Re: Now you see it,Now you Don't

[Sharon F]

On Wed, 9 Apr 2003 21:51:29 +1000, "David Lewis"
> wrote:

>Hi,
>I recently replied to a post and set to "watch conversation."I was able to
>read my d/loaded reply but at a later time the whole thread had disappeared.
>I was able to see it using "Find message" but not d/loaded on screen in
>amongst other posts.I then Reset the NG and the thread reappeared.....only
>to vanish again minutes later.It's only happening to this one thread.
>Anybody know what's going on?

You are using a combination of Watch Thread and Hide Read Messages. The
watch sign will appear again if

-- you set your view back to show all messages (can be toggled with Hide
at any time)

-- there is a new post in the thread

You've reset the newsgroup (deleted the headers, messages and pointers)
so will need to reassign the Watch Thread preference for it once again.

NOTE: On large volume newsgroups it is possible for threads to eventual
"roll off" (become unavailable). For important posts that you don't want
to lose no matter what your settings are or how old a thread is, create
a new subfolder folder in OE's Personal Folders section. You can drag a
post to this folder or right click on it and choose Copy to Folder. The
copy of the post will remain there until you delete it.

Sharon F
MS MVP [Shell/User]

[Sharon F]

On Wed, 9 Apr 2003 21:51:29 +1000, "David Lewis"
> wrote:

>Hi,
>I recently replied to a post and set to "watch conversation."I was able to
>read my d/loaded reply but at a later time the whole thread had disappeared.
>I was able to see it using "Find message" but not d/loaded on screen in
>amongst other posts.I then Reset the NG and the thread reappeared.....only
>to vanish again minutes later.It's only happening to this one thread.
>Anybody know what's going on?

You are using a combination of Watch Thread and Hide Read Messages. The
watch sign will appear again if

-- you set your view back to show all messages (can be toggled with Hide
at any time)

-- there is a new post in the thread

You've reset the newsgroup (deleted the headers, messages and pointers)
so will need to reassign the Watch Thread preference for it once again.

NOTE: On large volume newsgroups it is possible for threads to eventual
"roll off" (become unavailable). For important posts that you don't want
to lose no matter what your settings are or how old a thread is, create
a new subfolder folder in OE's Personal Folders section. You can drag a
post to this folder or right click on it and choose Copy to Folder. The
copy of the post will remain there until you delete it.

Sharon F
MS MVP [Shell/User]

[David Lewis]

Unknown wrote:
> There are times when a responder usually a newbie does not have his
> computer set up to 'quote' the message he is responding to. Hence, we
> only see an answer. The fact that you sometime see two of these
> answers is an indication it IS a newbie.


Actually they were MVP's! The quoted text was included in their reply which
is why I knew I wasn't receiving the original post.

>You should try (Suggestion)
> sort by 'sent' .

I don't quite follow.How would this help?

Thanks for reply



--
Kind Regards,
David

[David Lewis]

Unknown wrote:
> There are times when a responder usually a newbie does not have his
> computer set up to 'quote' the message he is responding to. Hence, we
> only see an answer. The fact that you sometime see two of these
> answers is an indication it IS a newbie.


Actually they were MVP's! The quoted text was included in their reply which
is why I knew I wasn't receiving the original post.

>You should try (Suggestion)
> sort by 'sent' .

I don't quite follow.How would this help?

Thanks for reply



--
Kind Regards,
David

[David Lewis]

Unknown wrote:
> Whoa! You got me confused now. If the quoted text was included in
> their reply the quoted text IS the original post. What am I
> misunderstanding??

My poor explanation. I mean that the orig posted question is not seen at the
top of the thread which in fact starts with the first reply.You in fact can
read the original question if the first responder has not snipped it out.
The missing OP may or may not turn up later on and take its place at the top
of the thread.


>Sort by 'sent' gives the posts in chronological
> order either in accending or decending order. (your choice) I only
> mentioned it in the event you haven't tried it. ( You may prefer it).

OK, Thanks

--
Kind Regards,
David

[David Lewis]

Unknown wrote:
> Whoa! You got me confused now. If the quoted text was included in
> their reply the quoted text IS the original post. What am I
> misunderstanding??

My poor explanation. I mean that the orig posted question is not seen at the
top of the thread which in fact starts with the first reply.You in fact can
read the original question if the first responder has not snipped it out.
The missing OP may or may not turn up later on and take its place at the top
of the thread.


>Sort by 'sent' gives the posts in chronological
> order either in accending or decending order. (your choice) I only
> mentioned it in the event you haven't tried it. ( You may prefer it).

OK, Thanks

--
Kind Regards,
David

[Unknown]

Whoa! You got me confused now. If the quoted text was included in their
reply the quoted text IS the original post. What am I misunderstanding??
Sort by 'sent' gives the posts in chronological order either in accending or
decending order. (your choice) I only mentioned it in the event you haven't
tried it. ( You may prefer it).
"David Lewis" > wrote in message
...
> Unknown wrote:
> > There are times when a responder usually a newbie does not have his
> > computer set up to 'quote' the message he is responding to. Hence, we
> > only see an answer. The fact that you sometime see two of these
> > answers is an indication it IS a newbie.
>
>
> Actually they were MVP's! The quoted text was included in their reply
which
> is why I knew I wasn't receiving the original post.
>
> >You should try (Suggestion)
> > sort by 'sent' .
>
> I don't quite follow.How would this help?
>
> Thanks for reply
>
>
>
> --
> Kind Regards,
> David
>
>
>

[Unknown]

Whoa! You got me confused now. If the quoted text was included in their
reply the quoted text IS the original post. What am I misunderstanding??
Sort by 'sent' gives the posts in chronological order either in accending or
decending order. (your choice) I only mentioned it in the event you haven't
tried it. ( You may prefer it).
"David Lewis" > wrote in message
...
> Unknown wrote:
> > There are times when a responder usually a newbie does not have his
> > computer set up to 'quote' the message he is responding to. Hence, we
> > only see an answer. The fact that you sometime see two of these
> > answers is an indication it IS a newbie.
>
>
> Actually they were MVP's! The quoted text was included in their reply
which
> is why I knew I wasn't receiving the original post.
>
> >You should try (Suggestion)
> > sort by 'sent' .
>
> I don't quite follow.How would this help?
>
> Thanks for reply
>
>
>
> --
> Kind Regards,
> David
>
>
>

[Unknown]

