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Jim Eshelman
December 6th 03, 04:38 PM
Bill Gates and Jim Allchin unveiled much of the pre-alpha development of
Windows Longhorn, the next generation of Windows.

As a predictable result, there was a flood of new articles, from both
Microsoft and the media, on this subject. As well, MS launched a new set of
newsgroups on the subject, thogh aimedp rimarily at developers.

I've added over a dozen new items to my Longhorn information preview page,
and rearchitected the page. For those interested:

What's Next After Windows XP?
LONGHORN -- Select Articles

http://winsupportcenter.com/win5/a/longhorn.htm

PS - As much as I would enjoy the million or so extra hits to the page, let
me save someone of you some trouble: No, there are no pirated copies of
Longhorn linked off of this page. :)

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Noel Paton
December 6th 03, 04:38 PM
Nice one, Jim! (..and the page looks good too!)

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"Jim Eshelman" > wrote in message
...
> Bill Gates and Jim Allchin unveiled much of the pre-alpha development of
> Windows Longhorn, the next generation of Windows.
>
> As a predictable result, there was a flood of new articles, from both
> Microsoft and the media, on this subject. As well, MS launched a new set
of
> newsgroups on the subject, thogh aimedp rimarily at developers.
>
> I've added over a dozen new items to my Longhorn information preview page,
> and rearchitected the page. For those interested:
>
> What's Next After Windows XP?
> LONGHORN -- Select Articles
>
> http://winsupportcenter.com/win5/a/longhorn.htm
>
> PS - As much as I would enjoy the million or so extra hits to the page,
let
> me save someone of you some trouble: No, there are no pirated copies of
> Longhorn linked off of this page. :)
>
> --
> Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows
> http://aumha.org/
> http://forum.aumha.org/
>
>

Rob B
December 6th 03, 04:39 PM
yea...that's what i am looking for, a pirated copy of longhorn...buddy, it
hasn't even been fully developed.

"Jim Eshelman" > wrote in message
...
> Bill Gates and Jim Allchin unveiled much of the pre-alpha development of
> Windows Longhorn, the next generation of Windows.
>
> As a predictable result, there was a flood of new articles, from both
> Microsoft and the media, on this subject. As well, MS launched a new set
of
> newsgroups on the subject, thogh aimedp rimarily at developers.
>
> I've added over a dozen new items to my Longhorn information preview page,
> and rearchitected the page. For those interested:
>
> What's Next After Windows XP?
> LONGHORN -- Select Articles
>
> http://winsupportcenter.com/win5/a/longhorn.htm
>
> PS - As much as I would enjoy the million or so extra hits to the page,
let
> me save someone of you some trouble: No, there are no pirated copies of
> Longhorn linked off of this page. :)
>
> --
> Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows
> http://aumha.org/
> http://forum.aumha.org/
>
>

DonderFliegen
December 6th 03, 04:39 PM
"Rob B" > wrote in message
m...
> yea...that's what i am looking for, a pirated copy of longhorn...buddy, it
> hasn't even been fully developed.

True, but there are Alpha builds that people are trying to get their hands
on.
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Joan Archer
December 6th 03, 04:39 PM
Thanks for the link Jim, there's plenty of reading there to keep me out of
mischief <g>
Joan

"Jim Eshelman" > wrote in message
...
> Bill Gates and Jim Allchin unveiled much of the pre-alpha development of
> Windows Longhorn, the next generation of Windows.
>
> As a predictable result, there was a flood of new articles, from both
> Microsoft and the media, on this subject. As well, MS launched a new set
of
> newsgroups on the subject, thogh aimedp rimarily at developers.
>
> I've added over a dozen new items to my Longhorn information preview page,
> and rearchitected the page. For those interested:
>
> What's Next After Windows XP?
> LONGHORN -- Select Articles
>
> http://winsupportcenter.com/win5/a/longhorn.htm
>
> PS - As much as I would enjoy the million or so extra hits to the page,
let
> me save someone of you some trouble: No, there are no pirated copies of
> Longhorn linked off of this page. :)
>
> --
> Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows
> http://aumha.org/
> http://forum.aumha.org/
>
>

DonderFliegen
December 6th 03, 04:44 PM
"Jim Eshelman" > wrote in message
...

