How to Backup? How to be Administrator? Still Locked out.

[Tall_Man]

I posted this before, but no solution yet.
this must be a serious Microsoft blunder, that something as simple as a backup, becomes impossible to do.

I have backed up my older computers hundereds of times. Now, Microsoft insists on users losing thier datsa by porhibiting use of the backup.

To repeat:

My XP Home computer will not let me do a backup.

There is never a screen that asks me to log on as administrator.

When i try to back up on my D drive (a combo dvd cd rw drive), its says its not allowed to be used.
When i try to backup to my E drive, (a CD rw drive), it says, something like "BAckup fle can not be used. Ensure valid path, and that you ahve valid access."

Do I have to logon as administrator to backup? If so, how do I logon as Administrator?

I am the only user of my computer. It never gives me a choice to be administator, so I guess I am administrator, but then backup questions this, saying, for me to make sure I ahve valid access.

I have looked thru help, but it doesnt finish the whole answer. It only talks in generalities, from what I can find in help.

Apparently, the backup utilty IS on my home XP edition, and on my computer. I can see it as a removeable program, in the add and remove sector.

But it refuses to let me use the CD dive to save my data. It wants me to use the A:, which will only hold, less than 1/15 of the data I need to backup.

Does it wnat me to put some administrato coded floopy disk in the A: drive, so it can approve me to do backups?

If so, it never asked me to make a A; drive floopy disk, to be an administrator.

Again, I am the only person using this computer, so I should the the administrator all the tiem anyway, and access to backup should not be blocked. But it is.

Does anyone know whay microsoft makde this so difficult to do such a simple thing as backup?

In my earlier replys, 7 of them, no one has been able to solve this problem with a specific answer that exactly allows one to do this process.. I don't want a puzzle, I just want to simply backup my data like I have done hundreds of times before, on previ
ous computers.

One who gave info on this, but did not solve it, said that using backup would not be allowed with system restore, or something like that. What is that about? To use this backup, which can't be used, would lock up the system resotre feature of XP?

This must be a very HUGE Anoyance to XP customers that will cause them to tell others DONT BUY XP and DONT BUY A COMPUTER WITH XP!

IIF seven people, replying earlier cant slove this basic simple 2nd grade problem, think of the BADWILL Microsoft has created in the universe of users out there.

I cant believe Bill Gates knows about this. He would never have allowed this to occur. And would have fired the people that caoused ti to occur long ago.

[Peter Hutchison]

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 00:11:06 -0800, "Tall_Man"
> wrote:

>I posted this before, but no solution yet.
>this must be a serious Microsoft blunder, that something as simple as a backup, becomes impossible to do.
>
>I have backed up my older computers hundereds of times. Now, Microsoft insists on users losing thier datsa by porhibiting use of the backup.
>
>To repeat:
>
>My XP Home computer will not let me do a backup.
>
>There is never a screen that asks me to log on as administrator.
>
>When i try to back up on my D drive (a combo dvd cd rw drive), its says its not allowed to be used.
>When i try to backup to my E drive, (a CD rw drive), it says, something like "BAckup fle can not be used. Ensure valid path, and that you ahve valid access."

You CANNOT backup direct to CD R/RW with NTBackup, you must backup to
disk THEN burn the backup file to CDR/RW.

>Do I have to logon as administrator to backup? If so, how do I logon as Administrator?

Preferably, if only backing up your own user data then no.

>I am the only user of my computer. It never gives me a choice to be administator, so I guess I am administrator, but then backup questions this, saying, for me to make sure I ahve valid access.

To clear things up, there is an 'Administrator' user with
administrator rights.
You can ALSO have users with administrator rights.
The first user added 'usually' has administrator rights.
You can check this in User Accounts control panel.
At the bottom it will list the users and underneath it will either say
'Computer administrator' or 'Limited account'.

>I have looked thru help, but it doesnt finish the whole answer. It only talks in generalities, from what I can find in help.
>
>Apparently, the backup utilty IS on my home XP edition, and on my computer. I can see it as a removeable program, in the add and remove sector.
>
>But it refuses to let me use the CD dive to save my data. It wants me to use the A:, which will only hold, less than 1/15 of the data I need to backup.

Correct, NTBackup is designed to backup to Tape or Disk NOT CD. If you
want to backup to CD then you need another backup program that can do
it. E.g. Retrospec Pro from www.dantz.com


>Does it wnat me to put some administrato coded floopy disk in the A: drive, so it can approve me to do backups?
>
>If so, it never asked me to make a A; drive floopy disk, to be an administrator.
>
>Again, I am the only person using this computer, so I should the the administrator all the tiem anyway, and access to backup should not be blocked. But it is.
>
>Does anyone know whay microsoft makde this so difficult to do such a simple thing as backup?