Some of us top post, others bottom post and of course some will snip the
original and/or first response. I guess I had better go back and reread the
original post in this case..
"David Lewis" > wrote in message
...
> Unknown wrote:
> > Whoa! You got me confused now. If the quoted text was included in
> > their reply the quoted text IS the original post. What am I
> > misunderstanding??
>
> My poor explanation. I mean that the orig posted question is not seen at
the
> top of the thread which in fact starts with the first reply.You in fact
can
> read the original question if the first responder has not snipped it out.
> The missing OP may or may not turn up later on and take its place at the
top
> of the thread.
>
>
> >Sort by 'sent' gives the posts in chronological
> > order either in accending or decending order. (your choice) I only
> > mentioned it in the event you haven't tried it. ( You may prefer it).
>
> OK, Thanks
>
> --
> Kind Regards,
> David
>
>
>

[Unknown]

Some of us top post, others bottom post and of course some will snip the
original and/or first response. I guess I had better go back and reread the
original post in this case..
"David Lewis" > wrote in message
...
> Unknown wrote:
> > Whoa! You got me confused now. If the quoted text was included in
> > their reply the quoted text IS the original post. What am I
> > misunderstanding??
>
> My poor explanation. I mean that the orig posted question is not seen at
the
> top of the thread which in fact starts with the first reply.You in fact
can
> read the original question if the first responder has not snipped it out.
> The missing OP may or may not turn up later on and take its place at the
top
> of the thread.
>
>
> >Sort by 'sent' gives the posts in chronological
> > order either in accending or decending order. (your choice) I only
> > mentioned it in the event you haven't tried it. ( You may prefer it).
>
> OK, Thanks
>
> --
> Kind Regards,
> David
>
>
>

[Sharon F]

On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 16:00:44 +1000, "David Lewis"
> wrote:

Responses in line...

>Sharon F wrote:
>> Hi, David.
>> A few possible explanations:
>
>> -- Take a look in your OE settings: Tools> Options> Read
>> In the News section, the default value for "Get xxx headers at a time"
>> is 300. In a busy group such as windowsxp.general, it's unlikely that
>> 300 will grab all of the new messages every time you visit. Two
>> choices: Click on Tools> Get Next xxx headers to grab another group
>> of headers.
>> The missing message may show up in that bunch. Or, change the 300
>> setting to a higher number.
>
>I have mine already set for 999.If I "Get next headers" or press the tool
>bar button to do so it doesn't seem to retrieve any more headers on
>successive goes even though I have 1204 messages/1153 unread.Also,Since I
>reset the NG [ I cancelled the command soon after initiating since I
>realised I was resetting all NG's] my Winxp.basics NG only goes back to
>about the 6th April.Getting 999 more headers doesn't change this

Did I forget to mention you should click that button while you're
online? Sorry if I left that out. Also the button can only produce
resutled if you see a number listed in the status bar for "not
downloaded."

>
>> NOTE: If your OE status bar shows something like 450 messages, 450
>> unread (525 not downloaded), it means that there are approximately 525
>> headers that haven't been downloaded for you to see yet.
>
>Where does the 525 figure come from eg are there only 450+525= 975 possible
>headers to download?Mine shows 1204 messages/1153 unread....I'm not sure
>what this exactly means.Presumably I have d/loaded 1204 messages , read 51
>(1204-1153) but how many more are there to d/load?

Yes, you are interpreting the status bar numbers correctly.

When online and you click on a group in OE, the number of headers that
download is limited by your setting of 999. If there are less than 999
posts, you will not see a (xxx not downloaded). You only see that
notation when there's more than 999 unread messages available (or
whatever your setting is for downloading headers).

>> -- Not everyone accesses these newsgroups directly through the
>> Microsoft servers. Some will pick up the groups via their ISPs
>> newsgroup portal. Others use the Web interface. When using an ISP
>> news server, it can take time for the post to show up at other news
>> servers.
>
>I subscribed to the NG's via OE/Tools/NG's/Go To/Subscribe.I presume this is
>direct to MS Servers? Or is it somehow routed through my ISP?

In the Folders column on the left of the OE window is a "tree view"
list. It shows the first item as "Outlook Express." Indented under that
is Local Folders (with your personal subfolders inside). Right under
that is where the news servers start getting listed (each group shown
under the originating server).

Is the new server name shown for the MS groups that you read shown as
msnews.microsoft.com? If yes, you are using your ISPs connection to
"talk" directly to the actual MS news server.

If no, then you are accessing the newsgroups via a different server.
Many ISPs offer free access to their own news servers. They "mirror"
messages from other servers that their customers are interested in
reading. The news feed of these mirrored servers is not direct - it's a
trickle effect. Posts appear to the actual MS server and then get
"picked up" by the ISP's servers.

>> -- Some folks use a "no-archive" tag on their posts so that their
>> messages will not be propogated to other news servers. Instead their
>> message only shows up on their original server.
>
>Does this mean it won't show up on Google Groups?...AND does that also mean
>the post would not show up on my computer if I am somehow subscribed thru my
>ISP?

Yes. There is one newsgroup that I read (not an MS newsgroup). Sometimes
I catch up on the group via Google Groups. Other times, I access their
server directly. When I read the group directly, I see posts that never
make it to Google Groups because of the no-archive tag in the post.

>
>Once again many thanks in advance.This is turning out to be quite a learning
>experience!

Oh, it gets more interesting. Just wait until someone's server "burps"
and you get 10,000 posts from 2001 in your newsreader. Luckily that
doesn't happen very often :)

A good site to learn more about Outlook Express (mail and newsgroup
topics) is at: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com

There is also an OutlookExpress group on this server:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress

Sharon F
MS MVP [Shell/User]

[Sharon F]

On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 16:00:44 +1000, "David Lewis"
> wrote:

Responses in line...

>Sharon F wrote:
>> Hi, David.
>> A few possible explanations:
>
>> -- Take a look in your OE settings: Tools> Options> Read
>> In the News section, the default value for "Get xxx headers at a time"
>> is 300. In a busy group such as windowsxp.general, it's unlikely that
>> 300 will grab all of the new messages every time you visit. Two
>> choices: Click on Tools> Get Next xxx headers to grab another group
>> of headers.
>> The missing message may show up in that bunch. Or, change the 300
>> setting to a higher number.
>
>I have mine already set for 999.If I "Get next headers" or press the tool
>bar button to do so it doesn't seem to retrieve any more headers on
>successive goes even though I have 1204 messages/1153 unread.Also,Since I
>reset the NG [ I cancelled the command soon after initiating since I
>realised I was resetting all NG's] my Winxp.basics NG only goes back to
>about the 6th April.Getting 999 more headers doesn't change this

Did I forget to mention you should click that button while you're
online? Sorry if I left that out. Also the button can only produce
resutled if you see a number listed in the status bar for "not
downloaded."