> As a predictable result, there was a flood of new articles, from both
> Microsoft and the media, on this subject. As well, MS launched a new set
of
> newsgroups on the subject, thogh aimedp rimarily at developers.

I think i don't understand something right.
Looking at the new NGs (haven't read them yet though), would it be safe to
say that the name of the finished product would be Windows FX?
If it is, it would be really early for a final name to have been decided
upon.
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Jim Eshelman
December 6th 03, 04:44 PM
DonderFliegen wrote:
> I think i don't understand something right.
> Looking at the new NGs (haven't read them yet though), would it be
> safe to say that the name of the finished product would be Windows FX?
> If it is, it would be really early for a final name to have been
> decided upon.

Windows FX is one of the components of the Windows version presently
code-named "Longhorn" (in the same way that Windows 95 was named "Chicago"
before its release.) If I've got it right, "WinFX" is "Windows Framework," a
new API set. (And it's easy to confuse on first pass with "WinFS" which is
"Windows File System", but they shouldn't be confused at all.)

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PCR
December 6th 03, 04:44 PM
For some reason, I'm interested in that one. But imagine how all the
XP-people must feel! After enduring XP-radiation induced brain ooze out
their ears all these months, they hear Longhorn is around the corner!
It's just like getting gored by a bull. Ah, ha, ha!

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"Jim Eshelman" > wrote in message
...
| Bill Gates and Jim Allchin unveiled much of the pre-alpha development
of
| Windows Longhorn, the next generation of Windows.
|
| As a predictable result, there was a flood of new articles, from both
| Microsoft and the media, on this subject. As well, MS launched a new
set of
| newsgroups on the subject, thogh aimedp rimarily at developers.
|
| I've added over a dozen new items to my Longhorn information preview
page,
| and rearchitected the page. For those interested:
|
| What's Next After Windows XP?
| LONGHORN -- Select Articles
|
| http://winsupportcenter.com/win5/a/longhorn.htm
|
| PS - As much as I would enjoy the million or so extra hits to the
page, let
| me save someone of you some trouble: No, there are no pirated copies
of
| Longhorn linked off of this page. :)
|
| --
| Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows
| http://aumha.org/
| http://forum.aumha.org/
|
|

Rob B
December 6th 03, 04:44 PM
that must make Bill Gates a trued sadist and us devotees true masochists...a
perfect symbiotic relationship.

"PCR" > wrote in message
...
> For some reason, I'm interested in that one. But imagine how all the
> XP-people must feel! After enduring XP-radiation induced brain ooze out
> their ears all these months, they hear Longhorn is around the corner!
> It's just like getting gored by a bull. Ah, ha, ha!
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
>
> "Jim Eshelman" > wrote in message
> ...
> | Bill Gates and Jim Allchin unveiled much of the pre-alpha development
> of
> | Windows Longhorn, the next generation of Windows.
> |
> | As a predictable result, there was a flood of new articles, from both
> | Microsoft and the media, on this subject. As well, MS launched a new
> set of
> | newsgroups on the subject, thogh aimedp rimarily at developers.
> |
> | I've added over a dozen new items to my Longhorn information preview
> page,
> | and rearchitected the page. For those interested:
> |
> | What's Next After Windows XP?
> | LONGHORN -- Select Articles
> |
> | http://winsupportcenter.com/win5/a/longhorn.htm
> |
> | PS - As much as I would enjoy the million or so extra hits to the
> page, let
> | me save someone of you some trouble: No, there are no pirated copies
> of
> | Longhorn linked off of this page. :)
> |
> | --
> | Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows
> | http://aumha.org/
> | http://forum.aumha.org/
> |
> |
>
>

