32 or 64 bit

[marc dunbar]

dumb question, how do I know if I'm running the 32 or 64
bit version of xp home? I'd like to download the LovSan
patch, but not sure which one to download. When I go to
look, it tells me in the system description that I'm
running Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack
1, but nothing to denote 32 or 64?

any help for a very ignorant user?

thanks

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Marc;
You have 32 bit Windows XP.
Also 64 bit is available for Windows XP Pro not Windows XP Home.

Also use the automobile test. (junkers don't count)
Did your computer with Windows XP cost more or less than your
automobile?
If your computer cost less, you have 32 bit.
If your computer cost more, you have 64bit.

Windows XP 64 bit with the required 64bit Intel Itanium processor is
much more expensive than any home computer.

Also see:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
Line 258 Right column "Do you have a 32 or 64..."

--
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http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
http://dts-l.org/index.html


"marc dunbar" > wrote in message
...
> dumb question, how do I know if I'm running the 32 or 64
> bit version of xp home? I'd like to download the LovSan
> patch, but not sure which one to download. When I go to
> look, it tells me in the system description that I'm
> running Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack
> 1, but nothing to denote 32 or 64?
>
> any help for a very ignorant user?
>
> thanks

[Chris Lanier]

Could you guys stop saying they are soooo expensive.

HP workstation zx2000 features & overview
http://www.hp.com/workstations/itanium/zx2000/

Alienware AuroraT Extreme
http://www.alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/aurora_ddr.aspx?SysCode=PC-A51AURORA&SubCode=SKU-EXTREME

One with an Itanium and one with an AMD Althlon XP. One home system, and
one "More than a car cost machine" . Sure these is stilla large difference
in price, but none of the two cost enough to a car (execpt junkers, junkers
do count, you can buy a junker for the price of these computers)

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Marc;
> You have 32 bit Windows XP.
> Also 64 bit is available for Windows XP Pro not Windows XP Home.
>
> Also use the automobile test. (junkers don't count)
> Did your computer with Windows XP cost more or less than your
> automobile?
> If your computer cost less, you have 32 bit.
> If your computer cost more, you have 64bit.
>
> Windows XP 64 bit with the required 64bit Intel Itanium processor is
> much more expensive than any home computer.
>
> Also see:
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
> Line 258 Right column "Do you have a 32 or 64..."
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> http://dts-l.org/index.html
>
>
> "marc dunbar" > wrote in message
> ...
> > dumb question, how do I know if I'm running the 32 or 64
> > bit version of xp home? I'd like to download the LovSan
> > patch, but not sure which one to download. When I go to
> > look, it tells me in the system description that I'm
> > running Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack
> > 1, but nothing to denote 32 or 64?
> >
> > any help for a very ignorant user?
> >
> > thanks
>
>

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Chris;
The Alienware is a bad comparrison. less than $2600.
You choose a pricy manufacturer to begin with.
Power it up with most of the extras and it is still about $1000
cheaper than a cheap 64 bit computer.

Windows XP64bit will add about $400.
Total about $3700 US on the HP 64 bit.
The point is 64bit are way more expensive.
More than 4 times what the typical home user will pay for the
computer.
Next time try to make a fair comparrison.

People that buy computers even getting close to this price will know
they have a 32 bit computer.
Go higher and they know they have a 64 bit computer.

Yes they are "soooo expensive"

--
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An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
http://dts-l.org/index.html


"Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
...
> Could you guys stop saying they are soooo expensive.
>
> HP workstation zx2000 features & overview
> http://www.hp.com/workstations/itanium/zx2000/
>
> Alienware AuroraT Extreme
>
http://www.alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/aurora_ddr.aspx?SysCode=PC-A51AURORA&SubCode=SKU-EXTREME
>
> One with an Itanium and one with an AMD Althlon XP. One home
system, and
> one "More than a car cost machine" . Sure these is stilla large
difference
> in price, but none of the two cost enough to a car (execpt junkers,
junkers
> do count, you can buy a junker for the price of these computers)
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Marc;
> > You have 32 bit Windows XP.
> > Also 64 bit is available for Windows XP Pro not Windows XP Home.
> >
> > Also use the automobile test. (junkers don't count)
> > Did your computer with Windows XP cost more or less than your
> > automobile?
> > If your computer cost less, you have 32 bit.
> > If your computer cost more, you have 64bit.
> >
> > Windows XP 64 bit with the required 64bit Intel Itanium processor
is
> > much more expensive than any home computer.
> >
> > Also see:
> > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
> > Line 258 Right column "Do you have a 32 or 64..."
> >
> > --
> > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> >
> >
> > "marc dunbar" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > dumb question, how do I know if I'm running the 32 or 64
> > > bit version of xp home? I'd like to download the LovSan
> > > patch, but not sure which one to download. When I go to
> > > look, it tells me in the system description that I'm
> > > running Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack
> > > 1, but nothing to denote 32 or 64?
> > >
> > > any help for a very ignorant user?
> > >
> > > thanks
> >
> >
>
>

[Chris Lanier]