>
>> NOTE: If your OE status bar shows something like 450 messages, 450
>> unread (525 not downloaded), it means that there are approximately 525
>> headers that haven't been downloaded for you to see yet.
>
>Where does the 525 figure come from eg are there only 450+525= 975 possible
>headers to download?Mine shows 1204 messages/1153 unread....I'm not sure
>what this exactly means.Presumably I have d/loaded 1204 messages , read 51
>(1204-1153) but how many more are there to d/load?

Yes, you are interpreting the status bar numbers correctly.

When online and you click on a group in OE, the number of headers that
download is limited by your setting of 999. If there are less than 999
posts, you will not see a (xxx not downloaded). You only see that
notation when there's more than 999 unread messages available (or
whatever your setting is for downloading headers).

>> -- Not everyone accesses these newsgroups directly through the
>> Microsoft servers. Some will pick up the groups via their ISPs
>> newsgroup portal. Others use the Web interface. When using an ISP
>> news server, it can take time for the post to show up at other news
>> servers.
>
>I subscribed to the NG's via OE/Tools/NG's/Go To/Subscribe.I presume this is
>direct to MS Servers? Or is it somehow routed through my ISP?

In the Folders column on the left of the OE window is a "tree view"
list. It shows the first item as "Outlook Express." Indented under that
is Local Folders (with your personal subfolders inside). Right under
that is where the news servers start getting listed (each group shown
under the originating server).

Is the new server name shown for the MS groups that you read shown as
msnews.microsoft.com? If yes, you are using your ISPs connection to
"talk" directly to the actual MS news server.

If no, then you are accessing the newsgroups via a different server.
Many ISPs offer free access to their own news servers. They "mirror"
messages from other servers that their customers are interested in
reading. The news feed of these mirrored servers is not direct - it's a
trickle effect. Posts appear to the actual MS server and then get
"picked up" by the ISP's servers.

>> -- Some folks use a "no-archive" tag on their posts so that their
>> messages will not be propogated to other news servers. Instead their
>> message only shows up on their original server.
>
>Does this mean it won't show up on Google Groups?...AND does that also mean
>the post would not show up on my computer if I am somehow subscribed thru my
>ISP?

Yes. There is one newsgroup that I read (not an MS newsgroup). Sometimes
I catch up on the group via Google Groups. Other times, I access their
server directly. When I read the group directly, I see posts that never
make it to Google Groups because of the no-archive tag in the post.

>
>Once again many thanks in advance.This is turning out to be quite a learning
>experience!

Oh, it gets more interesting. Just wait until someone's server "burps"
and you get 10,000 posts from 2001 in your newsreader. Luckily that
doesn't happen very often :)

A good site to learn more about Outlook Express (mail and newsgroup
topics) is at: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com

There is also an OutlookExpress group on this server:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress

Sharon F
MS MVP [Shell/User]

[David Lewis]

Sharon F wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 16:00:44 +1000, "David Lewis"
> > wrote:
>
> Responses in line...
>
>> Sharon F wrote:
>>> Hi, David.
>>> A few possible explanations:
>>
>>> -- Take a look in your OE settings: Tools> Options> Read
>>> In the News section, the default value for "Get xxx headers at a
>>> time"
>>> is 300. In a busy group such as windowsxp.general, it's unlikely
>>> that 300 will grab all of the new messages every time you visit. Two
>>> choices: Click on Tools> Get Next xxx headers to grab another group
>>> of headers.
>>> The missing message may show up in that bunch. Or, change the 300
>>> setting to a higher number.
>>
>> I have mine already set for 999.If I "Get next headers" or press the
>> tool
>> bar button to do so it doesn't seem to retrieve any more headers on
>> successive goes even though I have 1204 messages/1153
>> unread.Also,Since I
>> reset the NG [ I cancelled the command soon after initiating since I
>> realised I was resetting all NG's] my Winxp.basics NG only goes back
>> to
>> about the 6th April.Getting 999 more headers doesn't change this
>
> Did I forget to mention you should click that button while you're
> online? Sorry if I left that out. Also the button can only produce
> resutled if you see a number listed in the status bar for "not
> downloaded."

Actually I was online and contrary to what I said above(apologies for my
confusion) the status bar updates each time I get 999 more headers.If I do
this repeatedly then I continue to get more headers retrieved from earlier
and earlier dates and the "headers not d/loaded" figure reduces. I'm
guessing that these were headers not initially d/loaded from the server when
I cancelled the "reset" whilst in progress.(?) I swear that the correct
status bar figures were not happening when I last posted eg there was no
indication of headers not d/loaded but anyway it appears to be working now
as you have described.

So at present I have 12,483 "not downloaded". Should I uncheck the 999 and
d/load all the headers or "synchronize" which I gather d/loads headers and
message bodies?.Basically I don't want to lose my "watched conversations".
Also I have cable broadband and tons of disc space so d/load amount or speed
is not an issue. I gatther at the moment I have only d/loaded the headers
and the rest comes only if you click on one and read it? In some ways this
makes sense i.e. why d/load the body of the message until and if you intend
to read it? Before I reset the NG's,some took a long time to access when I
clicked onto the NG and I'm thinking maybe I had too many d/loaded messages
at that time?


<snip>

> is Local Folders (with your personal subfolders inside). Right under
> that is where the news servers start getting listed (each group shown
> under the originating server).
>
> Is the new server name shown for the MS groups that you read shown as
> msnews.microsoft.com? If yes, you are using your ISPs connection to
> "talk" directly to the actual MS news server.

OK,Yes,I am directly linked to MS news server.Thanks


<snip>


> A good site to learn more about Outlook Express (mail and newsgroup
> topics) is at: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com

Yes I am going there to have a good read and hopefully stop having to pester
you.


