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Hennis de Klerk
December 4th 03, 11:43 PM
One of my clients PC's was buggering around so I had to
run a repair, but when the repair has finished it asks me
for the Product Key. Now the clients accidently throw away
the product key, so what can I do to retrieve the Product
key from the Drive.

They registered the Windows so is it possible that
Microsoft can give me the Product Key off their records
from the registration.

Please Help

Regards

Hennis de Klerk

DaViD
December 4th 03, 11:43 PM
phone and ask or by a new copy. You have "clients" and you don't know,
get real.

"Hennis de Klerk" > wrote in message
...
> One of my clients PC's was buggering around so I had to
> run a repair, but when the repair has finished it asks me
> for the Product Key. Now the clients accidently throw away
> the product key, so what can I do to retrieve the Product
> key from the Drive.
>
> They registered the Windows so is it possible that
> Microsoft can give me the Product Key off their records
> from the registration.
>
> Please Help
>
> Regards
>
> Hennis de Klerk

Bruce Chambers
December 4th 03, 11:43 PM
Greetings --

The Windows 25-character Product Key (required to perform the
installation) is stored somewhere on the CD packaging on a bright
orange sticker that says "Do not lose this number." If it was an OEM
(factory installed) license, it's stored on a label that the PC
manufacturer affixed to the exterior of the PC case, or on the bottom
of a laptop.

To recover a lost Product Key:

If it was a retail license and you have proof of purchase:

How to Replace Lost, Broken, or Missing Microsoft Software or Hardware
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;326246

If it was an OEM license, you should contact whomever sold you the
OS; although very few manufacturers/vendors keep records of the
Product Keys they've sold, it's worth a try before you have to buy a
new license.


Bruce Chambers

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"Hennis de Klerk" > wrote in message
...
> One of my clients PC's was buggering around so I had to
> run a repair, but when the repair has finished it asks me
> for the Product Key. Now the clients accidently throw away
> the product key, so what can I do to retrieve the Product
> key from the Drive.
>
> They registered the Windows so is it possible that
> Microsoft can give me the Product Key off their records
> from the registration.
>
> Please Help
>
> Regards
>
> Hennis de Klerk

Harry Ohrn
December 4th 03, 11:43 PM
Microsoft does not keep a record of Product Keys when one registers however
you can contact Microsoft and if you can provide proof of purchase they will
provide you with a new product key through Product Support Services (PSS)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-US;CNTACTMS
There may be an nominal fee for doing this.
--

Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
www.webtree.ca/newlife/


"Hennis de Klerk" > wrote in message
...
> One of my clients PC's was buggering around so I had to
> run a repair, but when the repair has finished it asks me
> for the Product Key. Now the clients accidently throw away
> the product key, so what can I do to retrieve the Product
> key from the Drive.
>
> They registered the Windows so is it possible that
> Microsoft can give me the Product Key off their records
> from the registration.
>
> Please Help
>
> Regards
>
> Hennis de Klerk

Bugsbyte
December 4th 03, 11:44 PM
This program will show PK# for WinXP and OfficeXP
http://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder.shtml

"Hennis de Klerk" > wrote in message
...
> One of my clients PC's was buggering around so I had to
> run a repair, but when the repair has finished it asks me
> for the Product Key. Now the clients accidently throw away
> the product key, so what can I do to retrieve the Product
> key from the Drive.
>
> They registered the Windows so is it possible that
> Microsoft can give me the Product Key off their records
> from the registration.
>
> Please Help
>
> Regards
>
> Hennis de Klerk

Harry Ohrn
December 4th 03, 11:44 PM
He reinstalled XP and then got to the screen asking for the product key. It
is too late to use the viewer as he can't boot to the Desktop now.

That being said people who fix computers for a living know that they will
need to enter the product key sooner or later during a Windows XP install
so he should have had that together before he tried the install.

--

Harry Ohrn - MS MVP (Windows Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/
www.webtree.ca/newlife/


"Bugsbyte" > wrote in message
.. .
> This program will show PK# for WinXP and OfficeXP
> http://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder.shtml
>
> "Hennis de Klerk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > One of my clients PC's was buggering around so I had to
> > run a repair, but when the repair has finished it asks me
> > for the Product Key. Now the clients accidently throw away
> > the product key, so what can I do to retrieve the Product
> > key from the Drive.
> >
> > They registered the Windows so is it possible that
> > Microsoft can give me the Product Key off their records
> > from the registration.
> >
> > Please Help
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Hennis de Klerk
>
>

Newt
December 4th 03, 11:46 PM
<One of my Clients>
Hahahahahahah!!
translates as "I have a pirate copy of, and want to install it, please
'give' me any PK# that will work"
If you have a 'clients' pc then you shouldve done the groundwork b4hand.
i.e. looked in registry for PK#, oops sorry giving too much away.........

Pyromite78
December 4th 03, 11:47 PM
What the hell is your client doing using Windows XP Home anyway? XP Pro is
better and if you really can't find the product key.. don't be a dumb ass..
just go on Kazaa or any file share program and download the Corp version of
XP Pro... I mean if your going to be a pirate at least don't be douche bag
enough to post a dumb ass question like that when you KNOW you are going to
get flamed... my advice.. get out of the IT industry now. It's idiots like
you that are sucking up all the good IT job's for people like us (people who
know what they are doing and enjoy it) who actually are in it because we
like doing it and not necessarily for the money.