PCR
December 6th 03, 04:44 PM
Yea. But they all were like that. Commodore did it too, not so much with
software but with hardware. I resisted back then, & I will continue to
resist now!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Rob B" > wrote in message
om...
| that must make Bill Gates a trued sadist and us devotees true
masochists...a
| perfect symbiotic relationship.
|
| "PCR" > wrote in message
| ...
| > For some reason, I'm interested in that one. But imagine how all the
| > XP-people must feel! After enduring XP-radiation induced brain ooze
out
| > their ears all these months, they hear Longhorn is around the
corner!
| > It's just like getting gored by a bull. Ah, ha, ha!
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| >
| > "Jim Eshelman" > wrote in message
| > ...
| > | Bill Gates and Jim Allchin unveiled much of the pre-alpha
development
| > of
| > | Windows Longhorn, the next generation of Windows.
| > |
| > | As a predictable result, there was a flood of new articles, from
both
| > | Microsoft and the media, on this subject. As well, MS launched a
new
| > set of
| > | newsgroups on the subject, thogh aimedp rimarily at developers.
| > |
| > | I've added over a dozen new items to my Longhorn information
preview
| > page,
| > | and rearchitected the page. For those interested:
| > |
| > | What's Next After Windows XP?
| > | LONGHORN -- Select Articles
| > |
| > | http://winsupportcenter.com/win5/a/longhorn.htm
| > |
| > | PS - As much as I would enjoy the million or so extra hits to the
| > page, let
| > | me save someone of you some trouble: No, there are no pirated
copies
| > of
| > | Longhorn linked off of this page. :)
| > |
| > | --
| > | Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows
| > | http://aumha.org/
| > | http://forum.aumha.org/
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

Jim Eshelman
December 6th 03, 04:44 PM
"PCR" > wrote in message
...
> For some reason, I'm interested in that one. But imagine how all the
> XP-people must feel! After enduring XP-radiation induced brain ooze out
> their ears all these months, they hear Longhorn is around the corner!
> It's just like getting gored by a bull. Ah, ha, ha!

Two to three years isn't exactly "around the corner" :)

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Jim Eshelman
December 6th 03, 04:44 PM
"PCR" > wrote in message
...
> Yea. But they all were like that. Commodore did it too, not so much with
> software but with hardware. I resisted back then, & I will continue to
> resist now!

But you're a smart boy, and have surely figured out now that "Resitance is
.... "

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Rob B
December 6th 03, 04:45 PM
and considering computer years are like dog years...


"Jim Eshelman" > wrote in message
...
> "PCR" > wrote in message
> ...
> > For some reason, I'm interested in that one. But imagine how all the
> > XP-people must feel! After enduring XP-radiation induced brain ooze out
> > their ears all these months, they hear Longhorn is around the corner!
> > It's just like getting gored by a bull. Ah, ha, ha!
>
> Two to three years isn't exactly "around the corner" :)
>
> --
> Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows
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> http://forum.aumha.org/
>
> Did you find this newsgroup on the web? A newsreader like Outlook Express
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>
>
>

PCR
December 6th 03, 04:45 PM
I guess. But I think Win98 will last that long at least, functionally. I
hopscotched versions of Commodore & was sitting on an Amiga 3000 (I
think) when they went bust.

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There may be humor in this post, and,
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"Jim Eshelman" > wrote in message
...
| "PCR" > wrote in message
| ...
| > For some reason, I'm interested in that one. But imagine how all the
| > XP-people must feel! After enduring XP-radiation induced brain ooze
out
| > their ears all these months, they hear Longhorn is around the
corner!
| > It's just like getting gored by a bull. Ah, ha, ha!
|
| Two to three years isn't exactly "around the corner" :)
|
| --
| Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows
| http://aumha.org/
| http://forum.aumha.org/
|
| Did you find this newsgroup on the web? A newsreader like Outlook
Express
| will make your online life a lot easier. Get better help!
| See: http://aumha.org/win4/supp1b.htm and
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|
|
|

PCR
December 6th 03, 04:45 PM
Resistance is misspelled, you mean?