> There is also an OutlookExpress group on this server:
>
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress

Yes I discovered that shortly after I posted the follow up question to you
on this thread.As the follow up question was not on the exact same topic as
the OP I wasn't sure that you would reply so I posted the same (new)
question at OE6 NG.I hope this does not constitute cross posting. In case it
does I apologise.At any rate there has been some interesting replies about
this miss matching of OP/replies.For those interested:

Sharon F wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 16:00:44 +1000, "David Lewis"
> > wrote:
>
> Responses in line...
>
>> Sharon F wrote:
>>> Hi, David.
>>> A few possible explanations:
>>
>>> -- Take a look in your OE settings: Tools> Options> Read
>>> In the News section, the default value for "Get xxx headers at a
>>> time"
>>> is 300. In a busy group such as windowsxp.general, it's unlikely
>>> that 300 will grab all of the new messages every time you visit. Two
>>> choices: Click on Tools> Get Next xxx headers to grab another group
>>> of headers.
>>> The missing message may show up in that bunch. Or, change the 300
>>> setting to a higher number.
>>
>> I have mine already set for 999.If I "Get next headers" or press the
>> tool
>> bar button to do so it doesn't seem to retrieve any more headers on
>> successive goes even though I have 1204 messages/1153
>> unread.Also,Since I
>> reset the NG [ I cancelled the command soon after initiating since I
>> realised I was resetting all NG's] my Winxp.basics NG only goes back
>> to
>> about the 6th April.Getting 999 more headers doesn't change this
>
> Did I forget to mention you should click that button while you're
> online? Sorry if I left that out. Also the button can only produce
> resutled if you see a number listed in the status bar for "not
> downloaded."

Actually I was online and contrary to what I said above(apologies for my
confusion) the status bar updates each time I get 999 more headers.If I do
this repeatedly then I continue to get more headers retrieved from earlier
and earlier dates and the "headers not d/loaded" figure reduces. I'm
guessing that these were headers not initially d/loaded from the server when
I cancelled the "reset" whilst in progress.(?) I swear that the correct
status bar figures were not happening when I last posted eg there was no
indication of headers not d/loaded but anyway it appears to be working now
as you have described.

So at present I have 12,483 "not downloaded". Should I uncheck the 999 and
d/load all the headers or "synchronize" which I gather d/loads headers and
message bodies?.Basically I don't want to lose my "watched conversations".
Also I have cable broadband and tons of disc space so d/load amount or speed
is not an issue. I gatther at the moment I have only d/loaded the headers
and the rest comes only if you click on one and read it? In some ways this
makes sense i.e. why d/load the body of the message until and if you intend
to read it? Before I reset the NG's,some took a long time to access when I
clicked onto the NG and I'm thinking maybe I had too many d/loaded messages
at that time?


<snip>

> is Local Folders (with your personal subfolders inside). Right under
> that is where the news servers start getting listed (each group shown
> under the originating server).
>
> Is the new server name shown for the MS groups that you read shown as
> msnews.microsoft.com? If yes, you are using your ISPs connection to
> "talk" directly to the actual MS news server.

OK,Yes,I am directly linked to MS news server.Thanks


<snip>


> A good site to learn more about Outlook Express (mail and newsgroup
> topics) is at: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com

Yes I am going there to have a good read and hopefully stop having to pester
you.


> There is also an OutlookExpress group on this server:
>
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress

Yes I discovered that shortly after I posted the follow up question to you
on this thread.As the follow up question was not on the exact same topic as
the OP I wasn't sure that you would reply so I posted the same (new)
question at OE6 NG.I hope this does not constitute cross posting. In case it
does I apologise.At any rate there has been some interesting replies about
this miss matching of OP/replies.For those interested:

Sharon F wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 16:00:44 +1000, "David Lewis"
> > wrote:
>
> Responses in line...
>
>> Sharon F wrote:
>>> Hi, David.
>>> A few possible explanations:
>>
>>> -- Take a look in your OE settings: Tools> Options> Read
>>> In the News section, the default value for "Get xxx headers at a
>>> time"
>>> is 300. In a busy group such as windowsxp.general, it's unlikely
>>> that 300 will grab all of the new messages every time you visit. Two
>>> choices: Click on Tools> Get Next xxx headers to grab another group
>>> of headers.
>>> The missing message may show up in that bunch. Or, change the 300
>>> setting to a higher number.
>>
>> I have mine already set for 999.If I "Get next headers" or press the
>> tool
>> bar button to do so it doesn't seem to retrieve any more headers on
>> successive goes even though I have 1204 messages/1153
>> unread.Also,Since I
>> reset the NG [ I cancelled the command soon after initiating since I
>> realised I was resetting all NG's] my Winxp.basics NG only goes back
>> to
>> about the 6th April.Getting 999 more headers doesn't change this
>
> Did I forget to mention you should click that button while you're
> online? Sorry if I left that out. Also the button can only produce
> resutled if you see a number listed in the status bar for "not
> downloaded."

Actually I was online and contrary to what I said above(apologies for my
confusion) the status bar updates each time I get 999 more headers.If I do
this repeatedly then I continue to get more headers retrieved from earlier
and earlier dates and the "headers not d/loaded" figure reduces. I'm
guessing that these were headers not initially d/loaded from the server when
I cancelled the "reset" whilst in progress.(?) I swear that the correct
status bar figures were not happening when I last posted eg there was no
indication of headers not d/loaded but anyway it appears to be working now
as you have described.

So at present I have 12,483 "not downloaded". Should I uncheck the 999 and
d/load all the headers or "synchronize" which I gather d/loads headers and
message bodies?.Basically I don't want to lose my "watched conversations".
Also I have cable broadband and tons of disc space so d/load amount or speed
is not an issue. I gatther at the moment I have only d/loaded the headers
and the rest comes only if you click on one and read it? In some ways this
makes sense i.e. why d/load the body of the message until and if you intend
to read it? Before I reset the NG's,some took a long time to access when I
clicked onto the NG and I'm thinking maybe I had too many d/loaded messages
at that time?


<snip>

> is Local Folders (with your personal subfolders inside). Right under
> that is where the news servers start getting listed (each group shown
> under the originating server).
>
> Is the new server name shown for the MS groups that you read shown as
> msnews.microsoft.com? If yes, you are using your ISPs connection to
> "talk" directly to the actual MS news server.

OK,Yes,I am directly linked to MS news server.Thanks


<snip>


> A good site to learn more about Outlook Express (mail and newsgroup
> topics) is at: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com

Yes I am going there to have a good read and hopefully stop having to pester
you.


> There is also an OutlookExpress group on this server:
>
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress

Yes I discovered that shortly after I posted the follow up question to you
on this thread.As the follow up question was not on the exact same topic as
the OP I wasn't sure that you would reply so I posted the same (new)
question at OE6 NG.I hope this does not constitute cross posting. In case it
does I apologise :(. At any rate there has been some interesting replies
about this miss matching of OP/replies.For those interested:

From: "David Lewis" Subject: Headers not displaying
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 12:43:29 +1000
Message-ID: >
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress

I also found another thread related to this topic for those wanting to read
more:

From: "Mike Matheny" Subject: Why do I have to reset my OE newsreader files
once a week and redownload headers ...
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:52:22 -0600
Message-ID: >
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress

Sharon thank you for your kind assistance and great patience!

