Activate WinXP

[joe]

Why is it necessary to call in for activation everytime after the first
call in?

I was told this when I called do to my stupidity of activating (twice)
before I had a stable system.
I was installing a 160gig HD without a ATA/133 Controller and it worked
(for a week) then went south.
I installed the controller and thought I was stable but a bad printer
driver scrambled the OS and my brain.
I now have what I believe to be a stable system (knock on wood) and had
to call in to register and they told me I now need to call in everytime
I reinstall my OS no more activation over the internet, why is this?


I understand copyright protection and I don't have a problem with that
but this is an annoying feature if in 3-6 months I want to upgrade my MB
or something else.

My question; Is this information true? (activation info not my
stupidity)

[Perdita X. Dream]

joe wrote:
> Why is it necessary to call in for activation everytime after the
> first call in?

It is intended to stop people like you from giving it away to your friends.
If you don't steal software then you have nothing to worry about so shut up.

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[Harry Ohrn]

Check here for info about Windows Product Activation
http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm
If you keep swapping out hardware you may likely have to call. It takes a
few minutes to do this but is part of the price one pays for being in the
very small minority of computer users who like to change systems components
or reinstall their OS on a regular basis. Hey I'm one of those too. But on
the upside it takes much less time to call and activate than it takes to
swap out a motherboard. In the grand scheme of life events it really is only
a minor annoyance . ;-)
--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


"joe" > wrote in message
...
> Why is it necessary to call in for activation everytime after the first
> call in?
>
> I was told this when I called do to my stupidity of activating (twice)
> before I had a stable system.
> I was installing a 160gig HD without a ATA/133 Controller and it worked
> (for a week) then went south.
> I installed the controller and thought I was stable but a bad printer
> driver scrambled the OS and my brain.
> I now have what I believe to be a stable system (knock on wood) and had
> to call in to register and they told me I now need to call in everytime
> I reinstall my OS no more activation over the internet, why is this?
>
>
> I understand copyright protection and I don't have a problem with that
> but this is an annoying feature if in 3-6 months I want to upgrade my MB
> or something else.
>
> My question; Is this information true? (activation info not my
> stupidity)
>

[joe]

Perdita X. Dream wrote:
> joe wrote:
>> Why is it necessary to call in for activation everytime after the
>> first call in?
>
> It is intended to stop people like you from giving it away to your
> friends. If you don't steal software then you have nothing to worry
> about so shut up.

Apparently my stupidity is topped by your inability to read an entire
post. I am not giving it away to my friends, I was overzealous in
activating the OS thinking that I had a stable enivornment, I did not
and now I am being accused of a crime that I did NOT nor contimplate
doing. I stand humbled in your almighty and all knowing presence.

[joe]

Harry Ohrn wrote:
> Check here for info about Windows Product Activation
> http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm
> If you keep swapping out hardware you may likely have to call. It
> takes a few minutes to do this but is part of the price one pays for
> being in the very small minority of computer users who like to change
> systems components or reinstall their OS on a regular basis. Hey I'm
> one of those too. But on the upside it takes much less time to call
> and activate than it takes to swap out a motherboard. In the grand
> scheme of life events it really is only a minor annoyance . ;-)
>

First off I just realized that one could infer from my email address
that I am trolling, for that I apologize it is only a small measure to
stop unwanted spam. If necessary reading my headers will show that I use
OE. I do not have mozilla in any form on my machine.

I have read the url you posted but it talks about 120 days and I believe
(unless I missed it) nothing about calling in now everytime I need to
activate after the first call in. I agree in the grand scheme of
existance it is nothing more than a pebble but non the less it is a
pebble! (most of the time I am barefoot ;-) )



> "joe" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Why is it necessary to call in for activation everytime after the
>> first call in?
>>
>> I was told this when I called do to my stupidity of activating
>> (twice) before I had a stable system.
>> I was installing a 160gig HD without a ATA/133 Controller and it
>> worked (for a week) then went south.
>> I installed the controller and thought I was stable but a bad printer
>> driver scrambled the OS and my brain.
>> I now have what I believe to be a stable system (knock on wood) and
>> had to call in to register and they told me I now need to call in
>> everytime I reinstall my OS no more activation over the internet,
>> why is this?
>>
>>
>> I understand copyright protection and I don't have a problem with
>> that but this is an annoying feature if in 3-6 months I want to
>> upgrade my MB or something else.
>>
>> My question; Is this information true? (activation info not my
>> stupidity)