The backup program was not updated from NT/2000 to use CDR/RWs. IT
will allow third party companies to provide better programs.

>In my earlier replys, 7 of them, no one has been able to solve this problem with a specific answer that exactly allows one to do this process.. I don't want a puzzle, I just want to simply backup my data like I have done hundreds of times before, on prev
ious computers.
>
>One who gave info on this, but did not solve it, said that using backup would not be allowed with system restore, or something like that. What is that about? To use this backup, which can't be used, would lock up the system resotre feature of XP?
>
>This must be a very HUGE Anoyance to XP customers that will cause them to tell others DONT BUY XP and DONT BUY A COMPUTER WITH XP!
>
>IIF seven people, replying earlier cant slove this basic simple 2nd grade problem, think of the BADWILL Microsoft has created in the universe of users out there.
>
>I cant believe Bill Gates knows about this. He would never have allowed this to occur. And would have fired the people that caoused ti to occur long ago.

Peter Hutchison
Windows FAQ
http://www.pcguru.plus.com/

[Lawrence]

If this is a "Second Grade" problem, what grade did you complete?????

B.Gates



"Peter Hutchison" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 00:11:06 -0800, "Tall_Man"
> > wrote:
>
> >I posted this before, but no solution yet.
> >this must be a serious Microsoft blunder, that something as simple as a
backup, becomes impossible to do.
> >
> >I have backed up my older computers hundereds of times. Now, Microsoft
insists on users losing thier datsa by porhibiting use of the backup.
> >
> >To repeat:
> >
> >My XP Home computer will not let me do a backup.
> >
> >There is never a screen that asks me to log on as administrator.
> >
> >When i try to back up on my D drive (a combo dvd cd rw drive), its says
its not allowed to be used.
> >When i try to backup to my E drive, (a CD rw drive), it says, something
like "BAckup fle can not be used. Ensure valid path, and that you ahve
valid access."
>
> You CANNOT backup direct to CD R/RW with NTBackup, you must backup to
> disk THEN burn the backup file to CDR/RW.
>
> >Do I have to logon as administrator to backup? If so, how do I logon as
Administrator?
>
> Preferably, if only backing up your own user data then no.
>
> >I am the only user of my computer. It never gives me a choice to be
administator, so I guess I am administrator, but then backup questions this,
saying, for me to make sure I ahve valid access.
>
> To clear things up, there is an 'Administrator' user with
> administrator rights.
> You can ALSO have users with administrator rights.
> The first user added 'usually' has administrator rights.
> You can check this in User Accounts control panel.
> At the bottom it will list the users and underneath it will either say
> 'Computer administrator' or 'Limited account'.
>
> >I have looked thru help, but it doesnt finish the whole answer. It only
talks in generalities, from what I can find in help.
> >
> >Apparently, the backup utilty IS on my home XP edition, and on my
computer. I can see it as a removeable program, in the add and remove
sector.
> >
> >But it refuses to let me use the CD dive to save my data. It wants me to
use the A:, which will only hold, less than 1/15 of the data I need to
backup.
>
> Correct, NTBackup is designed to backup to Tape or Disk NOT CD. If you
> want to backup to CD then you need another backup program that can do
> it. E.g. Retrospec Pro from www.dantz.com
>
>
> >Does it wnat me to put some administrato coded floopy disk in the A:
drive, so it can approve me to do backups?
> >
> >If so, it never asked me to make a A; drive floopy disk, to be an
administrator.
> >
> >Again, I am the only person using this computer, so I should the the
administrator all the tiem anyway, and access to backup should not be
blocked. But it is.
> >
> >Does anyone know whay microsoft makde this so difficult to do such a
simple thing as backup?
>
> The backup program was not updated from NT/2000 to use CDR/RWs. IT
> will allow third party companies to provide better programs.
>
> >In my earlier replys, 7 of them, no one has been able to solve this
problem with a specific answer that exactly allows one to do this process..
I don't want a puzzle, I just want to simply backup my data like I have done
hundreds of times before, on previous computers.
> >
> >One who gave info on this, but did not solve it, said that using backup
would not be allowed with system restore, or something like that. What is
that about? To use this backup, which can't be used, would lock up the
system resotre feature of XP?
> >
> >This must be a very HUGE Anoyance to XP customers that will cause them to
tell others DONT BUY XP and DONT BUY A COMPUTER WITH XP!
> >
> >IIF seven people, replying earlier cant slove this basic simple 2nd grade
problem, think of the BADWILL Microsoft has created in the universe of users
out there.
> >
> >I cant believe Bill Gates knows about this. He would never have allowed
this to occur. And would have fired the people that caoused ti to occur
long ago.
>
> Peter Hutchison
> Windows FAQ
> http://www.pcguru.plus.com/

