Microsoft sends viruses? [Archive]

Chris Lanier [MVP]

February 27th 04, 11:43 PM

Hotmail said no such thing. And Microsoft had nothing to do with you
getting it. Please *never* post your real e-mail in
newsgroups/websites/etc.

About E-mail Addresses and Privacy
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/privacy.mspx

--
Chris Lanier
Microsoft MVP - Digital Media
--
"Lambert +++++++" > wrote in message
...
> I received in my hotmail inbox a message From "Technical Support" with
the
> object: " newest Microsoft patch".
>
> I didn't open this mail and tried to block it. But Hotmail says that
> messages from Microsoft cannot be blocked.
>
> Than I copied this message to my outlook inbox and my virus scanner told
me
> not to open because the attachment contains a virus!
>
> Conclusion: Microsoft sends viruses.
>
>
>
> Lambert
>
>

Alan

February 27th 04, 11:43 PM

Are you trolling, Lambert? Or are you always this stupid?

Alan

"Lambert +++++++" > wrote in message
...
> I received in my hotmail inbox a message From "Technical Support" with
the
> object: " newest Microsoft patch".
>
> I didn't open this mail and tried to block it. But Hotmail says that
> messages from Microsoft cannot be blocked.
>
> Than I copied this message to my outlook inbox and my virus scanner told
me
> not to open because the attachment contains a virus!
>
> Conclusion: Microsoft sends viruses.
>
>
>
> Lambert
>
>

Ken Blake, MVP

February 28th 04, 12:04 AM

In ,
Lambert +++++++ > typed:

> I received in my hotmail inbox a message From "Technical
Support"
> with the object: " newest Microsoft patch".
>
> I didn't open this mail and tried to block it. But Hotmail says
that
> messages from Microsoft cannot be blocked.
>
> Than I copied this message to my outlook inbox and my virus
scanner
> told me not to open because the attachment contains a virus!
>
> Conclusion: Microsoft sends viruses.

Your conclusion is false. The correct conclusion is that the
message is not from Microsoft.

You should be aware that Microsoft never sends patches by E-mail.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Lambert

February 28th 04, 12:22 AM

Hotmail did. If Microsoft has nothing to with it, then the Hotmail blocking
program failed.
BTW thanks for your advice.
Lambert
"Chris Lanier [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Hotmail said no such thing. And Microsoft had nothing to do with you
> getting it. Please *never* post your real e-mail in
> newsgroups/websites/etc.
>
> About E-mail Addresses and Privacy
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/privacy.mspx
>
> --
> Chris Lanier
> Microsoft MVP - Digital Media
> --
> "Lambert +++++++" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I received in my hotmail inbox a message From "Technical Support" with
> the
> > object: " newest Microsoft patch".
> >
> > I didn't open this mail and tried to block it. But Hotmail says that
> > messages from Microsoft cannot be blocked.
> >
> > Than I copied this message to my outlook inbox and my virus scanner told
> me
> > not to open because the attachment contains a virus!
> >
> > Conclusion: Microsoft sends viruses.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lambert
> >
> >
>
>

Lambert

February 28th 04, 12:22 AM

No I am not. First think and than act.
Read my posting again and take it seriously.
Lambert
"Alan" > wrote in message
...
> Are you trolling, Lambert? Or are you always this stupid?
>
> Alan
>
> "Lambert +++++++" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I received in my hotmail inbox a message From "Technical Support" with
> the
> > object: " newest Microsoft patch".
> >
> > I didn't open this mail and tried to block it. But Hotmail says that
> > messages from Microsoft cannot be blocked.
> >
> > Than I copied this message to my outlook inbox and my virus scanner told
> me
> > not to open because the attachment contains a virus!
> >
> > Conclusion: Microsoft sends viruses.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lambert
> >
> >
>
>

Lambert

February 28th 04, 12:44 AM

I found back the message of the virus scanner:
Bijlagebestand : install9.exe

Gedetecteerd als : W32/Swen@MM

Uitgevoerde actie : Verwijderd...

Microsoft All Products | Support | Search | Microsoft.com Guide

Microsoft Home

Microsoft User

this is the latest version of security update, the "February 2004,
Cumulative Patch" update which eliminates all known security vulnerabilities
affecting MS Internet Explorer, MS Outlook and MS Outlook Express as well as
three newly discovered vulnerabilities. Install now to maintain the security
of your computer from these vulnerabilities, the most serious of which could
allow an malicious user to run code on your computer.

