZip
> before. It worked pretty well for my needs. I am using XP. Only a
> forlorn little "Folder" rather than a Compressed Folder pops up as an
> option when I right-click rather. I definitely agree I'm better off
> with a real zip program. THANKS!

David Candy
January 24th 04, 11:41 AM
Xref: kermit microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers:116219

Cause you can schedule defrag. Schedule defrag.exe not defrag.msc. Type =
defrag /? for more.



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"*Vanguard*" > wrote in message =
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> "BB" said in :
> > How do I compress files in a zip folder with XP? Other versions of
> > Windows allow you to do this with Explorer or My Computer. When I
> > checked "help," a note said this feature was not available on 64 bit
> > XP. What does that mean?
>=20
> In Explorer when you select one or more files or folders, and after
> right-clicking on them, do you see a Send To -> Compressed Folder menu
> entry?
>=20
> I did see the "The Compressed (zipped) Folders feature is not =
available on
> Windows XP 64-Bit Edition." comment in the Help. I'm using Windows =
XP. You
> don't mention what you are using. So are you really using Windows XP =
64-bit
> version (and the hardware to support it)? If so, remember it's called =
the
> bleeding edge because you'll get your fingers cut on it. The zip
> compression support in Windows XP (non-64 bit) is minimal, anyway, =
with very
> few features. You cannot select the compression ration, to password =
protect
> the file, and there are probably plenty of other restrictions. If you
> really want a better file compression archival tool then get a real =
zip
> program.
>=20
> UltimateZip is free but hasn't seen any development since March 2002. =
The
> maker's web site (www.ultimatezip.com) in their FAQs notes there are =
sponser
> ads in the freebie version (but another user states that they don't =
see
> anything other than a flash screen when loading the program). =
UltimateZip
> is a clone of WinZip, and originally was publicware. WinZip 8 is also
> available but you're expected to pay for it. It has been at version 8 =
for a
> very long time, like maybe 2 years (and version 9 has been in "beta" =
for
> nearly as long). From what I hear, it appears WinZip is a defunct =
product
> (it works okay but there's no work being done on it). I currently use =
PKZip
> although I don't like its behavior for compressing e-mail attachments =
(N
> attachments gets merged into 1 .zip file that has a filename of the =
first
> attachment) so I still use QuickView Plus' Outlook integration to =
provide a
> separate .zip file for each attachment and only compress the =
attachments
> past a specified threshold. I tried ZipMagic a couple years ago. =
Don't
> remember who owned it at that time but it has changed hands to Ontrack =
which
> then sold it to Aladdin (who also sells StuffIt).
>=20
> Microsoft provides a lot of crippled or minimalized 3rd party tools =
with its
> operating systems. Its defrag tool is from Diskeeper but won't allow =
you to
> schedule defrags like Diskeeper will. If you want more than the =
simplistic
> utility that Microsoft has incorporated in their OS, you're expected =
to go
> buy a more powerful version of the product or a different product. =
I'm
> pretty sure that professionals making movies really don't much rely on
> MovieMaker that comes in Windows XP. There is one class of user that =
wants
> Microsoft to include every possible full-featured software function =
and
> product in their one OS product. Then there are those that consider =
all
> this as bloatware since they know they won't want the simplistic =
auxiliary
> or superfluous software that gets crammed into the Windows product. =
And
> there are those that think such minimal, simplistic, under featured =
tools
> included in Windows represents a real threat against the producer's of
> full-featured powerful versions of those tools. Yeah, right.
>=20
>=20
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