[Harry Ohrn]

"joe" > wrote in message
...
> Harry Ohrn wrote:
> > Check here for info about Windows Product Activation
> > http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm
> > If you keep swapping out hardware you may likely have to call. It
> > takes a few minutes to do this but is part of the price one pays for
> > being in the very small minority of computer users who like to change
> > systems components or reinstall their OS on a regular basis. Hey I'm
> > one of those too. But on the upside it takes much less time to call
> > and activate than it takes to swap out a motherboard. In the grand
> > scheme of life events it really is only a minor annoyance . ;-)
> >
>
> First off I just realized that one could infer from my email address
> that I am trolling, for that I apologize it is only a small measure to
> stop unwanted spam. If necessary reading my headers will show that I use
> OE. I do not have mozilla in any form on my machine.
>
> I have read the url you posted but it talks about 120 days and I believe
> (unless I missed it) nothing about calling in now everytime I need to
> activate after the first call in. I agree in the grand scheme of
> existance it is nothing more than a pebble but non the less it is a
> pebble! (most of the time I am barefoot ;-) )
>
>
>
Joe I wasn't thinking you were trolling :-)
I haven't heard of it being mandatory to call the Activation Center for
every reinstall however if a product key has been found to be used a
considerable number of times (I don't know how many) to install to systems
with different hardware then MS could easily infer that this product key is
being used for multiple installs to different computers. I suppose that they
could red flag this.
And put some shoes on ;-)


--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp

[Lorne Smith]

Ignore Perdita, Joe... It's not the REAL Perdita but a troll...

"joe" > wrote in message
...
> Perdita X. Dream wrote:
> > joe wrote:
> >> Why is it necessary to call in for activation everytime after the
> >> first call in?
> >
> > It is intended to stop people like you from giving it away to your
> > friends. If you don't steal software then you have nothing to worry
> > about so shut up.
>
> Apparently my stupidity is topped by your inability to read an entire
> post. I am not giving it away to my friends, I was overzealous in
> activating the OS thinking that I had a stable enivornment, I did not
> and now I am being accused of a crime that I did NOT nor contimplate
> doing. I stand humbled in your almighty and all knowing presence.
>

[Lorne Smith]

"joe" > wrote in message
...
> Harry Ohrn wrote:
> > Check here for info about Windows Product Activation
> > http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm
> > If you keep swapping out hardware you may likely have to call. It
> > takes a few minutes to do this but is part of the price one pays for
> > being in the very small minority of computer users who like to change
> > systems components or reinstall their OS on a regular basis. Hey I'm
> > one of those too. But on the upside it takes much less time to call
> > and activate than it takes to swap out a motherboard. In the grand
> > scheme of life events it really is only a minor annoyance . ;-)
> >
>
> First off I just realized that one could infer from my email address
> that I am trolling, for that I apologize it is only a small measure to
> stop unwanted spam. If necessary reading my headers will show that I use
> OE. I do not have mozilla in any form on my machine.
>
> I have read the url you posted but it talks about 120 days and I believe
> (unless I missed it) nothing about calling in now everytime I need to
> activate after the first call in. I agree in the grand scheme of
> existance it is nothing more than a pebble but non the less it is a
> pebble! (most of the time I am barefoot ;-) )
>
>
Ah, well there's your problem you see... XP is well known to be sensitive to
foot odour :)

Seriously though, XP will continue to activate over the internet UNTIL such
time as the number of hardware changes exceeds a set limit (HD formatting
counts towards this as the serial number changes - also, a single mothboard
change can actually count as several changed depending on it's integrated
hardware). Once you hit this limit, telephone activate is required until
120 days after the last time it was activated, then you can return to
internet activation.

Also, as Harry says, I suspect a product key which is used to activate
several significantly different hardware configurations could be construed
as stolen and red flagged...