[Lawrence]

It seems as thought you are the one trying so hard to complicate things. My
heavens, just put a blank CD-R in the writer and drag the backupfiles over
to it!! Then click on "Write files to CD"
Don't blame Microsoft if you don't want to take the time to read the
directions. Goosness sakes, read a few pages of the help and support files.
If you are too LAZY to do that maybe you could find the energy to go to
www,google.com and search for some freeware programs that will do it all for
you.

Lawrence

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"Peter Hutchison" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 00:11:06 -0800, "Tall_Man"
> > wrote:
>
> >I posted this before, but no solution yet.
> >this must be a serious Microsoft blunder, that something as simple as a
backup, becomes impossible to do.
> >
> >I have backed up my older computers hundereds of times. Now, Microsoft
insists on users losing thier datsa by porhibiting use of the backup.
> >
> >To repeat:
> >
> >My XP Home computer will not let me do a backup.
> >
> >There is never a screen that asks me to log on as administrator.
> >
> >When i try to back up on my D drive (a combo dvd cd rw drive), its says
its not allowed to be used.
> >When i try to backup to my E drive, (a CD rw drive), it says, something
like "BAckup fle can not be used. Ensure valid path, and that you ahve
valid access."
>
> You CANNOT backup direct to CD R/RW with NTBackup, you must backup to
> disk THEN burn the backup file to CDR/RW.
>
> >Do I have to logon as administrator to backup? If so, how do I logon as
Administrator?
>
> Preferably, if only backing up your own user data then no.
>
> >I am the only user of my computer. It never gives me a choice to be
administator, so I guess I am administrator, but then backup questions this,
saying, for me to make sure I ahve valid access.
>
> To clear things up, there is an 'Administrator' user with
> administrator rights.
> You can ALSO have users with administrator rights.
> The first user added 'usually' has administrator rights.
> You can check this in User Accounts control panel.
> At the bottom it will list the users and underneath it will either say
> 'Computer administrator' or 'Limited account'.
>
> >I have looked thru help, but it doesnt finish the whole answer. It only
talks in generalities, from what I can find in help.
> >
> >Apparently, the backup utilty IS on my home XP edition, and on my
computer. I can see it as a removeable program, in the add and remove
sector.
> >
> >But it refuses to let me use the CD dive to save my data. It wants me to
use the A:, which will only hold, less than 1/15 of the data I need to
backup.
>
> Correct, NTBackup is designed to backup to Tape or Disk NOT CD. If you
> want to backup to CD then you need another backup program that can do
> it. E.g. Retrospec Pro from www.dantz.com
>
>
> >Does it wnat me to put some administrato coded floopy disk in the A:
drive, so it can approve me to do backups?
> >
> >If so, it never asked me to make a A; drive floopy disk, to be an
administrator.
> >
> >Again, I am the only person using this computer, so I should the the
administrator all the tiem anyway, and access to backup should not be
blocked. But it is.
> >
> >Does anyone know whay microsoft makde this so difficult to do such a
simple thing as backup?
>
> The backup program was not updated from NT/2000 to use CDR/RWs. IT
> will allow third party companies to provide better programs.
>
> >In my earlier replys, 7 of them, no one has been able to solve this
problem with a specific answer that exactly allows one to do this process..
I don't want a puzzle, I just want to simply backup my data like I have done
hundreds of times before, on previous computers.
> >
> >One who gave info on this, but did not solve it, said that using backup
would not be allowed with system restore, or something like that. What is
that about? To use this backup, which can't be used, would lock up the
system resotre feature of XP?
> >
> >This must be a very HUGE Anoyance to XP customers that will cause them to
tell others DONT BUY XP and DONT BUY A COMPUTER WITH XP!
> >
> >IIF seven people, replying earlier cant slove this basic simple 2nd grade
problem, think of the BADWILL Microsoft has created in the universe of users
out there.
> >
> >I cant believe Bill Gates knows about this. He would never have allowed
this to occur. And would have fired the people that caoused ti to occur
long ago.
>
> Peter Hutchison
> Windows FAQ
> http://www.pcguru.plus.com/

[J.D. Wall]

Working on WXP-Pro, I've done the backup according to the instructions to my
D disk which produced a file of over 1gb. How can I copy this over to a cd
in order to store it away from my computer?