Alex Nichol
December 4th 03, 11:47 PM
Hennis de Klerk wrote:

>One of my clients PC's was buggering around so I had to
>run a repair, but when the repair has finished it asks me
>for the Product Key. Now the clients accidently throw away
>the product key, so what can I do to retrieve the Product
>key from the Drive.
>
>They registered the Windows so is it possible that
>Microsoft can give me the Product Key off their records
>from the registration.

The registration records do not include the Key - only the deduced
Product ID. Provided the drive has not been reformatted and windows can
be loaded, then get the free Aida 32, enterprise edition from
http://www.aida32.hu/aida-download.php?bit=32
which is an excellent general System Info tool, and its Software -
Licenses page will tell you the one used for Windows and ones for
several other items.

Note that if the machine came with XP installed, this will probably give
a key used in producing an original image, then cloned to all machines
they make. So it is not the one for a reinstall. But then the key will
be on a label on the case of the machine

And as a comment I find it extraordinary how many people ignore a clear
printed 'Do not Lose this Number'


--
Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows - File Systems)
Bournemouth, U.K.

irene1964
March 7th 06, 11:43 PM
Hennis de Klerk wrote:

One of my clients PC's was buggering around so I had to
run a repair, but when the repair has finished it asks me
for the Product Key. Now the clients accidently throw away
the product key, so what can I do to retrieve the Product
key from the Drive.

They registered the Windows so is it possible that
Microsoft can give me the Product Key off their records
from the registration.

The registration records do not include the Key - only the deduced
Product ID. Provided the drive has not been reformatted and windows can
be loaded, then get the free Aida 32, enterprise edition from
http://www.aida32.hu/aida-download.php?bit=32
which is an excellent general System Info tool, and its Software -
Licenses page will tell you the one used for Windows and ones for
several other items.

Note that if the machine came with XP installed, this will probably give
a key used in producing an original image, then cloned to all machines
they make. So it is not the one for a reinstall. But then the key will
be on a label on the case of the machine

And as a comment I find it extraordinary how many people ignore a clear
printed 'Do not Lose this Number'


--
Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows - File Systems)
Bournemouth, U.K.

if any one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.

Jupiter Jones [MVP]
March 8th 06, 01:28 AM
It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you would give
away something worth about $100.

Also, you quoted a very old post.
Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he posted
recently.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"irene1964" > wrote in message > if any one
wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
> i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.
>
>
>
> --
> irene1964

Ken Blake, MVP
March 8th 06, 01:50 AM
Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

> It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
> would give away something worth about $100.
>
> Also, you quoted a very old post.
> Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
> posted recently.


That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short of the
first anniversary of his death.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



> "irene1964" > wrote in message > if any
> one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
>> i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> irene1964

irene1964
March 8th 06, 10:11 AM
Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
would give away something worth about $100.

Also, you quoted a very old post.
Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
posted recently.


That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short of the
first anniversary of his death.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



"irene1964" wrote in message if any
one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.



--
irene1964
"i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely offering people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the matter? is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round making money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE. and if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police! i havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!! have a good day.

Butch
March 8th 06, 02:30 PM
"irene1964" > wrote in message
...
>
> Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>>
>> It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
>> would give away something worth about $100.
>>
>> Also, you quoted a very old post.
>> Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
>> posted recently.
>>
>>
>> That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short of
>> the
>> first anniversary of his death.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>> Please reply to the newsgroup
>>
>>
>>
>> "irene1964" wrote in message if any
>> one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
>> i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> irene1964
> "i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely offering
> people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the matter?
> is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of
> charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
> product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
> person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round making
> money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE. and
> if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police! i
> havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!! have
> a good day.
>
>
> --
> irene1964

Hi , Irene1964
That key that you're talking about, Is only for "your" p-c... "Your copy
of X-P" If you give that out,
Which you are suggesting.....May render your key
worthless.....Becareful................Butch

Jupiter Jones [MVP]
March 8th 06, 04:31 PM
Irene;
Since the Product Key is affixed to the side of the computer, it is OEM.
You can only give the key to one person and you also need to give them the
computer, Windows XP CD (if applicable) etc or the key is worthless.
Just about anything else and you violate the EULA.

And yes, it is true:
http://aumha.org/a/alexpix.php

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"irene1964" > wrote in message
...
>
> Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
> "i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely offering
> people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the matter?
> is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of
> charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
> product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
> person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round making
> money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE. and
> if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police! i
> havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!! have
> a good day.
>
>
> --
> irene1964

Harry Ohrn
March 8th 06, 05:14 PM
"irene1964" > wrote in message
...
>
> Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>>
>> It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
>> would give away something worth about $100.
>>
>> Also, you quoted a very old post.
>> Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
>> posted recently.
>>
>>
>> That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short of
>> the
>> first anniversary of his death.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>> Please reply to the newsgroup
>>
>>
>>
>> "irene1964" wrote in message if any
>> one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
>> i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> irene1964
> "i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely offering
> people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the matter?
> is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of
> charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
> product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
> person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round making
> money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE. and
> if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police! i
> havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!! have
> a good day.
>
>
> --
> irene1964

Irene the key is no good to anyone unless you also give or sell them the
computer. The product key you have can only be used with computer that it
came with and is not transferable without the computer. This is by
arrangement between Microsoft and the company that installed the software.
It is called an OEM or Original Equipment Manufacturer license agreement.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp

irene1964
March 8th 06, 09:11 PM
"irene1964" wrote in message
...

Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
would give away something worth about $100.

Also, you quoted a very old post.
Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
posted recently.


That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short of
the
first anniversary of his death.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



"irene1964" wrote in message if any
one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.



--
irene1964
"i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely offering
people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the matter?
is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of
charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round making
money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE. and
if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police! i
havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!! have
a good day.


--
irene1964

Irene the key is no good to anyone unless you also give or sell them the
computer. The product key you have can only be used with computer that it
came with and is not transferable without the computer. This is by
arrangement between Microsoft and the company that installed the software.
It is called an OEM or Original Equipment Manufacturer license agreement.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp

i posted a thread not so long ago... excuse me for posting it via you.. but only just joined so i am not familiar with this thread.. but still trying.. any way posted a thread not so long ago offering free of charge the product key for win xp.. obviously without realizing i have done something wrong.. god no's why????? there only a load of letters??? what harm am i doing??? its only to help those who really have lost there product key! some of us aint the brightest spanner in the works!! u no.. and we dont realize, we all make mistakes. so please do not email for what i thought was helping, but apparently im a violating something.. i appolige.. this message is for every one concerned.

irene1964
March 8th 06, 09:18 PM
i posted a thread not so long ago... excuse me for posting it via you.. but only just joined so i am not familiar with this thread.. but still trying.. any way posted a thread not so long ago offering free of charge the product key for win xp.. obviously without realizing i have done something wrong.. god no's why????? there only a load of letters??? what harm am i doing??? its only to help those who really have lost there product key! some of us aint the brightest spanner in the works!! u no.. and we dont realize, we all make mistakes. so please do not email for what i thought was helping, but apparently im a violating something.. i appolige.. this message is for every one concerned.
sorry i mean appologise...

jll
March 9th 06, 12:41 AM
Not so. I bought a copy of XP Home upgrade for my wife's W98 machine. For
some reason, it would not accept the product key (I bought it at Best Buy!).
Rather than taking it back, I tried the key listed on the side of my Dell.
It took. Her machine is a Gateway. Hopefully, I won't need it. But if it
comes to that, I'll try the one that came on the upgrade. Otherwise, I'll
think of something.
jll
"Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
...
> "irene1964" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
>>> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>>>
>>> It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
>>> would give away something worth about $100.
>>>
>>> Also, you quoted a very old post.
>>> Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
>>> posted recently.
>>>
>>>
>>> That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short of
>>> the
>>> first anniversary of his death.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>>> Please reply to the newsgroup
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "irene1964" wrote in message if any
>>> one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
>>> i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> irene1964
>> "i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely offering
>> people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the matter?
>> is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of
>> charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
>> product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
>> person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round making
>> money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE. and
>> if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police! i
>> havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!! have
>> a good day.
>>
>>
>> --
>> irene1964
>
> Irene the key is no good to anyone unless you also give or sell them the
> computer. The product key you have can only be used with computer that it
> came with and is not transferable without the computer. This is by
> arrangement between Microsoft and the company that installed the software.
> It is called an OEM or Original Equipment Manufacturer license agreement.
>
> --
>
> Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
>
>
>

Harry Ohrn
March 9th 06, 02:55 AM
"irene1964" > wrote in message
...
>
> Harry Ohrn Wrote:
>> "irene1964" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>>
>> It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
>> would give away something worth about $100.
>>
>> Also, you quoted a very old post.
>> Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
>> posted recently.
>>
>>
>> That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short of
>> the
>> first anniversary of his death.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>> Please reply to the newsgroup
>>
>>
>>
>> "irene1964" wrote in message if any
>> one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
>> i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> irene1964
>> "i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely
>> offering
>> people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the
>> matter?
>> is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of
>> charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
>> product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
>> person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round
>> making
>> money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE.
>> and
>> if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police!
>> i
>> havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!!
>> have
>> a good day.
>>
>>
>> --
>> irene1964
>>
>> Irene the key is no good to anyone unless you also give or sell them
>> the
>> computer. The product key you have can only be used with computer that
>> it
>> came with and is not transferable without the computer. This is by
>> arrangement between Microsoft and the company that installed the
>> software.
>> It is called an OEM or Original Equipment Manufacturer license
>> agreement.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
>> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
>
> i posted a thread not so long ago... excuse me for posting it via
> you.. but only just joined so i am not familiar with this thread.. but
> still trying.. any way posted a thread not so long ago offering free of
> charge the product key for win xp.. obviously without realizing i have
> done something wrong.. god no's why????? there only a load of
> letters??? what harm am i doing??? its only to help those who really
> have lost there product key! some of us aint the brightest spanner in
> the works!! u no.. and we dont realize, we all make mistakes. so please
> do not email for what i thought was helping, but apparently im a
> violating something.. i appolige.. this message is for every one
> concerned.
>
>
> --
> irene1964

I realize that you were trying to be helpful. However, as you now know, it
is not legal for you to offer a Product Key, even for free unless the
license agreement for the software says you can do so. In the future you
should check to ensure that what you are doing is OK before you offer it up.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp

Jupiter Jones [MVP]
March 9th 06, 04:22 AM
Actually it is so.
Read the EULA you already agreed.
Whether it can be done is one thing, but it is another if you intend to
abide by what has already been agreed.
The clue to your circumstance is that the upgrade key did not work with the
upgrade CD.
Now either something was wrong with the key or you read it wrong and that
particular key was intended for OEM.
Or possibly the CD was mis-marked.
A Retail upgrade CD will not work with the OEM key unless something else is
wrong as is evidenced by the upgrade key not working with the upgrade CD.