Are you also saying regualar home users could not own a laptop from Dell or
somthing? no basic computer user can be intrested in just gaming and not
how Windows works or what they have? Tablets, Desktops, Laptops....

http://www.gateway.com/work/prod/sb_tabletcpcdlxb_proddetail.shtml

http://www.gateway.com/work/prod/sb_600sb_proddetail.shtml

http://www.abspc.com/app/config.asp?mono=1543

More than 10 $2000+ system at pricewatch. again your comparsion is crap.

http://www.pricewatch.com/

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Chris;
> The Alienware is a bad comparrison. less than $2600.
> You choose a pricy manufacturer to begin with.
> Power it up with most of the extras and it is still about $1000
> cheaper than a cheap 64 bit computer.
>
> Windows XP64bit will add about $400.
> Total about $3700 US on the HP 64 bit.
> The point is 64bit are way more expensive.
> More than 4 times what the typical home user will pay for the
> computer.
> Next time try to make a fair comparrison.
>
> People that buy computers even getting close to this price will know
> they have a 32 bit computer.
> Go higher and they know they have a 64 bit computer.
>
> Yes they are "soooo expensive"
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> http://dts-l.org/index.html
>
>
> "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Could you guys stop saying they are soooo expensive.
> >
> > HP workstation zx2000 features & overview
> > http://www.hp.com/workstations/itanium/zx2000/
> >
> > Alienware AuroraT Extreme
> >
>
http://www.alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/aurora_ddr.aspx?SysCode=PC-A51AURORA&SubCode=SKU-EXTREME
> >
> > One with an Itanium and one with an AMD Althlon XP. One home
> system, and
> > one "More than a car cost machine" . Sure these is stilla large
> difference
> > in price, but none of the two cost enough to a car (execpt junkers,
> junkers
> > do count, you can buy a junker for the price of these computers)
> >
> > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Marc;
> > > You have 32 bit Windows XP.
> > > Also 64 bit is available for Windows XP Pro not Windows XP Home.
> > >
> > > Also use the automobile test. (junkers don't count)
> > > Did your computer with Windows XP cost more or less than your
> > > automobile?
> > > If your computer cost less, you have 32 bit.
> > > If your computer cost more, you have 64bit.
> > >
> > > Windows XP 64 bit with the required 64bit Intel Itanium processor
> is
> > > much more expensive than any home computer.
> > >
> > > Also see:
> > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
> > > Line 258 Right column "Do you have a 32 or 64..."
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> > >
> > >
> > > "marc dunbar" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > dumb question, how do I know if I'm running the 32 or 64
> > > > bit version of xp home? I'd like to download the LovSan
> > > > patch, but not sure which one to download. When I go to
> > > > look, it tells me in the system description that I'm
> > > > running Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack
> > > > 1, but nothing to denote 32 or 64?
> > > >
> > > > any help for a very ignorant user?
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[mrtee]

And this page http://www.hp.com/workstations/itanium/index.html gives a =
better explination. Check the notes on the bottom of the page. And =
don't forget your 64 bit software.

--=20
Just my 2=A2 worth,
Jeff
__________in response to__________
"Chris Lanier" > wrote in message =
...
| Could you guys stop saying they are soooo expensive.
|=20
| HP workstation zx2000 features & overview
| http://www.hp.com/workstations/itanium/zx2000/
|=20
| Alienware AuroraT Extreme
| =
http://www.alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/aurora_ddr.aspx?SysCode=3DPC-=
A51AURORA&SubCode=3DSKU-EXTREME
|=20
| One with an Itanium and one with an AMD Althlon XP. One home system, =
and
| one "More than a car cost machine" . Sure these is stilla large =
difference
| in price, but none of the two cost enough to a car (execpt junkers, =
junkers
| do count, you can buy a junker for the price of these computers)

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Links to 64 bit Tablet PC and 64 bit laptops would more support your
point.
Apples and oranges again.