Thanks.
JDW

"Kaylene aka Taurarian" > wrote in message
...
> Perhaps this will help:
>
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308422
> HOW TO: Use Backup to Back Up Files and Folders on Your Computer in
Windows XP
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315255
> Windows Backup Does Not Back Up to CD-R, CD-RW, or DVD-R Devices
>
> If you can't get the backup utility to recognise your CD-RW see this link
for a
> Work around:
> http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/saving_files_to_cd.htm
>
> Saving files to CD-R or CD-R/W
>
>
>
> "Tall_Man" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I posted this before, but no solution yet.
> > this must be a serious Microsoft blunder, that something as simple as a
> backup, becomes impossible to do.
> >
> > I have backed up my older computers hundereds of times. Now, Microsoft
> insists on users losing thier datsa by porhibiting use of the backup.
> >
> > To repeat:
> >
> > My XP Home computer will not let me do a backup.
> >
> > There is never a screen that asks me to log on as administrator.
> >
> > When i try to back up on my D drive (a combo dvd cd rw drive), its says
its
> not allowed to be used.
> > When i try to backup to my E drive, (a CD rw drive), it says, something
like
> "BAckup fle can not be used. Ensure valid path, and that you ahve valid
> access."
> >
> > Do I have to logon as administrator to backup? If so, how do I logon as
> Administrator?
> >
> > I am the only user of my computer. It never gives me a choice to be
> administator, so I guess I am administrator, but then backup questions
this,
> saying, for me to make sure I ahve valid access.
> >
> > I have looked thru help, but it doesnt finish the whole answer. It only
talks
> in generalities, from what I can find in help.
> >
> > Apparently, the backup utilty IS on my home XP edition, and on my
computer. I
> can see it as a removeable program, in the add and remove sector.
> >
> > But it refuses to let me use the CD dive to save my data. It wants me
to use
> the A:, which will only hold, less than 1/15 of the data I need to backup.
> >
> > Does it wnat me to put some administrato coded floopy disk in the A:
drive, so
> it can approve me to do backups?
> >
> > If so, it never asked me to make a A; drive floopy disk, to be an
> administrator.
> >
> > Again, I am the only person using this computer, so I should the the
> administrator all the tiem anyway, and access to backup should not be
blocked.
> But it is.
> >
> > Does anyone know whay microsoft makde this so difficult to do such a
simple
> thing as backup?
> >
> > In my earlier replys, 7 of them, no one has been able to solve this
problem
> with a specific answer that exactly allows one to do this process.. I
don't
> want a puzzle, I just want to simply backup my data like I have done
hundreds of
> times before, on previous computers.
> >
> > One who gave info on this, but did not solve it, said that using backup
would
> not be allowed with system restore, or something like that. What is that
about?
> To use this backup, which can't be used, would lock up the system resotre
> feature of XP?
> >
> > This must be a very HUGE Anoyance to XP customers that will cause them
to tell
> others DONT BUY XP and DONT BUY A COMPUTER WITH XP!
> >
> > IIF seven people, replying earlier cant slove this basic simple 2nd
grade
> problem, think of the BADWILL Microsoft has created in the universe of
users out
> there.
> >
> > I cant believe Bill Gates knows about this. He would never have allowed
this
> to occur. And would have fired the people that caoused ti to occur long
ago.
> >
>

[Peter Hutchison]

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:18:51 +0200, "J.D. Wall"
> wrote:

>Working on WXP-Pro, I've done the backup according to the instructions to my
>D disk which produced a file of over 1gb. How can I copy this over to a cd
>in order to store it away from my computer?
>
Drag the file to the CDRW drive in Explore, then select Burn files to
CD from the File menu.

make sure you have enough room in buffer for the 1Gb file to do this.

Peter Hutchison
Windows FAQ
http://www.pcguru.plus.com/

[Gordon]

"Peter Hutchison" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:18:51 +0200, "J.D. Wall"
> > wrote:
>
> >Working on WXP-Pro, I've done the backup according to the instructions to
my
> >D disk which produced a file of over 1gb. How can I copy this over to a
cd
> >in order to store it away from my computer?
> >
> Drag the file to the CDRW drive in Explore, then select Burn files to
> CD from the File menu.

And does the XP CDRW program allow spanning of CD's? I don't think so.