What did Microsoft say when you asked them why the key did not work?
If you did not ask, you should do so soon since you may be denied activation
at a later date.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"jll" > wrote in message
news:aRKPf.12124$oL.10611@attbi_s71...
> Not so. I bought a copy of XP Home upgrade for my wife's W98 machine. For
> some reason, it would not accept the product key (I bought it at Best
> Buy!). Rather than taking it back, I tried the key listed on the side of
> my Dell. It took. Her machine is a Gateway. Hopefully, I won't need it.
> But if it comes to that, I'll try the one that came on the upgrade.
> Otherwise, I'll think of something.
> jll
> "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "irene1964" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
>>>> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
>>>> would give away something worth about $100.
>>>>
>>>> Also, you quoted a very old post.
>>>> Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
>>>> posted recently.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short of
>>>> the
>>>> first anniversary of his death.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "irene1964" wrote in message if any
>>>> one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
>>>> i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> irene1964
>>> "i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely offering
>>> people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the matter?
>>> is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of
>>> charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
>>> product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
>>> person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round making
>>> money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE. and
>>> if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police! i
>>> havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!! have
>>> a good day.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> irene1964
>>
>> Irene the key is no good to anyone unless you also give or sell them the
>> computer. The product key you have can only be used with computer that it
>> came with and is not transferable without the computer. This is by
>> arrangement between Microsoft and the company that installed the
>> software. It is called an OEM or Original Equipment Manufacturer license
>> agreement.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
>> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Phil Weldon
March 9th 06, 05:46 AM
'Jupiter Jones' writing a lot, but thinking little, wrote:
| Actually it is so.
| Read the EULA you already agreed.
| Whether it can be done is one thing, but it is another if you intend to
| abide by what has already been agreed.
| The clue to your circumstance is that the upgrade key did not work with
the
| upgrade CD.
| Now either something was wrong with the key or you read it wrong and that
| particular key was intended for OEM.
| Or possibly the CD was mis-marked.
| A Retail upgrade CD will not work with the OEM key unless something else
is
| wrong as is evidenced by the upgrade key not working with the upgrade CD.
|
| What did Microsoft say when you asked them why the key did not work?
| If you did not ask, you should do so soon since you may be denied
activation
| at a later date.
_____

What a terribly unhelpful answer. Think twice, post once.
Not having all the details, you assumed, and went downhill from there.

Phil Weldon

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
| Actually it is so.
| Read the EULA you already agreed.
| Whether it can be done is one thing, but it is another if you intend to
| abide by what has already been agreed.
| The clue to your circumstance is that the upgrade key did not work with
the
| upgrade CD.
| Now either something was wrong with the key or you read it wrong and that
| particular key was intended for OEM.
| Or possibly the CD was mis-marked.
| A Retail upgrade CD will not work with the OEM key unless something else
is
| wrong as is evidenced by the upgrade key not working with the upgrade CD.
|
| What did Microsoft say when you asked them why the key did not work?
| If you did not ask, you should do so soon since you may be denied
activation
| at a later date.
|
| --
| Jupiter Jones [MVP]
| http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
| http://www.dts-l.org
|
|
| "jll" > wrote in message
| news:aRKPf.12124$oL.10611@attbi_s71...
| > Not so. I bought a copy of XP Home upgrade for my wife's W98 machine.
For
| > some reason, it would not accept the product key (I bought it at Best
| > Buy!). Rather than taking it back, I tried the key listed on the side of
| > my Dell. It took. Her machine is a Gateway. Hopefully, I won't need it.
| > But if it comes to that, I'll try the one that came on the upgrade.
| > Otherwise, I'll think of something.
| > jll
| > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
| > ...
| >> "irene1964" > wrote in message
| >> ...
| >>>
| >>> Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
| >>>> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
| >>>>
| >>>> It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
| >>>> would give away something worth about $100.
| >>>>
| >>>> Also, you quoted a very old post.
| >>>> Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
| >>>> posted recently.
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>> That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short of
| >>>> the
| >>>> first anniversary of his death.
| >>>>
| >>>> --
| >>>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
| >>>> Please reply to the newsgroup
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>> "irene1964" wrote in message if any
| >>>> one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
| >>>> i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>> --
| >>>> irene1964
| >>> "i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely offering
| >>> people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the matter?
| >>> is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of
| >>> charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
| >>> product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
| >>> person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round
making
| >>> money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE. and
| >>> if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police!
i
| >>> havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!!
have
| >>> a good day.
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> --
| >>> irene1964
| >>
| >> Irene the key is no good to anyone unless you also give or sell them
the
| >> computer. The product key you have can only be used with computer that
it
| >> came with and is not transferable without the computer. This is by
| >> arrangement between Microsoft and the company that installed the
| >> software. It is called an OEM or Original Equipment Manufacturer
license
| >> agreement.
| >>
| >> --
| >>
| >> Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
| >> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|

Chuck
March 9th 06, 06:28 AM
All off this aside, the referenced software just identified the keys already
present on a system. Besides that, the referenced website is closed (as of
Dec. 05)

As far as an upgrade cd not updating an OEM install, I'd find that hard to
believe. It would be one of the dumbest moves Microsoft ever made. Think of
the Office Depot, Staples, and Best Buy nightmares that would result. The
last time I tried this, it did work, provided that you had a valid key or
CD. In some cases, it was necessary to call the OEM with the original key in
hand, in order to get a new (Valid) key. This might have been because the
machine key was not the key actually used by the OEM to do the original
install, and the Key Stamp did not agree with the OEM install key. Gateway
and Dell did this sort of thing in the past by using a bulk distribution key
to install the same image on hundreds of PC's.

