Where are the Software God's? - Who Can Help?

[Shawna]

It sure would be great to get some support on this
matter. I wish I knew how to troubleshoot this.

Surely I am not the only one who goes searching for recent
files many many times a day.

We have many view settings but in all those settings we've
lost the most useful setting.

I can not accept the idea that it is a design. I could
accept that it is by oversight but not design. Why would
anyone purposely put the folders and the most recent files
at opposite ends of the list? Anyhow, If it's by design,
it's by poor design.

Kelly, You indicated that you would look into it. Did you
find anything?

WINDOWS XP FILE SORTING PROBLEM

Much appreciated,
Shawna




>-----Original Message-----
>Shawna wrote:
><major snip>
>> Regardless of what is forward and reverse: Somewhere
>> between Win 98 SE and XP, Microsoft began putting the
OLD
>> files next to the folders instead of NEW files next to
the
>> folders in date sorts.
>
>Shawna calls it. Here are your screen shots, sans Win98.
>http://www.jwfunke.net/windate/windate.htm
>
>How weird! (or More things I never noticed. :-) )
>Win95 sort- new to old
>WinME sort- old to new
>*But* using File Manager instead of Explorer in WinMe
gives the Win95
>style sort.
>WinXP sort- old to new
>
>Unfortunately for you, Shawna, it seems "This is by
design." (They also
>got rid of the sometimes useful winfile.exe in XP.)
>
>John
>
>.
>

[Kelly]

Give it up, Shawna.

>Anyhow, If it's by design, it's by poor design.

How to Contact the Microsoft Wish Program
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--
All the Best,
Kelly

MS-MVP Win98/XP
[AE-Windows® XP]

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com

Utilities for Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_u.htm#xp_util


"Shawna" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> It sure would be great to get some support on this
> matter. I wish I knew how to troubleshoot this.
>
> Surely I am not the only one who goes searching for recent
> files many many times a day.
>
> We have many view settings but in all those settings we've
> lost the most useful setting.
>
> I can not accept the idea that it is a design. I could
> accept that it is by oversight but not design. Why would
> anyone purposely put the folders and the most recent files
> at opposite ends of the list? Anyhow, If it's by design,
> it's by poor design.
>
> Kelly, You indicated that you would look into it. Did you
> find anything?
>
> WINDOWS XP FILE SORTING PROBLEM
>
> Much appreciated,
> Shawna
>
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Shawna wrote:
> ><major snip>
> >> Regardless of what is forward and reverse: Somewhere
> >> between Win 98 SE and XP, Microsoft began putting the
> OLD
> >> files next to the folders instead of NEW files next to
> the
> >> folders in date sorts.
> >
> >Shawna calls it. Here are your screen shots, sans Win98.
> >http://www.jwfunke.net/windate/windate.htm
> >
> >How weird! (or More things I never noticed. :-) )
> >Win95 sort- new to old
> >WinME sort- old to new
> >*But* using File Manager instead of Explorer in WinMe
> gives the Win95
> >style sort.
> >WinXP sort- old to new
> >
> >Unfortunately for you, Shawna, it seems "This is by
> design." (They also
> >got rid of the sometimes useful winfile.exe in XP.)
> >
> >John
> >
> >.
> >

[Shawna]

>Give it up, Shawna.

Forgive my ignorance please Kelly,
Are you saying that this is the end of the line and that
there is no hope to resolve this problem?
If this were a very important problem for you, would
you "give it up" at this point?
Do you have a suggestion of what I may do to resolve this
aside from "giving it up"?
This is not just a passing interest for me.
Thanks in advance,
Shawna

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Why not simply select Explorer's Details view, and sort by date?
Seems straight-forward enough to me. Anyway, most people already know
where they save their files, so they don't usually have to search for
them.

Bruce Chambers

--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH


"Shawna" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> It sure would be great to get some support on this
> matter. I wish I knew how to troubleshoot this.
>
> Surely I am not the only one who goes searching for recent
> files many many times a day.
>
> We have many view settings but in all those settings we've
> lost the most useful setting.
>
> I can not accept the idea that it is a design. I could
> accept that it is by oversight but not design. Why would
> anyone purposely put the folders and the most recent files
> at opposite ends of the list? Anyhow, If it's by design,
> it's by poor design.
>
> Kelly, You indicated that you would look into it. Did you
> find anything?
>
> WINDOWS XP FILE SORTING PROBLEM
>
> Much appreciated,
> Shawna
>
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Shawna wrote:
> ><major snip>
> >> Regardless of what is forward and reverse: Somewhere
> >> between Win 98 SE and XP, Microsoft began putting the
> OLD
> >> files next to the folders instead of NEW files next to
> the
> >> folders in date sorts.
> >
> >Shawna calls it. Here are your screen shots, sans Win98.
> >http://www.jwfunke.net/windate/windate.htm
> >
> >How weird! (or More things I never noticed. :-) )
> >Win95 sort- new to old
> >WinME sort- old to new
> >*But* using File Manager instead of Explorer in WinMe
> gives the Win95
> >style sort.
> >WinXP sort- old to new
> >
> >Unfortunately for you, Shawna, it seems "This is by
> design." (They also
> >got rid of the sometimes useful winfile.exe in XP.)
> >
> >John
> >
> >.
> >