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"Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
...
> Are you also saying regualar home users could not own a laptop from
Dell or
> somthing? no basic computer user can be intrested in just gaming
and not
> how Windows works or what they have? Tablets, Desktops, Laptops....
>
> http://www.gateway.com/work/prod/sb_tabletcpcdlxb_proddetail.shtml
>
> http://www.gateway.com/work/prod/sb_600sb_proddetail.shtml
>
> http://www.abspc.com/app/config.asp?mono=1543
>
> More than 10 $2000+ system at pricewatch. again your comparsion is
crap.
>
> http://www.pricewatch.com/
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Chris;
> > The Alienware is a bad comparrison. less than $2600.
> > You choose a pricy manufacturer to begin with.
> > Power it up with most of the extras and it is still about $1000
> > cheaper than a cheap 64 bit computer.
> >
> > Windows XP64bit will add about $400.
> > Total about $3700 US on the HP 64 bit.
> > The point is 64bit are way more expensive.
> > More than 4 times what the typical home user will pay for the
> > computer.
> > Next time try to make a fair comparrison.
> >
> > People that buy computers even getting close to this price will
know
> > they have a 32 bit computer.
> > Go higher and they know they have a 64 bit computer.
> >
> > Yes they are "soooo expensive"
> >
> > --
> > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> >
> >
> > "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Could you guys stop saying they are soooo expensive.
> > >
> > > HP workstation zx2000 features & overview
> > > http://www.hp.com/workstations/itanium/zx2000/
> > >
> > > Alienware AuroraT Extreme
> > >
> >
>
http://www.alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/aurora_ddr.aspx?SysCode=PC-A51AURORA&SubCode=SKU-EXTREME
> > >
> > > One with an Itanium and one with an AMD Althlon XP. One home
> > system, and
> > > one "More than a car cost machine" . Sure these is stilla large
> > difference
> > > in price, but none of the two cost enough to a car (execpt
junkers,
> > junkers
> > > do count, you can buy a junker for the price of these computers)
> > >
> > > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in
message
> > > ...
> > > > Marc;
> > > > You have 32 bit Windows XP.
> > > > Also 64 bit is available for Windows XP Pro not Windows XP
Home.
> > > >
> > > > Also use the automobile test. (junkers don't count)
> > > > Did your computer with Windows XP cost more or less than your
> > > > automobile?
> > > > If your computer cost less, you have 32 bit.
> > > > If your computer cost more, you have 64bit.
> > > >
> > > > Windows XP 64 bit with the required 64bit Intel Itanium
processor
> > is
> > > > much more expensive than any home computer.
> > > >
> > > > Also see:
> > > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
> > > > Line 258 Right column "Do you have a 32 or 64..."
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > > > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > > >
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > > > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "marc dunbar" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > dumb question, how do I know if I'm running the 32 or 64
> > > > > bit version of xp home? I'd like to download the LovSan
> > > > > patch, but not sure which one to download. When I go to
> > > > > look, it tells me in the system description that I'm
> > > > > running Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack
> > > > > 1, but nothing to denote 32 or 64?
> > > > >
> > > > > any help for a very ignorant user?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Chris Lanier]

I dont really care about all this, i dont have a 64bit nor ever will,
Micrsoft just needs to come up with a good way to identifty this.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Links to 64 bit Tablet PC and 64 bit laptops would more support your
> point.
> Apples and oranges again.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> http://dts-l.org/index.html
>
>
> "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Are you also saying regualar home users could not own a laptop from
> Dell or
> > somthing? no basic computer user can be intrested in just gaming
> and not
> > how Windows works or what they have? Tablets, Desktops, Laptops....
> >
> > http://www.gateway.com/work/prod/sb_tabletcpcdlxb_proddetail.shtml
> >
> > http://www.gateway.com/work/prod/sb_600sb_proddetail.shtml
> >
> > http://www.abspc.com/app/config.asp?mono=1543
> >
> > More than 10 $2000+ system at pricewatch. again your comparsion is
> crap.
> >
> > http://www.pricewatch.com/
> >
> > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Chris;
> > > The Alienware is a bad comparrison. less than $2600.
> > > You choose a pricy manufacturer to begin with.
> > > Power it up with most of the extras and it is still about $1000
> > > cheaper than a cheap 64 bit computer.
> > >
> > > Windows XP64bit will add about $400.
> > > Total about $3700 US on the HP 64 bit.
> > > The point is 64bit are way more expensive.
> > > More than 4 times what the typical home user will pay for the
> > > computer.
> > > Next time try to make a fair comparrison.
> > >
> > > People that buy computers even getting close to this price will
> know
> > > they have a 32 bit computer.
> > > Go higher and they know they have a 64 bit computer.
> > >
> > > Yes they are "soooo expensive"
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> > >
> > >
> > > "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Could you guys stop saying they are soooo expensive.
> > > >
> > > > HP workstation zx2000 features & overview
> > > > http://www.hp.com/workstations/itanium/zx2000/
> > > >
> > > > Alienware AuroraT Extreme
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/aurora_ddr.aspx?SysCode=PC-A51AURORA&SubCode=SKU-EXTREME
> > > >
> > > > One with an Itanium and one with an AMD Althlon XP. One home
> > > system, and
> > > > one "More than a car cost machine" . Sure these is stilla large
> > > difference
> > > > in price, but none of the two cost enough to a car (execpt
> junkers,
> > > junkers
> > > > do count, you can buy a junker for the price of these computers)
> > > >
> > > > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in
> message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Marc;
> > > > > You have 32 bit Windows XP.
> > > > > Also 64 bit is available for Windows XP Pro not Windows XP
> Home.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also use the automobile test. (junkers don't count)
> > > > > Did your computer with Windows XP cost more or less than your
> > > > > automobile?
> > > > > If your computer cost less, you have 32 bit.
> > > > > If your computer cost more, you have 64bit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Windows XP 64 bit with the required 64bit Intel Itanium
> processor
> > > is
> > > > > much more expensive than any home computer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also see:
> > > > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
> > > > > Line 258 Right column "Do you have a 32 or 64..."
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > > > > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > > > >
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > > > > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "marc dunbar" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > dumb question, how do I know if I'm running the 32 or 64
> > > > > > bit version of xp home? I'd like to download the LovSan
> > > > > > patch, but not sure which one to download. When I go to
> > > > > > look, it tells me in the system description that I'm
> > > > > > running Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack
> > > > > > 1, but nothing to denote 32 or 64?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > any help for a very ignorant user?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Perdita X. Nitt]

marc dunbar wrote:
> dumb question, how do I know if I'm running the 32 or 64
> bit version of xp home? I'd like to download the LovSan
> patch, but not sure which one to download. When I go to
> look, it tells me in the system description that I'm
> running Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack
> 1, but nothing to denote 32 or 64?
>
> any help for a very ignorant user?
>
> thanks

By searching the damned group!