It's gotten to the point that some companies buy PC's accompanied with a
corporate license. The PC's key(s) are changed on receipt to the corporate
key(s), even though the PC's came with an individual key stamp on them and
windows installed. Seems that the PC OEM decided that it was cheaper to do
things this way than to change the production process for a relatively few
PC's.

Another odd area was laptops, PC's, and the government. Some government
people are permitted to use the same licensed copy of software on a
government licensed PC and a personally owned PC. This used to also include
encryption software that was illegal to take out of the country, unless you
had an export license or were a direct government employee.

There are keys that can be obtained directly from Microsoft, usually
associated with some sort of development environment. These keys do not
usually behave as a normal retail or OEM key would when the activation
process occurs. I'd guess that they are some sort of multi-user key. Some
time ago, when I was more active in the development field, I had a personal
key set assigned for various systems and applications. (These have expired,
and are no longer valid for new installs) Two years or so ago, one key
that I have (obtained from this process) was supposedly compromised. A call
to the appropriate Microsoft support number produced a new same type valid
replacement key within a few minutes. Since the
validation/verification/activation process seems to be a bit fluid, who
knows what will happen in the future. Somehow, I suspect that a future
"mandatory upgrade" will effectively lock a windows copy to the system it is
currently running. Undoubtedly, the "upgrade" will contain a EULA revision
that covers the change.

The "third world" being what it is, any method/scheme used will be broken
shortly after it's implementation. I suppose increased law enforcement on a
global scale may eventually make a dent in the underground industry.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Actually it is so.
> Read the EULA you already agreed.
> Whether it can be done is one thing, but it is another if you intend to
> abide by what has already been agreed.
> The clue to your circumstance is that the upgrade key did not work with
the
> upgrade CD.
> Now either something was wrong with the key or you read it wrong and that
> particular key was intended for OEM.
> Or possibly the CD was mis-marked.
> A Retail upgrade CD will not work with the OEM key unless something else
is
> wrong as is evidenced by the upgrade key not working with the upgrade CD.
>
> What did Microsoft say when you asked them why the key did not work?
> If you did not ask, you should do so soon since you may be denied
activation
> at a later date.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "jll" > wrote in message
> news:aRKPf.12124$oL.10611@attbi_s71...
> > Not so. I bought a copy of XP Home upgrade for my wife's W98 machine.
For
> > some reason, it would not accept the product key (I bought it at Best
> > Buy!). Rather than taking it back, I tried the key listed on the side of
> > my Dell. It took. Her machine is a Gateway. Hopefully, I won't need it.
> > But if it comes to that, I'll try the one that came on the upgrade.
> > Otherwise, I'll think of something.
> > jll
> > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> "irene1964" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>>
> >>> Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
> >>>> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
> >>>> would give away something worth about $100.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, you quoted a very old post.
> >>>> Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
> >>>> posted recently.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short of
> >>>> the
> >>>> first anniversary of his death.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> >>>> Please reply to the newsgroup
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "irene1964" wrote in message if any
> >>>> one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
> >>>> i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> irene1964
> >>> "i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely offering
> >>> people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the matter?
> >>> is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of
> >>> charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
> >>> product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
> >>> person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round
making
> >>> money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE. and
> >>> if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police!
i
> >>> havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!!
have
> >>> a good day.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> irene1964
> >>
> >> Irene the key is no good to anyone unless you also give or sell them
the
> >> computer. The product key you have can only be used with computer that
it
> >> came with and is not transferable without the computer. This is by
> >> arrangement between Microsoft and the company that installed the
> >> software. It is called an OEM or Original Equipment Manufacturer
license
> >> agreement.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
> >> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Jupiter Jones [MVP]
March 9th 06, 07:13 AM
Chuck
What referenced website?
I never said an upgrade CD would not upgrade an OEM.
But the upgrade CD should not accept the OEM key affixed to the computer.
Since the upgrade was bought at Best Buy, the upgrade is Retail.
OEM and Retail alone make them incompatible, as well as the key affixed to
the computer would be for the full version while the CD is an Upgrade which
also makes the different key incompatible.