[Shawna]

Hi Bruce,

Thanks for your suggestion, I'm sorry if my last message
was not complete enough for you to understand what I am
looking for in full.

I wish to see BOTH the folders and the most recent files
at the top of the list as you can with win98, win95,
Norton commander and others but not WinXP

If you manage enough files this would be important to have.
I don't expect you to make my problems yours, but if there
is a way to do it, I would sure like to know how.

Regards,
Shawna



>-----Original Message-----
>Greetings --
>
> Why not simply select Explorer's Details view, and
sort by date?
>Seems straight-forward enough to me. Anyway, most people
already know
>where they save their files, so they don't usually have
to search for
>them.
>
>Bruce Chambers
>
>--
>Help us help you:
>http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever
count on
>having both at once. -- RAH
>
>
>"Shawna" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>
>> It sure would be great to get some support on this
>> matter. I wish I knew how to troubleshoot this.
>>
>> Surely I am not the only one who goes searching for
recent
>> files many many times a day.
>>
>> We have many view settings but in all those settings
we've
>> lost the most useful setting.
>>
>> I can not accept the idea that it is a design. I could
>> accept that it is by oversight but not design. Why
would
>> anyone purposely put the folders and the most recent
files
>> at opposite ends of the list? Anyhow, If it's by design,
>> it's by poor design.
>>
>> Kelly, You indicated that you would look into it. Did
you
>> find anything?
>>
>> WINDOWS XP FILE SORTING PROBLEM
>>
>> Much appreciated,
>> Shawna
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Shawna wrote:
>> ><major snip>
>> >> Regardless of what is forward and reverse: Somewhere
>> >> between Win 98 SE and XP, Microsoft began putting
the
>> OLD
>> >> files next to the folders instead of NEW files next
to
>> the
>> >> folders in date sorts.
>> >
>> >Shawna calls it. Here are your screen shots, sans
Win98.
>> >http://www.jwfunke.net/windate/windate.htm
>> >
>> >How weird! (or More things I never noticed. :-) )
>> >Win95 sort- new to old
>> >WinME sort- old to new
>> >*But* using File Manager instead of Explorer in WinMe
>> gives the Win95
>> >style sort.
>> >WinXP sort- old to new
>> >
>> >Unfortunately for you, Shawna, it seems "This is by
>> design." (They also
>> >got rid of the sometimes useful winfile.exe in XP.)
>> >
>> >John
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

[Kelly]

Shawna,

This post of yours has been going on for days now, cross posted to six
groups. You even started a new thread. I have no further suggestions to
offer at this time, other than my previous message and/or to take it up with
MS.

--
All the Best,
Kelly

MS-MVP Win98/XP
[AE-Windows® XP]

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com

Utilities for Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_u.htm#xp_util


"Shawna" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> >Give it up, Shawna.
>
> Forgive my ignorance please Kelly,
> Are you saying that this is the end of the line and that
> there is no hope to resolve this problem?
> If this were a very important problem for you, would
> you "give it up" at this point?
> Do you have a suggestion of what I may do to resolve this
> aside from "giving it up"?
> This is not just a passing interest for me.
> Thanks in advance,
> Shawna
>

[pgriffet]

"Shawna" > wrote in message >...
> It sure would be great to get some support on this
>
> I can not accept the idea that it is a design. I could
> accept that it is by oversight but not design. Why would
> anyone purposely put the folders and the most recent files
> at opposite ends of the list? Anyhow, If it's by design,
> it's by poor design.
>
Then try Total Commander and qui Explorer :D

TC is a great software which does the job of many others and that's
for me really important. I was a Norton Commander user since 1986
and perhaps am I looking for a tool which is in the same spirit.
Since I use it, I've got rid of Winzip, Quickviewplus, TheRename
and other programs, I never use Explorer anymore.
TC uses an ini file and does not clobber your registry.
It performs so many additional functions that you can remove
several megs of other programs that are no longer needed.
TC is available at http://www.ghisler.com ,
shareware with one nag screen at startup but fully functional,
works with all Windows (from 3.1 to XP, all 32-bit but the 3.1 version).
No garbage in the registry.