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[Perdita X. Nitt]

Chris Lanier wrote:
> I dont really care about all this, i dont have a 64bit nor ever will,
> Micrsoft just needs to come up with a good way to identifty this.


Can't find anything to support your 'argument' can you Christopher?

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[cassisatwit]

Yes, a basic bottom line PC is about 1/4 the price. However, the 64 bit
system is not so pricey that it needs compared to anything, especially a
car. A good gaming rig can run a lot more than the typical 64 bit system. I
would pay the extra for gaming rig since 64 bit computing won't really be
useful to the typical home user anytime soon. The bottom line is that the
price difference isn't so much that it should be used to differentiate
between the OS'es. The splash screen or the system properties will say 64
bit edition if it is, or nothing if it is not.

GiJoe
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Chris;
> The Alienware is a bad comparrison. less than $2600.
> You choose a pricy manufacturer to begin with.
> Power it up with most of the extras and it is still about $1000
> cheaper than a cheap 64 bit computer.
>
> Windows XP64bit will add about $400.
> Total about $3700 US on the HP 64 bit.
> The point is 64bit are way more expensive.
> More than 4 times what the typical home user will pay for the
> computer.
> Next time try to make a fair comparrison.
>
> People that buy computers even getting close to this price will know
> they have a 32 bit computer.
> Go higher and they know they have a 64 bit computer.
>
> Yes they are "soooo expensive"
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> http://dts-l.org/index.html
>
>
> "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Could you guys stop saying they are soooo expensive.
> >
> > HP workstation zx2000 features & overview
> > http://www.hp.com/workstations/itanium/zx2000/
> >
> > Alienware AuroraT Extreme
> >
>
http://www.alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/aurora_ddr.aspx?SysCode=PC-A51AURORA&SubCode=SKU-EXTREME
> >
> > One with an Itanium and one with an AMD Althlon XP. One home
> system, and
> > one "More than a car cost machine" . Sure these is stilla large
> difference
> > in price, but none of the two cost enough to a car (execpt junkers,
> junkers
> > do count, you can buy a junker for the price of these computers)
> >
> > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Marc;
> > > You have 32 bit Windows XP.
> > > Also 64 bit is available for Windows XP Pro not Windows XP Home.
> > >
> > > Also use the automobile test. (junkers don't count)
> > > Did your computer with Windows XP cost more or less than your
> > > automobile?
> > > If your computer cost less, you have 32 bit.
> > > If your computer cost more, you have 64bit.
> > >
> > > Windows XP 64 bit with the required 64bit Intel Itanium processor
> is
> > > much more expensive than any home computer.
> > >
> > > Also see:
> > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
> > > Line 258 Right column "Do you have a 32 or 64..."
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> > >
> > >
> > > "marc dunbar" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > dumb question, how do I know if I'm running the 32 or 64
> > > > bit version of xp home? I'd like to download the LovSan
> > > > patch, but not sure which one to download. When I go to
> > > > look, it tells me in the system description that I'm
> > > > running Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack
> > > > 1, but nothing to denote 32 or 64?
> > > >
> > > > any help for a very ignorant user?
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[SunSpot]

One thing your both missing is that the 64 bit version of XP will NOT run on
an AMD chip, so those computers are not even in the same class.


"Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
...
> I dont really care about all this, i dont have a 64bit nor ever will,
> Micrsoft just needs to come up with a good way to identifty this.
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Links to 64 bit Tablet PC and 64 bit laptops would more support your
> > point.
> > Apples and oranges again.
> >
> > --
> > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> >
> >
> > "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Are you also saying regualar home users could not own a laptop from
> > Dell or
> > > somthing? no basic computer user can be intrested in just gaming
> > and not
> > > how Windows works or what they have? Tablets, Desktops, Laptops....
> > >
> > > http://www.gateway.com/work/prod/sb_tabletcpcdlxb_proddetail.shtml
> > >
> > > http://www.gateway.com/work/prod/sb_600sb_proddetail.shtml
> > >
> > > http://www.abspc.com/app/config.asp?mono=1543
> > >
> > > More than 10 $2000+ system at pricewatch. again your comparsion is
> > crap.
> > >
> > > http://www.pricewatch.com/
> > >
> > > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Chris;
> > > > The Alienware is a bad comparrison. less than $2600.
> > > > You choose a pricy manufacturer to begin with.
> > > > Power it up with most of the extras and it is still about $1000
> > > > cheaper than a cheap 64 bit computer.
> > > >
> > > > Windows XP64bit will add about $400.
> > > > Total about $3700 US on the HP 64 bit.
> > > > The point is 64bit are way more expensive.
> > > > More than 4 times what the typical home user will pay for the
> > > > computer.
> > > > Next time try to make a fair comparrison.
> > > >
> > > > People that buy computers even getting close to this price will
> > know
> > > > they have a 32 bit computer.
> > > > Go higher and they know they have a 64 bit computer.
> > > >
> > > > Yes they are "soooo expensive"
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > > > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > > > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Could you guys stop saying they are soooo expensive.
> > > > >
> > > > > HP workstation zx2000 features & overview
> > > > > http://www.hp.com/workstations/itanium/zx2000/
> > > > >
> > > > > Alienware AuroraT Extreme
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/aurora_ddr.aspx?SysCode=PC-A51AU
RORA&SubCode=SKU-EXTREME
> > > > >
> > > > > One with an Itanium and one with an AMD Althlon XP. One home
> > > > system, and
> > > > > one "More than a car cost machine" . Sure these is stilla large
> > > > difference
> > > > > in price, but none of the two cost enough to a car (execpt
> > junkers,
> > > > junkers
> > > > > do count, you can buy a junker for the price of these computers)
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in
> > message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Marc;
> > > > > > You have 32 bit Windows XP.
> > > > > > Also 64 bit is available for Windows XP Pro not Windows XP
> > Home.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also use the automobile test. (junkers don't count)
> > > > > > Did your computer with Windows XP cost more or less than your
> > > > > > automobile?
> > > > > > If your computer cost less, you have 32 bit.
> > > > > > If your computer cost more, you have 64bit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Windows XP 64 bit with the required 64bit Intel Itanium
> > processor
> > > > is
> > > > > > much more expensive than any home computer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also see:
> > > > > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
> > > > > > Line 258 Right column "Do you have a 32 or 64..."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > > > > > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > > > > >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > > > > > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "marc dunbar" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > dumb question, how do I know if I'm running the 32 or 64
> > > > > > > bit version of xp home? I'd like to download the LovSan
> > > > > > > patch, but not sure which one to download. When I go to
> > > > > > > look, it tells me in the system description that I'm
> > > > > > > running Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack
> > > > > > > 1, but nothing to denote 32 or 64?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > any help for a very ignorant user?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Testy]

"SunSpot" > wrote in message
...
> One thing your both missing is that the 64 bit version of XP will NOT run
on
> an AMD chip, so those computers are not even in the same class.
>
>
> "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I dont really care about all this, i dont have a 64bit nor ever will,
> > Micrsoft just needs to come up with a good way to identifty this.
> >
> > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Links to 64 bit Tablet PC and 64 bit laptops would more support your
> > > point.
> > > Apples and oranges again.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> > >
> > >
> > > "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Are you also saying regualar home users could not own a laptop from
> > > Dell or
> > > > somthing? no basic computer user can be intrested in just gaming
> > > and not
> > > > how Windows works or what they have? Tablets, Desktops, Laptops....
> > > >
> > > > http://www.gateway.com/work/prod/sb_tabletcpcdlxb_proddetail.shtml
> > > >
> > > > http://www.gateway.com/work/prod/sb_600sb_proddetail.shtml
> > > >
> > > > http://www.abspc.com/app/config.asp?mono=1543
> > > >
> > > > More than 10 $2000+ system at pricewatch. again your comparsion is
> > > crap.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.pricewatch.com/
> > > >
> > > > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Chris;
> > > > > The Alienware is a bad comparrison. less than $2600.
> > > > > You choose a pricy manufacturer to begin with.
> > > > > Power it up with most of the extras and it is still about $1000
> > > > > cheaper than a cheap 64 bit computer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Windows XP64bit will add about $400.
> > > > > Total about $3700 US on the HP 64 bit.
> > > > > The point is 64bit are way more expensive.
> > > > > More than 4 times what the typical home user will pay for the
> > > > > computer.
> > > > > Next time try to make a fair comparrison.
> > > > >
> > > > > People that buy computers even getting close to this price will
> > > know
> > > > > they have a 32 bit computer.
> > > > > Go higher and they know they have a 64 bit computer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes they are "soooo expensive"
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > > > > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > > > > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Could you guys stop saying they are soooo expensive.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HP workstation zx2000 features & overview
> > > > > > http://www.hp.com/workstations/itanium/zx2000/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alienware AuroraT Extreme
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/aurora_ddr.aspx?SysCode=PC-A51AU
> RORA&SubCode=SKU-EXTREME
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One with an Itanium and one with an AMD Althlon XP. One home
> > > > > system, and
> > > > > > one "More than a car cost machine" . Sure these is stilla large
> > > > > difference
> > > > > > in price, but none of the two cost enough to a car (execpt
> > > junkers,
> > > > > junkers
> > > > > > do count, you can buy a junker for the price of these computers)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in
> > > message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > Marc;
> > > > > > > You have 32 bit Windows XP.
> > > > > > > Also 64 bit is available for Windows XP Pro not Windows XP
> > > Home.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also use the automobile test. (junkers don't count)
> > > > > > > Did your computer with Windows XP cost more or less than your
> > > > > > > automobile?
> > > > > > > If your computer cost less, you have 32 bit.
> > > > > > > If your computer cost more, you have 64bit.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Windows XP 64 bit with the required 64bit Intel Itanium
> > > processor
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > much more expensive than any home computer.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also see:
> > > > > > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
> > > > > > > Line 258 Right column "Do you have a 32 or 64..."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > > > > > > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > > > > > >
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "marc dunbar" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > dumb question, how do I know if I'm running the 32 or 64
> > > > > > > > bit version of xp home? I'd like to download the LovSan
> > > > > > > > patch, but not sure which one to download. When I go to
> > > > > > > > look, it tells me in the system description that I'm
> > > > > > > > running Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack
> > > > > > > > 1, but nothing to denote 32 or 64?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > any help for a very ignorant user?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