System requirements Windows 95/98/Me/2000/NT/XP

This update applies to MS Internet Explorer, version 4.01 and later

MS Outlook, version 8.00 and later

MS Outlook Express, version 4.01 and later

Recommendation Customers should install the patch at the earliest
opportunity.

How to install Run attached file. Choose Yes on displayed dialog box.

How to use You don't need to do anything after installing this item.

Microsoft Product Support Services and Knowledge Base articles can be found
on the Microsoft Technical Support web site. For security-related
information about Microsoft products, please visit the Microsoft Security
Advisor web site, or Contact Us.

Thank you for using Microsoft products.

Please do not reply to this message. It was sent from an unmonitored e-mail
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"Chris Lanier [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> Hotmail said no such thing. And Microsoft had nothing to do with you
> getting it. Please *never* post your real e-mail in
> newsgroups/websites/etc.
>
> About E-mail Addresses and Privacy
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/privacy.mspx
>
> --
> Chris Lanier
> Microsoft MVP - Digital Media
> --
> "Lambert +++++++" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I received in my hotmail inbox a message From "Technical Support" with
> the
> > object: " newest Microsoft patch".
> >
> > I didn't open this mail and tried to block it. But Hotmail says that
> > messages from Microsoft cannot be blocked.
> >
> > Than I copied this message to my outlook inbox and my virus scanner told
> me
> > not to open because the attachment contains a virus!
> >
> > Conclusion: Microsoft sends viruses.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lambert
> >
> >
>
>

Lambert

February 28th 04, 01:02 AM

"Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
...
> In ,
> Lambert +++++++ > typed:
>
> > I received in my hotmail inbox a message From "Technical
> Support"
> > with the object: " newest Microsoft patch".
> >
> > I didn't open this mail and tried to block it. But Hotmail says
> that
> > messages from Microsoft cannot be blocked.
> >
> > Than I copied this message to my outlook inbox and my virus
> scanner
> > told me not to open because the attachment contains a virus!
> >
> > Conclusion: Microsoft sends viruses.
>
>
> Your conclusion is false. The correct conclusion is that the
> message is not from Microsoft.
>
> You should be aware that Microsoft never sends patches by E-mail.
>
> --
> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> Please reply to the newsgroup
>
>
If so, someone else does.
In this case: someone else controls the function in Hotmail "block senders".

Lambert

Ken Blake, MVP

February 28th 04, 01:02 AM

In ,
Lambert <Gdog Gdog Gdog Gdog> typed:

> "Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in
message
> ...
>> In ,
>> Lambert +++++++ > typed:
>>
>> > I received in my hotmail inbox a message From "Technical
>> Support"
>> > with the object: " newest Microsoft patch".
>> >
>> > I didn't open this mail and tried to block it. But Hotmail
says
>> that
>> > messages from Microsoft cannot be blocked.
>> >
>> > Than I copied this message to my outlook inbox and my virus
>> scanner
>> > told me not to open because the attachment contains a virus!
>> >
>> > Conclusion: Microsoft sends viruses.
>>
>>
>> Your conclusion is false. The correct conclusion is that the
>> message is not from Microsoft.
>>
>> You should be aware that Microsoft never sends patches by
E-mail.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>> Please reply to the newsgroup
>>
>>
> If so, someone else does.

Of course. It's a common and well-known attempt to infect people.
It's probably Swen
(http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.swen
)

*Many* people have gotten similar messages.

> In this case: someone else controls the function in Hotmail
"block
> senders".

Although I know next to nothing about Hotmail, I doubt that very
much.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

dmac

February 28th 04, 01:46 AM

I haven't had that particular virus problem, but I have never been able to
block an email with microsoft in the address in my hotmail either. didn't
really look into it though.

--

David MacLeod
Etna, Maine USA
P4 2.8 OC to 3.13
1 GB DDR 466
Radeon 9800 Pro 256 MB
2 Seagate 120 RAID 0

"Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
...
> In ,
> Lambert <Gdog Gdog Gdog Gdog> typed:
>
> > "Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in
> message
> > ...
> >> In ,
> >> Lambert +++++++ > typed:
> >>
> >> > I received in my hotmail inbox a message From "Technical
> >> Support"
> >> > with the object: " newest Microsoft patch".
> >> >
> >> > I didn't open this mail and tried to block it. But Hotmail
> says
> >> that
> >> > messages from Microsoft cannot be blocked.
> >> >
> >> > Than I copied this message to my outlook inbox and my virus
> >> scanner
> >> > told me not to open because the attachment contains a virus!
> >> >
> >> > Conclusion: Microsoft sends viruses.
> >>
> >>
> >> Your conclusion is false. The correct conclusion is that the
> >> message is not from Microsoft.
> >>
> >> You should be aware that Microsoft never sends patches by
> E-mail.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> >> Please reply to the newsgroup
> >>
> >>
> > If so, someone else does.
>
>
> Of course. It's a common and well-known attempt to infect people.
> It's probably Swen
> (http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.swen
> )
>
> *Many* people have gotten similar messages.
>
>
> > In this case: someone else controls the function in Hotmail
> "block
> > senders".
>
>
> Although I know next to nothing about Hotmail, I doubt that very
> much.
>
> --
> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> Please reply to the newsgroup
>
>

Chris Lanier [MVP]

February 28th 04, 02:13 AM

The real sender is spoofing the senders name. Just because it says it's
from , it's really from

--
Chris Lanier
Microsoft MVP - Digital Media
--
"dmac" > wrote in message
...
> I haven't had that particular virus problem, but I have never been able to
> block an email with microsoft in the address in my hotmail either. didn't
> really look into it though.
>
> --
>
>
> David MacLeod
> Etna, Maine USA
> P4 2.8 OC to 3.13
> 1 GB DDR 466
> Radeon 9800 Pro 256 MB
> 2 Seagate 120 RAID 0
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In ,
> > Lambert <Gdog Gdog Gdog Gdog> typed:
> >
> > > "Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in
> > message
> > > ...
> > >> In ,
> > >> Lambert +++++++ > typed:
> > >>
> > >> > I received in my hotmail inbox a message From "Technical
> > >> Support"
> > >> > with the object: " newest Microsoft patch".
> > >> >
> > >> > I didn't open this mail and tried to block it. But Hotmail
> > says
> > >> that
> > >> > messages from Microsoft cannot be blocked.
> > >> >
> > >> > Than I copied this message to my outlook inbox and my virus
> > >> scanner
> > >> > told me not to open because the attachment contains a virus!
> > >> >
> > >> > Conclusion: Microsoft sends viruses.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Your conclusion is false. The correct conclusion is that the
> > >> message is not from Microsoft.
> > >>
> > >> You should be aware that Microsoft never sends patches by
> > E-mail.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> > >> Please reply to the newsgroup
> > >>
> > >>
> > > If so, someone else does.
> >
> >
> > Of course. It's a common and well-known attempt to infect people.
> > It's probably Swen
> > (http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.swen
> > )
> >
> > *Many* people have gotten similar messages.
> >
> >
> > > In this case: someone else controls the function in Hotmail
> > "block
> > > senders".
> >
> >
> > Although I know next to nothing about Hotmail, I doubt that very
> > much.
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> > Please reply to the newsgroup
> >
> >
>

kurttrail

February 28th 04, 03:02 AM

Chris Lanier [MVP] wrote:

>> In this case: someone else controls the function in Hotmail "block
>> senders".
>
> The real sender is spoofing the senders name. Just because it says
> it's from , it's really from

I think the real problem here is that Hotmail allegedly let the virus get
through to the email recipient simply by spoofing MS's email address.

If this is true, MS really has some explaining to do.

--
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February 28th 04, 08:05 PM

I HAD to comment....Just wanted to tell you how tickled my
funny bone is after reading this string about the amazing
conclusion that Microsoft is dispensing infected e mail!
I think we need to enter into a class action suit against
these virus-infesting behemoths, Microsoft and Hotmail.
It's obviously a diabolical plot: MS sends out e mail
suggestions for updates which carry a virus. We get the
virus and turn to anti-virus companies who profit from our
subscriber fees. Microsoft & Hotmail collude with these
companies and they split the profits. Isn't it _obvious_??
Would even a Hollywood studio buy this?
How about the international Org., "World-wide Corporate
Conspiracies; They're Everywhere."
...Gotta LOVE Paranoia..wow..amazin'to read.