It seems from Jlls post, an upgrade CD accepted an OEM key affixed to the
computer "I tried the key listed on the side of my Dell. It took."
If everything is correct, that will not work.
As I already suggested Jll should attempt to resolve this to prevent future
activation problems.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Chuck" > wrote in message
...
> All off this aside, the referenced software just identified the keys
> already
> present on a system. Besides that, the referenced website is closed (as of
> Dec. 05)
>
> As far as an upgrade cd not updating an OEM install, I'd find that hard to
> believe. It would be one of the dumbest moves Microsoft ever made. Think
> of
> the Office Depot, Staples, and Best Buy nightmares that would result. The
> last time I tried this, it did work, provided that you had a valid key or
> CD. In some cases, it was necessary to call the OEM with the original key
> in
> hand, in order to get a new (Valid) key. This might have been because the
> machine key was not the key actually used by the OEM to do the original
> install, and the Key Stamp did not agree with the OEM install key. Gateway
> and Dell did this sort of thing in the past by using a bulk distribution
> key
> to install the same image on hundreds of PC's.
>
> It's gotten to the point that some companies buy PC's accompanied with a
> corporate license. The PC's key(s) are changed on receipt to the corporate
> key(s), even though the PC's came with an individual key stamp on them and
> windows installed. Seems that the PC OEM decided that it was cheaper to do
> things this way than to change the production process for a relatively few
> PC's.
>
> Another odd area was laptops, PC's, and the government. Some government
> people are permitted to use the same licensed copy of software on a
> government licensed PC and a personally owned PC. This used to also
> include
> encryption software that was illegal to take out of the country, unless
> you
> had an export license or were a direct government employee.
>
> There are keys that can be obtained directly from Microsoft, usually
> associated with some sort of development environment. These keys do not
> usually behave as a normal retail or OEM key would when the activation
> process occurs. I'd guess that they are some sort of multi-user key. Some
> time ago, when I was more active in the development field, I had a
> personal
> key set assigned for various systems and applications. (These have
> expired,
> and are no longer valid for new installs) Two years or so ago, one key
> that I have (obtained from this process) was supposedly compromised. A
> call
> to the appropriate Microsoft support number produced a new same type valid
> replacement key within a few minutes. Since the
> validation/verification/activation process seems to be a bit fluid, who
> knows what will happen in the future. Somehow, I suspect that a future
> "mandatory upgrade" will effectively lock a windows copy to the system it
> is
> currently running. Undoubtedly, the "upgrade" will contain a EULA revision
> that covers the change.
>
> The "third world" being what it is, any method/scheme used will be broken
> shortly after it's implementation. I suppose increased law enforcement on
> a
> global scale may eventually make a dent in the underground industry.
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Actually it is so.
>> Read the EULA you already agreed.
>> Whether it can be done is one thing, but it is another if you intend to
>> abide by what has already been agreed.
>> The clue to your circumstance is that the upgrade key did not work with
> the
>> upgrade CD.
>> Now either something was wrong with the key or you read it wrong and that
>> particular key was intended for OEM.
>> Or possibly the CD was mis-marked.
>> A Retail upgrade CD will not work with the OEM key unless something else
> is
>> wrong as is evidenced by the upgrade key not working with the upgrade CD.
>>
>> What did Microsoft say when you asked them why the key did not work?
>> If you did not ask, you should do so soon since you may be denied
> activation
>> at a later date.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>>
>> "jll" > wrote in message
>> news:aRKPf.12124$oL.10611@attbi_s71...
>> > Not so. I bought a copy of XP Home upgrade for my wife's W98 machine.
> For
>> > some reason, it would not accept the product key (I bought it at Best
>> > Buy!). Rather than taking it back, I tried the key listed on the side
>> > of
>> > my Dell. It took. Her machine is a Gateway. Hopefully, I won't need it.
>> > But if it comes to that, I'll try the one that came on the upgrade.
>> > Otherwise, I'll think of something.
>> > jll
>> > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> "irene1964" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>>
>> >>> Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
>> >>>> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
>> >>>> would give away something worth about $100.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Also, you quoted a very old post.
>> >>>> Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
>> >>>> posted recently.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> first anniversary of his death.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>> >>>> Please reply to the newsgroup
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "irene1964" wrote in message if any
>> >>>> one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
>> >>>> i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> irene1964
>> >>> "i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely
>> >>> offering
>> >>> people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the
>> >>> matter?
>> >>> is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of
>> >>> charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
>> >>> product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
>> >>> person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round
> making
>> >>> money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE.
>> >>> and
>> >>> if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police!
> i
>> >>> havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!!
> have
>> >>> a good day.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> irene1964
>> >>
>> >> Irene the key is no good to anyone unless you also give or sell them
> the
>> >> computer. The product key you have can only be used with computer that
> it
>> >> came with and is not transferable without the computer. This is by
>> >> arrangement between Microsoft and the company that installed the
>> >> software. It is called an OEM or Original Equipment Manufacturer
> license
>> >> agreement.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
>> >> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Jupiter Jones [MVP]
March 9th 06, 07:18 AM
See my post to chuck.
As I have already suggested, Jll should resolve this before there are future
problems.
No one here can resolve this for Jll

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Phil Weldon" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>
> What a terribly unhelpful answer. Think twice, post once.
> Not having all the details, you assumed, and went downhill from there.
>
> Phil Weldon

Chuck
March 9th 06, 06:00 PM
Referenced in the beginning of the thread (Not by me.)
http://www.aida32.hu/aida-download.php?bit=32