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[SunSpot]

"Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
...
> Could you guys stop saying they are soooo expensive.
>
> HP workstation zx2000 features & overview
> http://www.hp.com/workstations/itanium/zx2000/
>
> Alienware AuroraT Extreme
>
http://www.alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/aurora_ddr.aspx?SysCode=PC-A51AU
RORA&SubCode=SKU-EXTREME

The Alienware computer uses an AMD Athlon processor (32 bit), only the
Opteron is 64 bit,
but you cannot run the 64 pit XP on any AMD chip of any kind so it is not a
good example anyway.


>
> One with an Itanium and one with an AMD Althlon XP. One home system, and
> one "More than a car cost machine" . Sure these is stilla large
difference
> in price, but none of the two cost enough to a car (execpt junkers,
junkers
> do count, you can buy a junker for the price of these computers)
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Marc;
> > You have 32 bit Windows XP.
> > Also 64 bit is available for Windows XP Pro not Windows XP Home.
> >
> > Also use the automobile test. (junkers don't count)
> > Did your computer with Windows XP cost more or less than your
> > automobile?
> > If your computer cost less, you have 32 bit.
> > If your computer cost more, you have 64bit.
> >
> > Windows XP 64 bit with the required 64bit Intel Itanium processor is
> > much more expensive than any home computer.
> >
> > Also see:
> > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
> > Line 258 Right column "Do you have a 32 or 64..."
> >
> > --
> > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> >
> >
> > "marc dunbar" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > dumb question, how do I know if I'm running the 32 or 64
> > > bit version of xp home? I'd like to download the LovSan
> > > patch, but not sure which one to download. When I go to
> > > look, it tells me in the system description that I'm
> > > running Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack
> > > 1, but nothing to denote 32 or 64?
> > >
> > > any help for a very ignorant user?
> > >
> > > thanks
> >
> >
>
>

[SunSpot]

Jupiter, we just purchased several Dell P4 machines and they ran over $4500
each.
Much more expensive then the 64 bit models.
It all depends on what you want.
Chris is correct that the price is no longer a good gauge.



"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Chris;
> The Alienware is a bad comparrison. less than $2600.
> You choose a pricy manufacturer to begin with.
> Power it up with most of the extras and it is still about $1000
> cheaper than a cheap 64 bit computer.
>
> Windows XP64bit will add about $400.
> Total about $3700 US on the HP 64 bit.
> The point is 64bit are way more expensive.
> More than 4 times what the typical home user will pay for the
> computer.
> Next time try to make a fair comparrison.
>
> People that buy computers even getting close to this price will know
> they have a 32 bit computer.
> Go higher and they know they have a 64 bit computer.
>
> Yes they are "soooo expensive"
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> http://dts-l.org/index.html
>
>
> "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Could you guys stop saying they are soooo expensive.
> >
> > HP workstation zx2000 features & overview
> > http://www.hp.com/workstations/itanium/zx2000/
> >
> > Alienware AuroraT Extreme
> >
>
http://www.alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/aurora_ddr.aspx?SysCode=PC-A51AU
RORA&SubCode=SKU-EXTREME
> >
> > One with an Itanium and one with an AMD Althlon XP. One home
> system, and
> > one "More than a car cost machine" . Sure these is stilla large
> difference
> > in price, but none of the two cost enough to a car (execpt junkers,
> junkers
> > do count, you can buy a junker for the price of these computers)
> >
> > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Marc;
> > > You have 32 bit Windows XP.
> > > Also 64 bit is available for Windows XP Pro not Windows XP Home.
> > >
> > > Also use the automobile test. (junkers don't count)
> > > Did your computer with Windows XP cost more or less than your
> > > automobile?
> > > If your computer cost less, you have 32 bit.
> > > If your computer cost more, you have 64bit.
> > >
> > > Windows XP 64 bit with the required 64bit Intel Itanium processor
> is
> > > much more expensive than any home computer.
> > >
> > > Also see:
> > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
> > > Line 258 Right column "Do you have a 32 or 64..."
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> > >
> > >
> > > "marc dunbar" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > dumb question, how do I know if I'm running the 32 or 64
> > > > bit version of xp home? I'd like to download the LovSan
> > > > patch, but not sure which one to download. When I go to
> > > > look, it tells me in the system description that I'm
> > > > running Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack
> > > > 1, but nothing to denote 32 or 64?
> > > >
> > > > any help for a very ignorant user?
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[SunSpot]

Still will not run 64 bit XP.