--
Kind Regards,
David




--
Kind Regards,
David




--
Kind Regards,
David

[David Lewis]

Sharon F wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 16:00:44 +1000, "David Lewis"
> > wrote:
>
> Responses in line...
>
>> Sharon F wrote:
>>> Hi, David.
>>> A few possible explanations:
>>
>>> -- Take a look in your OE settings: Tools> Options> Read
>>> In the News section, the default value for "Get xxx headers at a
>>> time"
>>> is 300. In a busy group such as windowsxp.general, it's unlikely
>>> that 300 will grab all of the new messages every time you visit. Two
>>> choices: Click on Tools> Get Next xxx headers to grab another group
>>> of headers.
>>> The missing message may show up in that bunch. Or, change the 300
>>> setting to a higher number.
>>
>> I have mine already set for 999.If I "Get next headers" or press the
>> tool
>> bar button to do so it doesn't seem to retrieve any more headers on
>> successive goes even though I have 1204 messages/1153
>> unread.Also,Since I
>> reset the NG [ I cancelled the command soon after initiating since I
>> realised I was resetting all NG's] my Winxp.basics NG only goes back
>> to
>> about the 6th April.Getting 999 more headers doesn't change this
>
> Did I forget to mention you should click that button while you're
> online? Sorry if I left that out. Also the button can only produce
> resutled if you see a number listed in the status bar for "not
> downloaded."

Actually I was online and contrary to what I said above(apologies for my
confusion) the status bar updates each time I get 999 more headers.If I do
this repeatedly then I continue to get more headers retrieved from earlier
and earlier dates and the "headers not d/loaded" figure reduces. I'm
guessing that these were headers not initially d/loaded from the server when
I cancelled the "reset" whilst in progress.(?) I swear that the correct
status bar figures were not happening when I last posted eg there was no
indication of headers not d/loaded but anyway it appears to be working now
as you have described.

So at present I have 12,483 "not downloaded". Should I uncheck the 999 and
d/load all the headers or "synchronize" which I gather d/loads headers and
message bodies?.Basically I don't want to lose my "watched conversations".
Also I have cable broadband and tons of disc space so d/load amount or speed
is not an issue. I gatther at the moment I have only d/loaded the headers
and the rest comes only if you click on one and read it? In some ways this
makes sense i.e. why d/load the body of the message until and if you intend
to read it? Before I reset the NG's,some took a long time to access when I
clicked onto the NG and I'm thinking maybe I had too many d/loaded messages
at that time?


<snip>

> is Local Folders (with your personal subfolders inside). Right under
> that is where the news servers start getting listed (each group shown
> under the originating server).
>
> Is the new server name shown for the MS groups that you read shown as
> msnews.microsoft.com? If yes, you are using your ISPs connection to
> "talk" directly to the actual MS news server.

OK,Yes,I am directly linked to MS news server.Thanks


<snip>


> A good site to learn more about Outlook Express (mail and newsgroup
> topics) is at: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com

Yes I am going there to have a good read and hopefully stop having to pester
you.


> There is also an OutlookExpress group on this server:
>
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress

Yes I discovered that shortly after I posted the follow up question to you
on this thread.As the follow up question was not on the exact same topic as
the OP I wasn't sure that you would reply so I posted the same (new)
question at OE6 NG.I hope this does not constitute cross posting. In case it
does I apologise.At any rate there has been some interesting replies about
this miss matching of OP/replies.For those interested:

Sharon F wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 16:00:44 +1000, "David Lewis"
> > wrote:
>
> Responses in line...
>
>> Sharon F wrote:
>>> Hi, David.
>>> A few possible explanations:
>>
>>> -- Take a look in your OE settings: Tools> Options> Read
>>> In the News section, the default value for "Get xxx headers at a
>>> time"
>>> is 300. In a busy group such as windowsxp.general, it's unlikely
>>> that 300 will grab all of the new messages every time you visit. Two
>>> choices: Click on Tools> Get Next xxx headers to grab another group
>>> of headers.
>>> The missing message may show up in that bunch. Or, change the 300
>>> setting to a higher number.
>>
>> I have mine already set for 999.If I "Get next headers" or press the
>> tool
>> bar button to do so it doesn't seem to retrieve any more headers on
>> successive goes even though I have 1204 messages/1153
>> unread.Also,Since I
>> reset the NG [ I cancelled the command soon after initiating since I
>> realised I was resetting all NG's] my Winxp.basics NG only goes back
>> to
>> about the 6th April.Getting 999 more headers doesn't change this
>
> Did I forget to mention you should click that button while you're
> online? Sorry if I left that out. Also the button can only produce
> resutled if you see a number listed in the status bar for "not
> downloaded."

Actually I was online and contrary to what I said above(apologies for my
confusion) the status bar updates each time I get 999 more headers.If I do
this repeatedly then I continue to get more headers retrieved from earlier
and earlier dates and the "headers not d/loaded" figure reduces. I'm
guessing that these were headers not initially d/loaded from the server when
I cancelled the "reset" whilst in progress.(?) I swear that the correct
status bar figures were not happening when I last posted eg there was no
indication of headers not d/loaded but anyway it appears to be working now
as you have described.

So at present I have 12,483 "not downloaded". Should I uncheck the 999 and
d/load all the headers or "synchronize" which I gather d/loads headers and
message bodies?.Basically I don't want to lose my "watched conversations".
Also I have cable broadband and tons of disc space so d/load amount or speed
is not an issue. I gatther at the moment I have only d/loaded the headers
and the rest comes only if you click on one and read it? In some ways this
makes sense i.e. why d/load the body of the message until and if you intend
to read it? Before I reset the NG's,some took a long time to access when I
clicked onto the NG and I'm thinking maybe I had too many d/loaded messages
at that time?


<snip>

> is Local Folders (with your personal subfolders inside). Right under
> that is where the news servers start getting listed (each group shown
> under the originating server).
>
> Is the new server name shown for the MS groups that you read shown as
> msnews.microsoft.com? If yes, you are using your ISPs connection to
> "talk" directly to the actual MS news server.

OK,Yes,I am directly linked to MS news server.Thanks


<snip>


> A good site to learn more about Outlook Express (mail and newsgroup
> topics) is at: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com

Yes I am going there to have a good read and hopefully stop having to pester
you.