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Chuck
> What referenced website?
> I never said an upgrade CD would not upgrade an OEM.
> But the upgrade CD should not accept the OEM key affixed to the computer.
> Since the upgrade was bought at Best Buy, the upgrade is Retail.
> OEM and Retail alone make them incompatible, as well as the key affixed to
> the computer would be for the full version while the CD is an Upgrade
which
> also makes the different key incompatible.
>
> It seems from Jlls post, an upgrade CD accepted an OEM key affixed to the
> computer "I tried the key listed on the side of my Dell. It took."
> If everything is correct, that will not work.
> As I already suggested Jll should attempt to resolve this to prevent
future
> activation problems.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Chuck" > wrote in message
> ...
> > All off this aside, the referenced software just identified the keys
> > already
> > present on a system. Besides that, the referenced website is closed (as
of
> > Dec. 05)
> >
> > As far as an upgrade cd not updating an OEM install, I'd find that hard
to
> > believe. It would be one of the dumbest moves Microsoft ever made. Think
> > of
> > the Office Depot, Staples, and Best Buy nightmares that would result.
The
> > last time I tried this, it did work, provided that you had a valid key
or
> > CD. In some cases, it was necessary to call the OEM with the original
key
> > in
> > hand, in order to get a new (Valid) key. This might have been because
the
> > machine key was not the key actually used by the OEM to do the original
> > install, and the Key Stamp did not agree with the OEM install key.
Gateway
> > and Dell did this sort of thing in the past by using a bulk distribution
> > key
> > to install the same image on hundreds of PC's.
> >
> > It's gotten to the point that some companies buy PC's accompanied with a
> > corporate license. The PC's key(s) are changed on receipt to the
corporate
> > key(s), even though the PC's came with an individual key stamp on them
and
> > windows installed. Seems that the PC OEM decided that it was cheaper to
do
> > things this way than to change the production process for a relatively
few
> > PC's.
> >
> > Another odd area was laptops, PC's, and the government. Some government
> > people are permitted to use the same licensed copy of software on a
> > government licensed PC and a personally owned PC. This used to also
> > include
> > encryption software that was illegal to take out of the country, unless
> > you
> > had an export license or were a direct government employee.
> >
> > There are keys that can be obtained directly from Microsoft, usually
> > associated with some sort of development environment. These keys do not
> > usually behave as a normal retail or OEM key would when the activation
> > process occurs. I'd guess that they are some sort of multi-user key.
Some
> > time ago, when I was more active in the development field, I had a
> > personal
> > key set assigned for various systems and applications. (These have
> > expired,
> > and are no longer valid for new installs) Two years or so ago, one key
> > that I have (obtained from this process) was supposedly compromised. A
> > call
> > to the appropriate Microsoft support number produced a new same type
valid
> > replacement key within a few minutes. Since the
> > validation/verification/activation process seems to be a bit fluid, who
> > knows what will happen in the future. Somehow, I suspect that a future
> > "mandatory upgrade" will effectively lock a windows copy to the system
it
> > is
> > currently running. Undoubtedly, the "upgrade" will contain a EULA
revision
> > that covers the change.
> >
> > The "third world" being what it is, any method/scheme used will be
broken
> > shortly after it's implementation. I suppose increased law enforcement
on
> > a
> > global scale may eventually make a dent in the underground industry.
> >
> > "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Actually it is so.
> >> Read the EULA you already agreed.
> >> Whether it can be done is one thing, but it is another if you intend to
> >> abide by what has already been agreed.
> >> The clue to your circumstance is that the upgrade key did not work with
> > the
> >> upgrade CD.
> >> Now either something was wrong with the key or you read it wrong and
that
> >> particular key was intended for OEM.
> >> Or possibly the CD was mis-marked.
> >> A Retail upgrade CD will not work with the OEM key unless something
else
> > is
> >> wrong as is evidenced by the upgrade key not working with the upgrade
CD.
> >>
> >> What did Microsoft say when you asked them why the key did not work?
> >> If you did not ask, you should do so soon since you may be denied
> > activation
> >> at a later date.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> >> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> >> http://www.dts-l.org
> >>
> >>
> >> "jll" > wrote in message
> >> news:aRKPf.12124$oL.10611@attbi_s71...
> >> > Not so. I bought a copy of XP Home upgrade for my wife's W98 machine.
> > For
> >> > some reason, it would not accept the product key (I bought it at Best
> >> > Buy!). Rather than taking it back, I tried the key listed on the side
> >> > of
> >> > my Dell. It took. Her machine is a Gateway. Hopefully, I won't need
it.
> >> > But if it comes to that, I'll try the one that came on the upgrade.
> >> > Otherwise, I'll think of something.
> >> > jll
> >> > "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> >> "irene1964" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
> >> >>>> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
> >> >>>> would give away something worth about $100.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Also, you quoted a very old post.
> >> >>>> Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
> >> >>>> posted recently.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short
> >> >>>> of
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>> first anniversary of his death.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> >> >>>> Please reply to the newsgroup
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> "irene1964" wrote in message if any
> >> >>>> one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
> >> >>>> i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> irene1964
> >> >>> "i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely
> >> >>> offering
> >> >>> people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the
> >> >>> matter?
> >> >>> is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free
of
> >> >>> charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
> >> >>> product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
> >> >>> person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round
> > making
> >> >>> money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE.
> >> >>> and
> >> >>> if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the
police!
> > i
> >> >>> havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!!
> > have
> >> >>> a good day.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> irene1964
> >> >>
> >> >> Irene the key is no good to anyone unless you also give or sell them
> > the
> >> >> computer. The product key you have can only be used with computer
that
> > it
> >> >> came with and is not transferable without the computer. This is by
> >> >> arrangement between Microsoft and the company that installed the
> >> >> software. It is called an OEM or Original Equipment Manufacturer
> > license
> >> >> agreement.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
> >> >> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