--
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"Jim Eshelman" > wrote in message
...
| "PCR" > wrote in message
| ...
| > Yea. But they all were like that. Commodore did it too, not so much
with
| > software but with hardware. I resisted back then, & I will continue
to
| > resist now!
|
| But you're a smart boy, and have surely figured out now that
"Resitance is
| ... "
|
| --
| Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows
| http://aumha.org/
| http://forum.aumha.org/
|
| Did you find this newsgroup on the web? A newsreader like Outlook
Express
| will make your online life a lot easier. Get better help!
| See: http://aumha.org/win4/supp1b.htm and
| http://support.microsoft.com/support/news/howto/default.asp
|
|
|

PCR
December 6th 03, 04:45 PM
Don't turn on me, now!

--
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"Rob B" > wrote in message
. ..
| and considering computer years are like dog years...
|
|
| "Jim Eshelman" > wrote in message
| ...
| > "PCR" > wrote in message
| > ...
| > > For some reason, I'm interested in that one. But imagine how all
the
| > > XP-people must feel! After enduring XP-radiation induced brain
ooze out
| > > their ears all these months, they hear Longhorn is around the
corner!
| > > It's just like getting gored by a bull. Ah, ha, ha!
| >
| > Two to three years isn't exactly "around the corner" :)
| >
| > --
| > Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows
| > http://aumha.org/
| > http://forum.aumha.org/
| >
| > Did you find this newsgroup on the web? A newsreader like Outlook
Express
| > will make your online life a lot easier. Get better help!
| > See: http://aumha.org/win4/supp1b.htm and
| > http://support.microsoft.com/support/news/howto/default.asp
| >
| >
| >
|
|

Rob B
December 6th 03, 04:45 PM
no, i think he ment renisance

"PCR" > wrote in message
...
> Resistance is misspelled, you mean?
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
>
> "Jim Eshelman" > wrote in message
> ...
> | "PCR" > wrote in message
> | ...
> | > Yea. But they all were like that. Commodore did it too, not so much
> with
> | > software but with hardware. I resisted back then, & I will continue
> to
> | > resist now!
> |
> | But you're a smart boy, and have surely figured out now that
> "Resitance is
> | ... "
> |
> | --
> | Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows
> | http://aumha.org/
> | http://forum.aumha.org/
> |
> | Did you find this newsgroup on the web? A newsreader like Outlook
> Express
> | will make your online life a lot easier. Get better help!
> | See: http://aumha.org/win4/supp1b.htm and
> | http://support.microsoft.com/support/news/howto/default.asp
> |
> |
> |
>
>

PCR
December 6th 03, 04:45 PM
That's even worse than I thought, then. It's Renaissance!

--
(Geez... I triple checked, & spell check still had to fix it!),
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Rob B" > wrote in message
. ..
| no, i think he ment renisance
|
| "PCR" > wrote in message
| ...
| > Resistance is misspelled, you mean?
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| >
| > "Jim Eshelman" > wrote in message
| > ...
| > | "PCR" > wrote in message
| > | ...
| > | > Yea. But they all were like that. Commodore did it too, not so
much
| > with
| > | > software but with hardware. I resisted back then, & I will
continue
| > to
| > | > resist now!
| > |
| > | But you're a smart boy, and have surely figured out now that
| > "Resitance is
| > | ... "
| > |
| > | --
| > | Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows
| > | http://aumha.org/
| > | http://forum.aumha.org/
| > |
| > | Did you find this newsgroup on the web? A newsreader like Outlook
| > Express
| > | will make your online life a lot easier. Get better help!
| > | See: http://aumha.org/win4/supp1b.htm and
| > | http://support.microsoft.com/support/news/howto/default.asp
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