> There is also an OutlookExpress group on this server:
>
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress

Yes I discovered that shortly after I posted the follow up question to you
on this thread.As the follow up question was not on the exact same topic as
the OP I wasn't sure that you would reply so I posted the same (new)
question at OE6 NG.I hope this does not constitute cross posting. In case it
does I apologise.At any rate there has been some interesting replies about
this miss matching of OP/replies.For those interested:

Sharon F wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 16:00:44 +1000, "David Lewis"
> > wrote:
>
> Responses in line...
>
>> Sharon F wrote:
>>> Hi, David.
>>> A few possible explanations:
>>
>>> -- Take a look in your OE settings: Tools> Options> Read
>>> In the News section, the default value for "Get xxx headers at a
>>> time"
>>> is 300. In a busy group such as windowsxp.general, it's unlikely
>>> that 300 will grab all of the new messages every time you visit. Two
>>> choices: Click on Tools> Get Next xxx headers to grab another group
>>> of headers.
>>> The missing message may show up in that bunch. Or, change the 300
>>> setting to a higher number.
>>
>> I have mine already set for 999.If I "Get next headers" or press the
>> tool
>> bar button to do so it doesn't seem to retrieve any more headers on
>> successive goes even though I have 1204 messages/1153
>> unread.Also,Since I
>> reset the NG [ I cancelled the command soon after initiating since I
>> realised I was resetting all NG's] my Winxp.basics NG only goes back
>> to
>> about the 6th April.Getting 999 more headers doesn't change this
>
> Did I forget to mention you should click that button while you're
> online? Sorry if I left that out. Also the button can only produce
> resutled if you see a number listed in the status bar for "not
> downloaded."

Actually I was online and contrary to what I said above(apologies for my
confusion) the status bar updates each time I get 999 more headers.If I do
this repeatedly then I continue to get more headers retrieved from earlier
and earlier dates and the "headers not d/loaded" figure reduces. I'm
guessing that these were headers not initially d/loaded from the server when
I cancelled the "reset" whilst in progress.(?) I swear that the correct
status bar figures were not happening when I last posted eg there was no
indication of headers not d/loaded but anyway it appears to be working now
as you have described.

So at present I have 12,483 "not downloaded". Should I uncheck the 999 and
d/load all the headers or "synchronize" which I gather d/loads headers and
message bodies?.Basically I don't want to lose my "watched conversations".
Also I have cable broadband and tons of disc space so d/load amount or speed
is not an issue. I gatther at the moment I have only d/loaded the headers
and the rest comes only if you click on one and read it? In some ways this
makes sense i.e. why d/load the body of the message until and if you intend
to read it? Before I reset the NG's,some took a long time to access when I
clicked onto the NG and I'm thinking maybe I had too many d/loaded messages
at that time?


<snip>

> is Local Folders (with your personal subfolders inside). Right under
> that is where the news servers start getting listed (each group shown
> under the originating server).
>
> Is the new server name shown for the MS groups that you read shown as
> msnews.microsoft.com? If yes, you are using your ISPs connection to
> "talk" directly to the actual MS news server.

OK,Yes,I am directly linked to MS news server.Thanks


<snip>


> A good site to learn more about Outlook Express (mail and newsgroup
> topics) is at: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com

Yes I am going there to have a good read and hopefully stop having to pester
you.


> There is also an OutlookExpress group on this server:
>
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress

Yes I discovered that shortly after I posted the follow up question to you
on this thread.As the follow up question was not on the exact same topic as
the OP I wasn't sure that you would reply so I posted the same (new)
question at OE6 NG.I hope this does not constitute cross posting. In case it
does I apologise :(. At any rate there has been some interesting replies
about this miss matching of OP/replies.For those interested:

From: "David Lewis" Subject: Headers not displaying
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 12:43:29 +1000
Message-ID: >
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress

I also found another thread related to this topic for those wanting to read
more:

From: "Mike Matheny" Subject: Why do I have to reset my OE newsreader files
once a week and redownload headers ...
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:52:22 -0600
Message-ID: >
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress

Sharon thank you for your kind assistance and great patience!

--
Kind Regards,
David




--
Kind Regards,
David




--
Kind Regards,
David

[David Lewis]

OOPS

In the previous post I goofed and repeated a large section of text following
:

"At any rate there has been some interesting replies about
this miss matching of OP/replies.For those interested:"....

Please scroll down to where you see that same line again lower down in post.
SORRY

David

[David Lewis]

OOPS

In the previous post I goofed and repeated a large section of text following
:

"At any rate there has been some interesting replies about
this miss matching of OP/replies.For those interested:"....

Please scroll down to where you see that same line again lower down in post.
SORRY

David

[Sharon F]

Snipped for brevity's sake :)

On Mon, 14 Apr 2003 14:49:16 +1000, "David Lewis"
> wrote:

>Actually I was online and contrary to what I said above(apologies for my
>confusion) the status bar updates each time I get 999 more headers.If I do
>this repeatedly then I continue to get more headers retrieved from earlier
>and earlier dates and the "headers not d/loaded" figure reduces. I'm
>guessing that these were headers not initially d/loaded from the server when
>I cancelled the "reset" whilst in progress.(?) I swear that the correct
>status bar figures were not happening when I last posted eg there was no
>indication of headers not d/loaded but anyway it appears to be working now
>as you have described.

>So at present I have 12,483 "not downloaded". Should I uncheck the 999 and
>d/load all the headers or "synchronize" which I gather d/loads headers and
>message bodies?.Basically I don't want to lose my "watched conversations".
>Also I have cable broadband and tons of disc space so d/load amount or speed
>is not an issue. I gatther at the moment I have only d/loaded the headers
>and the rest comes only if you click on one and read it? In some ways this
>makes sense i.e. why d/load the body of the message until and if you intend
>to read it? Before I reset the NG's,some took a long time to access when I
>clicked onto the NG and I'm thinking maybe I had too many d/loaded messages
>at that time?
>

I have message rules that mark posts older than 3 days as read. If I
reset a newsgroup, I get the initial xxx amount of posts and then do a
"catch up" to avoid downloading the backlog of headers. Only new
messages download after that.

I save insteresting posts as I find them to folders. Can read those
anytime whether I download the entire group or not.

If you think you'll read 12,483 posts go ahead and download them.
Otherwise, you might want to try out Catch Up too.

>> A good site to learn more about Outlook Express (mail and newsgroup
>> topics) is at: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com
>
>Yes I am going there to have a good read and hopefully stop having to pester
>you.