jll
March 10th 06, 01:02 AM
I'm a practical guy. I used the resources I had at hand. If it would not
have worked, I would have taken the software back to Best Buy. Calling M$
would have been the very last resort. And, I have never read a EULA. As I
said before, I hope I never have to reinstall. But if I must, I'll think of
something or I'll ask in newsgroups. The world is full of options. Who
knows, maybe Vista will be out then. Nice thread, BTW.
jll
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Actually it is so.
> Read the EULA you already agreed.
> Whether it can be done is one thing, but it is another if you intend to
> abide by what has already been agreed.
> The clue to your circumstance is that the upgrade key did not work with
> the upgrade CD.
> Now either something was wrong with the key or you read it wrong and that
> particular key was intended for OEM.
> Or possibly the CD was mis-marked.
> A Retail upgrade CD will not work with the OEM key unless something else
> is wrong as is evidenced by the upgrade key not working with the upgrade
> CD.
>
> What did Microsoft say when you asked them why the key did not work?
> If you did not ask, you should do so soon since you may be denied
> activation at a later date.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "jll" > wrote in message
> news:aRKPf.12124$oL.10611@attbi_s71...
>> Not so. I bought a copy of XP Home upgrade for my wife's W98 machine. For
>> some reason, it would not accept the product key (I bought it at Best
>> Buy!). Rather than taking it back, I tried the key listed on the side of
>> my Dell. It took. Her machine is a Gateway. Hopefully, I won't need it.
>> But if it comes to that, I'll try the one that came on the upgrade.
>> Otherwise, I'll think of something.
>> jll
>> "Harry Ohrn" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "irene1964" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Ken Blake, MVP Wrote:
>>>>> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It sounds like you are offering stolen goods because I doubt you
>>>>> would give away something worth about $100.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, you quoted a very old post.
>>>>> Alex has not posted in a long while and I would be concerned if he
>>>>> posted recently.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's for sure. As a matter of fact, today is just two days short of
>>>>> the
>>>>> first anniversary of his death.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "irene1964" wrote in message if any
>>>>> one wants to no the product key for xp home please email me and
>>>>> i will gladly email u back with the correct product key.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> irene1964
>>>> "i am offering stolen goods!!" i dont think so.. i was merely offering
>>>> people who have lost the product key to there winxp! whats the matter?
>>>> is it hard to believe that someone is offering to help others free of
>>>> charge!!! my pc was bought in cash from "curry's" for £600 and the
>>>> product key to the winxp is on the side of my pc! as for the other
>>>> person who has died (if thats true) i apologise. i dont go round making
>>>> money out of peop[le i merely try and help people. FREE OF CHARGE. and
>>>> if u think i am offering stolen goods then please contact the police! i
>>>> havwe nothing to hide and i have all my reciepts for every thing!! have
>>>> a good day.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> irene1964
>>>
>>> Irene the key is no good to anyone unless you also give or sell them the
>>> computer. The product key you have can only be used with computer that
>>> it came with and is not transferable without the computer. This is by
>>> arrangement between Microsoft and the company that installed the
>>> software. It is called an OEM or Original Equipment Manufacturer license
>>> agreement.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
>>> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Jupiter Jones [MVP]
March 10th 06, 05:45 AM
My guess is Vista will be out mid to late October of this year, in time for
Christmas sales alone and installed on the new computers.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"jll" > wrote in message
news:Ze4Qf.811076$x96.554455@attbi_s72...
> I'm a practical guy. I used the resources I had at hand. If it would not
> have worked, I would have taken the software back to Best Buy. Calling M$
> would have been the very last resort. And, I have never read a EULA. As I
> said before, I hope I never have to reinstall. But if I must, I'll think
> of something or I'll ask in newsgroups. The world is full of options. Who
> knows, maybe Vista will be out then. Nice thread, BTW.
> jll
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Actually it is so.
>> Read the EULA you already agreed.
>> Whether it can be done is one thing, but it is another if you intend to
>> abide by what has already been agreed.
>> The clue to your circumstance is that the upgrade key did not work with
>> the upgrade CD.
>> Now either something was wrong with the key or you read it wrong and that
>> particular key was intended for OEM.
>> Or possibly the CD was mis-marked.
>> A Retail upgrade CD will not work with the OEM key unless something else
>> is wrong as is evidenced by the upgrade key not working with the upgrade
>> CD.
>>
>> What did Microsoft say when you asked them why the key did not work?
>> If you did not ask, you should do so soon since you may be denied
>> activation at a later date.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org

Olórin
May 5th 06, 01:04 PM
"irene1964" > wrote in message
...
>
> irene1964 Wrote:
>> i posted a thread not so long ago... excuse me for posting it via you..
>> but only just joined so i am not familiar with this thread.. but still
>> trying.. any way posted a thread not so long ago offering free of
>> charge the product key for win xp.. obviously without realizing i have
>> done something wrong.. god no's why????? there only a load of
>> letters??? what harm am i doing??? its only to help those who really
>> have lost there product key! some of us aint the brightest spanner in
>> the works!! u no.. and we dont realize, we all make mistakes. so please
>> do not email for what i thought was helping, but apparently im a
>> violating something.. i appolige.. this message is for every one
>> concerned.
> sorry i mean appologise...
>
>
> --
> irene1964

"Apologise", actually. Not to mention "I" (caps, passim), "anyway", "knows",
"they're", "it's", "their", "ain't", "you know", "don't", "I'm" and
"everyone". Also, a fair sprinkling of "," together with use of capitals.

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