Rob B
December 6th 03, 04:45 PM
so is ment, should be meant.
"PCR" > wrote in message
...
> That's even worse than I thought, then. It's Renaissance!
>
> --
> (Geez... I triple checked, & spell check still had to fix it!),
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
>
> "Rob B" > wrote in message
> . ..
> | no, i think he ment renisance
> |
> | "PCR" > wrote in message
> | ...
> | > Resistance is misspelled, you mean?
> | >
> | > --
> | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > should things get worse after this,
> | > PCR
> | >
> | > "Jim Eshelman" > wrote in message
> | > ...
> | > | "PCR" > wrote in message
> | > | ...
> | > | > Yea. But they all were like that. Commodore did it too, not so
> much
> | > with
> | > | > software but with hardware. I resisted back then, & I will
> continue
> | > to
> | > | > resist now!
> | > |
> | > | But you're a smart boy, and have surely figured out now that
> | > "Resitance is
> | > | ... "
> | > |
> | > | --
> | > | Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows
> | > | http://aumha.org/
> | > | http://forum.aumha.org/
> | > |
> | > | Did you find this newsgroup on the web? A newsreader like Outlook
> | > Express
> | > | will make your online life a lot easier. Get better help!
> | > | See: http://aumha.org/win4/supp1b.htm and
> | > | http://support.microsoft.com/support/news/howto/default.asp
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

DonderFliegen
December 6th 03, 04:45 PM
"Jim Eshelman" > wrote in message
...
> Windows FX is one of the components of the Windows version presently
> code-named "Longhorn" (in the same way that Windows 95 was named "Chicago"
> before its release.) If I've got it right, "WinFX" is "Windows Framework,"
a
> new API set. (And it's easy to confuse on first pass with "WinFS" which is
> "Windows File System", but they shouldn't be confused at all.)

Thanks for the explanation. I have read a few bits in the NGs and what i've
read sounds really exciting.
We'll be in for a real treat when LH comes out, that's for sure!--
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DonderFliegen
December 6th 03, 04:45 PM
"Jim Eshelman" > wrote in message
...

> Two to three years isn't exactly "around the corner" :)

with that in mind, let's hope that the MS tradition of being late with
releasing final versions has been broken with once and for all since they
were a day early with releasing Xp final (which was the first Windows
version to have been released under Steve Ballmer, coincidence?).

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PCR
December 6th 03, 04:46 PM
Ah, ha, ha! IK, then. UK, bye!

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"Rob B" > wrote in message
om...
| so is ment, should be meant.
| "PCR" > wrote in message
| ...
| > That's even worse than I thought, then. It's Renaissance!
| >
| > --
| > (Geez... I triple checked, & spell check still had to fix it!),
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| >
| > "Rob B" > wrote in message
| > . ..
| > | no, i think he ment renisance
| > |
| > | "PCR" > wrote in message
| > | ...
| > | > Resistance is misspelled, you mean?
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | > should things get worse after this,
| > | > PCR
| > | >
| > | > "Jim Eshelman" > wrote in message
| > | > ...
| > | > | "PCR" > wrote in message
| > | > | ...
| > | > | > Yea. But they all were like that. Commodore did it too, not
so
| > much
| > | > with
| > | > | > software but with hardware. I resisted back then, & I will
| > continue
| > | > to
| > | > | > resist now!
| > | > |
| > | > | But you're a smart boy, and have surely figured out now that
| > | > "Resitance is
| > | > | ... "
| > | > |
| > | > | --
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Joan Archer
December 6th 03, 04:49 PM
Just been reading the Bill Gates interview about Longhorn, it makes
interesting reading and the comments posted about it. This was a link from
my ZDNet Week in Review that I just received.
Joan

"Jim Eshelman" > wrote in message
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> Bill Gates and Jim Allchin unveiled much of the pre-alpha development of
> Windows Longhorn, the next generation of Windows.
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