>-----Original Message-----
>Hotmail did. If Microsoft has nothing to with it, then
the Hotmail blocking
>program failed.
>BTW thanks for your advice.
>Lambert
>"Chris Lanier [MVP]" > wrote
in message
...
>> Hotmail said no such thing. And Microsoft had nothing
to do with you
>> getting it. Please *never* post your real e-mail in
>> newsgroups/websites/etc.
>>
>> About E-mail Addresses and Privacy
>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/privacy.mspx
>>
>> --
>> Chris Lanier
>> Microsoft MVP - Digital Media
>> --
>> "Lambert +++++++" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > I received in my hotmail inbox a message From
"Technical Support" with
>> the
>> > object: " newest Microsoft patch".
>> >
>> > I didn't open this mail and tried to block it. But
Hotmail says that
>> > messages from Microsoft cannot be blocked.
>> >
>> > Than I copied this message to my outlook inbox and my
virus scanner told
>> me
>> > not to open because the attachment contains a virus!
>> >
>> > Conclusion: Microsoft sends viruses.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Lambert
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>

Alex Nichol

February 28th 04, 08:44 PM

Lambert +++++++ wrote:

>I received in my hotmail inbox a message From "Technical Support" with the
>object: " newest Microsoft patch".
>
>I didn't open this mail and tried to block it. But Hotmail says that
>messages from Microsoft cannot be blocked.
>
>Than I copied this message to my outlook inbox and my virus scanner told me
>not to open because the attachment contains a virus!
>
>Conclusion: Microsoft sends viruses.

The fact that message is said to be 'from' someone does not mean that
it is. Many viruses and trojan worms 'spoof' the From/Reply headers in
messages so as to appear to be from someone different. As in this case.
Very often they pick one address out of the address book on an infected
machine to send them selves to; and another to appear as 'From'. So do
not assume a message from your closest friend is from him: it may well
have such a virus and come from some machine that knows you both.

--
Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)

Don Burnette

February 28th 04, 09:27 PM

kurttrail wrote:
> Chris Lanier [MVP] wrote:
>
>>> In this case: someone else controls the function in Hotmail "block
>>> senders".
>>
>> The real sender is spoofing the senders name. Just because it says
>> it's from , it's really from
>
> I think the real problem here is that Hotmail allegedly let the virus
> get through to the email recipient simply by spoofing MS's email
> address.
>
> If this is true, MS really has some explaining to do.

Miss computing 101 did you?

--
Don Burnette

Lambert

February 28th 04, 11:06 PM

But how to explain that the Hotmail feature to block e-mails says that it
cannot do so because the e-mail originates from MICROSOFT?

This e-mail contained the virus: W32/Swen@MM.

These are the facts.

> wrote in message
...
> I HAD to comment....Just wanted to tell you how tickled my
> funny bone is after reading this string about the amazing
> conclusion that Microsoft is dispensing infected e mail!
> I think we need to enter into a class action suit against
> these virus-infesting behemoths, Microsoft and Hotmail.
> It's obviously a diabolical plot: MS sends out e mail
> suggestions for updates which carry a virus. We get the
> virus and turn to anti-virus companies who profit from our
> subscriber fees. Microsoft & Hotmail collude with these
> companies and they split the profits. Isn't it _obvious_??
> Would even a Hollywood studio buy this?
> How about the international Org., "World-wide Corporate
> Conspiracies; They're Everywhere."
> ..Gotta LOVE Paranoia..wow..amazin'to read.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hotmail did. If Microsoft has nothing to with it, then
> the Hotmail blocking
> >program failed.
> >BTW thanks for your advice.
> >Lambert
> >"Chris Lanier [MVP]" > wrote
> in message
> ...
> >> Hotmail said no such thing. And Microsoft had nothing
> to do with you
> >> getting it. Please *never* post your real e-mail in
> >> newsgroups/websites/etc.
> >>
> >> About E-mail Addresses and Privacy
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/privacy.mspx
> >>
> >> --
> >> Chris Lanier
> >> Microsoft MVP - Digital Media
> >> --
> >> "Lambert +++++++" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > I received in my hotmail inbox a message From
> "Technical Support" with
> >> the
> >> > object: " newest Microsoft patch".
> >> >
> >> > I didn't open this mail and tried to block it. But
> Hotmail says that
> >> > messages from Microsoft cannot be blocked.
> >> >
> >> > Than I copied this message to my outlook inbox and my
> virus scanner told
> >> me
> >> > not to open because the attachment contains a virus!
> >> >
> >> > Conclusion: Microsoft sends viruses.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Lambert
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >

klan_rath

February 29th 04, 12:02 AM

Man this whole string is totaly GHEY !

stop whining about it .... microsoft does not send out patches through E-mail .... and hot mail will allow anything from that source ... the answere is simple ... somebody has ghosted microsoft's address ontop of their's . Done ... this whole lame post could have been avoided , and the idiot that opened the E-mail shouldn't be so blatently retarded ... and if he didn't open it up , then he should STFU ... stupid n00b !