- Dual pane File-management interface
- Integrated compression/decompressions of ZIP, CAB, ARJ, RAR, ACE archives
- Integrated FTP client
- File/Directory/FTP Comparisons and Synchronization's.
- Support for Network and Parallel-port (laplink) Connections.
- Support for connection to other Files Systems like Linux EXT2 and PocketPC.
- Support for SFV/MD5 CRC-checksums Creation/Validation
- Support for File Encoding/Decoding: MIME, UUE, XXE, BinHEX
- Support for File Comments: descript.ion, files.bbs
- Integrated Multi-rename Tool
- Integrated File Viewer (Lister)
- Multi-language interface
- Additional plugins for more Archive, File systems and Lister support

The last version has tabbed interface, like in MyIE2 or Mozilla, very useful.

Pierre.

[pgriffet]

"Shawna" > wrote in message >...
> It sure would be great to get some support on this
>
> I can not accept the idea that it is a design. I could
> accept that it is by oversight but not design. Why would
> anyone purposely put the folders and the most recent files
> at opposite ends of the list? Anyhow, If it's by design,
> it's by poor design.
>
Then try Total Commander and qui Explorer :D

TC is a great software which does the job of many others and that's
for me really important. I was a Norton Commander user since 1986
and perhaps am I looking for a tool which is in the same spirit.
Since I use it, I've got rid of Winzip, Quickviewplus, TheRename
and other programs, I never use Explorer anymore.
TC uses an ini file and does not clobber your registry.
It performs so many additional functions that you can remove
several megs of other programs that are no longer needed.
TC is available at http://www.ghisler.com ,
shareware with one nag screen at startup but fully functional,
works with all Windows (from 3.1 to XP, all 32-bit but the 3.1 version).
No garbage in the registry.


- Dual pane File-management interface
- Integrated compression/decompressions of ZIP, CAB, ARJ, RAR, ACE archives
- Integrated FTP client
- File/Directory/FTP Comparisons and Synchronization's.
- Support for Network and Parallel-port (laplink) Connections.
- Support for connection to other Files Systems like Linux EXT2 and PocketPC.
- Support for SFV/MD5 CRC-checksums Creation/Validation
- Support for File Encoding/Decoding: MIME, UUE, XXE, BinHEX
- Support for File Comments: descript.ion, files.bbs
- Integrated Multi-rename Tool
- Integrated File Viewer (Lister)
- Multi-language interface
- Additional plugins for more Archive, File systems and Lister support

The last version has tabbed interface, like in MyIE2 or Mozilla, very useful.

Pierre.

[pgriffet]

"Shawna" > wrote in message >...
> It sure would be great to get some support on this
>
> I can not accept the idea that it is a design. I could
> accept that it is by oversight but not design. Why would
> anyone purposely put the folders and the most recent files
> at opposite ends of the list? Anyhow, If it's by design,
> it's by poor design.
>
Then try Total Commander and qui Explorer :D

TC is a great software which does the job of many others and that's
for me really important. I was a Norton Commander user since 1986
and perhaps am I looking for a tool which is in the same spirit.
Since I use it, I've got rid of Winzip, Quickviewplus, TheRename
and other programs, I never use Explorer anymore.
TC uses an ini file and does not clobber your registry.
It performs so many additional functions that you can remove
several megs of other programs that are no longer needed.
TC is available at http://www.ghisler.com ,
shareware with one nag screen at startup but fully functional,
works with all Windows (from 3.1 to XP, all 32-bit but the 3.1 version).
No garbage in the registry.


- Dual pane File-management interface
- Integrated compression/decompressions of ZIP, CAB, ARJ, RAR, ACE archives
- Integrated FTP client
- File/Directory/FTP Comparisons and Synchronization's.
- Support for Network and Parallel-port (laplink) Connections.
- Support for connection to other Files Systems like Linux EXT2 and PocketPC.
- Support for SFV/MD5 CRC-checksums Creation/Validation
- Support for File Encoding/Decoding: MIME, UUE, XXE, BinHEX
- Support for File Comments: descript.ion, files.bbs
- Integrated Multi-rename Tool
- Integrated File Viewer (Lister)
- Multi-language interface
- Additional plugins for more Archive, File systems and Lister support

The last version has tabbed interface, like in MyIE2 or Mozilla, very useful.

Pierre.