You're not a pest. Would rather spend a bit of time getting someone
going in OE (or any newsreader) than to have them continue accessing the
groups with the web interface! Even though there's a bit of a learning
curve, a newsreader is a lot less frustrating in the long run and a more
efficient tool.

>> There is also an OutlookExpress group on this server:
>>
>news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
>
>Yes I discovered that shortly after I posted the follow up question to you
>on this thread.As the follow up question was not on the exact same topic as
>the OP I wasn't sure that you would reply so I posted the same (new)
>question at OE6 NG.

I flag all messages that I reply to so that if there is a new response
in that thread, the newsreader marks them to grab my attention. That's
one of those other features you'll learn more about as you get more
comfortable using a newsreader.

>--
>Kind Regards,
>David

Right back at ya, David. Good luck with OE.

Sharon F
MS MVP [Shell/User]

[Sharon F]

Snipped for brevity's sake :)

On Mon, 14 Apr 2003 14:49:16 +1000, "David Lewis"
> wrote:

>Actually I was online and contrary to what I said above(apologies for my
>confusion) the status bar updates each time I get 999 more headers.If I do
>this repeatedly then I continue to get more headers retrieved from earlier
>and earlier dates and the "headers not d/loaded" figure reduces. I'm
>guessing that these were headers not initially d/loaded from the server when
>I cancelled the "reset" whilst in progress.(?) I swear that the correct
>status bar figures were not happening when I last posted eg there was no
>indication of headers not d/loaded but anyway it appears to be working now
>as you have described.

>So at present I have 12,483 "not downloaded". Should I uncheck the 999 and
>d/load all the headers or "synchronize" which I gather d/loads headers and
>message bodies?.Basically I don't want to lose my "watched conversations".
>Also I have cable broadband and tons of disc space so d/load amount or speed
>is not an issue. I gatther at the moment I have only d/loaded the headers
>and the rest comes only if you click on one and read it? In some ways this
>makes sense i.e. why d/load the body of the message until and if you intend
>to read it? Before I reset the NG's,some took a long time to access when I
>clicked onto the NG and I'm thinking maybe I had too many d/loaded messages
>at that time?
>

I have message rules that mark posts older than 3 days as read. If I
reset a newsgroup, I get the initial xxx amount of posts and then do a
"catch up" to avoid downloading the backlog of headers. Only new
messages download after that.

I save insteresting posts as I find them to folders. Can read those
anytime whether I download the entire group or not.

If you think you'll read 12,483 posts go ahead and download them.
Otherwise, you might want to try out Catch Up too.

>> A good site to learn more about Outlook Express (mail and newsgroup
>> topics) is at: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com
>
>Yes I am going there to have a good read and hopefully stop having to pester
>you.

You're not a pest. Would rather spend a bit of time getting someone
going in OE (or any newsreader) than to have them continue accessing the
groups with the web interface! Even though there's a bit of a learning
curve, a newsreader is a lot less frustrating in the long run and a more
efficient tool.

>> There is also an OutlookExpress group on this server:
>>
>news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
>
>Yes I discovered that shortly after I posted the follow up question to you
>on this thread.As the follow up question was not on the exact same topic as
>the OP I wasn't sure that you would reply so I posted the same (new)
>question at OE6 NG.

I flag all messages that I reply to so that if there is a new response
in that thread, the newsreader marks them to grab my attention. That's
one of those other features you'll learn more about as you get more
comfortable using a newsreader.

>--
>Kind Regards,
>David

Right back at ya, David. Good luck with OE.

Sharon F
MS MVP [Shell/User]

[David Lewis]

Sharon F wrote:

> I have message rules that mark posts older than 3 days as read. If I
> reset a newsgroup, I get the initial xxx amount of posts and then do a
> "catch up" to avoid downloading the backlog of headers. Only new
> messages download after that.

The posts older than 3 days are presumably marked as read on the server so
they don't D/load.Does it matter if you have lots of unread headers on you
hdd?


> I save insteresting posts as I find them to folders. Can read those
> anytime whether I download the entire group or not.

Great idea,have now done the same


> I flag all messages that I reply to so that if there is a new response
> in that thread, the newsreader marks them to grab my attention. That's
> one of those other features you'll learn more about as you get more
> comfortable using a newsreader.

Do you mean "flag" or "watch". I recently created a newsrule to mark as
watched any post From myself (talk about pushing the envelope :o) )

>> --
>> Kind Regards,
>> David
>
> Right back at ya, David. Good luck with OE.

Once again thanks for your kind assistance and great patience!!


--
Kind Regards,
David

[David Lewis]

Sharon F wrote:

> I have message rules that mark posts older than 3 days as read. If I
> reset a newsgroup, I get the initial xxx amount of posts and then do a
> "catch up" to avoid downloading the backlog of headers. Only new
> messages download after that.

The posts older than 3 days are presumably marked as read on the server so
they don't D/load.Does it matter if you have lots of unread headers on you
hdd?


> I save insteresting posts as I find them to folders. Can read those
> anytime whether I download the entire group or not.

Great idea,have now done the same


> I flag all messages that I reply to so that if there is a new response
> in that thread, the newsreader marks them to grab my attention. That's
> one of those other features you'll learn more about as you get more
> comfortable using a newsreader.

Do you mean "flag" or "watch". I recently created a newsrule to mark as
watched any post From myself (talk about pushing the envelope :o) )

>> --
>> Kind Regards,
>> David
>
> Right back at ya, David. Good luck with OE.

Once again thanks for your kind assistance and great patience!!


--
Kind Regards,
David

[Sharon F]

On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 17:27:12 +1000, "David Lewis"
> wrote:

>Sharon F wrote:
>
>> I have message rules that mark posts older than 3 days as read. If I
>> reset a newsgroup, I get the initial xxx amount of posts and then do a
>> "catch up" to avoid downloading the backlog of headers. Only new
>> messages download after that.
>
>The posts older than 3 days are presumably marked as read on the server so
>they don't D/load.Does it matter if you have lots of unread headers on you
>hdd?

I let them download so that I have the headers (just in case I want to
check back in a thread for more history).


>> I save insteresting posts as I find them to folders. Can read those
>> anytime whether I download the entire group or not.
>
>Great idea,have now done the same
>
>
>> I flag all messages that I reply to so that if there is a new response
>> in that thread, the newsreader marks them to grab my attention. That's
>> one of those other features you'll learn more about as you get more
>> comfortable using a newsreader.
>
>Do you mean "flag" or "watch". I recently created a newsrule to mark as
>watched any post From myself (talk about pushing the envelope :o) )

Both. In OE, I use a rule to mark posts I've made in a certain color so
I don't think you're pushing the envelope at all. ;) I also have colors
set for folks that I enjoy reading posts from on a regular basis. I use
the color codes in conjunction with an add-on called "OE Tools" (link to
download at the insideoe site mentioned before). It adds toolbar button
that causes OE to show only threads that I have participated in.