Tom Pepper Willett

February 29th 04, 12:25 AM

kurttrail

February 29th 04, 02:41 PM

Tom Pepper Willett wrote:

> Because the From address has been spoofed. So, it thinks it's from
> MS, when it's not.

It's that easy to a virus thru Hotmail? Just spoofing an E-mail address?
MS ownes Hotmail, and collects fees for it's service, yet it has nothing in
place to veryify it's own messages?

If this is all true, MS has some real explaining to do!

--
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Steve N.

February 29th 04, 06:01 PM

Yes, Hollywood already bought it (or close enough) - remember "The Net"?

Steve

wrote:

> I HAD to comment....Just wanted to tell you how tickled my
> funny bone is after reading this string about the amazing
> conclusion that Microsoft is dispensing infected e mail!
> I think we need to enter into a class action suit against
> these virus-infesting behemoths, Microsoft and Hotmail.
> It's obviously a diabolical plot: MS sends out e mail
> suggestions for updates which carry a virus. We get the
> virus and turn to anti-virus companies who profit from our
> subscriber fees. Microsoft & Hotmail collude with these
> companies and they split the profits. Isn't it _obvious_??
> Would even a Hollywood studio buy this?
> How about the international Org., "World-wide Corporate
> Conspiracies; They're Everywhere."
> ..Gotta LOVE Paranoia..wow..amazin'to read.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hotmail did. If Microsoft has nothing to with it, then
>
> the Hotmail blocking
>
>>program failed.
>>BTW thanks for your advice.
>>Lambert
>>"Chris Lanier [MVP]" > wrote
>
> in message
>
...
>>
>>>Hotmail said no such thing. And Microsoft had nothing
>
> to do with you
>
>>>getting it. Please *never* post your real e-mail in
>>>newsgroups/websites/etc.
>>>
>>>About E-mail Addresses and Privacy
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/communities/privacy.mspx
>>>
>>>--
>>>Chris Lanier
>>>Microsoft MVP - Digital Media
>>>--
>>>"Lambert +++++++" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>I received in my hotmail inbox a message From
>
> "Technical Support" with
>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>object: " newest Microsoft patch".
>>>>
>>>>I didn't open this mail and tried to block it. But
>
> Hotmail says that
>
>>>>messages from Microsoft cannot be blocked.
>>>>
>>>>Than I copied this message to my outlook inbox and my
>
> virus scanner told
>
>>>me
>>>
>>>>not to open because the attachment contains a virus!
>>>>
>>>>Conclusion: Microsoft sends viruses.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Lambert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>.
>>

Sam Katz

March 1st 04, 02:43 AM

Sir,

You should contact Hotmail support. They should fix their software.

Microsoft does not send patches via e-mail--viruses may pretend they are
Microsoft e-mails. The only valid way to get patches is through
Microsoft Windows XP or 98/ME or the companion website,
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com.

--Sam
Lambert +++++++ wrote:
> I received in my hotmail inbox a message From "Technical Support" with the
> object: " newest Microsoft patch".
>
> I didn't open this mail and tried to block it. But Hotmail says that
> messages from Microsoft cannot be blocked.
>
> Than I copied this message to my outlook inbox and my virus scanner told me
> not to open because the attachment contains a virus!
>
> Conclusion: Microsoft sends viruses.
>
>
>
> Lambert
>
>

kurttrail

March 1st 04, 05:41 PM

Don Burnette wrote:

> kurttrail wrote:
>> Chris Lanier [MVP] wrote:
>>
>>>> In this case: someone else controls the function in Hotmail "block
>>>> senders".
>>>
>>> The real sender is spoofing the senders name. Just because it says
>>> it's from , it's really from
>>
>> I think the real problem here is that Hotmail allegedly let the virus
>> get through to the email recipient simply by spoofing MS's email
>> address.
>>
>> If this is true, MS really has some explaining to do.
>
>
>
> Miss computing 101 did you?

Excuse me? MS scans all Hotmail message that are received for viruses,
but all that the virus scumbags need to do is spoof a MS email address
to get a virus thru to hotmail.

Who is the one that missed computing 101? Me or MS?

--
Peace!
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Self-anointed Moderator
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