Lorne

[Alex Nichol]

joe wrote:

>I was told this when I called do to my stupidity of activating (twice)
>before I had a stable system.
>I was installing a 160gig HD without a ATA/133 Controller and it worked
>(for a week) then went south.
>I installed the controller and thought I was stable but a bad printer
>driver scrambled the OS and my brain.
>I now have what I believe to be a stable system (knock on wood) and had
>to call in to register and they told me I now need to call in everytime
>I reinstall my OS no more activation over the internet, why is this?
>
>
>I understand copyright protection and I don't have a problem with that
>but this is an annoying feature if in 3-6 months I want to upgrade my MB
>or something else.

Once 120 days have passed, the record on the site will be expunged and
you will be able to do it again on the net. I am not even sure if what
you were told is correct - the record *ought* to have been updated to
the current hardware position.

If you do a complete format and reinstall, the record on your machine
will have been lost, so you need to activate it again. Normally this
will go through on the net, and even several changes should not make it
essential to do it by phoning - see www.aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm


--=20
Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
Bournemouth, U.K.

[joe]

>> I now have what I believe to be a stable system (knock on wood) and
>> had to call in to register and they told me I now need to call in
>> everytime I reinstall my OS no more activation over the internet,
>> why is this?
>>
>>
>> I understand copyright protection and I don't have a problem with
>> that but this is an annoying feature if in 3-6 months I want to
>> upgrade my MB or something else.
>
> Once 120 days have passed, the record on the site will be expunged and
> you will be able to do it again on the net. I am not even sure if
> what you were told is correct - the record *ought* to have been
> updated to the current hardware position.
>
> If you do a complete format and reinstall, the record on your machine
> will have been lost, so you need to activate it again. Normally this
> will go through on the net, and even several changes should not make
> it essential to do it by phoning - see www.aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm


I understand the 120 day rule I was told during the call in to activate
that the procedure from here on was that I needed to call in to activate
(120 days or not) not by the internet activation but the phone (dial-up
or push button). All this was do to the fact that I needed to call in in
the first place, now the question remains is this accurate information I
recieved or was I mistaken in my listening to the tech who told me this.

Oh, by the way the phone call was approx. 15 min because I got to talk
to someone higher up to voice my concern over this procedure.

Am I the only one required to do this? If so, other than being barefoot
(see other messages) why am I a fortunate being?

After reading this again and thinking (maybe to much) I am wondering if
MS was explaining apples (next 120 days) and I was concerned about
oranges (the rest of my life with XP). I do remember distinctly
mentioning the fact that I still use 95 on my notebook (IBM 701c) and
comparing it to XP as to whether I will need to call in then to activate
it when they no longer support it.

Oh -ell, I am just wondering if anyone has heard of this type of
situation before or if I am just going slowly nuts (like my wife says).

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Joe;
Mostly a guess.
I am sure the slate is clear after 120 days assuming no changes that
require activation.
However the real proof would be in 130 days if a reinstall was
required.
Perhaps they meant if you need to activate in 50 days, then 50 days
again after other changes etc, you will forever need to keep calling
in as the 120 day slate can not be erased in that time frame..
I think you and/or the Microsoft techs misunderstood, but time will
tell.

P.S. ALWAYS listen to your wife (may not always be true what she
says, but for your own welfare listen)

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
http://dts-l.org/index.html


"joe" > wrote in message
news:Lb56b.272953$Oz4.71344@rwcrnsc54...
> I understand the 120 day rule I was told during the call in to
activate
> that the procedure from here on was that I needed to call in to
activate
> (120 days or not) not by the internet activation but the phone
(dial-up
> or push button). All this was do to the fact that I needed to call
in in
> the first place, now the question remains is this accurate
information I
> recieved or was I mistaken in my listening to the tech who told me
this.
>
> Oh, by the way the phone call was approx. 15 min because I got to
talk
> to someone higher up to voice my concern over this procedure.
>
> Am I the only one required to do this? If so, other than being
barefoot
> (see other messages) why am I a fortunate being?
>
> After reading this again and thinking (maybe to much) I am wondering
if
> MS was explaining apples (next 120 days) and I was concerned about
> oranges (the rest of my life with XP). I do remember distinctly
> mentioning the fact that I still use 95 on my notebook (IBM 701c)
and
> comparing it to XP as to whether I will need to call in then to
activate
> it when they no longer support it.
>
> Oh -ell, I am just wondering if anyone has heard of this type of
> situation before or if I am just going slowly nuts (like my wife
says).