"Testy" > wrote in message
...
>
> "SunSpot" > wrote in message
> ...
> > One thing your both missing is that the 64 bit version of XP will NOT
run
> on
> > an AMD chip, so those computers are not even in the same class.
> >
> >
> > "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I dont really care about all this, i dont have a 64bit nor ever will,
> > > Micrsoft just needs to come up with a good way to identifty this.
> > >
> > > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Links to 64 bit Tablet PC and 64 bit laptops would more support your
> > > > point.
> > > > Apples and oranges again.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > > > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > > > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Are you also saying regualar home users could not own a laptop
from
> > > > Dell or
> > > > > somthing? no basic computer user can be intrested in just gaming
> > > > and not
> > > > > how Windows works or what they have? Tablets, Desktops,
Laptops....
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.gateway.com/work/prod/sb_tabletcpcdlxb_proddetail.shtml
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.gateway.com/work/prod/sb_600sb_proddetail.shtml
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.abspc.com/app/config.asp?mono=1543
> > > > >
> > > > > More than 10 $2000+ system at pricewatch. again your comparsion
is
> > > > crap.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.pricewatch.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in
message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Chris;
> > > > > > The Alienware is a bad comparrison. less than $2600.
> > > > > > You choose a pricy manufacturer to begin with.
> > > > > > Power it up with most of the extras and it is still about $1000
> > > > > > cheaper than a cheap 64 bit computer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Windows XP64bit will add about $400.
> > > > > > Total about $3700 US on the HP 64 bit.
> > > > > > The point is 64bit are way more expensive.
> > > > > > More than 4 times what the typical home user will pay for the
> > > > > > computer.
> > > > > > Next time try to make a fair comparrison.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > People that buy computers even getting close to this price will
> > > > know
> > > > > > they have a 32 bit computer.
> > > > > > Go higher and they know they have a 64 bit computer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes they are "soooo expensive"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > > > > > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > > > > >
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > > > > > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > Could you guys stop saying they are soooo expensive.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > HP workstation zx2000 features & overview
> > > > > > > http://www.hp.com/workstations/itanium/zx2000/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Alienware AuroraT Extreme
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/aurora_ddr.aspx?SysCode=PC-A51AU
> > RORA&SubCode=SKU-EXTREME
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One with an Itanium and one with an AMD Althlon XP. One home
> > > > > > system, and
> > > > > > > one "More than a car cost machine" . Sure these is stilla
large
> > > > > > difference
> > > > > > > in price, but none of the two cost enough to a car (execpt
> > > > junkers,
> > > > > > junkers
> > > > > > > do count, you can buy a junker for the price of these
computers)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in
> > > > message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > Marc;
> > > > > > > > You have 32 bit Windows XP.
> > > > > > > > Also 64 bit is available for Windows XP Pro not Windows XP
> > > > Home.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also use the automobile test. (junkers don't count)
> > > > > > > > Did your computer with Windows XP cost more or less than
your
> > > > > > > > automobile?
> > > > > > > > If your computer cost less, you have 32 bit.
> > > > > > > > If your computer cost more, you have 64bit.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Windows XP 64 bit with the required 64bit Intel Itanium
> > > > processor
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > much more expensive than any home computer.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also see:
> > > > > > > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
> > > > > > > > Line 258 Right column "Do you have a 32 or 64..."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > > > > > > > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "marc dunbar" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > dumb question, how do I know if I'm running the 32 or 64
> > > > > > > > > bit version of xp home? I'd like to download the LovSan
> > > > > > > > > patch, but not sure which one to download. When I go to
> > > > > > > > > look, it tells me in the system description that I'm
> > > > > > > > > running Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack
> > > > > > > > > 1, but nothing to denote 32 or 64?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > any help for a very ignorant user?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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[SunSpot]

FYI,

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2003/Apr03/04-09AthlonOpteronPR.asp