In Agent (I bounce back and forth between OE and Agent - like them both
for different reasons), I use the "Watch Thread" rule to highlight
threads I'm interested in or that may need follow up.

>>> --
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> David
>>
>> Right back at ya, David. Good luck with OE.
>
>Once again thanks for your kind assistance and great patience!!

You're most welcome :)
Sharon F
MS MVP [Shell/User]

[Sharon F]

On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 17:27:12 +1000, "David Lewis"
> wrote:

>Sharon F wrote:
>
>> I have message rules that mark posts older than 3 days as read. If I
>> reset a newsgroup, I get the initial xxx amount of posts and then do a
>> "catch up" to avoid downloading the backlog of headers. Only new
>> messages download after that.
>
>The posts older than 3 days are presumably marked as read on the server so
>they don't D/load.Does it matter if you have lots of unread headers on you
>hdd?

I let them download so that I have the headers (just in case I want to
check back in a thread for more history).


>> I save insteresting posts as I find them to folders. Can read those
>> anytime whether I download the entire group or not.
>
>Great idea,have now done the same
>
>
>> I flag all messages that I reply to so that if there is a new response
>> in that thread, the newsreader marks them to grab my attention. That's
>> one of those other features you'll learn more about as you get more
>> comfortable using a newsreader.
>
>Do you mean "flag" or "watch". I recently created a newsrule to mark as
>watched any post From myself (talk about pushing the envelope :o) )

Both. In OE, I use a rule to mark posts I've made in a certain color so
I don't think you're pushing the envelope at all. ;) I also have colors
set for folks that I enjoy reading posts from on a regular basis. I use
the color codes in conjunction with an add-on called "OE Tools" (link to
download at the insideoe site mentioned before). It adds toolbar button
that causes OE to show only threads that I have participated in.

In Agent (I bounce back and forth between OE and Agent - like them both
for different reasons), I use the "Watch Thread" rule to highlight
threads I'm interested in or that may need follow up.

>>> --
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> David
>>
>> Right back at ya, David. Good luck with OE.
>
>Once again thanks for your kind assistance and great patience!!

You're most welcome :)
Sharon F
MS MVP [Shell/User]

[David Lewis]

Once again,Thanks again :)

--
Kind Regards,
David

Sharon F wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 17:27:12 +1000, "David Lewis"
> > wrote:
>
>> Sharon F wrote:
>>
>>> I have message rules that mark posts older than 3 days as read. If I
>>> reset a newsgroup, I get the initial xxx amount of posts and then
>>> do a "catch up" to avoid downloading the backlog of headers. Only
>>> new messages download after that.
>>
>> The posts older than 3 days are presumably marked as read on the
>> server so they don't D/load.Does it matter if you have lots of
>> unread headers on you hdd?
>
> I let them download so that I have the headers (just in case I want to
> check back in a thread for more history).
>
>
>>> I save insteresting posts as I find them to folders. Can read those
>>> anytime whether I download the entire group or not.
>>
>> Great idea,have now done the same
>>
>>
>>> I flag all messages that I reply to so that if there is a new
>>> response in that thread, the newsreader marks them to grab my
>>> attention. That's one of those other features you'll learn more
>>> about as you get more comfortable using a newsreader.
>>
>> Do you mean "flag" or "watch". I recently created a newsrule to mark
>> as watched any post From myself (talk about pushing the envelope :o)
>> )
>
> Both. In OE, I use a rule to mark posts I've made in a certain color
> so
> I don't think you're pushing the envelope at all. ;) I also have
> colors set for folks that I enjoy reading posts from on a regular
> basis. I use the color codes in conjunction with an add-on called "OE
> Tools" (link to download at the insideoe site mentioned before). It
> adds toolbar button that causes OE to show only threads that I have
> participated in.
>
> In Agent (I bounce back and forth between OE and Agent - like them
> both for different reasons), I use the "Watch Thread" rule to
> highlight
> threads I'm interested in or that may need follow up.
>
>>>> --
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> David
>>>
>>> Right back at ya, David. Good luck with OE.
>>
>> Once again thanks for your kind assistance and great patience!!
>
> You're most welcome :)
> Sharon F
> MS MVP [Shell/User]

[David Lewis]

Once again,Thanks again :)

--
Kind Regards,
David

Sharon F wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 17:27:12 +1000, "David Lewis"
> > wrote:
>
>> Sharon F wrote:
>>
>>> I have message rules that mark posts older than 3 days as read. If I
>>> reset a newsgroup, I get the initial xxx amount of posts and then
>>> do a "catch up" to avoid downloading the backlog of headers. Only
>>> new messages download after that.
>>
>> The posts older than 3 days are presumably marked as read on the
>> server so they don't D/load.Does it matter if you have lots of
>> unread headers on you hdd?
>
> I let them download so that I have the headers (just in case I want to
> check back in a thread for more history).
>
>
>>> I save insteresting posts as I find them to folders. Can read those
>>> anytime whether I download the entire group or not.
>>
>> Great idea,have now done the same
>>
>>
>>> I flag all messages that I reply to so that if there is a new
>>> response in that thread, the newsreader marks them to grab my
>>> attention. That's one of those other features you'll learn more
>>> about as you get more comfortable using a newsreader.
>>
>> Do you mean "flag" or "watch". I recently created a newsrule to mark
>> as watched any post From myself (talk about pushing the envelope :o)
>> )
>
> Both. In OE, I use a rule to mark posts I've made in a certain color
> so
> I don't think you're pushing the envelope at all. ;) I also have
> colors set for folks that I enjoy reading posts from on a regular
> basis. I use the color codes in conjunction with an add-on called "OE
> Tools" (link to download at the insideoe site mentioned before). It
> adds toolbar button that causes OE to show only threads that I have
> participated in.
>
> In Agent (I bounce back and forth between OE and Agent - like them
> both for different reasons), I use the "Watch Thread" rule to
> highlight
> threads I'm interested in or that may need follow up.
>
>>>> --
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> David
>>>
>>> Right back at ya, David. Good luck with OE.
>>
>> Once again thanks for your kind assistance and great patience!!
>
> You're most welcome :)
> Sharon F
> MS MVP [Shell/User]