"Testy" > wrote in message
...
>
> "SunSpot" > wrote in message
> ...
> > One thing your both missing is that the 64 bit version of XP will NOT
run
> on
> > an AMD chip, so those computers are not even in the same class.
> >
> >
> > "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I dont really care about all this, i dont have a 64bit nor ever will,
> > > Micrsoft just needs to come up with a good way to identifty this.
> > >
> > > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Links to 64 bit Tablet PC and 64 bit laptops would more support your
> > > > point.
> > > > Apples and oranges again.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > > > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > > > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Are you also saying regualar home users could not own a laptop
from
> > > > Dell or
> > > > > somthing? no basic computer user can be intrested in just gaming
> > > > and not
> > > > > how Windows works or what they have? Tablets, Desktops,
Laptops....
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.gateway.com/work/prod/sb_tabletcpcdlxb_proddetail.shtml
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.gateway.com/work/prod/sb_600sb_proddetail.shtml
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.abspc.com/app/config.asp?mono=1543
> > > > >
> > > > > More than 10 $2000+ system at pricewatch. again your comparsion
is
> > > > crap.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.pricewatch.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in
message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Chris;
> > > > > > The Alienware is a bad comparrison. less than $2600.
> > > > > > You choose a pricy manufacturer to begin with.
> > > > > > Power it up with most of the extras and it is still about $1000
> > > > > > cheaper than a cheap 64 bit computer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Windows XP64bit will add about $400.
> > > > > > Total about $3700 US on the HP 64 bit.
> > > > > > The point is 64bit are way more expensive.
> > > > > > More than 4 times what the typical home user will pay for the
> > > > > > computer.
> > > > > > Next time try to make a fair comparrison.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > People that buy computers even getting close to this price will
> > > > know
> > > > > > they have a 32 bit computer.
> > > > > > Go higher and they know they have a 64 bit computer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes they are "soooo expensive"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > > > > > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > > > > >
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > > > > > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Chris Lanier" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > Could you guys stop saying they are soooo expensive.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > HP workstation zx2000 features & overview
> > > > > > > http://www.hp.com/workstations/itanium/zx2000/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Alienware AuroraT Extreme
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.alienware.com/Configurator_Pages/aurora_ddr.aspx?SysCode=PC-A51AU
> > RORA&SubCode=SKU-EXTREME
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One with an Itanium and one with an AMD Althlon XP. One home
> > > > > > system, and
> > > > > > > one "More than a car cost machine" . Sure these is stilla
large
> > > > > > difference
> > > > > > > in price, but none of the two cost enough to a car (execpt
> > > > junkers,
> > > > > > junkers
> > > > > > > do count, you can buy a junker for the price of these
computers)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in
> > > > message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > Marc;
> > > > > > > > You have 32 bit Windows XP.
> > > > > > > > Also 64 bit is available for Windows XP Pro not Windows XP
> > > > Home.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also use the automobile test. (junkers don't count)
> > > > > > > > Did your computer with Windows XP cost more or less than
your
> > > > > > > > automobile?
> > > > > > > > If your computer cost less, you have 32 bit.
> > > > > > > > If your computer cost more, you have 64bit.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Windows XP 64 bit with the required 64bit Intel Itanium
> > > > processor
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > much more expensive than any home computer.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also see:
> > > > > > > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
> > > > > > > > Line 258 Right column "Do you have a 32 or 64..."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > > > > > > > An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> > > > > > > > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "marc dunbar" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > dumb question, how do I know if I'm running the 32 or 64
> > > > > > > > > bit version of xp home? I'd like to download the LovSan
> > > > > > > > > patch, but not sure which one to download. When I go to
> > > > > > > > > look, it tells me in the system description that I'm
> > > > > > > > > running Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack
> > > > > > > > > 1, but nothing to denote 32 or 64?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > any help for a very ignorant user?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

To a point maybe.
But did you buy a top of the line 32 bit computer or lower end?
Considering the price, it would appear to be a high end 32 bit.
What is the cost of a high end 64 bit computer?

The average 32 bit computer costs way less than the average 64 bit
computer.
Therefore 64 bit cost more than 32 bit computers.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
http://dts-l.org/index.html


"SunSpot" > wrote in message
...
> Jupiter, we just purchased several Dell P4 machines and they ran
over $4500
> each.
> Much more expensive then the 64 bit models.
> It all depends on what you want.
> Chris is correct that the price is no longer a good gauge.

[SunSpot]

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> To a point maybe.
> But did you buy a top of the line 32 bit computer or lower end?
> Considering the price, it would appear to be a high end 32 bit.
> What is the cost of a high end 64 bit computer?
>
> The average 32 bit computer costs way less than the average 64 bit
> computer.
> Therefore 64 bit cost more than 32 bit computers.

Yes it was a "high" end computer.
No one said the 64 bit did not cost more, "on average".
But even a high end 64 bit machine still costs far less then an automobile.
I have seen some people say "a 64 bit computer would cost at least $10,000
or more"
but this is not true, just as the "automobile test" is not true.
You yourself said junkers do not count, so can you point me to a brand new
car that costs
less then $5000 ?



>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
> http://dts-l.org/index.html
>
>
> "SunSpot" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Jupiter, we just purchased several Dell P4 machines and they ran
> over $4500
> > each.
> > Much more expensive then the 64 bit models.
> > It all depends on what you want.
> > Chris is correct that the price is no longer a good gauge.
>
>

[Only Me]

JUST WHO THE **** DO YOU THINK YOU ARE, BITCH? **** OFF AND GET A LIFE,
PREFERABLY UNDER THE WHEELS OF A BUS.


IGNORANT ****ING COW!